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I felt the same way about occupy Toledo. But there was at least one intelligent person there. It wasn't really that bad but people there still didn't seem to know what they were there about. But I think these protests are still good. At least people are getting together, it's a start.
I'd rather someone be apart of the movement but not know why they're there than someone insult the movement as a whole because they dont know why its there
Dude, I hope you are not accusing me of an attempt to troll this thread because of my image, if so, you're clearly mistaken.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninja
Anyway..
I was sent an email from a devildog who is a good friend of mine from the sandbox (back in the day). They've initiated a Occupy Marines movement that is receiving support from active personnel overseas. The numbers of vets are currently small, however, this should increase by the years end once active members arrive home.
I like the execution of this idea and it shows a great sense of appreciation for those in uniform actually doing their jobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by OccupyMarines
No, I'm just saying that the picture you posted is a meme, memes are most popular among the internet generation.
Yea, but you said internet and trolls. So I was just confirming that you were not intentionally trying to single me out as an attempt to troll.
Right, I understand that and I also understand that you two are very tight with one another. Ninja insinuated that the image was an attempt to troll. I just wanted to make it clear that I wasn't trolling by posting the image. So since it's clear I'll leave it to rest now.
Occupy Wall Street is one giant troll...
I remember seeing those stats from googles reports a couple of years ago. There is a section on Google where you can see where the requests have come from. I don't know why they comply with most of the requests for info, and only 27% of the requests for removal. Is there some law stating they have to?
That would be hypocritical considering the U.S gov doesn't have to give out information under the FOIA. They want it all but don't want to give anything back.
I'm a little unsure about how to feel about Oakland. On one hand, they're saying the police only went ballistic after people were throwing bottles at them. If that's true, I'm a little sad because this whole thing seems to be predicated (to some) on the idea of this staying non-violent. After all the hard work they've done in NY to keep the image clean, the aggression strictly 1-directional... they even cleaned the shit out of the park when it became an issue. With this spreading into so many cities, it's kind of dumb to think everyone would follow the shining example, especially in Oakland, lol.
But on the other hand, fuck all that. The cops fractured a dude's skull, they're using flash-bangs, rubber bullets, etc,.... there's that clip where the one dude is knocked out cold on the street, possibly seriously injured, a crowd gathers around to help him, and the fucking cop SEES all this (the injured guy was right in front of the line of cops before the crowd came) and throws a gas canister right in the middle of the crowd he DAMN WELL KNOWS is there to render aid to an badly injured person... what the fuck!!
So all this is in response to some people allegedly throwing bottles, and in all likely hood everyone who was actually assaulted by the police were being peaceful, out exercising their first amendment rights (which is the only "permit" they should need). All this "collateral damage" should start to seem familiar to anyone who's been paying attention to Iraq. Except each individual protester doesn't represent a potential death threat.
I think this deserves to go here, possible I think it deserves a new thread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoTokM2uCVU&feature=feedbul
This guy needs way more views too. I've been watching him for quite a while and he's never got more than a few thousand.
I watched the oakland videos the night that went down. In those videos I didn't see any violent protesters :/ .But I did hear a lot of "OUR STREET! OUR STREET!". Would you know where the claims of violent protesters are coming from?
I find it shocking that this is happening here in America, and even more shocking that the average American has no idea! Occupy needs online social media. I want to find videos of all the cities and share them. If we don't make ourselves aware of whats going on, who will?
I agree, they need one site, not sure if there is one, with all the police brutality videos. And just spread that as much as possible.
I've been posting things to my facebook wall, but only one person out of like 90 or something I have on there actually cares.
:wtf: They have several. Youtube, twitter, Facebook. Almost all of the coverage of the Occupy movement has come from viral videos.
Anonymous attacked Oakland yesterday. Looks like they broke into their database, stole a bunch of contact info, then crashed their site. Here is some of the contact info that they stole oakland police #info - Pastebin.com and seems there is more to come. There is a $1000 reward for the name of the office who shot the veteran, probably not going to happen though, since in the video, I can't even tell who took the shot or who threw the bombs at the people who went to help him :(
Mass releasing private details of police offers... what a fucking stupid thing to do.
Look at the names. They are the senior officers, ie the ones who would have given the orders to arm the police with weapons to assault a peaceful demonstration. Everyone knows they will not be dealt with by their own police department. When public officials do wrong, and their superiors won't address it, it's up to the public to retaliate. The police should know that and remember that before shooting unarmed peaceful protesters with rubber bullets and flash bombing people who rush to help someone they hurt. They've been warned about that misconduct at these protests will be met with retaliation from the public.
They haven't released any info on the low level people who were just following orders, they released the info on the people who gave the orders. Seems fair to me. The only blue collar cop who needs to be exposed is the one who took the shot.
There is something wrong with you, ninja. You're one of the most negative people I've come across, and I genuinely feel sorry for you. You're? warped sense of justice is pathetic, and I'm shocked no one here has told you this.
I don't like/dislike you, I just don't understand why your constant need for attention has to come with such a vile/dirty aura attached to it. Get laid, bud. :)
Huh? I think that throwing flash bombs at people rushing to the aid of someone injured is not just, you find that warped? I know that the police investigation will be a joke and the worst that will happen to a cop is missing a few vacation days and think it's up to the tax payers they are supposed to be protecting to call them on it. I'm quiet sure the only people who would find that warped have something wrong with their sense of society.
I'm quiet the opposite of negative, come talk to us sometime and see. If you only interact with me in ED, then you only see a debating me, because that's what this forum is meant for. And I get laid plenty, kthnx :P