Thread: Michael Jackson Announcement (This is it!)

I thought it was "it" a long time ago. It should have been. He is a freakazoid child molester now. Check out how awesome he used to be...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrPTDU40hO4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQG4xCeHlj0

My favorite is Beat It.

I love Michael Jackson. He is a good person and people misjudge him.

Originally Posted by Cowmaster94

I love Michael Jackson. He is a good person and people misjudge him.

Yes, after thinking about it really hard, molesting little boys is actually ok!

Eh...while I find Michael Jackson to be strange and creepy, I can't deny that his music was amazing.

Originally Posted by Fableflame

Yes, after thinking about it really hard, molesting little boys is actually ok!

Ok he is a LITTLE messed up LOL

but really, people need to forgive him and get on with their fucking lives

They never proved he molested anyone. That isn't to say that he didn't, but we don't know.

Originally Posted by Black_Eagle

They never proved he molested anyone. That isn't to say that he didn't, but we don't know.

This is true we don't know, and may never know for sure, but to just speculate the worse is just wrong. His music and his performance is still legendary and there will not be another to ever do what he has done. For those that come close to his fame are only duplicating from him.

I guess that's life because Michael Jackson didn't actually create most of the performance styles that has made him a megastar. He copied from the likes of James Brown, Fred Astaire and Jackie Wilson. On another note. His voice and his creativity of music is all him and he has a natural gift for song.

Originally Posted by Switch

This is true we don't know, and may never know for sure, but to just speculate the worse is just wrong.

It's not just a speculation. I guess there is some microscopic WTF chance that he is not a child molester, but I am pretty sure he is. I don't know about his spend the night party habits now that he has been shredded in the media, but I will tell you what he used to do.

Michael had kids spend the night at his house all the time. He had no kids of his own, and he was the only adult in the house when he had kids spend the night. That sends up a pretty big red flag. He admitted on camera that he let kids sleep in his bed. He said there is "nothing more loving" than sharing your bed with somebody. While he was saying it on camera, he was sitting next to a little kid, and they were holding hands couple style, with fingers between fingers. When I saw that interview, I was almost completely convinced Michael had been molesting that kid. Guess what... That is the kid whose mother pressed criminal charges against him for molesting her kid. She was not the first to call him out. In the 90's, a different mother sued Michael for molesting her kid. Michael settled with her out of court and did not put up a fight. He also had a secret children's bedroom behind his stairs. A secret button opened a wall to it. He also allegedly put alcohol in kids' drinks.

What do you make of all of that? Imagine a grown man on your block doing all of that stuff. Wouldn't you be pretty convinced that he is a child molester?

I don't think he should be doing this comeback tour thing, but if I could then I'd definitely see him. Strange that he's not doing it in the States...

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

What do you make of all of that? Imagine a grown man on your block doing all of that stuff. Wouldn't you be pretty convinced that he is a child molester?

Comparing MJ to some random pervert on the block is two totally different things. We know Mike is strange and quite different. I don't think we could even possibly begin to understand his childhood especially considering there is no other celebrities that grew up with the fame and world wide recognition that this man has, even as an adult no one in this world is more recognizable than he. He's been exposed to that type of stuff all his life. What do you make of that?? I give him the benefit of the doubt. Yes it's not right fr a grown man to share his bed with little children but I don't think MJ looks at himself as a grown man. I think mentally he's still a kid at heart. I don't condone his actions but I don't think he's a molestor, I think people want money from him, especially since they knew he had plenty of it back then. Thats just my opinion.

Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

I don't think he should be doing this comeback tour thing, but if I could then I'd definitely see him. Strange that he's not doing it in the States...

I think he needs the money really bad. They say for a 10 day concert he could make $500,000 easy. Wish I could make that kind of money in a week.

Just another toilet paper fad.

This one a weirdo from hell.

As for the whole sleeping in the same bed with the kids thing, it is possible that he had innocent intentions. I mean think about the parents who molest their own children, but no one suspects them because somehow being of the same blood gives them some kind of immunity.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

He admitted on camera that he let kids sleep in his bed.

Didn't he say that he slept somewhere else when they slept in his bed? Like he was on the couch or something.

But yea......... I think the chances are beyond slim that he didn't bang those boys.

Originally Posted by Rakjavik

Didn't he say that he slept somewhere else when they slept in his bed? Like he was on the couch or something.

He ended up saying that, but I don't think that was his original point. I could have sworn he used the word "share". Maybe he meant "take turns" when he said "share". Then how is it sharing unless the kid sleeps on the floor sometimes? He made them do that? And what is so "most loving" about letting somebody sleep in your bed when you are not in it too? It's all a bunch of pedophile bullshit if you ask me. If he had kids spend the night at his house with him when they were not relatives and were not friends of his own kids, put alcohol in their drinks, held hands with them couple style, had a hidden children's room, "shared" his bed with them, and wasn't molesting them, then maybe Charlie Sheen was going to Heidi Fleiss's brothel and just playing cards with the prostitutes.

Originally Posted by Ne-yo

Comparing MJ to some random pervert on the block is two totally different things. We know Mike is strange and quite different. I don't think we could even possibly begin to understand his childhood especially considering there is no other celebrities that grew up with the fame and world wide recognition that this man has, even as an adult no one in this world is more recognizable than he. He's been exposed to that type of stuff all his life. What do you make of that?? I give him the benefit of the doubt. Yes it's not right fr a grown man to share his bed with little children but I don't think MJ looks at himself as a grown man. I think mentally he's still a kid at heart. I don't condone his actions but I don't think he's a molestor, I think people want money from him, especially since they knew he had plenty of it back then. Thats just my opinion.

