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      Harry Potter and the something or other

      Alright, so who's seen the latest Harry Potter film? I thought it was quite good. I heard some complaints that it was missing too much from the book, but for crying out loud there's only so much that can be squeezed into a movie before it becomes less of a movie and more of an obnoxiously-daunting epic that wears itself out long before reaching an ending--an ending that is ultimately revealed to a long-since deserted theatre. I had read the book but that was a couple years before, so I cannot say what was missing but the majority of what was present was quite familiar, and in my opinion certainly sufficient.

      It hasn't felt to me like the actors are growing too old to be playing the roles they have, and I could see them returning for the next Harry Potter film. Well, except for Ron's two older twin brothers--anyone else think it's a little odd to see them acting the least mature of all the characters?

      Oh, and for the life of me I can't remember the full name of the movie right now.
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      i thought it was a pretty good movie ( expecially the best of the harrypotter movies so far ) I thought that the ending dragged out a bit to much though.

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      It’s “Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire”.

      Lucius and I went to see it recently and we both loved it. Of course there was a lot missing from the book, but the movie was almost three hours long. I’m glad that Dutch theatres stop for a pee break halfway through movies. It’s been a long time since I read Goblet of Fire, so I’m not sure what exactly was missing either. Dobby and Luna Lovegood didn’t make an appearance (I swear Luna was in this book…), and I seem to remember more about that annoying reporter chick. I don’t think they mentioned why Neville was so upset at seeing the Crucio Curse on that little spider critter, either. I guess they just assume that most viewers have read the books. I also remember seeing Sirius more in the book. In fact, I think he and Harry had more chats through the fire (by the way, that was a neat, if a little creepy effect).

      Which brings me to the special effects… I love that we live in a time where we can see Hogwarts in all it’s grandeur and oddity come to life on the screen. The ship and the coach pulled by pegasi were so cool. And the Quidditch game rocked! It’s so nice to be submerged into a fantasy like that.

      Anyway, I think the actors are fine for the last few movies. Even if they did look a tad old (which I don’t think they do), I would prefer that they finish the series anyway. I can’t imagine any other actor playing any of the characters. Even the Weasley twins. I’d rather see them in the role than a stranger. This or next movie is their last year in Hogwarts, anyway. By now, the cast has become so familiar. I’m still a little disappointed by this Dumbledore, but I think that’s because I’m biased to Richard Harris as an actor. Aside from that, all of the characters are pretty much exactly how I pictured them when I read the book. I think if any of them change during the coarse of the series, it’ll be hard to adjust to a new actor.

      Oh, and is it just me or was Voldemort a whiny bitch in this one? He can frickin kill someone with one word! What the hell does he have to whine about?

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      they also cut out like all the quiditch cup i think.

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      I just saw the movie last night. I really enjoyed it. I did notice that there was a lot missing from the books too, but alas, it is a movie. Three hours is plenty enough for me. I too, could not see anyone else playing the characters. Even some of the less important ones, it just wouldn't be the same. But anyway, I thought the movie was great.

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      I've just been calling it "Goblet." You know, like how Star Wars fans just call The Empire Strikes Back, "Empire."

      I'm going to go see Goblet in a couple hours, hopefully avoiding a busy crowd, since it's a Sunday night.

      It was my favorite of all the books. It was just so climactic, you know? There were clear stages and movements of the characters, building up tension. The momentum of the story starts with an innocent WTF? as Harry's name just pops out of the goblet, instead of a looming danger. Makes the ending that much more spectacular.

      The last two books have just been far too dreary. I just hate, hate what she did with Snape. I thought he was going to be all awesome, but no.

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      Spoiler warning for all books and such.


      Damn good movie. All the little adjustments they made were just fine. I hate house elves anyway. Giving Neville more attention was great. It was even more jolting when Moody had him standing in front of the whip spider while it was being crucio'ed.

      I was literally shaking a little during the final moments of the duel. So beautiful and important for Harry. They leave it pretty mysterious in the book, and even more in the movie. Nonetheless, It's the turning point for the entire series. Also happens to be the last good part of the series in my view. Maybe the movies will turn it around for me? Fat chance, though. (But, then, maybe if I go in with really low expectations, then those expectations will be met )

      There was a small unfortunate resemblance to a Scooby-Doo ending, during the part when we see Moody's identity. They showed that dude was getting a little crazier by the end anyways, and he was low on polyjuice, so that could explain why he went on about himself and took his sweet time.

      What's all this business about Dumbledore saying "there's no spell that can raise the dead." Did they not just raise Voldemort from the dead? Or do they get around that by saying he was never dead and that he returned from a horcrux? I don't remember. And yet his parents were clearly assisting him in ghost form, along with Cedric, actually telling him to take his body back, not to mention Moaning Mertile helping Harry out with the second task. Crying out loud. I can't take all this inconsistency. You can't have it both ways, Rowling!

