Let's talk about our polygamist spouse!

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03-22-2015, 01:39 AM
Occipitalred

Let's talk about our polygamist spouse!

The wedding was non-consensual and happened at birth. Whether we like it or not, we are now a big family, all bound by unspoken vows to the same spouse: Evil. A concept yes, but we all do have a relationship with it anyhow.

What is the ideal healthy relationship with All-that-is-bad? (Evil, pain, destruction). Because it's there, and we all wish we could divorce it. Have any of you come with terms with Evil, and are you able to make the most of it in this forced marriage? Or are you still resisting?

What's with dreaming about violence. What's with watching violence on TV, or reading about it, or playing it on Video Games? When we or others suffer every day, and we complain about mundane things and find the need to discuss and ridicule "flaws" in others.

Should we not just say no! Revolutionize against it like people did to give equal rights to women and deliver those who were enslaved? Will we fight our way out of this union? Or will we just submit? Stay in the kitchen and nurse its babies? Or do we instead need to pull a Daenerys Targaryen and make this relationship one of the most healthy, powerful and passionate unions?
03-22-2015, 03:37 PM
~Dreamer~

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Originally Posted by Occipitalred

Will we fight our way out of this union? Or will we just submit?

You might have been alluding to this in an earlier paragraph, but I think submitting is more likely to free us from suffering than fighting. I guess it could be like a peaceful protest, if you want to think of it in those terms, but that still sounds like there's an enemy involved.
I'm not sure exactly what you define as "evil", but I have found that my pain can only be transmuted into something peaceful when I stop resisting and practice mindful acceptance. I think that feeling a sense of injustice or anger about a situation only allows the pain to feed on itself, and puts us in a position that feels very powerless and hopeless.
I'm certainly not immune to pain though; it's easy to become unconsciously absorbed in all the things you mentioned above, and I have a lot of learning to do yet. :meditate:
03-24-2015, 06:04 PM
Occipitalred

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Originally Posted by ~Dreamer~

I'm not sure exactly what you define as "evil"

Yeah, I was very broad with the word, I was including anything considered bad. :P

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Originally Posted by ~Dreamer~

I think submitting is more likely to free us from suffering than fighting. I guess it could be like a peaceful protest, if you want to think of it in those terms, but that still sounds like there's an enemy involved. I have found that my pain can only be transmuted into something peaceful when I stop resisting and practice mindful acceptance. I think that feeling a sense of injustice or anger about a situation only allows the pain to feed on itself, and puts us in a position that feels very powerless and hopeless.

Hmm... I think I agree with this. But I think maybe there's an emotion which combines both "anger" and "peacefulness" homogeneously, like a peaceful anger. I think it would feel like having your sympathetic pathway turned on (like during exercise or a high adrenaline moment) while being happy in the inside, although you are confronting something bad. Maybe this could be like people playing paintball. Where they know they must shoot someone else and not get shot but the whole things is just a game and enjoyable.

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Originally Posted by ~Dreamer~

I'm certainly not immune to pain though; it's easy to become unconsciously absorbed in all the things you mentioned above, and I have a lot of learning to do yet. :meditate:

As all of us :)