What kind of music should I listen to?

[Timothy Paradox]

I'm a fan of trance music, but I also listen to alternative stuff like (I know you guys have never heard of these before) Vibrasphere and Entheogenic (go to youtube if you wanna know what kind of music I mean) The problem is that I find it really hard to find more music I like. Even youtube isn't infinite apparently, because I can't find any more trance tracks. If anyone wants to recommend something, please do so.

[dylanshmai]

maybe you should expand you're interests into higher forms of music (yes I used that word because it does exist...its called "jazz" sadly and its for the most advanced music listeners...sadly). I like trance, and my sister's boyfriend is a popular DJ here, but lots of it gets recycled and everyone who makes it ends up being confined to the rules that its sub genres set like even tempo! music making for me is about not being confined. I would recommend jazz for its abstract timing which sets it far beyond any other music genre. I will even recommend a fast and energetic rock-jazz band to give you a taste of what psychedelic is: Return To Forever. I know its a bit off topic, but I'm just trying to help you out finding whats real.

[Timothy Paradox]

maybe you should expand you're interests into higher forms of music (yes I used that word because it does exist...its called "jazz" sadly and its for the most advanced music listeners...sadly). I like trance, and my sister's boyfriend is a popular DJ here, but lots of it gets recycled and everyone who makes it ends up being confined to the rules that its sub genres set like even tempo! music making for me is about not being confined. I would recommend jazz for its abstract timing which sets it far beyond any other music genre. I will even recommend a fast and energetic rock-jazz band to give you a taste of what psychedelic is: Return To Forever. I know its a bit off topic, but I'm just trying to help you out finding whats real. And I think you need to learn to accept that not everybody is like you. It's not because YOU think Jazz is da bomb that everybody agrees with that. This attitude is what causes wars.

[dylanshmai]

I can't even comprehend jazz, its too complex for my understanding. I could listen to one jazz record for the rest of my life trying to get into it. Its hard, its a challenge, but its just another approach to music. Jazz is not just a genre like trance, it literally is a completely different way of approaching music compared to the boom-boom-boom-boom sounds that date back before even the Beetles. Nothing wrong with my attitude here, but if you're bored with what you got or are interested in finding something new, that would be my first suggestion. I am not saying that jazz is the bomb and that everyone agrees with me, it just is.

[Kushna Mufeed]

maybe you should expand you're interests into higher forms of music (yes I used that word because it does exist...its called "jazz" sadly and its for the most advanced music listeners...sadly). Do you have any idea how arrogant you sound? You can't classify one genre of music as objectively "higher" than any other genre. It's personal taste and preference. It's just like the Christians imposing their "higher" culture on "lower" people.

[dylanshmai]

that wasn't the comparison I was shooting for. It just is higher because its more complex, that doesn't mean that its faster or slower, because either way its more complex, and thats where I based my decision to make a controversial statement like that. That does mean that its most likely going to be better music, it just takes time and realization and more time spent than you probably spent listening and understanding trance and the feeling that gives you, because the feeling of jazz would be...well...better. ...its like comparing a square to a circle. and a circle (jazz) trying to explain itself to a square (trance, hip-hop, pop, probably anything you've heard on the radio) Jazz floats in the wind and sometimes you're lucky enough to catch it but most of the time you don't. Its something that requires full alertness and attention to even begin to appreciate it. I could play video games while eating pop corn while listening to most trance stuff and still appreciate it to its full potential, and it does not float in the wind. A better analogy for it would be "between the chair and my butt", but I still like listening to it on drugs. What I'm shooting for is to be able to listen to jazz on drugs now that is an achievement worth writing about.

[Kushna Mufeed]

Ah, I didn't understand. But what do you mean by more complex? Is there more going on? (e.g. more instruments?)

[dylanshmai]

It doesn't necessarily need more instruments, though many electronic musicians do jazz now like DJ's do trance and are capable of adding as many layers. But what it really comes down to it timing, its like a whole undiscovered world of timing and writing that gives the feeling of abstractness or complexity that trance has never been able to do better.

[Timothy Paradox]

Once again, that's YOUR opinion. I love trance, it gives me the chills (in a good way) and I'm not gonna change my opinion (I can't) because you tell me Jazz is better. By songs become popular because they sound great from the first time you listen to them. I don't want music that requires you to listen to it a hundred times before I "understand" it. I think you and I just want different things from music in general. I want that feeling, you wants rythm and complexity. That's fine

[Kushna Mufeed]

Eh, I'm not really getting it. I suppose I'll have to look into it. Myself, I listen to Rap and Piano. Both do different things for me. I prefer rap for the lyrics more than the music itself (I'm not talking about the mainstream garbage out there these days). The rhymes and play on words that some of these guys do is mind blowing. When it comes to the music used in rap, though, I prefer more rythmic and upbeat music. For me it's the relation between the rhythm of music and lyrics that make Rap work. The fusion of beat and poetry. Piano is purely for the melodic properties. For some reason I like the sound of the Piano above all other instruments. I only really know about the Final Fantasy Piano Collections in terms of this genre. I'd like to look deeper into this genre, but I'm more interested in finding artists that write and play their own music then playing something that someone composed. I guess this about me comes from the expectations I have for Rap. If a rapper hasn't written his own rhymes, he's somewhat of a fraud to me. But it would also apply with all genres of music for me. For me, that makes the music performed feel more genuine.

