Thread: Q&A Episode 2: Natural WBTBs, Hypnagogic Imagery, and Hostile Dreamworlds

Damn that was fast, great work! Will listen after work.

Hope you edited out all my national lampoon's moments

Originally Posted by OpheliaBlue

Damn that was fast, great work! Will listen after work.

Hope you edited out all my national lampoon's moments

No way. All still in there and louder. On repeat.

Seriously, though, it was an easy edit job. Awesome work from you again! I'm eager for the world to finally learn about your great and terrible Mexican Food Induced Lucid Dreaming technique.

Hoorah! New podcast!

Great job guys, keep doing these they're great.

Originally Posted by GrannyPigms

Hoorah! New podcast!

Great job guys, keep doing these they're great.

Thanks so much, GrannyPigms! Glad you enjoyed it! We're looking forward to doing more.

Answered my question very well and definitely going to use your information!

Thanks guys!

Nice episode, I'll be sure to listen to episode 1 now.

And I enjoyed/learned a lot from the responses to my question. I completely ignored the emotional aspect of the problem so great advice there, very helpfull.
Looking forward to more episodes.

Originally Posted by mahoogie

Answered my question very well and definitely going to use your information!

Thanks guys!

Originally Posted by Booney

Nice episode, I'll be sure to listen to episode 1 now.

And I enjoyed/learned a lot from the responses to my question. I completely ignored the emotional aspect of the problem so great advice there, very helpfull.
Looking forward to more episodes.

That's wonderful to hear! I'm so glad that it helped, guys. Thank you both for the great questions and for listening to the podcast.

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Wooohooo! Your time in creating these is very appreciated!! Very nice job once again!!!

Spoiler for bathroom humor:

By the way, I like the way CanisLucidus linked back to the Mexican food thoughts with his HI "floaters!"....j/k.

Originally Posted by fogelbise

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Wooohooo! Your time in creating these is very appreciated!! Very nice job once again!!!

Spoiler for bathroom humor:

By the way, I like the way CanisLucidus linked back to the Mexican food thoughts with his HI "floaters!"....j/k.

Thanks for the kind words, fogelbise! It's great to hear that you enjoyed it. The feedback really helps... it's the only way we can know whether or not we're getting material out there that you guys enjoy, so much appreciated!

And LOL @ the "spoiler". Ophelia caught me totally off guard at the Mexican food part. I wasn't sure I was going to be able to get it back together.

So informative! Please don't stop doing what you do! We are listening!

Originally Posted by bemistaken

So informative! Please don't stop doing what you do! We are listening!

That's great to hear, bemistaken, thank you! If you guys keep enjoying this, we won't stop until my microphone falls over from tiring of hearing me yammer.

Excellent work guys! I really love your podcasts!!
Would love to hear a podcast about the "other" LD techniques, it would be really insightful coming from you: SSILD, FILD, VILD, HILD, PBTB... Ooops, sorry, we had Pee Back To Bed thoroughly covered already

Originally Posted by dreambh

Excellent work guys! I really love your podcasts!!
Would love to hear a podcast about the "other" LD techniques, it would be really insightful coming from you: SSILD, FILD, VILD, HILD, PBTB... Ooops, sorry, we had Pee Back To Bed thoroughly covered already

Thanks so much, dreambh! I'm really glad that you liked the material!

And I love your idea of a podcast on the "other" techniques. Ophelia, weren't you and RareCola considering doing one like this back in the day? I think it'd make for a great show. SSILD could be particularly interesting as I think both RareCola and I got some of our early lucids with it but have differing opinions as to SSILD's value as a technique. I think it could make for a great discussion.

We'll definitely have to put something out about this, whether it's in the Q&A format or the traditional format. Thanks for the suggestion!

Originally Posted by CanisLucidus

SSILD could be particularly interesting as I think both RareCola and I got some of our early lucids with it but have differing opinions as to SSILD's value as a technique. I think it could make for a great discussion.

Wow! I'm really intrigued about SSILD. That would be super interesting!!!

Originally Posted by CanisLucidus

Ophelia, weren't you and RareCola considering doing one like this back in the day? I think it'd make for a great show. SSILD could be particularly interesting as I think both RareCola and I got some of our early lucids with it but have differing opinions as to SSILD's value as a technique. I think it could make for a great discussion.

Yes, it was on the menu. It would make a very good and informative podcast, I agree.

This Q&A was neat. The part where you talked about hypnogogic imagery was pretty cool. I used to have something similar to that when I was a kid, probably up until about 10 years old. They were really amazing. I'd close my eyes and see a fairly normal depiction of a given scene, and then all of a sudden, an object(s) in the scene would start to glow a very brilliant bluish-white. From there, one of two things would happen. The scene would either change and the process would repeat, or the object that was glowing would morph into another object. Objects in the scene ranged from abstract like cirlces or squares or seven segment display numbers to actual everday objects like an oscillating fan, or a light bulb. After watching them for awhile, I'd lose awareness and find myself in a DILD.

Really good podcast. I am a very big fan of waking through intention, I feel like if you can't wake up when you want to, through intention, then you won't be able to LD through auto suggestion either.

A lot of times if I don't feel like getting up for a WBTB, I will imagine something that gets my heart pumping a bit (sports or something). Then I stop and go back to my mantra and visuals.

Canis, you sound really freaking familiar, is there any reason that I should know you?

