I've stumbled onto an alternate model of the brain that basically states that the brain is a filter of consciousness instead of a producer of consciousness. I am interested to hear your opinion about this model of the brain. Perhaps you will notice flaws that I did not pick up. Perhaps you will see something that contradicts known science. Anyway if you are interested then click here
Probably the most unscientific thing I've read today, thanks.
DaredevilpwnQuote:
Originally Posted by Daredevilpwn
Thank you for the link to that interesting and big article. Ive only read a bit. I have to agree due to experience.
Sometimes the filter disappears momentarily. And enlightenment or cosmic consciousness happens. After the filter has come down once, the person spends the rest of their life yearning for it to happen again so that they can re-enter reality.
It happened to me. But it wasnt a near death experience like what the article is talking about.
What interests me begins about half-way down the page.
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Consciousness is not Produced by the Brain
Everyone knows that consciousness is influenced by the brain.
For example, a brain injury can cause amnesia. However, this correlation between neurological states and mental states does not prove the brain produces consciousness (the production model of the brain).
The same correlation would occur if the brain is a filter of non-physical consciousness (the filter model of the brain).
In the filter model, the the brain is said to filter some aspects of consciousness the way a colored glass can filter out some wavelengths of light. What passes through the brain filter is a restricted set of conscious faculties that we have while in the physical body.
The production and filter models can both explain how brain injuries might cause loss of function like amnesia. However, the filter model can also explain how brain injuries can result in new mental capabilities that the production model cannot explain.
This is because a filter can break in two ways: it can be clogged it, or it can be punctured.
According to the filter model of consciousness, when brain damage causes loss of function like amnesia, that is like a clog in the filter.
When brain damage produces new mental capabilities, such as ESP or in Acquired Savant Syndrome (see below) that is like a hole in the filter.
Furthermore, if you release the conscious mind from the brain as happens during a near death experience you should have expanded, unfiltered, consciousness. This is exactly what happens during a near death experience (see below).
The production model cannot explain how injuries to the brain could produce new functions like ESP or Acquired Savant Syndrome, or how expanded consciousness could occur during a near death experience, therefore the filter model is a better explanation of how the brain functions.
A skeptic may incorrectly say that the filter model is not a scientific theory because it is not falsifiable, since the filter model can explain any change in brain function, loss of function, or gain of function, there is no way to test it. This is a misunderstanding of falsifiability, it is like saying that the theory of buoyancy is unscientific because it explains why some objects float in water and other objects sink in water.
Subsections
● Introduction
● The filter model
● Frederick Myers
● William James
● Evidence Explained by both the Production and Filter Models
● Evidence Explained by the Filter Model but not the Production Model.
The brain definitely filters stimulus using various feedback loops, or perhaps I should say that the evidence suggests so. Nothing about this evidence, however, suggests that consciousness is not produced by the brain and it merely filters it though. That is just a projection either you or the author of the article you read made based on the limited available data.
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Originally Posted by snoop
I think dream remote viewing, precognitive dreams, mutual dreaming and dream to waking-life synchronicities are all evidence of Holes in the Filter .
Can you elaborate a little bit more, like what you mean by holes in the filter? When I speak about filters, I am not talking about a filter like the kind a coffee filter provides for coffee grounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by EbbTide000
The brain, from what one can observe, works via various feedback loops. These loops work as the acting "filter" of which we speak, by looping and reacting to each other to compare and contrast data provided by stimuli that actually exists, and works by ending the chain of other loops of erroneous data. When these feedback loops fail to "properly" do their job, a "noise" so to speak occurs and spills over into nearby neurons. The random activation of said neurons leads to unpredictable results that lead to hallucinations. Our ever cycling and updating construct of reality thus suffers from phantom stimuli and you believe you hear, see, feel, taste, touch, or hear things that aren't actually there according to what our brain is able to provide as its most accurate educated guess at what's really going on around us. We lose our sense of time completely, perhaps, or it dilates or constricts. We feel ourselves expand, implode, shift, translocate, die, live, speak, experience pressure waves, whatever.
These are not "holes" in the filter per se, but one could liken the spillage of neuronal excitation to the next nearest cluster to having a hole in the filter. Is that what you were talking about? Do you have more you can add? I implore you to be more specific next time, or perhaps not specific but to go further than to put forth a single statement. I like that you're thinking and getting me to think too, but honestly you've caused more confusion than prove anything. So if you care to, please try and explain yourself more.
SnoopQuote:
Originally Posted by snoop
Im using the term "filter" as it is explained in the link. Here is the next bit.
Snoop, I think that before the all pervading god came into existence, Billions of years from now, nothing had an eternal soul. But when god exploded into being, at the end of time, he merged with everything, giving each and everything, his eternal life.Quote:
There is no doubt that the brain and the conscious mind interact.
