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      The Erosion of Civil Liberty in America

      To any American that's been paying attention, I would imagine that it's obvious we are not living in the same "Land of the Free" that we have all grown accustomed to believing that we live in. We owe a large amount of that to the 'War on Terror'. In my opinion, the great War on Terror has done more for the abolishment of civil liberties than probably anything else I can think of, throughout my 30+ years on this Earth and in this country. There are countless examples of this (and more coming to pass, daily), so I thought that we might do good to include them all in the same place.

      From the NDAA; to known, warrantless drone executions; to money-laundering banks that are 'too big to fail' (and too big to jail), one would have to be blind to not at least be concerned that there could be ulterior motives in play for the circumvention of constitutional liberties that we've all, at some point, believed this country was based off of.

      Let's keep the list going. Post any 'new' (or as yet discussed) examples of the erosion of 'American Liberty' (in the name of National Security or otherwise) that you find, in this thread.

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      I'm not sure if listing more acts of tyranny is that helpful, especially considering how fucked up the ones you've already listed are. I'd rather talk about action.

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      The 4th Amendment no longer applies to automobiles. How convenient.

      Motor vehicle exception - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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      Quote Originally Posted by Original Poster View Post
      I'm not sure if listing more acts of tyranny is that helpful, especially considering how fucked up the ones you've already listed are. I'd rather talk about action.
      I do somewhat agree with this, but I'm sure you'll find that there are many, many Americans who aren't aware of many of these issues. (And, apparently, new issues are popping up all the time.) I see spreading awareness as a positive thing. Consolidating many issues into one thread could be plenty helpful as well, to anyone who might be new to this kind of political territory.

      By all means, discuss any possible solutions to any of these problems, that you may have. Just remember that we aren't advocating violent revolution, here.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      ...since 1925.
      It started really getting bad after Nixon declared war on drugs. Once circuit court decision after another stripped away automobile privacy with the language, "... the interest of fighting drugs..." Cops can pull over anybody and search their cars now. The 4th Amendment often comes up in court, but when the cops found drugs, the judges think there was obviously a reason to search. "Oh, he had red eyes," and, "I smelled cocaine," and other B.S. works just fine. If there is an issue raised about why the person was pulled over, it's as simple as, "He swerved a little," or, "He was driving too close to the car in front of him." When the cops didn't find drugs, they just drove off and there was nothing for anybody to complain about in court. Warrants are no longer required, although the 4th Amendment says they are. So, the 4th Amendment doesn't realistically apply to automobiles any more. It's open season on people on the road.
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      Facebook photo of 10-year-old with a rifle sends New*Jersey child welfare authorities to father
      AND may i add, authorities went in the house with NO WARRANT !!!

      "Now Shawn Moore, the dad, is claiming the authorities violated his rights when they threatened to take away his children as they searched his home last Friday night with no warrant."

      Read more: Facebook photo of 10-year-old with a rifle sends New*Jersey child welfare authorities to father

      DUN-DUN-DUHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
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      You ever feel like maybe your identity is getting wrapped up in oppression, to the point where you secretly grin a little bit of "I told you so" when things like the NDAA pass?
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      Think this sort of belongs here.
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      Toddler's death marks second time Georgia mom loses a son to violence - CNN.com
      What media wants you to read--> "I'm so afraid to have any more babies now. I tried to raise really good kids in a wicked world."

      Mayor Bloomberg says he will spend millions more to defeat the National Rifle Association and pro-gun pols
      Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...#ixzz2OWO4qCPY
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      I think the gun lobby is lining both sides of the debate, they're just making sure they line more pro-gun pockets that gun-control pockets.

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      Just say no to guns.
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      Quote Originally Posted by hathor28 View Post
      A guy that lost many close friends to gang/gun-violence. I understand his position on the matter, even though I disagree with the "ban guns" message.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Hercuflea View Post
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      Where can you really go that's any better? America isn't the only country with a corrupted government.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Woodstock View Post
      Where can you really go that's any better?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Woodstock View Post
      Where can you really go that's any better? America isn't the only country with a corrupted government.
      Look up Heritage Foundation's Index of Economic Freedom. There's about a dozen countries that are better than the US, such as Hong Kong, Singapore, Switzerland, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, Canada, etc.
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      Two sought in Yorkdale gang-related murder | CP24.com
      This is not a gang, this is mafia, gangs don't kill their own members. BTW i really don't think there is mafia here called "Asian assassins" it's all made up! Police even said they knew where and what these Vietnamese people were doing before they got shot. Asian assassins does not exist!

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