Originally Posted by poprockdreamboy

This Q&A was neat. The part where you talked about hypnogogic imagery was pretty cool. I used to have something similar to that when I was a kid, probably up until about 10 years old. They were really amazing. I'd close my eyes and see a fairly normal depiction of a given scene, and then all of a sudden, an object(s) in the scene would start to glow a very brilliant bluish-white. From there, one of two things would happen. The scene would either change and the process would repeat, or the object that was glowing would morph into another object. Objects in the scene ranged from abstract like cirlces or squares or seven segment display numbers to actual everday objects like an oscillating fan, or a light bulb. After watching them for awhile, I'd lose awareness and find myself in a DILD.

Cool, glad you liked it! It sounds like it's been quite some time since you've experienced this kind of HI but I wonder whether you could get this experience back. This is just the sort of thing we were talking about. If you ever perform a WBTB, you may find the hypnagogic imagery of your youth returning to you!

Originally Posted by BrandonBoss

Really good podcast. I am a very big fan of waking through intention, I feel like if you can't wake up when you want to, through intention, then you won't be able to LD through auto suggestion either.

A lot of times if I don't feel like getting up for a WBTB, I will imagine something that gets my heart pumping a bit (sports or something). Then I stop and go back to my mantra and visuals.

Thanks, Boss! Yeah, I bet you are all over this method of WBTB. Yours is the name that first comes to mind for me when I think about using intent to do all things LD. Also, cool idea getting the blood pumping a little (but not too much, of course ) to keep yourself from just rolling over and abandoning your WBTB.

Originally Posted by BrandonBoss

Canis, you sound really freaking familiar, is there any reason that I should know you?

Heh, that's interesting... do you perhaps remember me from the first episode? Other than that, I can't think of anyplace else my voice is really out there on the internet. Let me know if you think of where this feeling might have been from though! Maybe check with your subconscious on your next LD!

Glad to hear it! I don't mind being known for that. I think that it is something that more emphasis should be put on. Yeah, it takes less time to WBTB, thus more time dreaming.

I listened to this episode first. Can't quite place the voice. I thought that it sounded like Rhett (from RhettandLink) since he is an LDer, but when I re-listened to his voice I realized that it wasn't even really similar. I'll let you know if I find out. Keep posting these podcasts! They are awesome. You can get a lot covered in an hour of talking.

Originally Posted by BrandonBoss

I listened to this episode first. Can't quite place the voice. I thought that it sounded like Rhett (from RhettandLink) since he is an LDer, but when I re-listened to his voice I realized that it wasn't even really similar. I'll let you know if I find out. Keep posting these podcasts! They are awesome. You can get a lot covered in an hour of talking.

That's awesome that you said that! Because I love their style and was hoping to have a similar feel in our podcasts. We need more games or something though, huh. Oh and some intro music CL!

Originally Posted by CanisLucidus

Cool, glad you liked it! It sounds like it's been quite some time since you've experienced this kind of HI but I wonder whether you could get this experience back. This is just the sort of thing we were talking about. If you ever perform a WBTB, you may find the hypnagogic imagery of your youth returning to you!

I've been trying to get it back since my teen years. Of course, even when I was a kid, it didn't happen every night. At first, I thought it was due to a full moon, because the night that it happened, there was a full moon outside. I should also point out that the room needed to be nearly pitch-black dark. I'll have to try getting back on a regular sleep schedule so I can do WBTBs again.

Originally Posted by BrandonBoss

I listened to this episode first. Can't quite place the voice. I thought that it sounded like Rhett (from RhettandLink) since he is an LDer, but when I re-listened to his voice I realized that it wasn't even really similar. I'll let you know if I find out. Keep posting these podcasts! They are awesome. You can get a lot covered in an hour of talking.

That's hilarious! Ophelia told me the exact same thing (that I sound a little bit like Rhett.) I hadn't heard of them before she mentioned that, so I then wound up wasting tons of time listening to all of the hilarious stuff they've got on youtube. And I really appreciate the compliments on the podcast. It's great to hear that you like them and that the material is enjoyable even for advanced LDers.

Originally Posted by OpheliaBlue

Oh and some intro music CL!

Oh right, intro music! You can sing, so I'm expecting great things from you! Or if you prefer, I could record myself singing the high part from Aerosmith's "Dream On".

Originally Posted by poprockdreamboy

I've been trying to get it back since my teen years. Of course, even when I was a kid, it didn't happen every night. At first, I thought it was due to a full moon, because the night that it happened, there was a full moon outside. I should also point out that the room needed to be nearly pitch-black dark. I'll have to try getting back on a regular sleep schedule so I can do WBTBs again.

Good luck! I hope you see that HI again. You may want to consider experimenting with a sleep mask, too. That gets it really dark.

Really enjoy these, great job guys

Also a point about Pee Back To Bed, When you finally go to the bathroom you will feel very relaxed and may fall asleep easier, and half a liter seems to work good for me

I've got a question regarding hostile dream environments. In the podcast, y'all talked about hostile dream characters. Well, what about negative situations in dreams? Personal examples include electronics not working properly such as trying to turn my keyboard off, and the buttons not doing what they should do, not being able to move and my mom is calling me to come do something, getting stuck in a dream environment that resembles a bathroom with very dim fluorescent light, having clothes througout most of the dream, then at some point looking down and realizing that I'm naked. Other common examples include falling, getting lost, being late for an important event, failing a test or project. How do you deal with those hostile situations in a dream?