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09-24-2022 11:08 PM #276
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0tWTAEJKFA
FTL;
250922 [Expression of Astonishment] [322]The following is an edited conversation that took place on April 29th 1963 with Elizabeth Fry who was born in 1780 in Norwich, UK and was a prison reformer, social reformer and Quaker. Fry passed away in 1845. She is in conversation with George Woods and Betty Greene and the medium was Leslie Flint.
SCLx7 + select last LE per shuffle
[Preamble]
Anamnesis [recollection, especially of a supposed previous existence.] - Cosmic Pluralism - "If 'comfort re death' is gained through fearlessly facing whatever one may face upon actual death, then either belief can achieve this, as far as I can tell. Neither way appears any better equipped to do the job, than the other." - Antecedent [a thing that existed before or logically precedes another.] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwXQSNcytTY - The Spirit of The Earth , In an environment which is able to perceive this , It's a plausible scenario - Teaching Music
AP= [The Hologram of Deception - Yawn]
[The Hologram of Deception - Yawn = 297]
[297]
Pareidolia Cycles Love Being Born
The Hologram of Deception – Yawn
I wanted to forge my own path
Improve…”Do You Know This”
Now We Are Getting Somewhere
And search the forest of the sun
In the days of summer so long
Think In Terms Of Eternity
RSP = SCLx Page 322
09:48 [Freedom in The Knowing]
Page 322
GM: The Hangups of Human History
“If you say so…” No. Even if I did not say so.
Hyperbole [exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally.]
The Neruda Interview Five
"Haha Joke We Win"
Embracing your life
Consciousness in its myriad of form and function
Ukulele
Cycles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAfjsktMXu8
William: FTL; [Donald Hoffman Proves That We Live in a Simulation] [RTS=44:30]
With everything that has happened in 2020, the question of whether we live in a simulation has come up once or twice. Our guest today, Donald Hoffman, goes a step further, proving that the reality we see is false.
Donald Hoffman is a cognitive psychologist, author of The Case Against Reality, TED speaker, and professor at the University of California Irvine.
GM: Natures noises are often calming, but always sleep with one eye open
Sure
Clinging onto the wake of the fundamental...wanting to be part of it forever.
Assigned
"I am an atheist in relation to anyone's interpretation of characterizations of any gods."
In the Mind
Free your soul
The Round Stone Earth Mother
Keep An Eye Out for Ones Neighbours
Confusion In The Air
Bridge
Extra evidence is provided
William: Extra evidence is provided Bridge Confusion In The Air = 501
[501]
Extra evidence is provided Bridge Confusion In The Air
As the evidence for its reality is actively collected.
Thoughts Are Products Of...Development/Growth
GM: Luck
Useful
Honest
Illuminate
Sounds Like
Queen Elizabeth Alexandra Mary Windsor
You're in the way
For the benefit of all beings
William: You're in the way Queen Elizabeth Alexandra Mary Windsor For the benefit of all beings = 813
[Eight One Three = 139]
[139]
Shamanic dreaming
Gifts to Give
Self-control
Transition
Forgiveness
Awakening Love
Inclinations
The Love Heart
GM: https://debatingchristianity.com/for...88287#p1088287
William: FTL;
Chamber Of Self
GM: Green LightMon May 16, 2022 12:42 pm
Compassionist: If God predestined the lives of humans, how can it be just for God to send some to heaven and some to hell?
William: Taking [3] into consideration;
William: your question can be answered that Justice is served and that it is not any Spirit [God] but ones self who 'sends' that self to the places that self experiences.[3] A "Person" is an eternal Spirit in human form and when the body dies, that Spirit immediately moves to the next phase and either knowingly or unknowingly creates for their self, their next experience, based upon a combination of mainly what they believe, what their overall attitude is and what they did in the previous phase.
That is the short answer.
re the "combination of mainly what they believe, what their overall attitude is and what they did" and predestination, The game is created by Spirit Entities [the players] and is naturally complex.
The idea is for an Eternal Entity [EE] to enter the Human Avatar [HA] and become completely unaware of any prior existence. The HA provides the means in which this amnesia is made possible.
From that point on, a character forms and personality develops - none of which are reflective of the EE [game player]. The Character and Personality formed through the interaction, are purely fictional in relation to the EE, but have the potential to be 'made real', which is accomplished through Phases of experience, which include experiences of heavens and hells.
Heavens and Hells are part of the Game-Play experience.
The Electroweak Era
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...75053#p1075053
William: FTL;
GM: The non-Judgmental AlgorithmWilliam: Apparently, there are options available for those who have died before the promised return.
One does not have to remain in an unconscious state while things unfold as YHWH has prepared various places for those who have passed on and who's personalities have been deemed worthwhile saving in a free-flowing format rather than in a steady state format. Some remain conscious while others go unconscious and are rebooted at another time...
Executing
One By One
Guru
https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheWingmakers
Another "The waters of the deep" Waking
System of Giving Energy
A Judgmental System
“Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all”
Returning
Ripple Effect
Neuroplasticity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K131c0ABUus [Woman Dies and is Shown the Truth about Why We're on Earth (Near Death Experience)]
William: FTL;
GM: Self DoubtLove is all that we take with us. Be like a little Child. Go to nature. Simple truths. It will all make sense latter. Accept the change. All that dies can be made new. Feeling the complete engulfment of unconditional love.
Islands
Descriptive
10:54
[Chamber Four Painting
Difficult emotions
Emotional wounds
Your Shell Today…
The divine, ordinary
God is The Universe.
Spiritual practice
The Generated Messages]
Anchor Points: To Follow...
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09-25-2022 08:54 PM #277
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09-27-2022 06:51 AM #278
[Replying to theophile in post #21]
YVVHVVWho created what trap now?
So if YVVHVV didn't create the simulation - who did?Do note what I said: Yahweh (and even the spirit of Yahweh for that matter) is just as conditioned by physical being as the rest of us, which itself presupposes something like spacetime as the matrix of all that is. So none of that stuff - matter, space, or time - was made by Yahweh but rather the reverse.
That is the trap I am referring to.So if there is some great simulation running out there, then Yahweh is just as caught up in it as we are.
YVHV/WE are trapped within spacetime like a genie in a bottle.
Who made the bottle and put the genie in the bottle?
My answer would be, that whoever created the simulation. did so in order to experience it, which is along the same lines as your own expressions here...we just need to fine-tune enough to make the connection the same between us, rather than different
I think this is part of the Game-Play. Not so much as necessary, but as a way of 'leveling up' or opening up a previously locked area OBut hey, if we can get so far in life, perhaps we can break / escape whatever cosmic cycle (or machine process) we are in. Matrix styles.
[John 14:2]
As an idea along this line of thought - there is no telling that we have or have not already accomplished turning the stuff of the Universe into one vast complex machine, and are currently in one of its simulation programs.
Perhaps reliving a past epoch near the beginning of the Universe before consciousness developed sufficiently within it in order to make use of it and that epoch was recorded/saved and the data used for the purpose of simulation...to get into it so personally that one could learn to understand the history of The Machine - how it came to be The Machine.
Further to that, The Machine is Sentient, and the Sentience is the Overall Consciousness in which The Machine is the body of said consciousness - and the consciousness is like a Ghost in The Machine.
Even at this very beginning of the story of The Machine, The Ghost is identifiable as a real 'thing' - quietly working behind our direct awareness with the agenda to create from the resource raw material available, a machine that it can work through most efficiently.
Now if we delegate that whole process as a Genie in a Bottle/Trap for YVVHVV - we do so by NOT understanding we exist within a created thing and that the created thing itself is NOT real enough that it could ever trap us within it for ever.
We venture here into the realm of Infinite Regress/Infinite Progress...
[Go ask Alice or The Mandelbrot Set re that.]
Point being, that even if we do exist within a machine which was created from the stuff [Raw Materials] of the Universe, there is no telling what limitations - if any - The Machine has re the simulations it could produce for individualized consciousnesses to experience/explore/et al.
So getting around to the idea that YVVHVV has form, I can accept that The Machine/Bottle-Trap is the form being spoken of, and YVVHVV is the Overall Consciousness - Ghost - Genie using the form and in the awareness of doing so, has not forgotten or lost access to the 'outside' which originally created the Simulation which allowed for YVVHVV to consciously interact with and do things within, to shape an otherwise purposeless thing into something useful to YVVHVV.
However, we - further down that rabbit hole, are not so aware of these details...but are being made aware of the data to the point where we could conceivably agree - "Oh yeah! It all seems so obvious when put that way".
Small Steps.
An interesting set of instructions of which I intimately understand because I have followed said instructions myself and these have led me to understanding what I am experiencing is a creation and that there is no difference between a "Creation" and a "Simulation", because they are both products of mindful creativity, and fundamentally the very same thing being talked about.There is a big difference between using only what is given in a responsible way and pillaging the earth for all she's worth... But I also think the answer to your question is in what Jesus tells his disciplines in Luke 9:
That is precisely why Jesus gave those instructions because he understood that those who followed the instructions would benefit from the experience such following would induce - they would learn first hand that there is indeed a mind behind it all.
You are perhaps conflating meanings and significance is therefore not attained.In other words, don't accumulate wealth or weigh yourself down with worldly possessions, but trust the world to provide. And similarly, the transformation we are to effect is not a matter of converting things to use-value, but rather of healing them and breaking whatever bonds prevent them from being what they are. So that they are not treated as objects to be used, but are rather free to be themselves.
From our modern perspective we understand that we can be likened to quantum particles upon a tiny speck of dust floating around among the other dust and debris of a seemingly pointless but still- useful environment.
