Meditation and Lucid Dreaming

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Status: CLOSED

Instructor: waving on oceans

Description: Lucid Dream Meditation is a technique that integrates meditation with lucid dreaming. There are many advantages, from a meditative viewpoint, the sleep state offers. While asleep, the mind is fully disconnected with information streaming in from the body. This disconnection between mind and body is perfect to foster a meditative reflection. During long meditation sessions a similar disconnect can also occur, but this requires long hours of practice. By learning the basics of both meditation and lucid dreaming, while practicing both methods, the practitioner is allotted a fully relaxed body, a heightened awareness, and armed with a sharpened mind.

Time: First Live Chat: 12 noon GMT -10

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Hey Everyone!

Everything is in motion for the class to start. I am still waiting to hear an exact date, but until then please check in from time to time.

Feel free to PM me with any questions!

I'm in.

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Though i still have no experience with meditation, i would really like to change this soon!
So sign me up! :)

Not sure if I have to register again, but just to make sure:
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Sure, why not? I'm in!!

sign me up :)

Sounds very interesting. I'm in.

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Count me in! :D

This looks awesome, I'm in

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I'm in.

I'd like to sign up. I have a decent amount of experience with both meditation and lucid dreaming, and I often use the former to enhance the latter, but I'm definitely interested to learn what you have to offer about the both in tandem!

I'm keen

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What's up with the TBA time?

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Hey everyone,

I've just learned that classes are to start sometime this week (possibly as early as monday):cheeky:

I'd like to ask what time zone everyone is in and when people will be available for live chat.

A "Lucid Dream Meditation" thread will be added into the "Courses" section shortly. Please check in the next few days for more updates.

Thanks for your patience!!!

I'm in GMT -8, and I'm available pretty much every day after school (4-10pm my time, 3-10pm on Tuesday/Thursday) and all day on weekends, as long as I don't have to get up too early.

Is there any sort of application other than just posting in this thread? Is everyone automatically accepted, or would that make for too big of a class?

Signing in....unless admissions have already closed. Idea of Lucid Meditation sounds intriguing.

I'm on Australian Eastern Standard time- though plenty of free time so it may just work out.

I was wondering whether class would get too crowded as well- maybe there's going to be 'Course 1 A-M' and 'Course 2 N-Z'. Both with the same information but just so monitoring the classes may just be easier on the professors half....anyway, I'm rambling now.

Timezone here is central european (GMT+1). For the next one or two weeks I can more or less deal with any time, later I dont know because I might have a job then :)
I wouldn't worry too much about too many people joining, because I assume that some people will just drop the whole thing sooner or later anyway for several reasons (not enough time, just forgetting about the whole thing, motivational drop etc.).
If the class were to be split (which I don't assume because waving on oceans probably needs a little sleep too and maybe even has a life besides giving courses on DV ;) ), then it would probably better to split by timezone rather than by name.
That being said, depending on how this whole thing will be managed/structured, it will be certainly a good idea to keep the content somewhere where people in the course can access it later, because almost everyone might probably miss one or two (live) lessons for different reasons and it would be nice if everyone would still be up to date.

I just want to add that I am really looking forward to this and cant wait for it to begin :):):)
Thanks waving for doing this!

GMT 0 anytimes good

I'm on GMT -6 US Central time.

I'm also GMT+1

But i have no real obligations so anytime is good for me, i'll make it work ;)

i'm in!

GMT-5
I'm pretty busy this time of year but I usually get home around 4:30 - 5:00 and I typically have some time then.

US Eastern -4 for me. I can usually get on sometime after 4:00 PM.

Oh, forgot to mention, Friday I'm good after 5:00, Saturday and Sunday I'm open anytime more or less.

I'm at GMT exact, anytime after 4pm is good

i've never meditated before but from what i've heard it's very benificial to dreaming in general i cant imagine what it would do in an LD so with that you can.....
Count me in!

not sure i undesrstand the whole time zone thing but i think im in this:

GMT -5 US eastern time zone

i dont understand the live chat but i'm available any time from 5 to 9 pm on weekdays and from 12:00 pm to 5:00 pm on weekends

I am PST (GMT -7, it's daylight savings time) and am a highschool student so any time from 4:00PM to 11:00PM is pretty good for me (on weekdays at least, earlier in the day is fine on weekends).

