Thread: Lack of dreamsign, could you make one up?

well, i dont do all that complicated stuff to tell if im in a dream, i personally will when i am having a dream(which is rare) i will IMMEDIATLY know its a dream because if i focus, i can feel my eyes being closed, not open, because i wont blink in my dreams. then i know its a dream, then i can control my dream at will.

the difficult thing is ignoring all the outside influences, cause i will feel my body and my eyes and everything but i have to try REALLY hard not to wake up or move or anything because that will end the dream.

practice and you will be able to stay asleep once you realize its a dream, cause what most people do is they will realize they are asleep and immedaitly move their eyes, which is difficult not to do.

I think WILD might be a better option ONLY because you'll enter a dream consciously aware of it, so, you don't have to do any RCs, etc.... however, you'll have to go through SP and maintain your awareness throughout. You could try a WBTB+DILD and see if that yields any different results. As for your question, I don't think you can, but, you can try to always think of let's say water before bed, so, you might it incorporated in your dreams and then RC everytime you interact with water

It might help if you broaden what you choose to accept as a dreamsign. It could be a general location, a certain group of people, typical actions you'll take, maybe even a feeling. The dreamsign hasn't got to be specific if that isn't creating any results.

I'm not sure how creating your own dream sign would work, though I can't really say anything as I haven't tried this myself. I don't think it would be very effective if your chosen dreamsign didn't appear at least occasionaly in your dreams. Obviously it wouldn't work well if it were just something random you thought up. However I suppose you could train yourself to become more aware of simple things(flowers, doors, etc.), so it might work. Try it if you think it will help.

I also agree with BigFan. If you feel like you won't be getting any success from the reality check method, perhaps it's time to try a new technique(like WILD, where reality checks are unneccessary).

Originally Posted by TJuulsgaard

I wonder if you could make up your own dreamsign

I just remembered this thread created by Shift, I though it might interest you.

I'd like to know if you have regular places that appear in your dreams, such as your own home or workplace? These could well be used as dreamsigns and because you'll generally be very aware of your surroundings in real life and so these may well help you with becoming lucid in the future. I myself make a habit of trying to visualise my workplace either from the inside or outside the building so that if it should appear in my dreams I may just spot something strange or out of place and become lucid that way.

Do you keep a dream journal? Try asking someone else to read it, or if it's on a computer upload it. You'd be surprised at how many dreamsigns absolutely pop out that you yourself don't notice. When I first adopted my adoptees and read their DJs it was just insane how many things I noticed showing up in each dream that they were oblivious to but then knew to RC to. Even more abstract things like "Being in a position where you are leading a group" or "feeling a need to protect the people around you" to "Looking up at the sky".

Just mentally questioning yourself overall should help, too. Or, if you can work on your mnemonic memory with the link already posted, you may be able to try going to bed and telling yourself, "I will RC the next time I see a person."

I do keep a dreamjournal, and I think that one of my dreamsigns could be my wife - and work-friends appearing in all the wrong places. So what you are saying is that if I become aware of my surroundings whenever I see my wife or friends from work and then do a reality-check it could work.

I am just worried about the rate at which I will have to do reality-checks as I see them 300 times during day and sometimes they really do deserve my full attention but if that is the way, then that is how I will do it.

Since I wrote this post I have had a couple of dreams, where I saw my wife and said to myself that I was dreaming and that I should be able to control my dream, but nothing happened?!?

@BIGFAN I am trying a bit of MILD/DILD and WILD - WILD when I wake up in the middle of the night (happens frequently after I started this LD-business), the other as I go to sleep and of course I am frequently RC'ing during the day (more or less randomly)

I had succes with achieving an incredible DEILD as my first LD almost accidentally so my appetite has been wetted and my motivation is high.

PS: I read your memory-training-tutorial Shift, but I'm already doing the same practice with Laberges memory training, where you have to remember to reality-check the first time you see a thing that day. Constantly trying to remember these things really is doing wonders for my mental discipline and I think it could be a good way to be succesfull with DILD/MILD.

Thanks for all of your help so far.

Originally Posted by TJuulsgaard

Since I wrote this post I have had a couple of dreams, where I saw my wife and said to myself that I was dreaming and that I should be able to control my dream, but nothing happened?!?

Congrats on the lucids! Make sure to read up on dream stabilization and dream control so that next time you become lucid, you're ready to really get it nice and vivid and under your control.

Funny that I assumed it was all a question of realizing you were dreaming... but guess it couldn't be that easy work, work, work

thanks again for the advice.