      And Ralph Fiennes, just horrible that they had to completely cover his face in prosthetics and makeup, while being bald, having no nose, and destroying his voice so that it is nothing but a raspy whisper. Fiennes is always smooth and debonaire. That takes away everything Ralph Fiennes is. What a disappointment. Anyone could have played Voldemort with all those cheesy modifications.

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      I preferred the 3rd movie. I thought it was more complete as a story, whereas The Gobler of Fire started in on a whole bunch of mini-plots from the book, yet didn't finish them. They should have either left those little things out completely, or finished them as they were in the book. I also thought the interactions between characters in the 3rd movie were better done, and really took center stage.

      I think it would be a horrible move to go replacing actors, especially the main characters. A move like that just has 'bad franchise' written all over it. Anyway, I've seen people in their 20's play reasonably convincing highschool students. Even if the characters do look a little too old, a few years isn't really any big deal.
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      I have seen a few of the movies. I guess they are not bad. But certainly not good. The fact that they just raped harry potter commercially is stupid.

      And all this stuff OH LETS MAKE IT ALL SCARY AND SHIT. Why do that JK fagling chages the story from a happy fairy childernstory to a hardcore pornomovie with people dieng?
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      hey, check this out:

      my friend says his girlfriend's mom was J.K. Rowling's neighbour for a couple years before she became famous (i don't know if she had even started writing the first harry potter at that time). i thought that was pretty cool!
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      Originally posted by icedawg
      hey, check this out:

      my friend says his girlfriend's mom was J.K. Rowling's neighbour for a couple years before she became famous (i don't know if she had even started writing the first harry potter at that time). i thought that was pretty cool!
      cool. Some-one that was in my school class 10 years ago had a famous childern horro-book writer as neighbor ^___^

      But hey, unless you live next to bill gates and such it doesn't matter next to who you live.
      (becouse then probably you have a pool aswell ^__^ )
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      As ALS brought up, I wish they'd kept it as Dobby giving Harry the Gillyweed. Also, I thought that they should have gone more into the young Barty Crouch's past. In all honesty, the only part I didn't like, was when we saw Barty Crouch Sr. laying in the forest and then they just left it! I mean, what do they think we're going to think? Note everyone's read the book. And having B.C. Jr. explain what he had really been doing at the end, I though, would have cleared up a lot of confusion. And it wouldn't have taken too much longer. Oh, and they could have cut out the whole Moaning Myrtel... thing. Meh.

      In all honesty I did like the movie and found it satisfying, knowing that they would have had to cut out a bunch of stuff. And Luna Lovegood doesn't appear until Book 5. That's when Harry... tells his story... and I don't want to say anything else.

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      I just saw the movie. I never read the book ( I just do not like the Harry Potter books) It was...long. The movie felt too long and never quite conveyed that feeling that a whole year passed. I felt too bounced around, it was very episodic. I don't understand how that man who was the teacher ( the guy with the eye) was replaced. Was he ever him in the first place? And how did the man who replaced him know all of those things to get harry to do what he wanted to? The story just tied up to cheesy and "scooby doo"ish for me. Reminds me of the play "mouse trap" in the way how everything was solved but the solution didn't make sense because it was just made to fit for the sake of fitting.
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      Well, Barbizzle, the book explains just about everything. I'd be more than happy to tell you the background information, so as to not give away more spoilers to those who want to read the books.

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      OK first of all I am a big fan of all the books and a fan of all the movies. Yes, they are movis and there's a limit to how much can go into hem before they get too long, but I ask you this. How long was Titanic? 3+ hours, and still a good movie. But I for one, and it might just be me, would much rather watch 5 hours of one Harry Potter movie if they got ALL the stuff in it, then a 3 hour movie where like 1000+ people die, which I also enjoy.

      In this movie, my opinion is way too much stuff was left out that was some of the best parts, and some of the most important plot points. For example - In the beginning when Harry is found at the World Cup, they Ministry people are supposed to suspect him as the one who summoned the Deatheater sign.

      The thing that pissed me off the most was that in the maze, they kept out the sphinx. She was one of my favorite thing in the book.
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      OMG - how did I miss this topic?? I'm am a huge Harry Potter fan - and I have to say I know more about the Harry Potter series than anyone else on this site (not being conceited - I just know). I'm a huge HP nerd and I'm not afraid to admit it! Anyway...

      Originally posted by A Lost Soul
      Dobby and Luna Lovegood didn’t make an appearance (I swear Luna was in this book…)
      Luna Lovegood doesn't appear until the 5th book "The Order of the Phoenix."

      Originally posted by Ex Nine
      [What's all this business about Dumbledore saying "there's no spell that can raise the dead." Did they not just raise Voldemort from the dead? Or do they get around that by saying he was never dead and that he returned from a horcrux? I don't remember.
      Yes, you're correct about the horcruxes keeping Voldemort alive. He will only be able to be mortally killed when all the horcruxes are destroyed. If you read the 6th book "The Half-Blood Prince", you will remember that there are 7 horcruxes total - the diary from "The Chamber of Secrets" which Harry destroyed, the ring that was Tom Riddle's grandfather's and Slytherin's heir which Dumbledore destroyed and ruined his right hand, Slytherin's locket, Hufflepuff's cup, something from Gryffindor's or Ravenclaw's, possibly Nagini Voldemort's snake, and the last horcrux resides inside Voldemort's body. Once all the horcruxes are destroyed, Voldemort may be attacked and effectively killed.