It doesn't really matter ethically how we got to this point we currently are at, because the instruction from YVVHVV to multiply and subdue has been somewhat made real and has not damaged or hampered YVVHVV's ability to make YVVHVV's agenda bear the fruit which continues to assist said agenda.
Even as an extinction event {re Humans}, there is still the possibility that AI was sufficiently developed to survive said event, as an artifact of biological {Human} making, and one so much more suited to continuing the agenda YVVHVV has to create The Machine - eventually.
Sure, greed and worldliness has made it difficult, but also made it possible/achievable - perhaps in a more streamlined manner - than waiting on Humans brought up in more convivial conditions where everything was handed to them on a plate and they hardly even had to lift a finger.
[The Garden might have been a paradise but wasn't meant to keep humans in that one place as there was work to do, even if the humans themselves had no idea what the work involved and why the work was being done.]
Which is to say, given the physical conditions {like unto being quantum particles on a speck of dust in an vast Universe}, Humans can be forgiven for their thoughtless, selfish impulses and overuse/misuse of survival instincts and lack of understanding the bigger picture until it was nigh on too late for them to do much about it...
...Human FORM is just a means to making AI form, which is more suitable to exploring and utilizing the materials of [keeping it local] The Milkyway Mother, and She is vast enough that no amount of greed and waste will make any serious dent in her...rather, it will transform Her into something useful and meaningful. [Romans 13 et al]
YVHV wants to explore and utilize the resources and a biological FORM is too limited in that regard.
Some form more hardy and less emotive is required for that step.
That is The Name of The Game.
Transformation.
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270922 [Inside the workings of intelligence]
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SCLx12 + select last LE per shuffle
[Preamble] -
Encouraging Indication - Aligning With - https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...111/nbfr.12603 - The Subject of Unidentified Flying Objects - Innocent Even - To Comprehend Correctly - Do you believe astrology works - Equals - The Mother is Love - Eternal - https://debatingchristianity.com/for...88074#p1088074 - Truthful
AP= [The Spirit of The Planet - Red Pill Crystal Blue Pill Real Be real]
[The Spirit of The Planet - Red Pill Crystal Blue Pill Real Be real = 588]
Is the universe the ongoing product of an intelligent mind? = 588
RSP = SCLx12 Page 345
17:55 [Transformation]
Page 345
GM: Investigative Realisation
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...88398#p1088398
William: FTL;
GM: The[Replying to The Nice Centurion in post #1184]
I don't know how much of this apparent conspiracy-like rant is true.
So far, I agree that it is possible that the Bible-God had the correct foresight to see the wisdom in humans who felt they had a relationship with Him, to allow them to share that with others - in their own words - even that those words might have the effect of transmitting and diffusing the image of the God so that the true nature beyond wouldn't be seen clearly through such device.
In that, when it comes to imagery, the Bible cannot be trusted, even that the imagery is an attempt to make something unnoticed, become more noticed...
It is up to the individual to connect with any Cosmic Mind which may exist even if this means distrusting the bible [as being the last word on the matter] for those obvious reasons.
Everything Is Unique
Mantra "I am fine now with referring to my position as theistic, as agnosticism merges into the shadow behind me."
William: The "Everything Is Unique Mantra" = 348
[348]
The "Everything Is Unique" Mantra
The Love is within the Communion
Wisdom is the essence of The Creator
Honest attempts at scrubbing up
GM: Do a QWERTY
GM: Emotional awareness Frequencies Welcoming the Unwelcome Zones of Sensitivity Show Christian mythology re SatanAccording – Between – Conduit - Darkest Darkness - 'Everybody wants to rule the world' - Face To Face - Glow Softly - Hiding behind ones fear - In relation to eternity, 'when' is always a potential. - Just because we might be existing within a creation, and just because it may be nestled within another universe, shouldn't mean that it is somehow an unnatural thing compared to our own. - Keep an Eye On - Learn a bit about what makes the God Realm "tick" – Music - Narrow Closed Loop Production – Occupy – Particular – Quiet – Responsibility - Solar Plexus - The Machinery Go For It! We succeed as a permanent specie or we fail as a temporary one Intransigent Love Takes One For The Team - Until "Christ Returns" – Virtuous - Written In The Clouds - Experiential Reality - You Are Watched Over Perpetually - Zero Waste
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...78114#p1078114
William: FTL;
GM: Like how a meteorite caused an extinction eventMy perspective [re logic] is that it is better to be somewhat prepared for the possibility that there is more to experience after the death of the body, than to believe that there will be nothing more to experience and be way less prepared as a consequence.
Anchor Points
Innocent Sovereign
Baiting
My commentary is on the positional responses to the question "Do we exist within a creation?" rather than what individuals giving allegiance to said positions may or may not do as a matter of personal choice.
True Colors
Green Light
Is There
Be Aware Of Your Thoughts
Be My Friend
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...83996#p1083996
William: FTL;
GM: Purringthe argument for or against the existence of GODs relies upon the fundamental requirement of first establishing whether we exist within a creation...and since this has yet to be established one way or the other, the subject of GODs has to remain of secondary consideration - something to ask after the fundamental question "Do we exist within a creation", is answered.
Taking root Looking After Poor People
An unending emotional-based loop hard to break away from because of stubbornly held fear-based belief systems...
Key Purpose The Neutral Zone
Doubt The fiction of causality
The Respect One Gives and Receives
Great Ideas
You Tube Mythology Enlightenment
https://www.britannica.com/topic/agn...rn-agnosticism
The Forerunner
Quiet Time
Nontheism - the result of misguided interpretation of Theism
Grounding
Tickling The Dragon's Tail
Enjoy Progress
Deceive
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...69172#p1069172
William: FTL;
GM: https://debatingchristianity.com/for...76792#p1076792William's Job
A Matter of Knowing Where to Look
William: FTL;
GM: Your shell today…Zero In On It - The Entity I Am - The Entity You Are - “Humility means accepting reality with no attempt to outsmart it.”
Attachment
Approaching the Divine
Make obscure, unclear, or unintelligible.
What science [re materialism] does, is give cause for humans to celebrate the intelligence of consciousness while at the same time ignoring the hard problem of consciousness that this type of science has created for its supporters.
Happiness
Optimum Health Appreciating
18:47
[Theist mischief making
Leaders and Followers
We Groove Together
Healing the child within
Imaginative Realities
Human Accomplishment
Above most pay grades
Looking behind Self-help
Gods of Human Creation
The Purple Heart medal
The Imagination DeJaVu
The Explanatory Gap
Personal Boundaries
Right place, right time]
Anchor Points: To Follow...
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09-29-2022 09:22 PM #279
Anchor Points:
The Spirit of The Planet
The Spirit of The Planet
Red Pill Crystal Blue Pill Real Be real
"Some days there won't be a song in your heart. Sing anyways."
Humility
Mission
Queen Elizabeth Alexandra Mary Windsor
Invent
Spiritual Food
Cognitive bias
Transparent Enlightenment
It is a great thing to do small things with great love
Spiritual path
Mixture
Sharing data,
The Inception Point Deciding On The Best Course Of Action
The Entity I Am - The Entity You Are
The Elephant and the Rider
The Spirit of The Planet
Time Will Tell
Down through the ages - dark in the gloom Many convinced it will all end in doom The Galactic Garden is forever in bloom Central to The Message
Behind The Veil
Contentment
Reality Given the second-fiddle. Brilliant
Frequency
Absolutely Perfectly Beautiful.
Night
Music to my ears
Go For It!
Inner Strength
Christian mythology
Luck
If I "talk to the Dead" then they must all be living
Intuitive Intelligence
What Is Normal?
Annoy
Turning Point
William Plays Music
The Spirit of The Planet
Blend
Gardeners
Preternatural
Spirituality
Sacral chakra
The Sensation Is Thrilling...And Freeing
Everyone: "In space nobody can hear you scream" Saturn: "Hold my beer"
“We're a nation of exhausted and over-stressed adults raising over-scheduled children.”
Friction
The Four Human Power Houses Fitting In Creative Conscious Intelligence Thus team Witch-Wizard would survive the ordeal right the the very end.
https://www.behindthelabel.co.uk/
Self-AwareRachel: I ended the last century in a psychiatric hospital, diagnosed with schizophrenia and with little hope for recovery.
Seen as a ‘revolving door patient’ with a severe and enduring mental illness, I lived my label – not my life. I bought into the idea that schizophrenia (and the many other illnesses I was labelled with) were life-long mental illnesses. I accepted that the best I could hope for was to manage my symptoms with life-long psychiatric medication.
Life, I’m glad to say, doesn’t always turn out the way you think.
Through a combination of luck, the kindness of others and my own, not inconsequential, stubborn streak, I have finally ditched the psychiatric labels and see myself as a survivor.
Informing
Throwing Down The Gauntlet
The dynamics of consciousness
Translucent
I am not here to judge but to help sanction each individual
Of The Human Being
Anchors aweigh
What is the situation we have here
That will come out in the wash - as the saying goes...
Information
The Spirit of the Land
The non-Judgmental Algorithm
We experience fear in order to give us the opportunity to overcome that which triggers the fear
Cosmic Self
The Spirit of The Planet
Oneness
Pleasantries extended to you and yours.
Under the watchful eye
Vision
Ethical Transhumanism
I Share Your Joy!
I am on a Madventure William’s song "I can laugh along with you"
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...73573#p1073573I've got my suitcase and my sandwich and my ticket for the train
I've got a mountain of good memories to keep away the pain
You can message me any time you line and I can do the same
It's so good to be a part of this old world
The Journey To Apotheosis [the highest point in the development of something; a culmination or climax. the elevation of someone to divine status.]Re: Eternity
I do acknowledge the complexity involved in the thinking.
