Thread: Does IQ Effect Dream Recall?

there are many things that there is no physical proof of. But, plenty of inferences you can assume. I know assume is making an ASS of U and ME but, still. Here is my justification for all you wondering why I believe that.
Vividness, realism, perfect clones of people, attitudes and gestures that people do.
Have you noticed you can meet someone 1 time in your life, and in person you can recall them slightly not too much of a detailed report. The voice, you can imagine in your head the voice that they spoke to you in. You can't quite hear it but, you know what it sounds like.
Think about this to entertain yourselves.
How real are dreams. You can meet a single person and talk to them in your dreams. With a complete vivid recall of the persons vocals, attitude, and gestures. What makes your mind able to induce this "psychedelic" trip or feeling you get. Your brain power. Now a human mind is proven to FILTER everything you take in. Altho it filters it, proof does show that you do remember more than you recall. Your brain is weird in that way. (Example of a person who does not have that filter Kim Peek, look him up and his recall) You want proof its out there. A guy in this field named knows a lot. A savants recall is VERY vivid. A guy named Steven Wiltshire is the human camera. Given the name because he can draw everything he sees when he sees it once. take a look at his popular documentary on the painting of Rome. With 1 fly by he draws a 15ft picture of the entire city and even down to the smallest details from being correct on how many windows are in a building at the perspective he saw from. Look it up on google I promise you will be amazed. Now because his recall is not being filtered like ours. Our memories are just in our head and filtered making our ability to recall based on what our brain LETS us know. He can visualize them using his frontal lobes of his brain with NO filter. As do we in our dreams. Now IQ is affected by your filter. The stronger your filter is the more your IQ is affected.
Now knowing dreams are basically the mind that you can't recall on your own. Anyone able to lucid has to be able to recall things and insert them in the dream. Notice why some people can't lucid as soon as they find out they are in a dream BAM they are out. Its not because they are DUMB parse but, it is because mentally you can't create the same effect as that part of your brain is able to.

SO theoretically,
The smarter you are. The easier you are able to distinguish reality from a crazy journey your mind puts you through. Creates the ability to catch yourself in a dream. Leading to later abilities to fully lucid.
Being smarter ALSO helps you create things and alter your dreams more than others.
Now I'm not saying everyone, but, look at a majority of the people on this forum. Their vocabulary, their descriptions obviously you are not talking with the same people on the john deer forum. If any of you are on that sorry I'm not pointing fingers but, just going on a basic generalization ( I don't typically do this just trying to describe this).
These are all aspects of peoples IQ affecting their ability to lucid.
If you can't figure out you are in a dream your memory will never let you even begin to lucid.
After you pass that stage, then you have to have the ability to vivid recall. Notice why we get better at it the more we do it? Its because you start learning its not about making things or forcing them its about thinking things out. Like flying, you can't just jump and bam fly as easy as superman, you gotta think of the feeling of flying then it happens. If you try to run you can't go very fast. Until you start to THINK about the feeling of running not just the physical speed. From the wind flying past you to the leaning forward. Everything is affected MENTALLY.
Want more proof I'll debate with anyone. And unlike everyone else. Not only will I listen I will learn from everyone. Anything anyone can tell me I take it in openly and see what I think of it before I say its dumb. As I said before everyone on here feel free to IM me on AIM or Yahoo. Write me an email if you'd like too.
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I don't believe that there is even any research on the correlation between IQ level and dream frequency. From what I understand, everyone dreams, it all just depends on how well you can remember what you have dreamed. And I don't see how IQ and dream recall are in any way related. So my answer is no, IQ does not effect how much you dream.

Definitely not!

It's more about how much value you put on your dreams. And how Strong your intention is to remember them.

people who don't care about their dreams, don't remember much, if anything at all.

Originally Posted by Alban

I don't even think IQ scores are any kind of measurement for intelligence in the first place.
The system was developed in, like, the 19th century!