I am GMT -10 (Hawaii) so this will be interesting.... perhaps our first live chat can be on the weekend, hopefully no one will have to be up at midnight or anything like that to join the first chat. I am available early in the morning (6 to about 8) and most afternoons and evenings (5pm-12am) as I usually go to sleep kinda late and wake up fairly early. I was thinking that the class as a whole should stay together ideally. I was thinking that 1) we should hold one live session on the weekends at a time where everyone can participate and 2) possibly have a day in the week where we can hold two shorter check-in/Q&A session, one in the morning and evening....that way people have an option to pick which one works for them.

That sounds ok with everyone?

That sounds good. You being on Hawaii time is actually great timing for me, but many of the others might have some problems. Hopefully we can find something good that works for everyone.

Hey,

While everyone is waiting I would like to throw some links your way to check out:

http://videosift.com/video/Tibetan-M...ugh-Meditation
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8652837.stm
http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/ji...f_insight.html
http://www.springerlink.com/content/k2hg216724k21411/
http://video.yahoo.com/watch/893971/3578622

Suggested Reading:
An Open Heart, by His Holiness the Dalai Lama
Be Here Now, by Baba Ram Dass
Autobiography of a Yogi, by Paramhansa Yogananda
Bhagavad Gita, climax of the Hindu Bible
Tao te Ching, by Lao-Tsu
Dhammapada, ascribed to be written by the Buddha himself

For those of you who are serious, I suggest at least going to the bookstore and reading An Open Heart, it is by far the best introductory book on meditation with excellent description of the various types of meditation. All the books listed above are written/inspired by enlightened minds and are EXCELLENT.

Watching Jill Bolte Taylor's "My Stroke of Insight" will be one of your first assignments. I will ask for a short description of what the video talks about and your reaction to it. This is an example of someone accidentally discovering nirvana. The reason I will be asking you to watch this video (either now or once class starts) is to give an example of someone who achieved this state without formal practice. Hopefully this will 1) give you an example of the wondrous nature of the human mind and 2) encourage you in your practice. If someone can have the experience accidentally (and she is most definitely an extreme case) that gives president for everyone else also having the experience.

The state of mind she refers to is an experience I have also been blessed to encounter in my life, one that I hope to share with you.

When exactly does the course begin? How do i sign up for this?

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When exactly does the course begin? How do i sign up for this?

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Well if you want to...you just did :D

Ok guys, here is the syllabus:

Spoiler for Lucid Dream Meditation Syllabus:

Lucid Dream Meditation Syllabus

Lucid Dream Meditation Syllabus

Introduction
Lucid Dream Meditation is a technique that integrates meditation with lucid dreaming. There are many advantages, from a meditative viewpoint, the sleep state offers a meditator. While asleep, the mind is fully disconnected with information streaming in from the body. This disconnection between mind and body is perfect to foster a meditative reflection. During long meditation sessions a similar disconnect can also occur, but this requires long hours of practice. By learning the basics of both meditation and lucid dreaming, while practicing both methods, the practitioner is allotted a fully relaxed body, a heightened awareness, and armed with a sharpened mind.

Format
The course will go four weeks. Over that time I plan to focus each week on one meditative technique with a schedule for daily meditations. Depending on the type of meditation, lengths will vary. I assume most students will be taking other DVA classes so Im sure you will all be saturated with information about recall, control, and various techniques.

Requirements
All that is required is a willing mind, and a pair of shoes.

Meditation Techniques
This course will focus on quickly learning the basics of meditation. Id say 80% of this technique is in the meditation prep and 20% in the dream- because once you do the work, the dream will take care of itself. Personally there are four meditations that I believe are the ones to work on, and they somewhat go in order:

1) Meditation to clear the mind.

This is where to begin. If you don't have experience with meditation I suggest checking out "Be Here Now" by Baba Ram Dass and "An Open Heart" by the Dalai Lama- both have insights into meditation and are both aimed at the beginner. (Id suggest reading them both)

In this section we will focus on clearing the mind. Meditations will include focusing on the breath, listening, basic stretching, and deep relaxation. Eventually this meditation will become the "warm-up" aspect of future meditations.