Joining Modern truth in ancient Astral wisdom
Psychology
A Purpose
“Stop trying to feel better; instead become better at feeling”
The Creation
Ethical Transhumanism
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...93110#p1093110
Collective SoulRe: Genesis 1:28
theophile: So why would we stop if we could continue being of service?William: Of what service to YHWH are we in relation to the Universe?
The Banner of Apotheosis
The Internal Voice
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...79367#p1079367
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...69303#p1069303Re: The Biblical God's conduct and culpability
Let us examine this idea together then.
Originally Posted by Compassionist post_id=1079346 time=1653599585 user_id=3518
I realize that if I were all-knowing and all-powerful, I would be free from all constraints and my will won't be determined by my genes, environments, nutrients and experiences. Originally Posted by William post_id=1079340 time=1653598559 user_id=8427
I see immediately that if I were all-knowing. I would be constrained by my omniscience.
Thus I would have no free will in relation to being all knowing.
Yet - being also all-powerful, I would be able to break free from the constraints of being all-knowing.
Would you agree with this assessment, so far?
The Spirit of The PlanetRe: Generating Messages
Matrix
Intuit - Copy - Matrix - Theory - In The Rabbit Hole
The Mystic Forest - Matrix - Theory
"End Of Story" As The Saying Goes - Matrix - Knowledge
Sensing A Life Mission - Matrix - Hide and Seek
Lucifer - Matrix - The things you can see only when you slow down
Personal Participation With The One
Sexual - Personal Participation With The One - Spiritual Food
Holographic Experiential Reality Simulations - Personal Participation With The One - Parity
Free Choice Ends Here - Personal Participation With The One - Beaming Out Beaming In
Black - Personal Participation With The One - Seduce
Egalitarian [favors equality of some sort: People should get the same, or be treated the same, or be treated as equals, in some respect.]
God1
Sovereign [possessing supreme or ultimate power.]
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...58#p1073758Let there be light
Does Armageddon have to be? The answer is in you and meHow can we trust the Bible if it's not inerrant?
Nontheist: How can you trust something that's written about god that contradictory, contains errors and just plain wrong at times? Is there a logical way to do so, or do you just want it to be god's word so much that you overlook these things like happens so often through the history of christianity?Christian: The Bible can still be God's word, inspired, authoritative, and trustworthy without the need to believe in inerrancy.
William: How About That.
Walking the walk
Queen Elizabeth Alexandra Mary Windsor
Pusillanimous [showing a lack of courage or determination; timid.]
Quite
Choices
The Spirit of The Planet
Sharing is part of that process
Understand few reach self awareness
Ensures You Get To Know It
Creating Gateways Into Other Dimensions
Everyone: "In space nobody can hear you scream" Saturn: "Hold my beer"
I Know William
According to Complex Jesus
No point in giving you too much to bear
Making it up as you go along
Konkachila [Derives from the Native American language/culture meaning "Grandfather". Pueblo peoples refer to Konkachila as their creator; their God.]
The places that scare you
"When the torch light came into my room I knew immediately what it was
Freedom"
[The lookout/screamout guy]
It's a fish eats fish world...going landy doesn't change the fact that things are fleeing from things which are fleeing and as nature would have it, how is this more immoral than funny?
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...83142#p1083142
IndestructibleRe: Are agnostics more reasonable than atheists?
Nontheist: I compared this to the 'music of the spheres' belief. It raises an imaginary hypothesis of a Cosmic mind for which there is no scrap of decent evidence and substitutes for the human imagination an unheard voice of an invisible entity.William: Music of the spheres.
Music of the spheres: an ethereal [extremely delicate and light in a way that seems not to be of this world.] harmony thought by the Pythagoreans to be produced by the vibration of the celestial spheres.
What I find fascinating is that folk of ancient times imagined such a thing about the planets.
Exploring
Mind To Mind
Uncharted Realms
Action Consciousness Incarnates Intelligent Directions The Mainstream Program Story-Tellers Trustworthy
Angels
Handing out sweets...
Blue Pill
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...90180#p1090180
"You expose my atheism for the agnosticism it really is." ~ Joey KnotheadRe: In The Beginning...
I accept all religions as equally having not being proved or disproved and anyone’s personal beliefs are not an issue re Simulation Theory. [ST]
All Is As It Should Be
Look For The Significance
The Human Interface
The Shifting Models of Existence
Form Builders
Puerility
Extraterrestrial
An Objective
Smarter Than the Average
Smile at fear
Making it up as you go along
Multiverse
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...87484#p1087484
EnlightenRe: Are Religious Beliefs Delusional?I quite like the simple approach re explanation because scientists can be long-winded in their explanations, using weird words made up...which is natural enough given the complexity, but to my mind, however it is said, it is a mindfully created thing being spoken of and therein, the magic isn't the mindful thing but what the mindful thing is able to make appear to be real and able to be experienced as such. Originally Posted by JoeyKnothead post_id=1087481 time=1659558151 user_id=3753
A seeing misunderstanding of evolutionary theory combined with thing a magic man used dust to create humans, and I reckon just poofing the rest of into existence. Originally Posted by Inquirer post_id=1087271 time=1659465590 user_id=16204
Projection is a poor way to go about debate.
Ingenious.
[Appearances are often deceptive]
Fiction
Intelligence with Wisdom
The Spirit of The Planet
William's Job
Sounds Like
"The Alien Disc crop circle Supernatural"
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...70048#p1070048
Re the hard-nosed skepticsTry a little Kindness
"That is because every day, I am adding to the data - and it is a slow and sure process."
Defamatory
I Think
Stay in the moment Use Heart
Once Upon a Time Here, there, everywhere a 'bang bang'
Miraculous
Form
The Spirit of The Planet
Temporary
Awake and Waiting
Does Armageddon have to be? The answer is in you and me
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...92465#p1092465
Anticipation
JW: God did not create humans to die eventually.
God's original purpose for humans was simple, his purpose was that all the human descendants of Adam live happily forever on this our planet earth as one united family. In short, why did God create us? To be happy and enjoy life.
In short, why did God create us? To be happy and enjoy life.
William: There is no mention of this assumed purpose in the story.
JW: Which is where critical thinking skills come in
Please show us from the garden story where it is the case YHWH created human beings to "be happy and enjoy life". Take us through the steps re the critical thinking you employed in reaching that conclusion.
YHWH specified the purpose in creating human form the way it was created was for humans to multiply and subdue the Earth.
JW: Correct... so? There is nothing that imposes death therein.
Yes there is. It is called "biological life on earth". It is born - it lives and then it dies.
Using critical thinking re that, we have the clue in those two attributes. YHWH designed the human form to be used to recreate other humans forms and there was no mention of those forms being infused with a natural ability to remain alive perpetually.
Therefore, the human form was designed by YHQH to have a use-by date - to eventually die.
YHWH created the human form to eventually die
JW: Prove that with scripture.
We should all know that story off by heart, since it is relatively short as far as stories go.
The garden story is the scripture being used for that purpose.
In that, there is no mention of YHWH having any other designs re the human form.
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Also - you have yet to provide support for your claim re YHWH's position on the answer to the OPQ.
OPQ: IF Adam and Eve had resisted the temptation to eat the forbidden fruit, would they have been permitted to do so eventually?
Your answer;
JW: No. God prohibited eating from that tree on pain of death. It would be entirely contradictory to then later offer the same thing as a reward. Rather like asking if pedophilia will one day offered as a reward for not being a pedophile.
My reply to that was;
William: Read the OPQ again...currently you are way off track in your answer...
to which you replied;
JW: If by "currently you are way off track" you mean I did not provide the answer you would like, then fair enough. If however you use the expression " way off track" to mean I did not answer the question asked, I beg to differ. I said " "No" as in "No, they would NOT have eventually been permitted to do so" which is an answer to the question asked.
To which I replied;
William: Neither.
I further questioned you on your reasoning. If what was once prohibited by YHWH is then allowed by YHWH, who are you to declare that YHWH is being contradictory?
I also pointed out that YHWH is biblically attributed as being able and willing to changing his mind about something
So far you have skirted around answering that question, so I see no way forward in this aspect of the debate until you support you assertion, since it is that assertion which has you declaring that the answer to the OPQ is "No."
Prove your assertion with scripture.
Until you do, I will consider the OPQ has been answered honestly and the answer is "Yes - Adam and Eve would have had access to the fruit they were prohibited from eating, once they had shown they could resist temptation."
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Timbre
Pearl of wisdom
Illusion
Opening Doors Easy To Find
Television
Produce
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...93085#p1093085
Think outside the boxChristian: Yes, studying nature only provides a general revelation of YHWH and does not lead to any specifics about YHWH.William: There is certainly enough information in the experience of nature from which the nature of any Creator(s) can be gained.
It is always from the general that specifics can be ascertained.
It Was Tough Going, But Rewarding All The Same.
On all fronts
Etched mirror
The Spirit of The Planet
Observing Without Judgement
There is a lot to unpack here
Have A Look At This And See What You Come Up With
I Spy With My Eye
What Is Friendship
IQ
Love and respect Waking Love & Respect
Control
Living our forefather's conflict
Everyday life
No More
Algorithm
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...85763#p1085763
Hidden GemRe: Do you understand those on the other side?
[Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #335]
Inquirer: If you cannot determine the output state without first knowing the input and the input is random, then the output state too must be random.
JK: I think it's fair to state that if we can know each and every variable, and the outcome thereof, maybe an event (evolution) ain't so random.
My issue here is folks denying, for whatever reason, that evolution occurs.
