for years i have been fascinated with the Jungian personality model (similar to MBTI) and i am just curious of the make up of the dreamviews community. it seems to be pretty accurate....anywho, thanks!!
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for years i have been fascinated with the Jungian personality model (similar to MBTI) and i am just curious of the make up of the dreamviews community. it seems to be pretty accurate....anywho, thanks!!
http://www.dreamviews.com/f48/what-y...ty-type-41911/
http://www.dreamviews.com/f16/personality-test-3915/
http://www.dreamviews.com/f16/what-y...ty-type-57594/
http://www.dreamviews.com/f11/mbti-type-9659/
http://www.dreamviews.com/f16/what-s...ti-type-35194/
http://www.dreamviews.com/f16/myers-...results-56606/
http://www.dreamviews.com/f21/has-an...erament-73064/
http://www.dreamviews.com/f16/whats-...y-type-108973/
^That's the most recent one, poopman.
As I explained on the last one, I'm an INTP and am hence superior to everyone that isn't an INTP because when they sent people back in time to have Darwin and Einstein take the test, they were INTPs too. Hence I'm like Einstein and Darwin and we my conclude that I'm also one of the greatest geniuses to ever live.
The rest of you suck (unless you're an INTP too in which case, you are also one of the greatest geniuses to ever have lived).
EDIT:
Also, @poopman. You should be glad that I'm not a mod because if I was, I would ban you from posting anywhere except in senseless banter. Just saying...
You are obviously intelligent and should know that what you're saying is only somewhat (arguably) true generally, and that the certainty you're preaching it with is complete bs. It seems you just like to say things that will bother people to see their reactions (ie. troll in a slightly more intelligent way than most). Although I fail to see why you find it entertaining.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilosopherStoned
INTP
but seriously Im not a big fan of my personality being confined to this label. Im honestly different people from one day to the next.
How is it only somewhat true that along with Einstein and Darwin, I and all other INTPs are among the two greatest geniuses to ever live?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dianeva
And also, often times, my "trolling" is making a point. That is, what I am saying is either true as I perceive it, or complete BS with a point to it. I challenge you to go call me out on trolling some place where you think that the case is otherwise.
By somehwat true I meant it may be true in general that geniuses tend to be INTPs. But youre assertion that the general case is true in all cases and that everyone else is inferior is obviously trol..(oh, I finally get your avatar).Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilosopherStoned
Nope. I'm not a troll. I am a smartass. Or a dumbass depending on your perspective. I got banned, unfairly, for trolling and so, being a smartass, I decided to rock a troll avatar. I'm probably going to switch back to my old one soon. If you ever spend any time on the Island, which I doubt, you'll get my user title too.
The point here is that these tests fulfill our primary need to feel superior to other people. So because they went back in time and tested Einstein and Darwin, all of us INTPs get to feel superior to people. As I said on the other thread, you'll have to find your own reason to feel superior to other people because "we come up with all the good ideas" is already taken.
I'm pretty sure Einstein and Darwin were declared INTPs because their personalities (or at least people's perception of those personalities) closest fit the description of an INTP.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilosopherStoned
Tbh, I lol'd @ "But you have boobs, right?" :PQuote:
Originally Posted by PhilosopherStoned
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You smart folk are so intimidating; whenever I post in Extended Discussion, I ready myself for blowback. :[
Answered on the thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinGill
Okay, I get that idea from most of your posts. But from many it honestly seems to me that you're trying to evoke a particular reaction from someone because it entertains you for whatever reason, like the "But you have boobs, right?" post, and in that same thread if I'm remembering correctly, your proposal that Raspberry cooks and cleans for you. I got the feeling you were trying to give her negative attention because she had just been getting so much positive attention, ultimately because it entertained you, with some more detail my mind made up which is pointless to say because I’m likely wrong about the whole thing. There are other examples, but I might be wrong about it all. In my experience I've been terrible and judging these types of things about people.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilosopherStoned
So with this, which one is it? Do you really think what you said or are you mocking those people who use these tests to feel superior?
Dianeva, PhilosopherStoned says these things as a sort of parody in order to point out the flaws in certain modes of thinking. I, for one, find his postings to be quite delightful. I suppose I can't expect you to understand that though. After all, you're not an INTP.