Just like keeping a Dream Journal, don't move on to the second phase until you have a strong base to work off of in the previous section.

2) Meditation to focus single-pointed concentration.

In this phase, one is exercising concentration and single-pointed focus. This would make sense- if you want to explore a different dimension of thought you can't be losing your focus on it. Placing all your concentration on a single object and holding that concentration is the goal here.

3) Meditation to explore abstractions/analytical meditation.

This meditation is difficult because, well, its abstract!! Im also combining two meditation techniques in this one- not so much that they are so similar, more that they both hold a similar importance- opening the mind.


4) Meditation on the nature of self/emptiness.

This is where its really at.

Lucid Dream Techniques
Next time you are in a lucid dream begin to meditate. :cheeky:

Practicing Mindfulness
This course will give best results while cultivating awareness. Be mindful of your surroundings as much as possible. With the added focus on your dreaming, the meditation practice, and practicing mindfulness you will see your inner-world reshape itself in many ways. Meditation has always helped to clear up my dream focus and increase my recall. While practicing all these techniques simultaneously, any and all efforts you place towards making gains in this genre are amplified (imo). Any and all progress made will depend on the amount of effort put in. Those who practice moderately will have moderate gains. Those who practice with full conviction gain the prize. (Im only telling you as I was told)

Tentative Schedule
I hope to have at least two or three days a week where everyone will make an effort to meet for live chat. Once a week (Most likely on the weekend) I will plan a talk on a subject that will probably go about a half hour long, often ending in a group meditation (YES! We will be doing group meditation...I wonder, this could be the first online group meditation of its kind...crazy). I would hope to have one chat a week devoted to questions and keep it more of a check-in day (this is where i may break up the class into a morning and evening sessions to make it easier for everyone). Depending on how everything goes I might plan to have group meditation sessions during chat and that would be it for the day :D

Week One
Class one: Introduction and General Discussion. Assignment: Watch "My stroke of Insight" by Jill Bolte Taylor on TED.com. Begin reading An Open Heart, by His Holiness the Dalai Lama (Highly suggested- if you don't want to buy it just go to the book store over a three day period and sit with your coffee or tea....just don't spill any on the pages :P
Class two: Introduction into meditation. First group meditation session.

Week Two
Class three: Meditation to Clear the Mind. Second group meditation. Assignment.
Class four: General Discussion Q/A Third group meditation.
Class five: Meditation to focus single-pointed concentration. Fourth group meditation. Assignment.

Week Three
Class six: Meditation to explore abstractions. Fifth group meditation. Assignment.
Class seven: Meditation to explore analytical thought. Sixth group meditation. Assignment.
Class eight: Group Meditation. Seventh group meditation.

Week Four
Class nine: Meditation on the nature of self/emptiness. Eighth group meditation.
Class ten: Group Meditation. Ninth group meditation.
Class eleven: Group Meditation. Tenth group meditation.

And here is my plan for our first live chat (date to be specified):

Spoiler for Class One:

Class One

This class will be introductory, everyone meet and greet. We will decide on when is a good time to conduct class in general and schedule the next class.

On the first day I will go over basic meditation, why one would be interested in doing it, and really hammer in: its like riding a bicycle: the only way to learn is to start trying and like all little kids, everyone one picks it up at a different pace.

The first assignment will be to check out the book: An Open Heart, by His Holiness the Dalai Lama. Also, I will ask students to watch the video "My Stroke of Insight" by PhD Jill Bolte Taylor:

http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/ji...f_insight.html

This is an example of how someone with NO meditation background was able to achieve nirvana ACCIDENTALLY- I hope to showcase here that this state of mind is PRE-EXISTING AND FULLY FUNCTIONAL for everyone. Its not a state of mind we are trying to develop, because it is already fully formed. We are merely trying to quiet the mind to ALLOW IT TO SURFACE. We are using dreams as a way to readily access this mind.

Answer questions.

