Originally Posted by
Darkmatters
As I said before, what about veterans suffering from PTSD who see people indiscriminately shooting people in games? Is it different when it's a man? Why would that be? Are you implying that women are weak and frail and need to be protected but that the same doesn't apply to men who carry open wounds (often physical as well as emotional)? How on earth could sexual harassment even compare with seeing friends blown apart or losing limbs? And yet people in general seem to have this attitude you're expressing, that we have to protect the women but not the men. Everyone believes women should be protected but that men shouldn't, in fact that men should just shut up and deal with it.
And I'm not actually trying to say that there should be no games with gun violence in them - I'm just wondering why people make this out to be a sexist issue when it's really an issue of upsetting people with open wounds. I think it would become a much more honest discussion if the sexist claim were removed and we could get to the actual meat of it.
What??!! I didn't say anything about rape in games!! I was talking about sexual harassment, and I said that it's fine as long as it doesn't go over the line and become porn rather than drama. That applies to violence as well (and rape too for that matter). And the reason I said it's wrong is because it's an assault against good taste.
Maybe I need to explain what I mean by porn - it doesn't refer to just sexual material. It basically means anything that's supposed to be artistic (stories, movies games etc) that is instead made to only appeal to our most base instincts with no saving grace of good story or good anything else. Like the Saw movies (and all the imitators) for instance, which are called torture porn. They're not good drama, they just go completely overboard in finding creative ways of showing as much torture and gore as possible.
That kind of stuff is addictive, which is why the people who like it REEEALLY like it. It's like, the first time you see it it shocks you, but after a while you get desensitized and don't mind it anymore, and even start to find a perverse joy in it that's different from anything else, partly because it's so shocking. People become addicted to this kind of stuff, and then we have a generation of weirdos (lol) who will grow up and think this is the kind of stuff they should make, and 20 years later its all over everywhere rather than just being a few isolated incidents like we have now.