I realize he often tries to make a point, but he tends to choose to do it in ways that are likely to bother people. As I've said before on the other thread, those tests are flawed or made for people whose personality traits are more easily identifiable than mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Black_Eagle
Because you're special, right?
It's a fact that I had trouble answering a lot of the questions because the real answer is too complicated. In many cases I could have chosen anywhere from the lowest to the highest radio box depending on what aspect of my life I was considering. It's also a fact that I don't see many other people making the same complaints (there were a few after I made my post in that other thread). Maybe I am different from the majority, maybe my personality traits are more complicated than most people's, but whether or not I feel 'special' because of it is irrelevant to whether or not it's true. Anyway, I think it's also pretty likely that the tests themselves are flawed and that most people just checked the first box that seemed right to them before realizing or caring that it might be more complicated.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Roxxor
Admit it- you think you're better than everyone else!
Perhaps the tests don't NEED such complex answers, because any complex response you could give would be reduced to simpler thought processes, which make up your personality. So while you may have felt that you needed to write out an intimate response to any of the questions, you would not have needed to as the range of personality types are limited anyway and these tests are only capable of giving you rough percentages on each spectrum of your personality, so the possible answers for each question can be condensed into a few options.
If I related mostly to one answer, and the real answer was a bit more complicated, that would make sense. This is a perfect example, if you were to ask "do you think you're better than everyone else?" the answer would be complicated. In one sense, I strongly do think that. In another, I strongly believe the opposite. So I'd choose a box near the middle, but that wouldn't represent my situation well because the middle box is more for people who are neutral about the question and don't have much of an opinion on it. It was situations like that I kept running into.
In general, those tests I'm sure do highlight personality tendencies. I'm not sayng they're complete failures. I'm definitely introverted, and it caught that.
I'm an INTJ. Is anyone here really that surprised?
I had you pegged for an ESFP.
Only that someone as awesome as you is so inferior.Quote:
Originally Posted by Photolysis
Ah well, I should at least get bonus points for having some INTP leanings. In fact, I demand said bonus points.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilosopherStoned
Sure, they're not perfect, but you wouldn't expect that when you try and distil something as varied as human personality into 16 categories. However, I found the test to be extremely useful because I found that, hey, there's a whole bunch of people who think in an almost identical way to myself, which was a pretty profound discovery. Being able to point friends and family to the INTJ page on wikipedia is also very helpful, because most don't understand my thought processes and the way I view the world, as they're completely different from the way everyone else I know. Not to mention that the test also legitimises this position somewhat.Quote:
As I've said before on the other thread, those tests are flawed or made for people whose personality traits are more easily identifiable than mine.
Hi,
I'm an INFP who knows how to ENFP a little when the situation really demands it, I can talk the hind leg of a donkey, but my internal world is still more comfy :)
You should probably work on your indecisiveness then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dianeva
Intp
;-)
I took it again today and it gave me INTJ.
I never thought of myself as a that, but as a this--sad as it is.
INFP, tested that way a few times now. Also a number 9 on the Enneagram of Personality (hence the name :P)
What a coincidence. That's the name I made up for my character's custom class in Oblivion.
What a load of ints..
I see myself more of a long or a double..
Also: Myers-Briggs Type Indicator - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia :wink:
I am an ENTP. Sharing a personality type with Gary Gygax and Steve Jackson, I am obviously better than the rest of you sods.
Ok, let's settle this once and for all with the PhilosopherStoned Scale of Awesomeness, The PSSA!
I, N, T, and P each get you 25 points.
E, S, F, J each lose you 75 points.
So, INTP = 100 points.
ENTP, INTJ, etc get you zero points.
ESTP would get you -100 points.
Then add 300 to that and divide by 400 to normalize between 0 and 1.
So I'm a full 1 of awesomeness.
Spockman and Photolysis are only 3/4's of awesomeness.
This creates a definitive and objective scale of awesomeness.
The maths checks out. Darn.
But the PhilosopherStoned Scale of Awesomeness, the PSSA itself, is only 43% awesomeness.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilosopherStoned
I would expect as much from someone that's only 3/4 awesome.
