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      Linkzelda's Dream Yoga Workbook

      Basic Skills: Lesson #1

      Hello! Glad to finally have started a workbook, I like the 3 versions so far, all of them sound tempting to do!

      I don't think I'll have the luxury of doing Version 3, seeing as I can't think of something consistent I can use to taste.

      I think I can do Versions 1 and Version 2

      Version 1 seems to be something I can do during the day, since I know I can really practice various sounds my mind ignores.

      Version 2 is something I can do during the evening, and even during WBTBs when attempting WILDs (I apologize for mentioning WILDing here, but this is the perfect preset to potentially develop an anchor for WILDing if I happen to wake up before the alarm I have set.

      I have one question, for each level for each version, what is the recommended time for each?

      I'm assuming as each level increases, devotion to them increases as well, meaning more time? Or is time not an essential factor to create greater efficacy in said awareness?



      Version 1: Noisy World

      Level 1


      I decided to take 5-10 minutes closing my eyes, with some periods of covering both my mouth and eyes, so that I could hopefully hear my breathing as well.

      Some obvious sounds that I ignored:

      Since I'm sitting at the small dining table in the kitchen at home, I noticed that the Refrigerator's humming was the main noise that eventually became white noise until distant sounds such as a few motorcycles accelerating to the right of me starts to fade away. Since it's night time right now, listening to the few sounds of traffic through the window inside of a house was something I wanted to take advantage of.

      I heard a second motorcycle, and I find my perspective focuses on it rather than the refrigerator humming. I paid close attention to the fading noise of the motorcycle/vehicle with a large humming, and found that I could hear a little bit more past the typical point where I would normally ignore.

      After a few seconds, I couldn't really pay attention too much to the humming of the vehicle, since I had the thought that maybe my mind would be associating a predictable hum after a while, and then I started to listen to the noise occurring from the T.V

      I know that the objective of this first level is to feeling yourself moving through your sense of hearing, but it tempted me to create a visual camera of the environment around me, and when I heard the noises on the T.V. I tried to create this mini-sound vortex that would amplify my awareness of the noises on the T.V. a little bit.

      I hope that this method I'm doing is acceptable. I feel that even though there's some visual involved, the sensation of hearing the sounds being amplified might make it worthwhile.

      Even as I'm typing now, I realized how much I ignore myself typing on the laptop, and now I'm still paying attention to the Refrigerator humming.

      Conclusion: It seems I'll have more fun doing this version than the latter, since the second version involves self-focusing rather than external focusing.

      I think the external focusing is imperative to me hopefully transcending it towards dreaming, because whenever I recall my non-lucid dreams, I don't really remember hearing a lot of noises, just your generic noises like close conversations with random dream characters, and small swooshing sounds.

      But I'm still interested in Version 2, because I feel that this is another important aspect with awareness both in dreaming and waking life.

      Sorry for the long report there, but my opinions on Version 2.

      In waking life, I feel....like I have to do something productive, I'll think about the objectives that comes into my mind, and let them drift for a moment, and then forget it, and then hopefully trace it back to my mind again.

      In dreaming life, ESPECIALLY when I attain those rare lucids, I feel this....calmness, extreme calmness.

      No one is out to interact with me, I do not feel obligated to feel alive. By that, making myself look presentable towards others.

      I also feel a slight augmentation in my footsteps and movements sometimes, but most of the time, I see that I even ignore those sensations.

      I feel that working on those will definitely help with stability in staying in the dream longer. Because whenever I remind myself of an objective in lucid state, it usually crumbles after I start getting impatient or irritated


      Might do Version 2 tomorrow, but I plan to do Version 1 for this evening and tonight.

      The reason being is that I'm setting up an ALARM to ring once since I'm utilizing the CANWILD technique. And doing Version 1 as a priority will help with me remembering the custom sound I extended, so that I can enter the dream state through a WILD, or a DEILD.

      And I've had moments where I probably didn't hear the alarm at times, or probably did, but was unconscious a few seconds after. I believe this will help me retain consciousness after a few hours sleep when the alarm initiates.