[AirRick101]

Well, I do find jazz a highly respectable form of music, when it comes to creativity and improvisation (which is its forte). Trance is cool, I don't mind it. Not too familiar with the underground stuff, but I love ATB's stuff, "Ecstasy" being my favorite of his. I actually had a stage where I was hella into Eurobeat (I was really into Initial D) I'm really into HipHop and R&B, but mainly because I dance to the stuff. And in contrast to what a lot of others say, I have a lot of respect for rap. Freestyle mostly, but even creating a track with a flow that rides the beat while delivering a message w/o losing a sense of humor = win.

[dylanshmai]

oh, jazz will sound great through a first listen, but its a taste to acquire just like trance, but a much more difficult one to get into. Jazz is "groovy" trance is well..."hammering?" and thats not an opinion, thats based on how the music is written. you make it sound like you have to compensate for something in order to like jazz, but "growing" would be a fair analogy. and since the feeling is more complex it has the ability to paint something with fewer notes or paint something much bigger with fewer notes (another analogy) but mostly painting something trance can not paint. Most of todays Trance is a marketing gimmick and there for most of the artists are void of having to write things like jazz, because most of the world has dumbed there listening down to these things. But back in the 60's people were listening to Pink Floyd and Return To Forever!!! and then things devolved to things like techno and trance. its really that simple, and I am a victim myself.

[Timothy Paradox]

I love trance. That's the end of it. You clearly lack the ability to accept that not everbody thinks the way you do. You = jazz me = trance. Stop trying to convince me your music is better - you're a fundie.

[Kushna Mufeed]

Stop asking him what he thinks you should listen to. You're self-contradicting.

[AirRick101]

Stop asking him what he thinks you should listen to. You're self-contradicting. actually, that is true, haha. you ARE asking other people what you should listen to, Timothy Paradox. it just so happens you were slightly offended when dylanshmai referred to jazz as a higher form of music. stay centered, my friend, don't be swayed by such comments.

[dylanshmai]

no no no. trance=you, jazz=me is completely ignorant. I could say me=trance, you=jazz just as easily. Its about coming to a realization that has been waiting a long time. as far as marketing goes, jazz knows NOTHING about it because the people performing it are completely entranced within the music itself that its the only thing worth living for (that "feeling"). heck, most jazz bands either split up and continue playing jazz till the day they die or continue playing with each other till the day they die. Trance is relatively new, but marketing plays a huge roll and you have to be smart about it in order to be in the business. Most trance artists do what they do for money. No wonder you see many trance artists drop out like flies never to come back again. I saw Return To Forever last year. 30 years after they first came together and with so much more talent in their bag. I've been to raves, everyone was on ecstasy, so I took some too, but ended up just sitting around while people continually danced the same generic stuff to the same generic music. There was no out side the box or inventive dancing, just the freedom within their minds as they discovered "shit I am dancing like everyone else and among everyone else and I am accepted here at this moment". And then the journey inevitably took its next course of action to disagreements which led to the understanding that the freedom they felt at the dance was because they had never gotten close enough to actually evolve or grow and adapt to the others differences. and so the circles began, and thats where jazz got its strength (actually from the blues, but blues-pop-rock-trance same thing really).

[suttsman]

www.pandora.com Type in some artists you like, and it will find similar music. /thread

[Timothy Paradox]

actually, that is true, haha. you ARE asking other people what you should listen to, Timothy Paradox. it just so happens you were slightly offended when dylanshmai referred to jazz as a higher form of music. stay centered, my friend, don't be swayed by such comments. No I'm not. I told everybody what my fav music is so they could tell me about some songs I don't know yet.

[Timothy Paradox]

www.pandora.com Type in some artists you like, and it will find similar music. /thread This site is for people from the USA only.

[AirRick101]

No I'm not. I told everybody what my fav music is so they could tell me about some songs I don't know yet. Isn't "What kind of music should I listen to?" the name of this thread? As far as the English language is concerned, music embodies any song of any genre, and that's clearly what you are asking. If you were talking about trance the entire time, you should have named the thread "What other trance songs are good out there?" or "What other trance songs should I listen to?" Even your post itself wasn't very specific about what you were asking of people. You were only referring to the word "music."

[Kushna Mufeed]

No I'm not. I told everybody what my fav music is so they could tell me about some songs I don't know yet. You are still self-contradicting. The thread title specifically says "What kind of music I should listen to?" Not, "Tell me about music you like from these genres"

[dylanshmai]

Radiohead is a great transitioner from trance to jazz. I'm sure you've listened to Hail To The Thief, Kid A, and In Rainbows. and if you haven't, let me tell ya...THEY FLOAT!

[Timothy Paradox]

This is a conpiracy. I quit.

[Kushna Mufeed]

Good. You were so close to finding out about the connection between the Free Mason's, the New World Order and aliens. Glad we avoided that.

[dylanshmai]

hahaha. Hey, don't forget to check out Radiohead and Return To Forever and even the Pink Floyd!