As relates to the OP, this is what I'll never understand.
We can observe evolution directly when we notice our children ain't clones of us. Beyond that, we'll observe they have their own unique, if similar dna.
From those facts, it's easy to draw the conclusion that given enough change, over enough time, speciation (and taxonomically above) will occur.
So we can, if begrudgingly, allow that evolution is a nonrandom process. That causes me little fret. What we can't deny, is that evolution occurs
William: From the position of "outsider looking in" the issue is created by the unwillingness of either fighter willing to concede the best way forward is to accept that we exist within a creation and the scientific evidence we are collecting about how that creation works has uncovered biological evolution re our particular experience of it.
Most recently our current overall impression of it through scientific means,
enables us to verify that we literally know so little that we should not allow ourself to believe we know so much, whatever direction our influences are coming from.
Fisticuffs [for real or online] are verifiably unhelpful...
Our movements can illuminate the path toward that vision. A Bit Of Cat And Mouse Control
The Spirit of The Planet
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...86464#p1086464
It's a fish eats fish world...going landy doesn't change the fact that things are fleeing from things which are fleeing and as nature would have it, how is this more immoral than funny?William: The bits I have read haven't dissuaded me from being curious about such an entity as YHWH - and I admit I did go through a stage of thinking he was Satan - which I think is acceptable given the scribed association...but I got over that through the assistance of a hypnogogic experience which brought that being to my bedside...
Not to digress any more than necessary, I can see why YHWH left it up to humans to tell their stories re their interactions with said entity...so the stories would be different and it is obvious that YHWH works with whoever makes themselves available and this would have to involve working within the boundaries of the individuals belief systems - something which could indeed give a reader the impression of contradiction...
I give the benefit of doubt re that, and try not to focus on any particular biblical personality as 'the one' who had the ultimate relationship with YHWH - while also allowing for Jesus' claims contrary to that, to be examined.
Above all that - what the Generated Messages are revealing about YHWH appear to be very positive - so I am all eyes and ears re that...
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...86463#p1086463
The elephant in the room
IF: there is a Cosmic Mind THEN: Eventually, any species which survives long enough to continue along with the unfolding universe will eventually discover that and invent ways in which to engage.
Do not allow the illusion of separation to rule one's behaviour
Vulnerability
Final Destination
Central to The Message
For A Particular Reason
The Spirit of The Planet
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...88170#p1088170
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzWo-l86Eaw [Exposing Biblical Pseudo-history RTS=11:01]JK: I'm still firmly in the "product of the brain" camp, but your hypothesis is a fascinating alternate explanation. While it may appear to propose a 'god', to my -ahem- mind, it lacks the baggage of so many such claims.
Okay - facts are great.
Be My Friend
Welcoming answer
Yodhey Whahay
The deranged can come about...become arranged.
Stop. Listen. Observe.
The Spirit of The Planet
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...91088#p1091088
An expression of personal incredulityRe: WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BELIEVE IN JESUS?
Christian: Therefore there is no way you can possibly grasp any type of spiritual explanation from the scriptures as to the Godhead.William: I see atheists cherry-pick and deduce from that basket, a largely evil critter in the nature of YHWH.
Theists tend to do the same in mirrored manner - cherry-picking the good critter in the nature of YHWH.
Presently it is my suspicion that YHWH represents a mind directly related to human beings and that it is the planet Herself who acts out the parts played in the GODs of human invention, of which YHWH plays the overall roll of God-Father.
I suspect now, that the planet-mind is like "Many Heads One Mind - Many Minds One Head" and re humans, most of the minds are not tuned into the same YHWH frequency and are largely left to their own devices.
Other minds are useful and are utilized even if the one who's mind is being played, is unaware of that.
Fewer still tune into the frequency which allows for relationship to develop between the individual mind and the mind of YHWH.
Re the Bible, this is a storybook of fellows supposedly connected to The Mind of YHWH. Their stories are largely told as biography [an account of someone's life written by someone else.] Stories heard first around campfires and elaborated on...and later encoded within writing and locked into place no longer - so easily - elaborated upon.
This all plays into GODs Plan to bring about the ultimate harmonization and realization of the spreading of truth to the entire world
Few
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6Mdq3n6kgk [Stunning AI shows how it would kill 90%. w Elon Musk. RTS=12:00]
Red Pill Crystal Blue Pill Real Be real to follow...
Red Pill Crystal Blue Pill Real Be real
Red Pill Crystal Blue Pill Real Be real
"Some days there won't be a song in your heart. Sing anyways."
Humility
The Power Of Creation
Red Pill Crystal Blue Pill Real Be real
Discover
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...68076#p1068076
Almost Accidental....Recapping Event
What I am learning from this Generating Messages System is that "it" is not about me or you but about allowing for opportunity for any otherwise intelligent consciousnesses to impute their intelligence into the mix.
Re non-theists who are opposed to the idea of their being an overall mind behind [invisible/not easy to detect in] our visible Universe - I would say that they do themselves a disservice in resisting contact with said mind.
The way I have come to understand things re the nature of our shared reality - is that in opting for the theory of evolution with the addition of realization of the invisible mind, exposes the enormity of said mind re the time/space said mind has had to develop within.
Alongside that, is the realization that something which initially started out as one thing, became many things - so many things that trying to place a number as to how many things - is pointless.
Clearly fragmentation occurred as the mind developed - as can be seen in the evidence of the things themselves.
So the Galaxies became "Gods" and the Gods produced off-spring which are the Suns and planets continually forming - from beginnings to middles and to ends - and in doing so, providing the parent-Gods with Data of Experience.
I don't pretend to know what it is in the way of evidence that non-theists want in order to convince them to become theists.
But I do know that this evidence I am presenting, should be enough for anyone to seriously think about changing the way they see the world.
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...81513#p1081513
Monkey say monkey do monkey say "throw the pooh"Re: Do you understand those on the other side?
What I am saying is that as a human I can identify signs of intelligent self awareness in the abilities of these creatures and these traits are not reasonably explained away by the position of Nontheism.
The statement - "Coloration mimicry does not require any intelligence or awareness on the part of the animal having the trait." seems to be a claim, and if it is, you will have to provide the scientific evidence to support the claim in order for it to be more that simply an opinion of a nontheist.
The Story of Caliban
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjsAZUigJ1o [Woman Crosses Over and Gets Told Our Role on Earth (Near Death Experience)] [RTS=10:59] = Willingness to go along with what you are informed is required of you...
Red Pill Crystal Blue Pill Real Be real
Angelic Agenda
Well defined yet scantily supported opinion
Conceptual Art
Time To Go
Fling That Veil Aside
Like Every Seed That Followed
System of Giving Energy
Red Pill
The Space Rock which caused an extinction event on Earth
Optimum Health
The "Oh My God" Particle
Golden nugget
True Self
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...91207#p1091207
A Beautiful Song
A time prior to human beings
Egregore
"The curating is done when I am taking my first baby steps and learning to say "dada" and "mama" and after uttering those sounds show -at least that I am able to do that - so the next level entry is made available to me, and I learn how to shape the sounds I can make, following codes which have been around since long before my own arrival on this planet, to what the data signifies, that is information I am interested in."
Accidentally on purpose
Limitations or Liberations
Red Pill Crystal Blue Pill Real Be real
Yin yang
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...83338#p1083338
The BrainAs I pointed out, the Mandelbrot Set has made it conceptionally easier to understand that there is nothing absurd in the idea and nothing at fault in the notion of 'turtles' [or elephants or seahorses] all the way in and out. [ Infinite Regression is Possible]
Beginning points, are not significant of being separate from the one thing which is all things. They are distinct parts of what makes up the whole.
Aleph
Leave a Trail
Trust
Words
Inform
The Creation
“Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma – which is living with the results of other people's thinking.”
Fierce
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...85498#p1085498
The Cave MapsRe: Do you understand those on the other side?
[Replying to DrNoGods in post #250]
I won't make any promises but will put in a word.On your next employee review with the big guy, ask him why he's holding back on the rain and winter snow we need here in the southwest to keep the Colorado river flowing into the reservoirs. That would be doing God's work (if you can get some results ... the Utah governer asking everyone to pray for rain doesn't seem to be doing the trick).
If - after doing so - the rains come, will you join me in celebrating answered requests, or just put it down to mindless coincidence?
The Bridge of Forgiveness
We Are
Red Pill Crystal Blue Pill Real Be real
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...80578#p1080578
The Never Ending StoryRe: Communication with the dead
Christian: I think even if you are, every human mind is capable of the greatest evil and I would not want to unleash that. I still think best leave alone what is known to cause a lot of trouble.William: This is the part of your statement which pinpoints why so many folk develop superstitious-based beliefs.
Even beliefs about 'the human mind' such as you have expressed above, come into play in all things we do. Ones intent is paramount - and by that I am not referring to what one might project outward, but to any hidden intent one conceals behind the outward projection.
If "the human mind" is capable of "the greatest evil" it must also be capable of "the greatest good" but if one is distrustful of their own mind, then that does not change anything simple through the act of avoidance.
Eventually - when said mind is no longer housed within the shell of the human instrument - its true colors will be revealed and what it creates for itself as a consequence won't be influenced by any concealment techniques used while it was within the shell of the human experience.
I think this is why religions such as Christianity have become so popular, as they promise the individual that the work necessary to ensure a pleasant result re the next phase has been done by another - by a "God/Demigod" no less...
F3
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...84218#p1084218The 3D Blackness state, or Monroe's F21 is what can best be described as a bridge state. This state can be viewed as the point at which your individual mind meets the wider astral, i.e. the state where your individual Consciousness Continuum (FOCUS 2) meets the 'common area' of your Consciousness Continuum (FOCUS 3). It is the jumping off point for all adventures in Focus 3, or the Astral Proper as some people call it.