      Thank you for these lessons, life is going to get a little interesting listening to these small noises, etc.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Linkzelda View Post
      Basic Skills: Lesson #1


      [/B]I know that the objective of this first level is to feeling yourself moving through your sense of hearing, but it tempted me to create a visual camera of the environment around me, and when I heard the noises on the T.V. I tried to create this mini-sound vortex that would amplify my awareness of the noises on the T.V. a little bit.

      I hope that this method I'm doing is acceptable. I feel that even though there's some visual involved, the sensation of hearing the sounds being amplified might make it worthwhile.



      Thank you for these lessons, life is going to get a little interesting listening to these small noises, etc.
      Hi Link! Thanks for being one of the first to start a notebook! I wonder how often you will now hear that refridgerator hum? Thanks for making a great first post, very cool.
      Feel free to alter the meditations as you see fit. If you do any energy work, I find it can be added to most meditations, so anyways, be creative and do this whole thing your way.
      As far as time to stay in meditation. I believe you should make it fun and light hearted at first, so people do not burn themselves out. I, for instance, can keep myself very very amused, and I mean fully engaged emotional and spiritually pleasent stuff. If you observed me in a meditation class, you would not know, why I can stay in a deep meditation so long. Here it is,,, it can be really mind-alteringly intense and pleasurable. In contrast if you take a beginner and make them sit board then even 5 minutes will seem very long. I would suggest that you find a few meditative skills that seem fun to you and practice doing the fun ones, until 10 minutes of a fun meitation seems like a short amount of time. You are not looking to be able to stick something out for ten minutes. You are looking to explore a mind so cool, that 10 minutes passes and you choose to keep going, for fun.
      Yes, Life is going to get interesting!- Eric
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      Last night's results.

      When I recorded my Dream Journal on one program I use before posting on this site's system, I was aware of sounds being altered in a dream when I moved away from a person talking. Usually, I'm not cognizant of this, and it's mostly ignored.

      A small observation, but worth mentioning.

      I think I might use Version 1 for now, and do Version 2 in later weeks.
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      Today's results, I haven't been so active with Version 1 Level 1, whenever things do get quiet, I have nothing else to do but to actually listen.

      I didn't pay attention to traffic outside of the house, but I guess it's because there isn't much traffic going on anyway, just a few cars breezing in. Probably might be different tomorrow since it's a workday.
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      Yesterday's results (I posted the previous post around midnight, which is why it'll look funny posting results on the same day, but that was for the day before).

      Anyway, during the afternoon, I decided to do the Version 1 Level 1 by hearing the alarm I set out to wake me up for a CANWILD attempt. I put the sound on repeat, so that I would get used to it, and listened to it through my headphones on my laptop. I turned it down a little bit, because it is LOUD.

      As I'm browsing through the internet, I'm trying to pay attention to the refrigerator humming, and I could hear some slight hums, but the noise of the alarm itself was kind of a challenge to fade away from. I also told myself as more practice that I would listen to this alarm, keep my eyes closed, remain still, and enter a lucid dream several times.

      The initial moments of having the alarm repeat over and over, I could hear the slight skips since I set it for 7 seconds, meaning it would be cut off (since the whole alarm sound is 2 seconds, so 1 second is shaved off from it being an even amount of seconds obviously).

      It started to get a little annoying hearing those skips because of the cut off, but I started to get used to it, and saw that the sound become less and less annoying, and it literally was just a part of the environment now. I heard the TV sounds as well, but I didn't pay too much attention to that.

      I also tried listening to the sounds of my fingers pressing the keyboard buttons. I could hear them just fine, but not to the point where I went hardcore and hearing the fingers slide off and being mid-air for a few seconds though.

      I think I'm going to work on that for today, and try to devote some time in listening to the alarm song I have so that I'm used to it....anyway, that's not something that needs to be addressed for this class.

      Another thing I'm going to be focusing on, IF I remember to devote some time to it, is to daydream, because with the CANWILD technique, adding visualization to the WILD attempt can help TREMENDOUSLY, because most of the time, when I wake up, the back of my eyes portray a void like atmosphere, loose, free, misty, etc....and that's when I have to take advantage to use my creativity and form an environment.