As far as I can tell, classes will open here at DVA shortly (Everyone keep an eye out for an announcement from louie about this). A "courses" section of DVA will show up (can you all see that yet??) and in it all the threads for the courses. I will use the pull down windows (spoilers I learned they are called *winks at Naiya*) to organize the classes. The spoiler for the second class will *hopefully* go in the Lucid Dream Meditation thread once this dream-ship goes airborne. Currently, I would like everyone to fasten your seat belts cause I think we may be on the runway :cheeky:

Thanks everyone!!

Looks good :)

My time zone is.... +2 GMT :S

Ready to roll!! Can't wait to start!!!

sign me in, too

Ok just so everyone knows....there has been an on-going talk about prerequisites for these courses. I am more than willing to take anyone on, but the way DVA is structured there are some requirements (I don't know if this is for certain) There may be a minimum 2 week membership requirement. If you believe you may be subject to that cut off, private message me if you are serious about the course- as we may have to pull some strings. I assure you, even if it is a problem we can figure out something :D

Hellz yeh, dawg. I am in. GMT -4 EST US

Suckz there are different time zones.

Does one have to already be a lucid dreamer for this course? I'm on the road to becoming and LDer and making a lot of progress quickly. Meditation sounds very interesting, though if one does need to be an LDer before starting the course I might have to run through the non-chat syllabus afterwards.

No Falsename,

Much of what happens in dreams is due to your mental state of mind. Meditation will help you to focus your concentration, will, and awareness. As this happens you may find your dream recall, lucidity, and control improve. Hopefully this should help you to achieve lucidity, plus, unlike other courses most of the technique I am going to be teaching will be practiced in waking life. I leave it up to you to choose whatever dream method works best to induce the LDM state.

Just stay posted, check out the class.

Thanks,

-J

It looks like I won't actually be able to do your class. D: Sorry, it turns out I have just too much other stuff to do.

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It looks like I won't actually be able to do your class. D: Sorry, it turns out I have just too much other stuff to do.

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Im sorry to hear that uberyoshi,

perhaps another time

GMT -6.

I've got some other stuff going on as well, but I'll do my best to keep up with the course. Wednesdays and weekends are best for me, as well as late weekday evenings.

Ok everyone,

The LDM class is officially open!!! I would like to schedule our first live chat for this coming Saturday 12 noon GMT -10. I hope this time works for everyone. Since Im assuming the weekends are when most people are free it would be good to have the first class this weekend.

When class begins everyone can start their online DVA journals and access the LDM material in the "courses" section.

Id also like it, if possible, everyone could try to check in by this Friday. That way I will know who needs a PM reminder.

Thanks!!

Got it. :)

I'll be there! :)

Yay! :) I'll be there. What time would it be for me if I live in Canada - Saskatchewan ?

I just can't figure it out.

I believe I can be there! GMT -8 for me, so I think that translates to 10am my time.

I'm in GMT -7, which means that would be 3 p.m. locally so I think I can make it (versus 12 noon for GST -10). I found this website useful for figuring out the time, since I tend to get time zones mixed up:

http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/

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Originally Posted by oceanblue

I'm in GMT -7, which means that would be 3 p.m. locally so I think I can make it (versus 12 noon for GST -10). I found this website useful for figuring out the time, since I tend to get time zones mixed up:

http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/

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Thanks oceanblue,

If everyone could figure out what time 12 noon GMT -10 translates to where you are located, that would be a step in the right direction.

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I believe I can be there! GMT -8 for me, so I think that translates to 10am my time.

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Hey Morphenius,

I think that it will actually be 2pm your time....I am assuming you are on the west coast of the mainland yes?

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Yay! :) I'll be there. What time would it be for me if I live in Canada - Saskatchewan ?

I just can't figure it out.

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Saskatchewan is GMT -6.

I believe that willl translate to 4 pm your time if Im not mistaken

omg thats 7 am for me.oh well its all good even though i always sleep until like 12 on the weekends i'll definatley wake up at 7 for this.

hell i'd wake up at 5 for this.

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Originally Posted by waving on oceans

Hey Morphenius,

I think that it will actually be 2pm your time....I am assuming you are on the west coast of the mainland yes?

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Yes, I goofed. :P I'm not used to doing time conversions relative to places west of me. So 2pm it is! (And that should still work fine for me.)