This whole topic is highly subjective. I happen to have a highly prolific dream-rate and very good dream dream-recall but dreams are only a small part of our brain's activity.
On top of that I'm seriously crappy at getting lucid. I think your teacher's overstepping her bounds.

It's impossible to say that dream-rate=intelligence when scientists can't even agree what intelligence actually is.

about this
IQ you are right
does not mean you are smart
its a basic generalization of being smart. All it is, is recognizing patterns. So let me say I agree 110%
IQ means very little compared to actually BEING smart.
With that aside
TYPICALLY people with high IQs are smart. TYPICALLY there are people who just can't figure out the simple inconsistencies or a test.
So let me rephrase everything I said. IQ doesn't matter but, your ability to think does.
People do use the flawed system of IQ to prove they are smarter than others. It's not accurate by any means. But, its a TYPICAL number. Its easy to relate to. And for the most part its close on who does what how good.
A guy who is gifted in math is good at IQ tests theoretically. They are able to figure out and dissect problems. Not always remember its all hypothetical. Compared to a person well versed in English and oblivious to math as some are. Is a person who is able to communicate flawlessly and able to memorize things. Think about the 2 subjects. Math breaks apart things and makes you see them simpler. English is a memory game. All it does is make you memorize vocab and stories. There is more I know but, come on I don't gotta be too exact its only for reference.

To me, I'm smart I won't lie ask anyone. I know a lot about many subjects to many hobbies
Computers, vocabulary tutor, math tutor, photographer, picture manipulation, personal training, chef, audiophile, health advising. Many things interest me and I learn them rapidly.
but, in no means am I a genius.
To me a genius is not just smart. He is exceptional. I maybe very high ranked but, this guy is a genius.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Ung-Yong
not because of IQ but, his accomplishments.

What I'm trying to say is.
My IQ does remotely fit me. Correct?
Ok now my friend. Got a 150 on one of those online tests, he is a moron. I don't need to even explain this or how. Just simply put a moron. Kinda bothers me occasionally because of his stupidity.
Now my GF
She gets a 115 -120 on the online tests. She might not be a prodigy but, overall she is a good learner. Has a good head on her shoulders. And this proves IQ is conditional.

This is totally off topic sorry, but, my relation is
Smarter people tend to lucid dream, dumber people don't.
the guy above on page 1 who said he isn't very smart. Maybe not in book smarts, but, your realization has to be higher than average. Your ability to comprehend fiction vs reality. Personal recall altho its supposed to help I don't think is related much because people end their sleep in a dream as some don't. When you end during a dream your recall is much higher.

dream frequency is consistant with a majority of people. Recall is the difference.

And I do agree with you who stated that if you care you do it more.

But, how did everyone hear of lucid dreaming? Didn't you do it on your own for the first time then look into it? That is the usual reason someone does it.

I have a high IQ, but until I started visiting this site my dream recall was practically non-existent. I think your teacher was just trying to think of something that sounded like it might be true on the spot to insult you all with.

lol I never said recall was related

It must be untrue. My IQ has been above the adult standard (100) since I was 12 and let me tell you, my dream recall is shit.

i dont think it matters at all because my iq is 167 and i cant even get dream reacall down

wow a lot of people are in the same boat as me maybe a high iq makes you have crappy dream recall. you know like maybe the connection between body and mind is a bit stronger so lucids are a little more difficult or something to that effect idk

A) Your teacher, besides being entirely off base and inappropriate, knows nothing about it. As you said, anyone can lose or gain dream recall. Actually, the simple fact that your teacher said "do you dream a lot" instead of "do you remember all your dreams" (unless this was just a paraphrasing error) shows her lack of understanding in the area of sleep.

B) IQ is a farce, anyways.

I personally believe it is related to awareness. If you let your days fly by, I'm pretty sure it will happen in dreams too

Originally Posted by randomdreamer

i dont think it matters at all because my iq is 167 and i cant even get dream reacall down

Holy shit!!!! 167! No way.

if that were the case then dogs wouldn't be able to dream. And millions of internet jokes couldn't be made about them.