      I read some old posts in CrazyInsane's CANWILD technique, and one DV User from 2010 I believe said that he practiced the technique for over 2 months, and had it down to perfection, and what kept him from having a lot of lucids is the fact that he didn't set out to create a dream environment, because like with myself, I'm in the "limbo" or "twilight" state of being when I wake up from the alarm and keep my eyes closed.

      And I had a lucid this morning as well, so I'm going to try and daydream myself inside that environment with skyscrapers, which means that I'll try to focus on the sounds of the air rushing from the echoing bouncing off the walls of the skyscraper.

      Even as I'm typing this now, I can just imagine, I'm so excited just thinking about the sounds I can hear, because sounds haven't been something I paid attention to in my dreams.

      And as for the visualization aspect, this may be off topic, but reading one of your posts on how to connect those small dots of light to train your brain to associate that with creating a dream environment (forgot which thread it was unfortunately), I'm going to try and do that sometime this late afternoon or 30 minutes to an hour before I go to bed.

      Will post results tomorrow!

      And hear I thought Dream Yoga was something I should do AFTER I get used to lucidity, but this is proving to be a good supplement in enhancing it! I'm glad I'm taking the WILD course and this course simultaneously, I just know it's going to help, and with knowing someone like yourself with plenty of experience, I hope I'll gain a lot of progress with being considerate of my dream senses (I've always been able to feel the emotions of myself and dream characters in my dream, explore their behaviors, indulge in them to the point where I could go on and on, but thanks to this class, I can see that I'll start focusing more on how I feel.

      Ugh, it's hard to restrain myself from rambling and going into "too long didn't read it" mode, so I'll just leave it at that.



      EDIT:

      Here's the mp3 link of the alarm I'm practicing to get used to

      http://kiwi6.com/file/hujss6d7p1
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      Okay so for last night, I took 3mg of Melatonin. After 30 minutes or so, I decided to do some meditation. I get on my bed, form my feet in a lotus position, sort....I just let my feet touch each other.

      I set a timer to activate after 35-40 minutes, and would devote that time to meditate.

      Things were going good the first three minutes....LOL

      Then I started to get a little sleepy, probably the slight effects from the Melatonin, even though I know its full effect only starts after several sleeping hours.

      Man, you were right about the time feeling like forever! I only spent a few minutes, and by then, I was so tired and even got impatient! But in those few minutes, I saw some swirls at the back of my eye, and tried to passively be aware of them.

      Guess that patience thing is something I'll have to work on, and maybe I should do it before I decide to take Melatonin.
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      Hi Link. Wow, that alarm sounds like it goes on a sub-marine! That sure would wake someone up. You seem to be focusing on increasing your awareness, and doing just fine. If I can help, let me know. Most of this takes time and practice, so keep it up. Play with these exercises for now, I will release another lesson as sone as tonight, but it is going to be information rather than skill based. More cool skill based stuff to come,,, for the moment make sure you do this in a fun light manner. This stuff gets so damn cool, that spending 30 minutes in meditation is not only easy for me, but exciting. Until you get to a point that longer sessions are fun and easy, just a few minutes at a time, or as part of a WILD. Have fun.
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      I feel that I should mention something about how I try to define waking life and dreaming life. I know this may not be related to Dream Yoga, but I think acknowledging these possibilities can help anyone who may have conflicting goals with finding their dream guide, because there's so many ideologies to follow in defining that a dream guide is or not. And taking this into consideration is more of understanding how I think, so I guess that relates to Dream Yoga, self awareness and all.

      Introspection in regards to dreaming and waking life - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

      Spoiler for Dreaming Life, Waking Life, and Dream Guides:


      And yeah, that alarm HAS to wake someone up, otherwise they're a really really REALLY heavy sleeper.