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Originally Posted by johoiada

im in GMT - 5 when is that for my time?

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Hi johoiada,

I'm pretty sure that would be 5pm your time.

Cant we just say that the chat will be 10 p.m. GMT,so everyone can use a site like http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/ to figure out when that will be instead of calculating back and forth like crazy. Should make things a bit easier. :)

Oh No!! Am i to late to sign up ?!

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Saskatchewan is GMT -6.

I believe that willl translate to 4 pm your time if Im not mistaken

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Thank you! ^_^

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Originally Posted by waving on oceans

Ok everyone,

The LDM class is officially open!!! I would like to schedule our first live chat for this coming Saturday 12 noon GMT -10. I hope this time works for everyone. Since Im assuming the weekends are when most people are free it would be good to have the first class this weekend.

When class begins everyone can start their online DVA journals and access the LDM material in the "courses" section.

Id also like it, if possible, everyone could try to check in by this Friday. That way I will know who needs a PM reminder.

Thanks!!

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umm that might be a bit tricky for me. I'm GMT + 1 so I think that would be 11 pm for me which isn't too late, but I think I will be out that night. :(
Anyway if I'm back home in time I'll definitely join in.

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Originally Posted by lemmefly

Cant we just say that the chat will be 10 p.m. GMT,so everyone can use a site like http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/ to figure out when that will be instead of calculating back and forth like crazy. Should make things a bit easier. :)

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Yea that works, as long as thats the correct time :P

No, I dont think so.... :D

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Oh No!! Am i to late to sing up ?!

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No I don't think so :D

spelling fail. Tis now fixed

if im in Eastern time zone which i think is GMT -4. how do i calculate which time it will be for me?

I'm at GMT -8, so that's 2pm.

@Connor23: GMT -4 would be 6pm, I think.

Man I signed up for other classes but I wasn't aware of this one. If it's not to late can I hop in on this?

EDIT: I am on gmt - 7 and I might not be able to make it because of a previous engagement. Is it possible for a transcript to be made for people who can't make it?

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Man I signed up for other classes but I wasn't aware of this one. If it's not to late can I hop in on this?

EDIT: I am on gmt - 7 and I might not be able to make it because of a previous engagement. Is it possible for a transcript to be made for people who can't make it?

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That should be fine, this is going to be the first class to start as far as im aware.

I still need to find out from louie and Naiya when they will add all the students to the courses list so they can access the live chat.

I take it that it isn't too late so sign in for this, so count me in.

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Originally Posted by GlaringDream

Yay! :) I'll be there. What time would it be for me if I live in Canada - Saskatchewan ?

I just can't figure it out.

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*tilts head*

There's a lot of Saskatchewan people here. Thanks for getting people to convert the time for us. I knew I was going the wrong way.

http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/x...elwrongway.gif

Signing In

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That should be fine, this is going to be the first class to start as far as im aware.

I still need to find out from louie and Naiya when they will add all the students to the courses list so they can access the live chat.

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Just PM me the final list of students for your class and I will give them access.


STUDENTS:

This is the general format of the DVA core classes. You will be given access to two subforums of DVA. One is Current Courses, and the other is Student Workbooks. Your teacher will be posting the class syllabus, information, and misc. threads for your class in Current Courses. The syllabus should have information like class meetings, assignments, ect.

Most classes will have a few live chats. We have a private room for DVA classes in the IRC chat here. The teacher will go through their material in these live chats, and it's a great time for you students to be able to discuss and and questions in real time. If it is not possible to make a live chat, the chatlogs will be posted for reading. There will generally be assignments which will be related to the course. For example, a WILD class assignment may be to try to figure out the best time to attempt a WILD based on sleep stages and your personal sleep schedule & habits. Your assignments and dream journals (if required) can be posted in your own thread in Student Workbooks. All students are encouraged to comment on each other's Workbooks!

I'm in GMT -5. What's the transfer Is it 7:00 AM?

May I join... This is my first DV class I'll check out the rules to DV after this... I beleive GMT time is 5 hours ahead of me... So what time shall I be joining you guys?

You guys might find this website useful. ;)

Oh...
Thanks, Naya. I had not considered daylight saving in my calculations. :)

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I'm in GMT -5. What's the transfer Is it 7:00 AM?