Lol. Nice hypothesis.

Personally, I don't believe Michael Jackson ever sexually molested any child (and I speak from the perspective of someone who is violently opposed to sex offenders). I think the media - and some children's parents who want a piece of his multi-billion dollar empire - have preyed upon the public's disdain and fear for sex offenders, and really, how hard is it to paint an admittedly loopy celebrity with an unusual love for children as an untrustworthy freak?

I think he's a guy who was robbed of his childhood and, sure, became a bit mentally disturbed over it. I think he loves children to a degree that society just doesn't understand, but when judging all things considered I've never really convicted him of the things he's been accused of. Sure, I may be wrong (and I definitely wouldn't be one of the parents who let their children stay the night with some 30 year old man), but I don't think he ever did what people assume he did.

That being said, I don't care if he retires or not, his music is and has always been legendary. He's arguably the greatest performer ever, and an inspiration to singers and dancers the world over. As far as I'm concerned, I would support his music until well after he's broken a geriatric hip trying to moonwalk.

I don't know. On one hand if nothing was ever proven then it's possible the mothers are greedy people. But that secret room thing doesnt help his credibility.

Anyways how dare you people forget thriller! That guy is definetly talented.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtyJbIOZjS8

And oh yeah, the grown man down the street who gives alcohol to non-relative little boys sleeping in his bed did this to himself...

He's like a black and white cookie when you look at those pictures together :3
Don't we have one of those?

Statistically though, aren't children molested more often by relatives? So technically it'd be safer to leave your kid with a stranger.

Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

Statistically though, aren't children molested more often by relatives? So technically it'd be safer to leave your kid with a stranger.

LOL. Way to raise the paranoia on people Mes.

That being said, I don't care if he retires or not, his music is and has always been legendary.

Oneironaut, I think you are letting your love for his music taint the obvious. "Unusual" love for children is an understatement. Nambla members are less obvious then this guy.

Originally Posted by Rakjavik

Oneironaut, I think you are letting your love for his music taint the obvious. "Unusual" love for children is an understatement. Nambla members are less obvious then this guy.

Maybe I am. I have no problem with admitting that. But how "obvious" is it, really? I, apparently unlike many, understand that there is no precedent for someone like him. People are condemning him because they are comparing him to any other person that might exhibit his "child-loving" frame of mind. I think it's neither fair nor realistic (as with UM's posting of what "he did to himself" as if that somehow has anything to do with him being more likely to be a child molester because of what he's done to alter his own appearance). IF he is innocent, it would make sense, given the context of the fucked up lack of a childhood he experienced. I don't think there is a single person here, who's considering it rationally, that can dispute that. If he's guilty, it would also make sense, and I'm definitely not going to dispute that, either. But is it conclusive? I don't believe it is.

Even those of us who aren't childhood superstars have a tendency to be immature, if we haven't experienced very much of the societal conditioning that comes with growing up in the public. Imagine if you were a megastar from childhood (on a level that really no other person that I can think of has been). He's performed for the camera, and acted in ways he was directed, but he's never actually had a chance to "grow up," now has he? When it comes to growing old and transitioning from childish fads and impulses, has he ever really had that experience? I don't know that he has. He has been performing, non-stop, at superstar status, since The Jackson 5 (he was 5 years old).

On the surface, it may simply seem like I'm just pardoning him because I like his music, but I do understand that there is a lot more context than people seem to want to acknowledge.

To me, the "logic" behind the accusations rings much more hollow - though because of our (society's) own conditioning, it seems to be all that matters.

Don't get me wrong; I think he's a wack job. I'd never even try to argue with that. I think his infatuation with children is unhealthy and disturbing, for a man of his age. I just have no real reason to believe that it's sexual, other than relying on the word of the parents who are trying to sue him (which I then have to compare to all of the underhanded things that the public does to get money - like the woman who tried to sue McDonalds for millions because she put her coffee on her car dashboard and it spilled in her lap).

But hey, no reason to drag out too much of a debate on it. None of us really know for sure what he has or hasn't done.

I wish people would stop calling MJ a child molestor until there is actual proof. Is the story about adults telling their children to lie to gain millions from a very wealthy man unlikely? That, I think, outbalances the possible lies that were told to the public. Believing in such a story without any evidence but just media hype and using his conditioned appearance as a bonus would be gullible.

Also, what ever happened to the kid that accused Micheal? Wasn't he dying or something? Or supposed to? Eh I don't know.

@Oneironaut I don't think there is anything about a 30+ year old man having in interest in helping children. There are many many people who do so. Micheal got dirty looks and labeling all of a sudden when the accusations started, with only his distorted appearance and the mass hysterical of sickening speculations to make it worse.

I personally think you said that so the society based readers would accept your opinion more by defending Micheal, but not too much. Usually a peer thing...though I could be wrong

Also just because he's very different doesn't make it exact to call him a whack job. He could very well say that to us. Eh.. its all subjective hoo ha anyways, whatever.



Anyways, Micheal could have done it or not , either way I don't care. I, myself, tend not get caught up in other people's lives and also don't see how the importance of this event could affect mine.