      I'm getting a little better at being aware when I listen to the alarm, which ties in to Version 1 Level 1 of a noisy world. Being able to pick out a certain sound out of so many sounds is really something useful in regards of practicing anchors to become lucid.
      Last edited by Linkzelda; 05-18-2012 at 07:11 AM. Reason: Had to change some things.
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      I didn't have the luxury to spend time doing the Version 1 Level 1, but I have made a dream interpretation of some key elements and dream signs, along with elements of what some people see in my in their dreams as well

      Golden Eagle, Thunderbird, Putting the Pieces Together. (Dream interpretation) - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views
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      Hi everyone! It has been almost two weeks. I hope everyone got a chance to practice. The thread Dream Yoga Basic Skills: Lesson 1, has been updated. I have shared a few ways these skills will be useful in LDs, and the thread is now open to Q & A.
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      All right, today was interesting. I was mowing the lawn, without eating breakfast and lunch....smart move Link...

      After finishing that, I felt tired, and it was hot outside, so I took the time to drink some water, and once I was done drinking a big gulp, I closed my eyes, and I have this "PEW" moment with flashing white light....loool. That's what I get for sleeping at 3-4 AM in the morning, waking up, not eating anything, and working in the hot sun.

      So I quickly went to my room, and crashed ANYTHING that was in my way of resting on the floor, because I didn't want my sweat to saturate the bed.

      I was in that state where your body just needs to chill down, like seriously.

      The reason why I'm saying all this is because I was really tired, and had to take a few deep breaths, and I had my eyes closed the whole time.

      I focused on the sound of the T.V., the A/C humming, focusing more on the A/C rather than the T.V.

      It made sense to focus on the A/C, because it was very hot outside, and I just let myself get caught with the nice humming from it, felt so good, and seeing the back of my eyes having this diluted mystical feel to it was relaxing.

      I started to feel better in 5-10 minutes of laying on the floor, trying not to move too much, because I already did too much damage on my body working without eating.

      After that, I felt alive again! Weird.....normally, you'd think that you would need to get more help, or possibly go to the hospital for things like that, but after "loving" the pain that was surging in my body, it forced me to focus ONLY on my mind....

      Although the event I had was a little too harsh due to my mistake of not eating before working, shifting my focus towards my mind alone, I felt like the stress and everything was taken care of by my body. I literally felt myself charging up for a while, really was a nice experience, even if it did hurt a lot before resting.

      Now I'm going to eat

      Lesson from that: When things get too hectic with my body stressing out, just shift my consciousness to my mind only, and everything will be all right. Hope this habit can pass on with WILD attempts.
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      Environmental Subconscious vs. Internal Subconscious - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

      The link above is just insight on what I think we can perceive our subconscious.

      As an environment, or as a single entity, or even as both.

      It's kind of a long read, but I thought that since I'm doing the sound thing, music helps as well.
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      I've done a few things that distracted me from even trying to lucid dream, but my recall is decent. Lots of cleaning in the house in real life, and then me just getting into other things a lot. Man, it's been way too long since I posted and results.

      I'll try to post some Tuesday night, because Monday is going to be another cleaning day.

      Ugh.

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      Wow, really distracted lately. But I did a little bit of the exercise where you try to look at peripheral vision instead of what's in the center when I was at the gym running on the treadmill.

      There were three cars perfectly aligned. I looked at the one on the center, then gradually tried to see the license plate for the ones on the side. I did an okay job focusing at least on one side, but it was hard to see both except the one in the center at the same time.

      I kept doing this for about 2 minutes, and eventually gave up.

      I don't know what's killing the passion in me right now, maybe it's just trying to resolve the negative thoughts I had with dreaming in general distracted me.
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      Take your time. The skills I am teaching can be mastered over your entire lifetime.
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      I haven't shown any progress at all, and it's frankly due to me trying to balance out all of these thoughts I'm trying to let out so that they don't build up and make me even more anxious than I need to be.

      I've been keeping in the shadows of my interest in things beyond Dreaming like the Akashic Records and practicing the mechanisms to potentially have fairly frequent AP because of the huge benefit that prior sleep is not a big importance, but is still a good supplement.

      Honestly, as much as I want to become lucid often, and disciplining myself to recall my dreams daily (I've been half-heartedly attempting to records notes when I wake up without an alarm lately....mostly because the dreams I recall do not have enough substance and consolation with anything that can be beneficial in waking life....at least in non-vague way.)