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Well im in GMT -4 so im 6 hours ahead of -10 and my time for the class would be 6:00 PM

Your -5 so your 5 hours ahead of what -10 is so you would be 5:00 PM from what i understand

Here's a potentially simpler solution: Try Googling "Current time in Hawaii". The very first line of your Google results will state the current time in Hawaii. Doing this, I found out that Hawaii is three hours behind me (since it's 7:20pm where I am and it's 4:20pm in Hawaii), which tells me that if I want to be online at noon Hawaii time I actually need to be online at 3pm my time.

I think that's more reliable than trying to do a bunch of calculations. :)

can i join? i hope its not too late guys i really wanna learn

OMG for some reason I read your post as noon Sunday. If it's saturday I'll be there :) as long as I get approved ?!?¿!?¡?!

OK THIS SIGN IN THREAD IS NOW OFFICIALLY FINAL!!


Lol, ok guys if your post appears before this you are officially in the class!! Its going to be a full one. Unfortunately, if you aren't already signed in you will have to catch another class as I don't want people coming in at a latter date and also....the class is reaching max size lol.

I will PM Naiya a list of all the people in the course, and I will try to PM everyone as well just to remind them....the live chat begins.....16 hours from THIS post......

Its go time!! :D

It's not letting me in the chat. I read the chat room instructions, but It's not working. >_< There's no log in page or place to put the password.

When I click it, it says 'access denied' or 'no statistical data collected for this user/channel'

how do i join the chat

The chat isn't working for me either.

hey guys, can you see the channels?

just press the green text balloon icon in front of one of the channels, then you'll be able to login

then when you're in enter /join #DVA with the password in the text window

It just tells me I've been disconnected right after I write my username and password

I clicked the balloon but nothing happened. That's the green one with the blue one behind it, right?

Absolutely nothing happened.

Hey guys im having trouble getting into the chat

Sorry guys!!

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It's not letting me in the chat. I read the chat room instructions, but It's not working. >_< There's no log in page or place to put the password.

When I click it, it says 'access denied' or 'no statistical data collected for this user/channel'

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try this link: http://webchat.dreamviews.com:9090

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Originally Posted by waving on oceans

Hey guys im having trouble getting into the chat

Sorry guys!!

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try this link: http://webchat.dreamviews.com:9090

http://webchat.dreamviews.com:9090/

Try this link. Are you all able to get to the "connect to Dreamviews IRC" page, or is it not letting you get there? Once you're in the main channel in the chat follow feist's instructions.

I see a chat box but gives me denial notices....

That is the one I was trying. I'm having the same problem

i got in so i dont know whats wrong with others

Thanks for the link! I'm in.

Only, I didn't have to put in the password ? Is that right ?

Yes, GD, that's the one, it should take you to a login page... :s

I've tried that URL 10-20 times and I'm still getting disconnection notices right away.

"[15:27] == ERROR: Closing link: ([email protected]) [Access Denied - Please read http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=91226 for further info!]
[15:27] == Disconnected from server: Connection to IRC server lost."

im srry i have to miss the first class my ps3 cant load th chat sorry

For the password, do you just type it into the chat line at the bottom after you signed in

Do you just go /Join #DVA password

just like that? with the password in place of password, of course.

I even downloaded mIRC and it still disconnects.

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For the password, do you just type it into the chat line at the bottom after you signed in

Do you just go /Join #DVA password

just like that? with the password in place of password, of course.

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Yes.

I still can't get in, what password am I supposed to be using?

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I still can't get in, what password am I supposed to be using?

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http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=96654

Supernova, i just pm'd you the password!

Ok, just got that pm, thanks. At least I'll know for next time :P

for the record, I got the pm after I posted

sry guys i couldnt make it to the session this morning.
i can see you guys have had problems accesing the chat i hope that you guys resolved it and majbe help me with some questions.

1. is there a cirtain timetable which i could see to check out session times or will there just b a post about it 15 or so hrs b4 it starts?
2. is it possible to join even though the session hasnt started yet? for exaple can i join chat now?

thats about all i can think of right now. umm hope yu can help me out.

thanks guys it really feels like a community here xD

Haha, yes I was seeing this happen....and I tried to alert the staff that we needed more instructions but the message didn't get there in time.