INFP. I lose. :[
Not necessarily. You're still 3/4 awesome. That's better than a lot of people! Chin up lad. Your glass is only 1/4 empty.
http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile...556_3050_n.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by PhilosopherStoned
The higher percentage of Introverts seems to make sense, being dreamers and whatnot.
Introverted (I) 54.29% Extroverted (E) 45.71%
Intuitive (N) 60.98% Sensing (S) 39.02%
Thinking (T) 51.52% Feeling (F) 48.48%
Perceiving (P) 55.88% Judging (J) 44.12%
Your type is: INTP
INTP - "Architect". Greatest precision in thought and language. Can readily discern contradictions and inconsistencies. The world exists primarily to be understood. 3.3% of total population.
Spoiler for WTF http://forums.mydigitallife.info/vb4...someSmiley.png:
Since this thread is still going on I'll report that I'm a long-time INTJ ("the scientist"). But while my N, T, and J have been consistently pronounced, it seems that my I has been drifting slowly toward E over the past several years, making me increasingly close to being ENTJ ("the executive"). But thankfully not quite there yet (it seems a strange characterization to me).
Say what you will about the MBTI -- and believe me, it's definitely been said -- but at the very least it appears to have good test-retest reliability.
Just took it and got ISTJ, or INTJ, since I got 50-50 on sensing and intuitive.
Introverted (I) 81.82% Extroverted (E) 18.18%
Sensing (S) 50% Intuitive (N) 50%
Thinking (T) 54.05% Feeling (F) 45.95%
Judging (J) 57.58% Perceiving (P) 42.42%
ISTJ - "Trustee". Decisiveness in practical affairs. Guardian of time- honored institutions. Dependable. 11.6% of total population.
INTJ - "Scientist". Most self-confident and pragmatic of all the types. Decisions come very easily. A builder of systems and the applier of theoretical models. 2.1% of total population.
ISFJ, but sometimes when I take different ones I am a INFJ but usually it is ISFJ.
I am the Guardian/Protector
Not Guardian of Memory!Quote:
Originally Posted by erible
I just checked xD it was GuardianQuote:
Originally Posted by Dianeva
Extroverted (E) 57.58% Introverted (I) 42.42%
Sensing (S) 52.63% Intuitive (N) 47.37%
Thinking (T) 56.76% Feeling (F) 43.24%
Judging (J) 59.38% Perceiving (P) 40.63%
Your type is: ESTJ
ESTJ - "Administrator". Much in touch with the external environment. Very responsible. Pillar of strength. 8.7% of total population.
I'm an INFJ.
100% introspective, and Feeling/Thinking is basically 50/50.
Of the people I've heard talk about the Myers-Brigg, I have heard tell many times by different types of people they think INTJs are most likely to be the most intelligent of the types. Make of that what you will, it is an observation I have heard more then once. INTP is supposed to be very intelligent, as well. I wonder what it is about introverts. Maybe they are more self-reliant and so put more faith in their own brain?Quote:
Originally Posted by DuB
Perhaps they spend less time lallygagging with people and more time cultivating their knowledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by spockman
I took it again and I'm INTJ again.
Introverted (I) 86.67% Extroverted (E) 13.33%
Intuitive (N) 54.55% Sensing (S) 45.45%
Thinking (T) 58.97% Feeling (F) 41.03%
Judging (J) 61.29% Perceiving (P) 38.71%
But again I'm horrified by how terrible a lot of the questions are, so I don't give these much credit. I think I perceive more than I judge. What questions gave the test the idea that I'm more judgmental than perceptive? Or maybe it means something different. And why did I get only 86.67% for introverted? I answered definitely yes to every question to do with social skills. Would it be possible to get 100%?
I took another one and got this, INTJ again:
Personality test based on Jung and Briggs Myers typology
Introverted 95%
Intuitive 62%
Thinking 25%
Judging 22%
I guess I'm almost definitely INTJ. I'd like to know what the J and P really mean though, which questions influence them.
I think I got something like 100% introverted on that particular test, but it's partly because you have to pick an answer when the real world is more complicated (as you mention earlier on).
As far as I know, it's questions like "Are you late for appointments?"" or "Do you like planning things in advance?" that determine between INTJ and INTP. For Js, being on time and planning is important, not so much so for Ps.