(snoop, I think you might disagree with that statement as many folk believe that the mind is just the result of the complexity of the human brain and that the mind cant exist apart from the brain.)
Brain damage can cause loss of some functions of consciousness. Amnesia after a head injury or poor memory due to aging are two examples. Brain tumors, injuries to the brain, mental illnesses, other diseases like rabies, and even puberty all influence behavior. Neurological activity can be measured and shown to be associated with mental activity. Nerve impulses from sensory organs result in brain activity, and the conscious mind has awareness of the sensations perceived. When the mind generates the impulse to move, nerve impulses are carried from the brain to the muscles to cause movement. Consciousness is affected by brain activity and it is able to influence brain activity. However this is only a correlation, it is not proof that neurological activity causes consciousness.
In fact, there is no good reason to believe that consciousness is produced by the brain.
(snoop, many believe consciousness IS produced by the brain)
The brain is a physical system. It is made of atoms that behave according to the known laws of physics. The brain is no more than a mechanical machine or an electronic computer. The reason such devices are*not capable of being conscious*is explained in more detail below. But consider a simple machine or a simple computer. No one would say such a device is conscious. However, because the brain is a very complicated system, some materialists will state that consciousness is an emergent property of the brain. This is a fallacy and is also*dealt with in more detail below. Calling consciousness an emergent property doesn't really explain how the brain could produce consciousness, it is just a fancy of saying materialism can't explain it.
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The correlation between consciousness and brain activity should also exist if the brain is an interface between a nonphysical mind and the physical body.
One way to think of this is that the brain is like a filter of consciousness
. This is called the filter model of the brain.
In the filter model, consciousness is a nonphysical phenomena and the brain filters consciousness while we are incarnated in our physical bodies. The brain could filter some aspects of consciousness the way a colored glass can filter out some wavelengths of light. What passes through the brain filter is a restricted set of conscious faculties that we have while in the physical body.
The filter model is superior to the hypothesis that the brain produces consciousness because the filter model explains more evidence.
You can damage a filter in two ways. You can clog it or you can punch a hole in it. When brain damage causes loss of function like amnesia, that is like a clog in the filter. When brain injury results in increased function, (snoop, like dream remote viewing, precognitive dreams, mutual dreaming and dream to waking-life synchronicities) that is like a hole punched in the filter. Examples of increased function include*Acquired Savant Syndrome*and when people have increased psychic abilities after a brain injury.
In the filter model one of the functions of the brain is to restrict consciousness. In that case, if you release the conscious mind from the brain as happens during a near death experience you should have expanded, unfiltered, consciousness. This is exactly what happens during a near death experience. People who have NDE's are able to perceive more than they do when in the body. They report seeing in 360 degrees and seeing colors that they do not see when in the body. Blind people report seeing during NDE's. Some near death experiencers report being able to communicate telepathically with other beings. Some report understanding that time is just an illusion or that they seem to have access to all the knowledge in the universe.
Restricting consciousness probably has some survival value. If a person had access to all the information in the universe about any time in the past, present or future, it might be difficult to concentrate on surviving here and now.
When our filter breaks down (a bit) we start to sense what the eternal being can sense (a bit), me thinks.
I can agree with this a bit, but it makes more sense to me that nothing before The All or God or whatever came into existence, nothing existed. That, or existence, more logically, has always existed and there is no beginning or end. The All/God/Whatever that made all of what we are capable of experiencing before us may very well have been a product of the exact same thing, and so we are part of an infinite chain of existence that keeps creating beings which strive to be able to create as God does and when that potential is reached, a massive explosion happens and it all begins again, for each of the last God's creations. Then, each does things its own way, to create beings which are capable of creating as them and continue existence, and so on.Quote:
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Thanx snoopQuote:
Originally Posted by snoop
I am a linea thinker. And I think I am right. And as people do more and more "easy, light, fun, friendly, dream games", (like, dream remote viewing, deliberate precognitive dream games, mutual dreaming and, as a result, notice, dream to waking-life synchronicities) you will see that I am right (!!!).
The opening post of this thread is an example of what I'm talking about :
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http://www.dreamviews.com/beyond-dre...-reloaded.html
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Personally I'd like to hear Frank DiMeglio weigh in on this.
AUTHOR Frank DiMeglio.Quote:
Originally Posted by cmind
AUTHOR Frank DiMeglio and Dr. Gene Ray would tear this scene up, TIME CUBED YOU DISGRACEFUL ONEIST PLEBIAN ASSFUCKS, UNLEARN WHAT DEVIL TEACHERS HAVE UNTAUGHT YOU THAT EARTH EXISTS IN ONE 24 HOUR DAY. THERE ARE 4 DAYS IN EACH SINGLE EARTH ROTATION 24 HOUR DAY.
It's all fundamental to the balance of gravity/ungravity and the inertia/anti-intertia balance of time-space space-time and proves dreaming is essential to the waking experience and all that good shit