Perhaps a note for other classes: run a pre-class check in so everyone can be there for the first chat, including the professor ><

Hope you all enjoyed the chat, next weeks will hopefully run a little more smoothly. I won't use my wireless- I will just move closer to the modem before class starts

Feel free to PM me if you have any questions!

Thanks!!

I'm in!

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STUDENTS:

This is the general format of the DVA core classes. You will be given access to two subforums of DVA. One is Current Courses, and the other is Student Workbooks. Your teacher will be posting the class syllabus, information, and misc. threads for your class in Current Courses. The syllabus should have information like class meetings, assignments, ect.

[...]Your assignments and dream journals (if required) can be posted in your own thread in Student Workbooks. All students are encouraged to comment on each other's Workbooks!

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Hello Naiya,

Waving on Oceans asked us to post our review of the video "Stroke of Insight" in the Student Workbooks forum. I just now tried to do so but was denied access. Am I supposed to do something special in order to post a new thread there?

Okay, I told you that I would link you the read on mediation from the My Big TOE book. So here it is.

It's the whole chapter, if you find it interesting, you can consider buying the trilogy:

Who Ya Gonna Call?

Since there is no where else to post this ATM here it is.

My Stroke of Insight

I found this video to be very interesting. I liked to see the way she recalled her experiences, the emotion she conveyed was amazing. That gave me inspiration to use more emotion and feeling in my analysis and recolection of dreams and mediation experiences. I loved the way she explained what being free of her left hemisphere was like. This video very well demonstrated what the little voice in your head is. Although it is more vocal than I thought. I understand now how this video pertained to our first class and I think it was a great choice of material.

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Originally Posted by Morphenius

Hello Naiya,

Waving on Oceans asked us to post our review of the video "Stroke of Insight" in the Student Workbooks forum. I just now tried to do so but was denied access. Am I supposed to do something special in order to post a new thread there?

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Hmm, I went through everyone and you should all have access. We shuffled around the DVA forums so the permissions might be a little messed up. Does anyone else have no access to the student forums? I will go bug Alex about this asap, as he's the only one who can edit usergroups/permissions themselves. :P

I'm having the same problem, just to let you know.

DV Academy > Student Workbooks > Post New Thread

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Samael, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

1. Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
2. If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.

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I'm getting the same.

Same here...

Sorry to be a pain...is a chat log from Saturday up?

OK...getting this sorted out, then. Sorry for the trouble, guys. You're the first class, so consider yourselves the guinea pigs for the reopening. :D

Yep, I'm also unable to post a new thread. But until this issue is resolved this is what I think about the two things we've been given:
My Stroke of Insight: It was fascinating to get a subjective interpretation of the hemispheric differences in the brain in terms of what they are capable of and the emotional respsonse they produced in the doctor. She was clearly deeply affected and enlightened and I am now inspired to be enlightened. It was as if she had touched on the pinnacle of human nature.

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Originally Posted by Specialis Sapientia

Okay, I told you that I would link you the read on mediation from the My Big TOE book. So here it is.

It's the whole chapter, if you find it interesting, you can consider buying the trilogy:

Who Ya Gonna Call?

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Yeah I read it just now, it's pretty interesting and also provides a very useful attitude to start with as well as some simple guides.
I've also found another exercise on youtube and I wanted some of the more experienced meditators to tell me their thoughts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH2sEqrCza4
That's the video. I've used the 'rising, falling' thing and also when I experience emotions I say in my head, 'angry' or something like that. As a very emotional person I have found that saying the word separates me from the feeling. It evaporates and I don't feel weighed down. Since using this I've noticed that I get angry so often and I haven't got rid of it healthily in the past.
Anyway tell me what you think of this method. I will try the meaningless mantras too and see what effects they have.

Yeah, "Who Ya Gonna Call?" was pretty interesting, but I'm afraid I'll have to try something other than mantras. Even "meaningless" sounds can put me in mind of all sorts of things, hehe. :cheeky:

Ok, you all should have access to the DVA subforums now. Please check and let me know. :)

Acces granted! :)

Excellent. :)

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Originally Posted by Naiya

Ok, you all should have access to the DVA subforums now. Please check and let me know. :)

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Yes, I do. Thank you!