      Going through those random dreams, despite their usefulness being dependent on me trying to be VERY subjective about them dying off slowly, I know I have to bear with it to sustain my ability to recall, and push it much further. I know I can do fairly well in recalling my rare lucids when I get adequate amount of sleep, and I know that if I only have 3-4 hours to sleep, it's either no dream recall or just the usual N-REM nonsense dreams.

      If I want to experiment and get my feet into the mechanisms of AP and beyond, I plan to reread some guidelines you've set out, which I heavily am grateful for you offering them to us.

      Let's just say that based on the situations that I'm in in waking life, and just on a deeper level on finding out who I really am, things like APing and Akashic Records (the idea behind it as using it as a progressive basis of seeing outcomes that are most likely to occur based on my current state) are two enticing mediums.

      The Akashic Records has been of interest ever since I happened to glance over the Wiki in DV months ago, and I'm all about using the potential of sleeping that gets me into other levels of consciousness to help me with this life. To be honest, ever since I came to this forum and read through many threads and guides, dreaming in general has made me speculate more on life, and even before, I was very engaged in how people behaved, and questioning morale, religion, etc., and I still am.

      Anyway, I know this class is a progressive thing that its effectiveness is dependent on the student's effort, and from your last post, I hope to see that at least some of your knowledge in this will be added to my schemata in various things both in dreaming and waking life.

      Thank you again Sivason.
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      Last night I tried to meditate for maybe an hour or so, and it's starting to get easier staying conscious, especially since I'm just sitting half lotus position with my hands together. I can feel my body getting at rest, but it seem I need to have an enduring mind that can cope with those irresistible urges to just move my body parts.

      It's hard, but I really need to see this as challenge that must be climbed over if I want to get into the really good stuff with deep state meditation. It's amazing how I'm just a few patient levels away from getting a certain aspect of higher knowledge......but I hope that I'll be able to master this before I have to do anything too serious in my current situation right now. Other than that, I still am tempted just lie down on the bed and pass out into deep sleep. Maybe I need to make the environment a bit colder, because I noticed I love the warmth a bit too much.

      I don't know, it could be just me having to build up endurance while remaining passive. I do notice that my body feels a lot better when I let stay dormant for a while, and when I shift back into moving it, it's like

      "wooooooooooooooooah."

      I think I'm going to read over the lessons you put up, and see if I can utilize them as anchors to be distracted from those strong urges to move while being dormant for so long. I know I have the mentality to just stay aware, now I just need the will to get used to these sensations I'm usually unaware of before sleep.
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      I tried my hardest to reinforce positive thinking into my meditation, but realized that doing so means fixating my mindset to one aspect, which I know would be a detriment to my progress.

      So I'm going to just be neutral of my thoughts, since if I focus on them too long, I'll get distracted, and might get tempted to fall asleep faster because I would get lost in the thoughts, literally.

      Other than that, I can keep my body straight with a pillows behind me, maintain the pose with ease. All I have to do now is conquer those feelings of trying to rest, and to be in the state of neutrality; because I do get the habit of strong feelings just screaming to me, "sleep! sleep! sleep!"
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      I think you should expirement with meditating in a couple different positions. Try doing it flat on your back in bed, with one leg slightly bent off to the side. Just a semi-comfortable rrepose on your back. If you end up falling asleep and stay in that position, then so be it. Just do not role onto a side until you are ready to stop. Also try sitting cross legged in a normal indian style pose, which is my favorite. I see little value in lotus or even half lotus.

      This is a bit like the issue of moving during WILD attempts. Do not fight yourself to stay still. The effort it takes to not move distaracts you. If you have an itch it is ok to scratch, or if you need to adjust how your sitting, it is ok. Being comfortable is good, and I would not worry too much about falling asleep. If you do fall asleep in meditation you may hhave an LD.
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      Thank you for your response sviason. I've been doing the Normal Indian Style for about a week or so. I think my main challenge is whenever I let go and just focus on my breathing while passively acknowledging random thought forms fading away.

      I've also done the position where I would sit at a 130 angle with my legs on the bed. What I would do is get a rolling chair and put it near the end of the bed as close as possible, sit down on it, extend my legs on the bed, and rest on the pillows for my back and neck for support.