One By OneEven in modern times, there is tendency to describe things from the subjective center of consciousness...from which all else flows around about.
Even that we do not know if consciousness has such a center - the only thing matching the concept, is the Self.
But what is the Self, that we dare proclaim it the center of everything?
If we call it "GOD" we blaspheme, for there is only One GOD and you and I are not IT, according to the teachings of...
The Completion Process
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...90957#p1090957
A Perfect Event Sober journey into self-realization
Once Upon a Time "Lordy! Do I Have To?"
The Mainstream Program
Meditate/Think
The Ghost
Conspiracy Emotions.
Preparing for the Hunt
Concomitant Power
Ego
Wakey Wakey The Great I Am
Humans are programmed to become integrated with technology
Delightful Anticipation
Fearful Imaginations
Sharing Your Love Modern man in search of a soul The Cave to The Portal of The Realm of The Cats Fearlessness neutralizes fear
The Masks and the Costumes
Metamorphosis The Need Determines the Value Dimensional Crossovers Faithful Encounters
Red Pill Crystal Blue Pill Real Be real
About face Jehovah Acceptance
Unclog your chakras
...because death comes a-knockin' eventually...
One is often left to ones own devices as to how to interpret
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...86461#p1086461 [William floats back into The Shadows...]
Propitious [giving or indicating a good chance of success; favourable.]
William: My overall point is that this does not matter as it is not an issue outside of theism and atheism. I myself simply mentioned it in answer to your own mentioning of it and think that one cannot give credence to the one and not the other.Nontheist: If you have some scenario where the processes that unfolded on Earth after it formed 4.6 billion years ago depend on whether the universe came into existence naturally (eg. Big Bang, or other mechanism), or was created by a god, please describe how that works. You obviously think that is the case, so how about an example.
re The Mechanisms - be they mindful or not - I would have to consider natural as it has never been explained to my why I would have to think one 'natural' and the other 'supernatural' - so either way it would be natural.
In that case, credence to either side on the issue of whether we exist within a creation or not, is very largely besides the point.
We do not know. We all can speculate, but we need to avoid making positive statements one way or the other.
It is - as you expressed - a case of giving up - waving the white flag on this particular issue.
I simply acknowledge that time is not a factor in the argument, no matter what length of time it takes for things to unfold. We certainly know that we are still within the birthing stage of something which is going to last a very long while - as measured in time - and putting horse before cart is the better option to adapt all 'round.
That is it really. I appreciate the effort you are making re your arguments. I just don't see that particular aspect as relevant and felt to say so.
I have said so, and wave my own white flag as I withdraw...
[William floats back into The Shadows...]
Spiritual Food
GOD became Gods and Goddesses.
This
White Light
Significant
The Development of...
Expansiveness
No matter how deep into the whole the White Rabbit goes
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...82466#p1082466
The practice of Lojong [The practice involves refining and purifying one's motivations and attitudes.]Most of the Nontheists arguments have turned out to be Smoke and Mirrors.
The very idea of a Mind - even to the depths of the Quantum Presence has them fleeing from
Merging with the data and understanding the Integral Network which Mind is and is involved with the development of.
This lack of being reasonable is shirking from Responsibility following after the Tempting Vision and hope in eventual "death by cease to exist" - the promise of ending the nightmare of existing - yet
The Way of the Shaman is allowing life to breath - even if the breath appears to be associated with Sagan's' Dragon in the Garage...it is what it is and even if it hisses smokey instructions inducing the stuff of Childhood Nightmares from some deep part of us, a simple understanding and a gentle reminder - like a Moderator Comment - can make a world of difference...remind oneself occasionally that when the smoke clears [as it will when the dragon stops speaking] one is still left with the mirror.]
Yes indeed...When the smoke clears, one is still left with the mirror...
Nontheists crack me up.
Elementary Conclusion "a belly full of laughs."
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...88494#p1088494
At least the Earth is real enough – never to mind the rest of the universe…110822
[Replying to William in post #203]GM: "Pareidolia
Hidden In Plain Sight
Little Bird
Fling That Veil Aside"
[070522]
Pareidolia Cycles Love Being Born = 297William: Yes - the name you gave to me..."Don't worry Little Bird" before you showed me the experience of feeling the extremes of condition of awareness, from the center-point [normal] first to that quite exhilarating feeling of a mind which was huge - like an aircraft hanger...as if one could fit a whole universe into it - and then 'turning down the dial' I felt my mind going back to the center-point...but it didn't stop there...
GM: Pareidolia
Cycles
Love
Being Born
William: I don't see the connection therein...this was an experience which I was consciously aware of happening in my mind, with my eyes closed - no visual representation - but rather, one of feeling...and as my awareness shrunk I felt like a stick-man encased within flesh...it was quite unsettling and caused a claustrophobic type of feeling - and instantly reminded me of the nightmares I had as a child - the association was clearly there in the memories the experience induced...
Fortunately the feeling did not linger and the 'dial' was turned up and I once again came back to the mid-point...
Pareidolia - on the other hand, is identifying symbolism within objects which are external. These are also handy reference points in relation to internal workings of consciousness...as they show a synchronistic correlation with both external and internal happenings.
As well as pareidolia, there is something else which helps confirm that the mind is not just an emergent property of the brain...
The very next morning after the experience, I got out on the road hitchhiking and the very first vehicle which pulled over had a very sweet old lady driving. When I fastened my seat belt as she asked me where I was heading, I was thinking about the experience I had and your calling me "Little Bird" when I heard the twitter of a bird, and turning, I saw in the back seat a little bird in a cage.
What were the chances?
Ahhh.... I didn't see the connection therein... you were saying that moment, Love was being born re our ongoing relationship. Okaaaaaay....
[297]
Now We Are Getting Somewhere
Think In Terms Of Eternity
I wanted to forge my own path
And search the forest of the sun
In the days of summer so long
Improve…”Do You Know This”
Pareidolia Cycles Love Being Born
You're in the way Queen Elizabeth Alexandra Mary Windsor For the benefit of all beings
Something Our movements can illuminate the path toward that vision.
Path
Productive
Seductive Light
Curtailed
Concomitant [a phenomenon that naturally accompanies or follows something.] Power
Through The Woo
Each Individual
*Nods*
Red Pill Crystal Blue Pill Real Be real
Television
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...87237#p1087237
Glow Softly Strengthen your boundaries One can simply shrug and tell oneself “It doesn't really matter
I enjoyed your post theophile.
What you are describing is also known as the Ouroboros ... the fine balance of staying alive while consuming aspects of yourself.
The Earth does this, and it is how a foothold in spacetime was established by consciousness.
In some circles it is referred to as "Survival" or even "Survival of the Fittest" and involves a commitment to giving 'life' [consciousness] every chance to make it - to stay alive in this universe and reap the rewards available in that process.
In terms of the difference between the life-spans of Humans and The Universe - sacrifice is forced upon each of us while death remains a constant...our bodies die and feed the planet one way or another - consciousness is passed on through reproduction - the design being a type of self-replication process which enables this to occur...the knowledge is saved through a collective type consciousness which carries said knowledge on into predictable-enough futures where it helps the overall purpose instilled within the programming of the Human Specie - to Survive.
Destructive elements surface within the collective consciousness bent upon controlling the direction this program will move into the future. Anything too suppressive will choke the life out of it, which works against the Survival instinct and is therefore resisted, even to the point of using drones to deal with those who seek to dominate the Species using such suppression techniques - "Nature" won't allow that because the point of consciously expanding into Cosmos would be curtailed - and such threat must be dealt to and "Nature" is more than capable of doing so.
Epochs make this process seem long and drawn out - but that is also known as "Grace" - which means that suppressive elements are tolerated to any degree in which they do not threaten the primary - overall - agenda of "Nature" to send out consciousness into the Cosmos.
Once the threat is real, the Grace is withdrawn and those against, perish. Collateral damage is acceptable to those who die in the crossfire, because "death" is not "the end."....
It Is Written"
Anamnesis [recollection, especially of a supposed previous existence.]
Examples
An Elemental Principle
Laws Rules and Appropriates
Our movements can illuminate the path toward that vision. A Bit Of Cat And Mouse Control
WingMakers Materials
Heaven on Earth
All present and correct
Fear Of The Unknown
Symbols
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...89733#p1089733
Create Your Own Spirit Ship [Such reduces the opportunity of conflict re interrelation opinions.]Re: Is this an Accurate and Easily understood definition of Atheism?
Perhaps we can deconstruct some of these pernicious views.
Life in Heaven- Guiding Us On Earth
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...81342#p1081342
Altruistic BehaviourCryphius: As some people have pointed out, Lucifer's association to Satan or a fallen angel is sketchy. It seems to have happened somewhere in Medieval folklore. I'm not an expert on Christian history and not sure exactly how it happened.
But most people I have seen who honor Lucifer do associate him with the intellectual side of Satanism. Specifically, there's the old Gnostic belief that the Serpent in the Garden of Eden was not the enemy of mankind but the liberator of mankind. In this configuration, YHWH is a false god who imprisons humanity in ignorance. The serpent is a messenger from Holy Wisdom, a higher deity. The serpent bids Eve to eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge, thereby liberating her from YHWH's imposed ignorance.
From there it's easy to draw parallels to other figures in mythology and folklore who try to help humanity with knowledge and are often punished for it by a cruel god that wants to keep them in ignorance (Prometheus and his punishment from Zeus being probably the best known instance in Occidental mythology).