I don't think the Jungian types are very accurate. I don't put any stock in them. I have taken the test before in my psych class, though, and I got INTP. I don't really agree with the descriptions, though, so whatever. Call me a SAVY type.
I am actually an INFJ, I just took a way in depth test from on of my sisters college coarses and this was it
I am under "idealist" and am the "counselor"
*cough* Gandhi was in INFJ
I feel proud.
Classic INTP to resent being classified.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
Savy, the description at the end of the test I think you took isn't very good. (Although the test itself seems fairly solid.) Here is a better definition of an INTP. I did not write it.
INTP Definition of Personality Equals “Abstraction + Complex Thoughts”
The definition of personality for the INTP includes the qualities of analysis, logic, creativity, intuition.
You may have come here from the MBTI “words to describe personality” page and you know or suspicion that your personality type is Introverted with Intuition, Thinking and Perception, because you have taken the Myers-Briggs personality assessment test. Or you may be here because someone you care about is this type. That being the case you can discover many qualities, traits or characteristics describing this personality type on this page
BASICS
I’m going to present INTP qualities in a list format because I have found reading a paragraph when you are digging for some important, quick information, can be difficult, well it can be irritating! So let us take a look at a list of personality traits for this type. This type:
*Is naturally adaptable, flexible with their world
*Is quietly and very analytically watching everything
*Believes that things must and will make sense
*Is future oriented may struggle with in-the-moment emotional thinking
*Is looking for the underlying principles in everything
*Really enjoys solving complex problems
*Is naturally skeptical and critical
*Will question absolutely everything
*Highly values exactness and preciseness in everything
*Is typically attracted to the abstract and symbolic
*Usually has dramatic powers of concentration with which they can develop deep levels of understanding
Now do you see yourself/someone else in the above basic list of personality traits??
What we really begin to see with personality type is emerging patterns of behaving and using our brains. The INTP way is natural, instinctive, beautiful, created to be this way. Let us continue.
Mottos Are Fun
For the INTP these mottos or things to put on their battle flag might be: “Ingenious Innovators”, “Ingenious Problem Solvers”, “Symbols Are Real”, to name a few.
Let us make another list of personality traits, INTPs:
*Are reasoning and making decisions with logic and conceptual analysis
*Are supremely curious
*Will have difficulty (sometimes great difficulty) expressing emotion, feeling
*Are constantly “playing” with “mental” models…all the time
*Will typically be more non-traditional in most things
*Respect competence, intelligence
*Strongly value autonomy”
Now, my friend, the INTP not only behaves in the above manner…THEY NATURALLY EXPECT EVERYONE ELSE TO DO THE SAME!!
So, what happens when they see that many others do not behave that way?? (only 5-6% of America’s population is this type) Answer: Different levels of stress, confusion, irritation, etc.; typically nothing this type can’t handle. So, this is a NATURAL reaction on the part of this type, they are not doing anything wrong.
More Stuff The INTP:
*Typically values concepts and ideas more than people
*In relationships, they frequently miss the more interpersonal nuance, reality
*In relationships, they appear reserved and impersonal
*In relationships, they can be insensitive to the emotional needs of others
*In relationships, they will give people a wide degree of leeway
*In relationships, they are flexible and can become irritated with too much routine, rules, and detail
*Is not known for a controlling attitude
Under Stress The INTP:
*May become even less Introverted and more Extraverted, and verbally “attack”
*May feel overwhelmed and misunderstood
*Typically feels confused when faced with illogical behavior
*May stay too long in relationships that are stressful
*May explode with out of proportion expressions of emotion
If this type is you, wonderful, perhaps you now have a better understanding of yourself, and perhaps you can use that increased understanding in many positive ways.
If you see someone else as this type but not you, please pay attention to the differences between your personality and the INTP. Try to see that your type and this type are natural and just fine! Look for the positive differences, the strengths this type brings to your type. Celebrate that because it cannot be changed and can add wonderful diversity and truth to your life!!
Yes, some of those match me, but not all or even most. How can we expect human beings to fall under 16 categories?
I think we're more complex that. At least, I really hope so.
