I'm a rational and forgiving person, so I'll be more polite than you perhaps deserve: please crawl into your own anal cavity and die. |
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Whilst the system of segregation was not perfect, would nanyone here agree that we were all better off (blacks aswell, if not moreso than whites) under segregation? Multiracial communities are fertile soil for unnessecery racial tension. Pre segregation crime rates, on both balck and whites sides were much lower, both black and white schools were better performing and more disciplines, and today in most multi-racial societies, voulentary self segregation exists to a large degree anyway. The disadvantages seemed trivial, heck if segregation was returned, I would voulentarily sit at the back of the bus. |
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I'm a rational and forgiving person, so I'll be more polite than you perhaps deserve: please crawl into your own anal cavity and die. |
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What? It's not as if I hate blacks or anything, I even said It was wrong that the services for blacks were sub-standard, but if that was resolved, whats the problem? Many black and whites alike thought that the US was better off under segregation, so I don't really see what the big deal is, do you have any arguments to put forward against my point, or can you not rise above petty insults? |
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Most modern 'racial' problems isn't really about race but about economics. Moving people around doesn't really do anything to resolve the real issues. |
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I've lived in multi-ethnic cities my whole life and I've never encountered racism or seen racism of any kind in these mixed cities. Living in a city filled with minorities, minorities took positions on all levels of the economic food-chain. What racial tension? |
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No, xei, sometimes I make posts about opposition to gay marriage if you recall |
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Well most of the people i've spoken to about race issues (these are the people that I dont know their viewpoint prior to speaking to them) are in california, some in alabama, and some in montana, and virtually all agree with me to an extent. |
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Segregating races to prevent racism is like confining every individual to his/herself, to prevent their having confrontations with other people. It is a horrible, unnecessary, and ultimately futile idea. |
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Last edited by Oneironaut Zero; 12-17-2011 at 10:28 PM.
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Alabama = bible belt. Bible felt = fear of people who are different. Alabama also has a deep racist history that it hasn't wiped itself clean of. I would not be surprised if Alabama still had old communities that were still "black and white". |
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Your analogy with multiracial societies and families is irrelevant, because families are the foundation of Human society and have exists for time immemorial, whilst there is absolutly no need whatsoever for multiracial communities. I don't have the statistics right at hand It will take me a couple of hours to find them, But I will try to get it for tonight, as for factoring in economics, population growth etc, there's no need. Because I'm not arguing why this was the case, I'm simply arguing things were better under segregation, for whatever reason. |
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Your opinion about full family structure being the foundation of Human society is incorrect, because time has shown us - numerous times - that it does not take a biological mother and father to be a stable, productive member of society. And unless you're trying to paint the picture that segregation is a 'need', then the fact that there is no 'need' for multiracial culture really doesn't mean anything, in this context, neither. |
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All I am getting at here is that there seems to be some consensu that things were better off post-segregation, no question. I think best illustrated by the fact that Xei seemed disgusted that I had even propsoed the idea, without actually making an argument agsint my post. I personally know of 2 Black American women in their 70's who have said they thought things were better off under segregation. Now I know 2 is a very small sample size but thats the general impression I get from older americans, both black and white. |
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Here's an idea: let people freely associate (or disassociate) with whoever they want. Then we can avoid dumbass topics like this, where we discuss the merit of forcing people to disassociate. |
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It's not that I think there should never be any association between blacks and whites, merely separate schools, neigbhourhoods etc. |
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Haha, this is the 3rd time now that your post has been off topic, and merely a petty insult against me. Seeing as you haven't actually argued aginst my point, I assume that means you secretly agree with everything I say |
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People wont do what automatically? Self segregation? Are you aware that places such as Tower Hamelts in London, Manningham in Bradford, Sparkhill/Sparkbrook/Alum rock in Birmingham exist? Virtually every muti racial town in Europe has these segregated areas. How come every school /neighbourhood isn't 88% white then? Also, that's 4 posts in a row now, do you think you can manage post number 5 not to contain a petty insult? |
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Last edited by Thatperson; 12-18-2011 at 12:03 AM.
People have already explained that demographic reasons cause variations in race. As you've forgotten this so quickly I can only assume you have mental problems, which makes sense given that you're a 'ethnic nationalist'. If you think variation is down to self-segregation then you don't have any problems anyway, people are free to move to locations and schools if they want. But you do have problems, because it isn't anywhere near 100%, and you need to use force for it to occur. Which makes you either a disgusting person or a weak troll. |
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When you start a repulsive thread you can pretty much expect to be confronted. |
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Last edited by Thatperson; 12-18-2011 at 12:40 AM.
And you seem to have more and more trouble substantially backing that point. Saying that there is 'some consensus' about any one thing is like saying that there is 'some consensus' that cocaine is good, or 'some consensus' that sexual predation is acceptable. It, it itself, is not an argument. |
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You're either feeding a troll or trying to reason with somebody so incurably obstinate in his sad parochialism that he hasn't changed a single line after pages and pages of this stuff in the past. He already knows all this and he's already thrown it down the memory hole a hundred times before. I really don't see any purpose. |
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