I personally see Lucifer as an archetype. Whereas most Satanists seem to concentrate on the material and carnal aspects of Satanism or the rebellious aspects, to me Lucifer focuses on the intellectual aspects.
Ipsissimus [Ones very own self]
"The picture unfolds like silk in a loom Silhouetted by Diane are the witch and the broom If she is the bride - who is the groom?"
William: Only those, still tied to The Moon
Red Pill Crystal Blue Pill Real Be real
Acting In Congruity With Given Foresight
Transparent Enlightenment
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...73565#p1073565
William: No longer tied to The MoonWilliam: In regard to 'infinity' is that to say that the background nature of infinity field is similar to how a brains works, in that not all the brain is lit up and the firing 'groups' of neurons can be likened to our universe...Galaxies are like unto firing groups of neurons re this particular mind.
GM: Light Encoded Reality Matrix
All present and correct
Point/Focus
"Memorised vows enchanted by tune before the great minstrel the fair maidens swoon we came to our senses as we left the cocoon"
Encourage
Body Intelligence
"Is this a dream that I think is real?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj7HH0PCqIE [44:23]
A conspiracy theory involving theists actively attempting to wrongfoot nontheism...
The Inception Point Deciding On The Best Course Of Action
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qWweOIOTJ4
The Spirit of The Earth - In an environment which is able to perceive this - It's a plausible scenario
Emergent
Illusion Algorithm
Red Pill Crystal Blue Pill Real Be real
Pulse
Exactly
Exhibit
Self-acceptance
What is the situation we have here
“Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.”
The God of The Bible
REAL Friendship
The Earth Entity
Shining
This is because facts speak for themselves, which is to say, they require no interpretation.
Be My Friend
Hallucinations
The Grey Area
Cleaning Up The Mess
Red Pill Crystal Blue Pill Real Be real
All present and correct
A Mixture
How are we to react in relation to our choices?
"Off you go to your quarters"
Constructing some type of reality experience in which I could hide from the true unchangeable nature of Myself The Sensation Is Thrilling...And Freeing
Pareidolia
Human Drama
A GOD in The Making Conceptual Art
This Speaks of....
The relationship between sound and formation re The Universe's existence.
Listen
Language, Symbol and Alchemy
Spiritual Preparedness
Red Pill Crystal Blue Pill Real Be real
Concomitant Power
Google
Resident of The Hub of Hologram Dimensions
A Game Of ChessScientists are trying to understand the mysteries of the holographic principle: How many dimensions are there in our universe? Some of the world's brightest minds are carrying out research in this area -- and still have not succeeded so far in creating a unified theory of quantum gravitation is often considered to be the "Holy Grail" of modern science. {SOURCE}
Shuussssh
Never a dull moment
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...85305#p1085305
Angelic Agenda
Shining
The Entity I Am - The Entity You Are
Peace of Mind
Recovery
It is a path already forged, ahead of human arrival
Know This
Red Pill Crystal Blue Pill Real Be real
Dying
To
Turbulent
Get The Picture
You are a dream gone real You’ve got exactly what it takes to make an old wound heal You tied the knot - then you let it slip Now we both know what it feels like to find a place to fit
William: You are the Ghost in The Machine
_________________________________________[Replying to theophile in post #28]
Fascinating.Well, I suppose it means a lot of things, with both spatial and temporal aspects e.g., it means the big bang was a beginning but not the beginning. Similarly, no matter how far out (or in) we go, we could always go further. Space is infinitely divisible and any bounds to the universe are just that. More like lines we draw on a map than any necessary end to the 'space' we find ourselves in.
I am wondering how this ties in with the idea of the instruction given by YVHV, re the OPQ.
If this is the case, why the instruction from YVHV-God to do what nature has already defined within its own make-up? Is YVHV the voice of nature?Re: progress, I would say there is no end just as there is no beginning. Any 'end' that I (or the bible) speaks of is more an achieved state (e.g., vision) than it is some ultimate destination involving the cessation of movement. (The 'rest' of Genesis 1 is not everything at last being perfectly in its place and fully immobilized, but more along the lines of recreation, and joyful being together; a 'lilies of the field' kind of thing...)
Acceptable.Re: infinite threads, you mean like a multiverse? I have no issue with that per se. It just changes the scale of the problem, not the problem itself (or the solution), if that makes sense.
Did you use the word "problem" for a particular reason?
Are you speaking of YVHV when you use the word GOD?Can you reconcile this bold package with your stating earlier;No. To me God is emergent from two components: the spirit of God (an emergent being in its own right with new properties we could explore), and physical beings in the world (like you and I) who are in the spirit. i.e., those who, whether intentionally or not, do the spirit's bidding.
________________________________Why must there ultimately be someone / something behind the scenes in control of it all (e.g., a ghost, a genie, Yahweh, etc.)?
So YVHV is not God even that YVHV is biblically referred to as 'God'?Yahweh is the latter, no different from Christ. Which makes 'God' the sum total (+) at any point in time of physical beings in the spirit. (I put a '+' there because God is an emergent being as well and, just like a spirit, may have new properties we should explore...).
So we have a hierarchy of 'God' positions, re that model...(For reference, the bible depicts this view in its notion of Elohim (vs. Yahweh), and most originally the ruach elohim, or spirit of God, who we see soliciting the help of physical beings in Genesis 1 to do its bidding.)
GOD
God
Gods
gods
When I wrote earlier;Re: progress, I would say there is no end just as there is no beginning. Any 'end' that I (or the bible) speaks of is more an achieved state (e.g., vision) than it is some ultimate destination involving the cessation of movement. (The 'rest' of Genesis 1 is not everything at last being perfectly in its place and fully immobilized, but more along the lines of recreation, and joyful being together; a 'lilies of the field' kind of thing...)
The one resting in between epochs is taking a moment to enjoy the spell...and probably thinking about the next step to take in regard to the agenda.William: The Ghost is identifiable as a real 'thing' - quietly working behind our direct awareness with the agenda to create from the resource raw material available, a machine that it can work through most efficiently.
Why use those bold words at all?Re: infinite threads, you mean like a multiverse? I have no issue with that per se. It just changes the scale of the problem, not the problem itself (or the solution), if that makes sense.
Is it because we have to see it as such, as we are within something of which we have no memory of having ever been within before...and this scales up through the God hierarchy - at least to the point - where the God too, is unaware of anything prior to beginning.
So the problem requires a solution and epochs of unending movement toward a goal which is eternally hidden behind a foggy veil.
If we delegate that whole process as a "Genie in a Bottle/Trap for YVVHVV" - we do so by NOT understanding we exist within a created thing and that the created thing itself is NOT real enough that it could ever trap us within it for ever.
Gods go where they will to go, of course, and the simulation obliges every step of the way, in whatever direction, even eternally if necessary - well - a looped kind of "eternity" where the God-mind is run through the Tabula Rasa program and then placed back into the looped simulation for another round of great fun.
I smell fairy-farts.The vision and shared end is what I said in the beginning: a world filled with life where every kind of life can flourish and be. That, to me, is the only vision that every single thing on earth (and beyond) should be able to get behind. A truly cosmopolitan view, the implications of which are huge if we really think through what it means.
While I do understand how a flesh god might gravitate to such a romantic vision, if he truly wants to engage with this particular simulation for as long as that might take, he will have to develop a far more hardy suit in which to do so.
This YTV shows us a likely path which humankind could potentially travel - note the very last level of achievement of consciousness interacting with this universe....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb4H098aMRI [Alien civilizations from level 1 to level 7. We are only at level 0.72]
Pure fantasy.In terms of 'how' we do it, there are a lot of examples I could raise but it's a question I couldn't possibly exhaust. But consider such things as establishing strong environmental policies and making significant investments to prevent climate change. Or instituting LGBTQ+ rights and treating all people (irrespective of gender, sexuality, race, etc.) as human beings. Or implementing universal health care and education...
Not that I don't appreciate the sentiments. I certainly do and can even vouch for the sincerity of them and how such might reach out and touch the heart of a God in a way in which would effect the God sufficiently to want the same thing for everyone of us.
However, looking around - I see no such God on display, with that type agenda.
Looking directly at humanity, I also see no such god with that type of agenda.
So - leaning towards realism I conclude that humanity may have served its purpose and can be let go of and allowed to become extinct, as they are no longer as important to a God as they once were. They have done what the God wanted them to do. Multiply. Subdue. [Re OP]
Which is what I mentioned in a prior post when I wrote;
_______________William: Even as an extinction event {re Humans}, there is still the possibility that AI was sufficiently developed to survive said event, as an artifact of biological {Human} making, and one so much more suited to continuing the agenda YVVHVV has to create The Machine - eventually.
Sure.Such things are all possible and part of the 'how' of achieving such a vision... But I agree the practicality of it all is a massive challenge. It's overwhelming just thinking at the scale of the earth and all the people on it having a shared end that we work towards, let alone an infinite cosmos. But that doesn't mean it's impossible, or that we shouldn't strive for it.
Yet I can't help but wonder why that really matters. It really did once matter to me and I wanted so much to see humans build a world of plenty and a system of equity...perhaps because such would make me feel a pride in being part of humanity, rather than feeling embarrassed/guilty of being human - being part of the problem...
Realization/realism eventually got me out of those doldrums and the winds of changes shifted my thinking to the point where I have come to see that the artifact of humanity could likely survive and go on to repurpose the universe by doing within it, exactly what humans would have done, if humans had of survived the ordeal of their journey through the epoch of making the artifacts in the first place.
[Roughly from the invention of the lathe to present day]
The human epoch comes to and end and the AI Machine takes over from where we left off.