      Originally posted by Ex Nine
      And yet his parents were clearly assisting him in ghost form, along with Cedric, actually telling him to take his body back, not to mention Moaning Mertile helping Harry out with the second task. Crying out loud. I can't take all this inconsistency. You can't have it both ways, Rowling!
      The ghost forms of Cedric and Harry's parents are not them brought back from the dead. The are echoes of the spells that killed them - Priori Incantatem makes the wand spill out the spells it has previously cast, therefore spewing out the "echo" of Cedric and Harry's parents. And Moaning Myrtle is a ghost that never crossed-over to begin with.

      So nobody was brought back from the dead with magic in either of these cases.

      Originally posted by Ex Nine
      And Ralph Fiennes, just horrible that they had to completely cover his face in prosthetics and makeup, while being bald, having no nose, and destroying his voice so that it is nothing but a raspy whisper. Fiennes is always smooth and debonaire. That takes away everything Ralph Fiennes is. What a disappointment. Anyone could have played Voldemort with all those cheesy modifications.
      Actually, I thought Ralph Fiennes did a great job portraying Voldemort. That character would be so hard to live up to because in the books, he the pinnacle of an evil sorceror, and you picture this horrible being in your mind. So of course that would be hard to communicate to the movie screen. They did a good job of sticking to what Voldemort was described to look like in the books - white skin and a flat snake-like nose. They didn't give him red eyes in the movie, though, which he did possess in the books. I think Ralph Fiennes' eyes have a eerie quality anyway (even without makeup they look mysterious), so I think the character was cast very well.

      So anyway, regarding "The Goblet of Fire" movie, I thought it was the best of the movies so far, but that's because the book was the best of the series so far, in my opinion. It's more of an epic with the Triwizard Tournament than any of the other books. My other favorite books were "The Prisoner of Azkaban" and "The Half-Blood Prince".

      Originally posted by Barbizzle
      I just saw the movie. I never read the book ( I just do not like the Harry Potter books) *It was...long. *The movie felt too long and never quite conveyed that feeling that a whole year passed. *I felt too bounced around, it was very episodic. *I don't understand how that man who was the teacher ( the guy with the eye) was replaced. *Was he ever him in the first place? *And how did the man who replaced him know all of those things to get harry to do what he wanted to? *The story just tied up to cheesy and "scooby doo"ish for me. *Reminds me of the play "mouse trap" in the way how everything was solved but the solution didn't make sense because it was just made to fit for the sake of fitting.
      Anyone who hasn't read the books, can't really give an good opinion about the movies because they are so different. You REALLY need to read the books before seeing the movie - then I promise you will totally appreciate it. The books are too in-depth and detailed for all the stuff to make sense in a movie that they had to cut stuff out of. I hate when people say they didn't like the movie, and when asked if they've read the books, they say no. So don't complain then! I'm sorry but you just don't get it without reading the books.

      "The Goblet of Fire" book has 734 pages. A two and a half hour long movie only has about 100 pages worth of pages - so that tells you how much they had to cut from the book. I think they did a good job with the time they had to work with. Originally, filmmakers were thinking of turning "Goblet" into a 2 part movie - but decided on one movie in the end, because they couldn't come up with 2 separate plots for each movie - and I'm glad they only did one.

      Filming for "The Order of the Phoenix" movie has already begun, and tentatively will be released in theaters Summer of 2007.

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      Are they going to make ALL of the books into films?

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      Originally posted by dudesuperior
      Are they going to make ALL of the books into films?
      no just the first 6

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      Emma Watson is sooo gorgeous. I've had a crush on her for as long as I can remember.

      *siiiiiiiigh*

      Oh yeah the film was good too. Only cuz of Emma.

      I used to look like HP too... freaky coincidence?!?! I don't anymore though, thank god.

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      Originally posted by Pensive Patrick

      I used to look like HP too... freaky coincidence?!?! I don't anymore though, thank god.
      Yeah me too, but I traded my old glasses for contacts

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      How do you pronounce "Horcruxes"?
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      Originally posted by Umbrella
      How do you pronounce "Horcruxes"?
      whore-crucks-ez ?

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      Originally posted by dudesuperior


      whore-crucks-ez ?
      Oh ok, just wanted to make sure, thanks. >.>
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      Originally posted by OpheliaBlue
      no just the first 6
      I wonder how many people would get that?

      I'm sad that there's only one more book in the series, but I'm excited to see how she concludes it.

      ... just wait until my book(s) come(s) out.... but first I\'ve got to finish a book.

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      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUwOJgOXvXA...%20potter%20gay

      Hilarious. The movie comes out today!! On my birthday!! What a great gift to myself - I'm such a nerd...

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