I'd say we are, but, sadly, most people follow the bandwagon. It's a choice of course, but in the end, even if we ourselves deep inside are different, but our actions are the same, we will be placed into a classification.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
INFP :D I like that. It describes me well.
INTP
According to every test I've done.
I'm an intj also....
Philosopherstoned.... You are the most ignorant person here because you think you are better than everyone. You may be able to tell someone how to do something but the truth is you couldn't do it yourself. What good is smarts if you don't know how to use them.If the world was all intps there would be a bunch of people with thumbs in there ass with good ideas. As for einstine, you are not him. Intps just want to start a debate and your always right huh. This makes you intolerable to most human beings. Nobody likes a know-it-all. Pull your head from your ass, your just another person.
I just hate people who think they are god. We are all the same. It's people like that who destroy humanity.
Nobody? well you just seem to know it all dont ya?:shadewink:Quote:
Originally Posted by WhatsReal
Just speaking my mind.... I guess i cant speak for EVERYONE. Your right, im sure plenty of people love conversations that always end in them being wrong. If you missed the point of my first post i can rephrase it for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by stormcrow
Im done with this conversations. The guy has a god complex and it pissed me off, bottom line.
I love conversations that end in me being wrong, it means I learned something.
Yes you can rephrase it if you like.
:facepalm:Quote:
Originally Posted by WhatsReal
Oh dear. 2 points for irony, bottom line. Glad we could have a rational chat, I sure learned alot.
Quote:
Originally Posted by stormcrow
Your INTP.... my fucking point exactly ^ You want everything to be a debate and your always right.... im not wasting my time..... your a god damn genius, what was i thinking.
but that's the opposite of what he said. are you saying he's lying because he's an INTP?Quote:
Originally Posted by WhatsReal
I'm fairly certain you turned this into a "debate" if you want to call it that. Ive been joking around with you in all my posts and you have construed me as being hostile because you cant stand contradiction and always need to be right (see I can do it too ;))
I think we have gotten off on the wrong foot here. I don't always need to be right and will readily admit it when I'm wrong. But please don't assume you know me or my motivations simply because I happened to score INTP on a test, I resent that just a wee bit.
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Originally Posted by stormcrow
http://cdn1.knowyourmeme.com/i/000/1...jpg?1298831215
Indeed.
See: "why are we so obsessed with proving other people wrong and making ourselves look good?"
we are self centered, every last one of us.
You cannot reasonably assert that every other human being feels the same way as you do about all things.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhatsReal
Not all of us are self centered.
Lawlwut
I the I don't even pfft what?
:eek:
OkQuote:
Originally Posted by JussiKala
You don't believe that, do you? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by WhatsReal
No I don't.... Look at the world.
I personally believe we think about ourselves more than other people.
Look at your day, from the time you wake untill the time you sleep. Do you think about what your plans are most of the time or do you think about everyone else and what they are doing most of the time. It's human nature to think more about yourself in order to survive and achieve goals
That is my own personal thought, sorry to include everyone.
Nah it's fine, I actually agree. If you can't look after yourself how can you look after other people, right? Even things you think you're doing for other people, there's an aspect of self-importance thrown in there too. Maybe satisfaction that you're helping someone :)Quote:
Originally Posted by WhatsReal
But I don't think that makes everyone selfish. I don't actually know many people who are totally selfish. I prefer to avoid them...
Perhaps we should start a new thread on selfishness/altruism? Do humans always act in their own self-interest? Is there such thing as altruism or do we help others just to help ourselves by extension. The dreamviews objectivists would probably get a kick out of this thread, any takers?
Do it...Quote:
Originally Posted by stormcrow
I think it would be a good thread, though I doubt I'd get involved. Well, maybe. Probably not. I'm not much of a debater.Quote:
Originally Posted by stormcrow
I would say I spend about 75% of the time I have for thinking without interacting with other people thinking about worldly issues, poverty, oppression, injustice, etc. Many people project their own habits onto the rest of the world, believing that if they do it, it must mean everyone does. This is rarely or possibly even never the actual case.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhatsReal
Intj.
I've been going through a lot lately (that's why I haven't been on much) and feel like I'm changing. I took the test again and I was still INTJ but only 1 single point on the J side this time, so I'm about half INTP now. I still think the tests are bullshit.