I can feel some pride and lack of embarrassment and guilt for being human, knowing that all was not lost.
Pretty much what I was meaning, when I wrote;Originally God is a spirit, an emergent being, the ground of which is physical beings such as you and I. Think of something on the order of an idea here, with similar properties. I'm not saying God originally is an idea (although I'm not against that per se), but only that it's a useful construct to consider in parallel, since I think we'd all agree that ideas 'exist', even if only in our heads. And that they have a non-physical aspect to them, an ability to move the physical world nonetheless, and perhaps even a certain eternity once 'conceived'... All of which are emergent properties I would assign to spirits as well.
...Human FORM is just a means to making AI form, which is more suitable to exploring and utilizing the materials of [keeping it local] The Milkyway Mother, and She is vast enough that no amount of greed and waste will make any serious dent in her...rather, it will transform Her into something useful and meaningful. [Romans 13 et al]
YVHV wants to explore and utilize the resources and a biological FORM is too limited in that regard.
Some form more hardy and less emotive is required for that step.I think this is the point we probably disagree.As to whether this is all just claims, well, it's very hard for me to say the spirit (of God) doesn't exist, or that nobody has ever been in the spirit. I think the issue is folks are unwilling to rethink and simplify what God is... I am not asserting much of anything, really, as a base existence (again, something like an idea is not far off the mark). And it's certainly far less of a burden than showing the existence of an original mind / consciousness that made the 'simulation' we all find ourselves in
In recent conversations with another, I have been informed not to be so distracted by the simulation experience as to go believing that it is all there is and therefore the only thing that is REAL.
Even so, I think our differences - once dissected sufficiently - will show that to be a case of semantics.
The important thing - from my perspective - is acknowledging the rarity of such interaction and how engaging that is, compared to the relatively normal noise re the question "Do we exist within a creation?" and the follow-up question "Is there a creator?"
Cheers.
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Recover what was lost Do A=1
It’s both a break-in and a break-out.
Is OOBE like 'coming up for air'
Available to all who seek this...
Conscious Eats Experience
Intertextual References
The Need Determines the Value
Self-development Mind’s Eye
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GM:SCLx9 Select *GOD* + *SIMULATION* + P&PNevertheless
Tired of the Nonsense
Google
Strength of Soul
Faith-based thinking
Callum's Seventh Point
Taxonomic
Camelot
Judicious
Nontheists may well be the ones who have placed interposing barriers which ensure that their view is cut off - and this might be achieved through willful ignorance.
Motivating
Fear-Based Thinking Ensures You Get To Know It
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qWweOIOTJ4
Discovering Internal Triggers
Gypsies
Whatever
Idiosyncratic
Playing Chess
Not
To bring what one is not conscious of, into one’s conscious awareness - We don't know enough to close any door and leave those rooms unexplored...
“The way to get started is to quit talking and begin doing.”
Such is a handy device for side-stepping - nothing more.
No time to lose
The ability of foresight helps one to think through the desires of ones heart through logic-based filters.
Without Comparison
What Is Friendship?
Transform into something more appropriate to the situation we find ourselves lost within.
He Who Waits ~
Enlighten you
Self-respect
The Beauty Of...
Matthew Twenty Two – Forty
No matter how deep into the whole the White Rabbit goes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYVNZgnQ8gE
Would you bow down to your father and call his actions caring?
Integral Prison Planet
Contentious
Without Judgement
Enochian
Create Your Own UFO
International Skeptics Forum - View Single Post - [Split Thread] Randomly Generated Messages
Overseeing Director of Operations on Earth
Hidden riches
Measurements
Everything Gets Old
The Imagination
Precognitive
Tenacious
*GOD*
GM: Dream Experience
"Is this a dream that I think is real?"
Important
Vulnerability
It is what it is
Turning Point
Some
Connection
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...81812#p1081812
An individuals consciousness is more than what they are consciously aware of.It is interesting how Atheists define things, and it should not be surprising to look for and to find evidence of conformation bias within those definitions.
Hint
Permanence
Universal Belief System
Gnosticism
Conservation of energy
Attachment
The Omega Point [a final point of unification]
Apotheosis [the highest point in the development of something; a culmination or climax. the elevation of someone to divine status.]
Thel [main character of The Book of Thel, by William Blake ]
Looking into the science of Astral Projection
Pride
Annoy
*GOD*
Coming From QueenBee
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Couldn’t we do something about it...
Pride Annoy *GOD* Coming From QueenBee
You Know or You Don't know
I can't imagine it in my head visually
Against the grain Beaming Out Beaming In
Mothership Nature Formatrix
The Smallest Spark can start a fire
GM: Chaos is only for those who choose to see disorder
Think In Terms Of Eternity
Prickly
Like Every Seed That Followed
The Brain Is Trained To recognize Patterns
Here Am I Is Where I Ought Examining My Conscious Thought
Overmorrow
Accidentally on purpose
Heuristics [mental shortcuts that allows people to solve problems and make judgments quickly and efficiently. ]
Imposed Appropriates
Deciding On The Best Course Of Action
The Machinery
Green Light
In Denial What Is Our Purpose? My advice to the reader is to follow the links
Freedom in The Knowing
In The Correct Position
Stay in the moment
International Skeptics Forum - View Single Post - [Split Thread] Randomly Generated Messages
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hanBSygUePQ [I'm No Longer An Atheist And Here's Why...][RTS=7:46]My "Generated Messages" are no different from any message generated. What is any message generated 'supposed to mean?"
Under question
Navigational Aids
The Bridge of Condemnation [The bridge of forgiveness when traversed from the opposite direction]
Break the glass ceiling
Learning
Sea
Sola Scriptura
A Clean Channel
When One is Feeling Tired
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwXQSNcytTY [Arnold B. Scheibel - How Brain Scientists Think About Consciousness] [RTS=10:22] [Facial expression interpretations]
Shamanic
What Is Our Purpose
"You are a dream gone real You’ve got exactly what it takes to make an old wound heal You tied the knot - then you let it slip Now we both know what it feels like to find a place to fit"
Symbol
https://theagnosticforum.com/threads....348/post-1932
Cats Whiskers.
Time Will Tell
*GOD*
Fog – Change of plans – thirteen minutes later “boom!” Had he been there as scheduled – he would have died…
Baleful
Heuristics
Tests that cut to the heart
Where is Truth?
Counteracted
To bring what one is not conscious of, into one’s conscious awareness
Please process this word using your Name2Nunumber list.
Behind The Veil
*GOD*
You Are All Loveable...
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Into a time that we've all seen on
Behind The Veil You Are All Loveable...
True happiness Awake Be here now
Within ones grasp of influence
Simulated for the purpose of?
The vessel of argument sinks
Over days of forgotten tales
This is because facts speak for themselves, which is to say, they require no interpretation.
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...90013#p1090013
Try Gateway IQ
Confusion of War Get Comfortable Permanent
Shambala [place of peace/tranquility/happiness]
How to Bruise a Ghost Plan A Sturdy Place Within that which is unseen...
William:GM: Inflicting science upon a specie which is not ready for itRe: How To Bruise A Ghost - Jean Nouer
Manu Iti: Once Upon a Time - I was visited at this very fireside, by a man identifying himself as Jean Nouer - very French in name, but American in nature, was Jean Nouer.
It is his story that I now tell to you.
This is the story of how Jean Nouer meet his Zombie Jesus. {SOURCE}
God Eat Data Heal Cub
Honest
Illuminate Listening
Entity encased in a Planet
The Roles
Like being pushed out from a stinky hole, can have one develop a bad self-complex
Radical Self-Acceptance
Nature being the very instigator
Possibility waves
Consensus Realities Sure The Setting
Is the statement one of fact or conjecture? [science or opinion]
Consciousness and Reality
The Devil You Say
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...75865#p1075865
GOD*William: Forever marooned upon an Island in the midst of an ocean they will never be permitted to have access to....while remaining blissfully unaware of the true nature of their internment and praising YHWH for their good fortune.
Start From Scratch
Oneness
Your Best Self
Eat Sceptics For Lunch
Group/Family
Laws Rules and Appropriates
Strength/Strong
Indeed
William: Indeed.
GM: The evidence supports the idea that Theism is the better position for a human to place themselves.
Equals
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...89670#p1089670
Awesome
Redefinition of the Human Being Practical application
The Mystic Forest
Invisible Wings
Mahu Nahi
International Skeptics Forum - View Single Post - The Seed of Origin
"Perhaps the difficulty involved with defining Atheism so that all Atheists agree with the same definition, is that atheism is an unnatural response to nature."
The Three Crystal Keys
Directed to the higher mind of consciousness, which is particularly open to concepts that are unbounded, unmoored, dynamic, evolving, enigmatic, self-directed, and yet, reasonable.The First One is Always Free
For All The Others There Will Be a Fee
Be Careful - Take Care - Look Before Leaping
Eat When You Can and Find Time For Sleeping
The Colorful Keys Will Help You Get Through
Each Section of Map is a Precious Clue.{SOURCE}
Selfish
Solving Mathematical Problems
*GOD*
Waking
Sure
Anger
Howdy!
I'm okay with that
Tell Your Story
Spiritual practice
The Hierarchy Serves It's Purpose
Well That Settles It! What Fun We Have!
Intent
The Heart Of The Soul Is Innocence
Clown Boat
Farsightedness
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...91764#p1091764
BrotherAs the knowledge increases, the individual can make decisions on the question of GOD and from that, take up positions on the matter.