Working. :)

Are we meeting again today? It's currently 9am my time (west coast USA), and I think we're supposed to meet again in six hours (3pm my time, noon Hawaii time). Is that the case?

Good question, haven't heard anything?

Hey guys, yep same time as last week

I can't make it someone get a transcript for me please

Sorry guys, i'm afraid i wont be able to attend today's class either, a log of the chat session would be greatly appreciated!

hey guys...did i miss the lesson? im sry guys im still confused about the times i think the easiest way to go about this was like last week where you posted that it was ''its exactly 12hrs from this post'' my time zone is GMT+10 and im from Australia

thanks i really want to attend the classes sometime

Oh... was there a class today? o.0

waiving you might have wanted to post a little sooner with chat times. Does anyone have a transcript? :)

if anyone gets a transcript, could you PM it to me as well? I was out when he posted about the time and by the time I got back it was too late.

Aren't the chatlogs going to be posted in the class thread? If not, then send me a copy too please.

Sorry for any confusion guys....the class transcript is posted in the new Lucid Dream Meditation thread in the courses section.

This weeks assignment, which i am going to post in the class thread, is to do two sessions of settled meditation, each for fifteen minutes. One is to be done in a dimly lit room and the other in the sun. We talked about this in the chat, you can post in the class thread with any questions.

Thanks!

hey no one has replyed for a few days now and im wondering if the class is on tomorrow saturday. abd if it is its the same time as last weeks ye?

Omg, I feel like such an idiot!!

Since it's a long weekend, it totally slipped my mind that today is Saturday. I can't believe I forgot about class. *facepalm* T_T

My apologies, I forgot to mention I wouldn't be in class this last time due to seeing a pair of friends getting married. :) I'll read the chat log later to catch up as appropriate.

Well, only me and 2-3 others showed up. Waving on oceans didn't show up so there was no class.

Yeah, the chat log will mostly be: "Is there a class right now?" "No idea." "Probably." "Maybe?"

Waving bit off more then he could chew I think.

Truth. Maybe the classes should have an assistant teacher or two? To salvage the chat sessions if anything goes wrong, at least.

I PM'd Waiving. Now I'm waiting for a response. If he doesn't respond or get class going, we may have to cancel this class altogether :P

Hey guys,

I really do apologize for not showing for last class. I will be there tomorrow (it will be interesting to see if anyone shows up).

Thanks guys!!

I'm afraid I'll have to duck out again this week. I'm helping a friend get her wedding together right at that time.

I'll be there unless something comes up waiving. do you have chat logs from class two?

I believe the class 2 log is in the other class thread (in the subforum)

ty for the chat logs

gahh something came up and I'm not going to make it to thr chat. Logs please. I'll pm stuff to you waiving

Uhh... I have a family reunion thing tomorrow. >.> Sorry! I feel bad for missing 2/3 classes so far. =(

can someone specify the exact time and day of the next lesson in GMT please.

argh sorry my browser crashed so I got kicked out of the chat. I swear I was only gone a couple minutes, I got back in and you guys had left. lol

Sorry I missed class. I went deep in a poker tournament and forgot about everything else. I'll check the logs obviously. (I won the tournament btw)

congrats Jakro

Hey everyone, ok so if you haven't seen the new thread, its posted in the courses section in the DVA main section...it is a thread called Lucid Dream Meditation. The live chat logs are posted there...

Just so everyone gets an update- I missed last weeks class but apparently only like 5 or 7 people showed up. I am going to send out a PM to everyone enrolled and see who is still interested.

The class times will most likely move...i just dont know what time yet, and I will have to confirm this with louie and alex.

Try to check back in by friday....I will try to either move class to the morning or the evening on this upcoming saturday.

Thanks!!

Signing in

Count me in! Signed

never got that pm, but I'm still in

I also never got a PM, but I won't be able to make it to the next couple classes anyway. I'm thinking I should just drop it and sign up for the next time this class is offered (assuming there is one... I'm hoping there will be).

Closed due to lack of communication from professor