      - Sometimes I find myself extending my face upwards, making my neck exposed while I aim my eyes upwards for the "third eye" if you will.
      - Sometimes I find myself just keeping the head stationary, sometimes feeling my jaws loosen and opening my mouth....when this happens, I try not to focus on how I could activate the swallow reflex, but it does get irritating sometimes. But I'll make sure that I focus on not worrying about being too strict with my movements.

      I mostly just do the Indian style sitting while resting my back and head on two pillows against the wall.

      Again, thank you for your input sivason, means a lot.

      I've noticed that when I get a loss in perception of time, I can utilize that to my advantage for some personal endeavors I'm going for that requires a deep meditative state. I try to devote 1 hour per day at least for meditation during the day, and I do whatever I can to meditate at night.

      I usually use meditation to the point where my body strongly wants to sleep, so I transition from sitting to lying down on the bed. I guess I have to conquer awareness when I'm lying down, because sitting is where I'm obviously more alert but passive in the surroundings and thoughts around me.
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      So I'm doing this breathing concentration exercise where I count the inhales and the exhales. I find this to be very relieving, and I'm actually getting a little better at easing my mind. I'm getting to the point where the mind goes scatterbrain mode, and it's easy to go into one thought or the other.

      What I'm doing is counting up from 1-100 and my concentration is pretty well at not getting side tracked. I'm starting to realize that out of all things to use as a constant and yet still have passive awareness is in the breathing. Also, I was experimenting different sitting positions and even laying down as well.

      I find that the ideal position is to sit, but to just rest at an angle about 130 degrees or so. This way, I can open my legs, and still be in a position that's easy to fall asleep in. Of course, I'm not aiming to fall asleep, I'm aiming for the right moment when I'm just about to sleep so I can go into a trance state.

      It's challenging, but I'm going to keep attempting this, and hopefully do some abstract things when I can start shifting consciousness to a higher awareness.
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      That sounds like a great exercise. Keep it up, I am sure it will do wonders for helping you control the randomness of the mind.
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      So for the past few days, it's getting easier to get relaxed, at least that's what I think.

      I managed to count up until 1,000 (counting inhaling and exhaling), and I find when I stop there, the moment I rest my head on a pillow, it's like someone gave me a whiff of chloroform and I'm knocked out .

      I'm now trying to get into a trance state, so I've been doing some research (not hardcore as I thought), so that I can use this state of being for many things.

      Other than that, I guess I'm now focused on just being relaxed and just being receptive to whatever happens. As long as I sit Indian style or just regular sitting, I'll be awake for as long as I want.




      As for the visualization, still working on that.

      Shockwave helped me get into a trance state (thanks by the way), and I'm like, "WHAT IS THIS SORCERY!?" But it really helped me a lot, which definitely motivated me to learn self-hypnosis and trances.

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      To go into a true trance you will need to kind of fall asleep. It is harder then normal WILDs, because you bring a huge amount of awareness along, and can observe long states of altered brainwave, that happen normally only during sleep. Good luck, it is awesome, but will take time.
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      I've been reading a few pdfs and videos related to self-hypnosis, and from this, I've made a presumption that simply getting into the simplicity of it and being able to be positive despite failed attempts if the best way to go for me.

      I'm planning to do one before I go to sleep to get ready for the first day of the fourth semester here in college, and I'm taking quick notes off of a pdf I'm reading, which I find to be really useful. This one is one that just completely breaks things down to what I really want out of the self-hypnosis: which is to simply set a conditioned response that I can be utilized for consistent and successful self-hypnosis attempts.

      I've noticed it pretty passively before, from the first time my friend mentioned to me about dream views, and how I tried autosuggestion for the first time to wake me up....and then those random moments where my mind complied with my desires...really amazing and has a lot of potential for getting me into the right mindset in many endeavors.

      I've been focusing more on getting connected with the subconscious mind, acknowledging any mistakes and frustrations I had and using them to get better gradually by the day. The anecdotes of people who can get into self-hypnosis faster than the average person is definitely enticing, and I hope to get better at it. There's so much potential here, and I just can't let that opportunity go to waste.

      Anyway, I'll post results eventually, don't know when, but eventually.
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