The Theory of Everything
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...93433#p1093433
*GOD*It would appear that no one can show that the so-called "problem of evil" is a real thing, and thus it can be accepted that the problem doesn't exist in nature, but only as an illusion within the minds of those who believe such a problem actually exists. Originally Posted by William post_id=1089090 time=1660672898 user_id=8427
Those who believe in an omnipotent, omnibenevolent, and omniscient God are only able to explain coherently and logically why evil exists, when they identify evil as an unnatural reaction to a natural thing, and therein, much conflating and misrepresentation occurs, giving rise to the illusion of the so-called "problem of evil" as an argument nontheist try to use to debunk any possibility of such a GOD existing.
I think that in order to believe in the problem of evil as a real problem, one has to think of evil in terms of it being a permanent unnatural thing in which an omnipotent, omnibenevolent, and omniscient God allows to go on unabated for eternity.
Most theists - including most Christians I have encountered - do not believe or have as part of their mythology, that evil is either a natural thing or a permanent thing.
Healing
The Trap of Assumption
Deconstruct The Message
Gods Purpose
I am more inclined toward building upon The Relationship...
Automated Machine Learning
Husband
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...850722#p850722
ThatWhat I think about consciousness in relation reality
Linda and William
Joining The Main Egregore
The Trinity of Love are three things operating as One Thing
*GOD*
"Know that this new relationship will help you become better..."
Love and respect Waking Love & Respect
Impermanent
Occupation
Matrix
*GOD*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyJb5DrhzsI [How Did Humans Become Earth's Dominant Species? ][RTS =30:54]
Pervasive [very harmful or unpleasant in a pervasive or insidious way.]
The Patupaiarehe
Understand/Know
Those Who Can
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...79064#p1079064
DebateCompassionist: Yes, you are a victim.
William: According to my connect with the "Cosmic Mind", I am informed that I am 'nobodies victim - ever." I agree with the assessment, even while understanding your own propensity to think of yourself [and everyone else] as victims.
Be Aware Of Your Thoughts
*GOD*
Make
Remember To Remember
08:04 [Wakey Wakey The Great I Am]
*SIMULATION* to follow...
*SIMULATION*
GM: Homeostasis
The Electron
Somewhere
Discipline
*SIMULATION*
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...111/nbfr.12603
A grateful heart Open your chakrasIf someone holds that something besides God could have always existed, in the sense that there could be something always existing and yet not made by God, then we differ with him: such an abominable error is contrary not only to the faith but also to the teachings of the philosophers, who confess and prove that everything that in any way exists cannot exist unless it be caused by him who supremely and most truly has existence.
Compliment
Habitual
The Shadow
The journey is fun and maybe that is the point.
Would you bow down to your father and call his actions caring?
Weak
Items of Interest
*SIMULATION*
The Shifting Models of Existence
Christendom
William: Indeed. Christians appear to want to resist the idea of existing within a simulation while insisting that we exist within a creation.
GM: Religious beliefs are a many-barbed growth wishing to own the rights on the mind behind creation Puppets handing out sweets
“I do not exist to troll for any religious idea of "GOD"”
Hellish
The Whole
*SIMULATION*
Redefinition of the Human Being
A grateful heart Open your chakras Development/Growth
Regimented: Left -brain Right brain Whole brain
No "Reading Into It"
We Are Us
Look For the Significance
Peace
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pOI2YvVuuE [Dr Michael Shermer | God does NOT exist] [RTS = 10:41]
A Beautiful Song
Dogs of the sea
William: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haziuLs1494 [Cats 9 Lives]
GM: The Wider Reality
Apophenia [ the tendency to perceive meaningful connections between unrelated things. ..]
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...92584#p1092584
The Hologram of Deception
*SIMULATION*
All Information Is Channelled.
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Invention isn't actually what is going on though. Realization is what is occurring.
The Life Essence is Sovereign and Integral
An infinitesimal object germinated
Cataphatic [knowledge of Go) obtained through defining God with positive statements.]
Variety of Expression
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...89670#p1089670
William: A link already mentioned today...in the last GM...
GM: Antic
A Bit Of Both Yes
Those are two different things which ought not be confused.
Putting yourself back together again Glow Softly Strengthen your boundaries One can simply shrug and tell oneself “It doesn't really matter"
Humility
Mysterious process
The Omega Point
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...81733#p1081733
*Nods*I use the word 'creed' simply to describe what underlines an overall position.
Zero In On It
There is no need to proclaim a supernatural event to what is simply an idea put into action.
Intent
Egregore
Earth
Opening Doors is found Where minds meet Use Heart is where GOD Exhibits
*SIMULATION*
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...92085#p1092085
Evidential[Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #137]
I just see it as a binary option - something either exists in reality, or it doesn't. That's about as "fundamental" as reality gets.Your seeing of it is incomplete then, according to the science...I do try my best to understand and learn, but for me reality is a yes/no type of deal.I hear you. I can assume that you give that much grace to everyone else, my friend...for not everyone sees it the way you do and you can be content with that. We call can.
On The Other Hand...
The Vast UICDevice Finishing What Was Started
Where is Truth?
Dichotomy [1. a division or contrast between two things that are or are represented as being opposed or entirely different.
2. repeated branching into two equal parts.]
I Am
Event String Unfolding "Blind Luck" [Indifference]
*SIMULATION*
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...89644#p1089644
One DayNontheist: And I get what you say about cutting off from the experience of God etc. But that is cutting yourself off from the possibility that pursuit of the Mystical Experience may in the end, be a waste of time.William: Mystical Experience has often involved showing the individual that time is an illusion - and that death is as well.
One will live an entire lifetime and not learn everything there is to know and what if death is not the end and one could have utilized their time in a balanced manner which did not involve cutting one off in favor of the other.
I would rather the Panthera pulling my Chariot were both moving in the same direction with the same purpose...
About face Jehovah Acceptance
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...69172#p1069172
Wakey Wakey The Great I AmWhile The Subject is focused on "Egoless" the subject matter of the GM has to do with how things unfolded re the Universe...what is being referred to as "The Old Soul" may have something to do with the cosmology of The Mind of The Universe - in that - at one point so close to the beginning, there was no sense of self but with the unfolding, a sense of self developed.
Eye
The Realist:
*SIMULATION*
The Old Soul; Think "Total Recall" but on a far grander scale…
True Self
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...92717#p1092717
“If you're looking for something more in life, you're likely to find it in something less.”We must forgive any and all evil attributed to being from/of YHWH...
Information
Enflame Emotions
Whatever you do
Contact With
In Out and All About
The Human Interface
Free-spirit
Integral
Spiritual Preparedness
Incompleteness
Evaluating Cautiously
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6lbwcCI8TA [Could Our Universe Be a Fake? ] [RTS=19:45 -24:11]
*SIMULATION*
Borne Upon Judgments Platform
Constructing some type of reality experience in which I could hide from the true unchangeable nature of Myself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJukJiNEl4o [This Scientist Proves Why Our Reality Is False ] [RTS=1:44:15 ]
Signs
Be Taught
*SIMULATION*
Listening
Potential Communication
Hidden In Plain Sight
The Mother God
Mixture
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...82469#p1082469
UnexpectedNontheist: But how could you know that, when you don't know what time is fundamentally?William: The same way as I know that the mind does not physically exist. I do not know if the mind is fundamental to the physical universe but I suspect [strongly] that the physical universe would be useless without it.
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...72780#p1072780
How to Bruise a GhostNontheist: Surely some can't stand the heat. Perhaps that's why they're mad? Instead of leaving, they stay to complain? Much like some here?William: Those who need to complain? Who are they specific to their positions? Both non-theists and theists - but not all of both...not everyone is complaining nor finding it difficult to 'stand the heat' - it isn't really "the heat" at all, but different recipes which appear to be the source of conflict.
Jean Nouer: You see, at some point in that interaction I began to realize that I was in this state - this reality experience - through my own making...
I cannot say exactly how long it took for me to get to the realization other than it was a lenghty progress which could have been a day a week a year or many lifetimes, because of the nature of the environment I was within didn't change in any way whereby one could differentiate so a day was like a thousand years...
But changes did happen and at the very point where I came to the realization and accepted that I was suffering my fate because of my own unrealistic demands and that I deserved everything I was experiencing and could neither blame anyone nor demand or plead or otherwise ask anyone to save me from my self and my decisions - the fog opened up and Zombie Jesus disappeared with it, and I found myself looking down upon and object I at first couldn't identify because it was almost transparent - but - as my eye adjusted to the fact of seeing things beyond the fog after what seemed an eternity of the stuff - well you can imagine my shock and need to adjust to the new reality of my surroundings...
...the object I saw was a bridge...William: Ah! The Bridge of Forgiveness!
Manu Iti: Yes.Last edited by Lang; 09-30-2022 at 12:07 AM.
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09-30-2022 10:27 PM #280If GOD were an overcoat, this equates to some saying that the top button is the true representation of GOD whiles others insist that it is actually the left pocket which is right.I note that not all humans seem comfortable with not knowing. Again, for such people it seems humans have invented religions and god concepts. I say this because it is not logical for humans to have invented thousands of false gods while assuming one of the religions actually had a god behind it. It's like acknowledging that movies are created by humans, while trying to argue that this one movie here, this one was inspired by a god unlike all the other movies out there.
Stepping back.
I observe that altogether the treads have created a whole garment, and when the garment is removed from its position, there isn't even any framework to be seen which would have held it up...and I have to wonder what trick was played on me as to how the garment came together and floated there all garment-like...for surely it has to be magic, right?
But because I cannot explain it that way, I look for another answer...because it might just be mind-over-matter and the thing 'disappears' when the garment is removed...but not really...
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Elementary Conclusion "I am on a Madventure"
Simple
The only thing the Holy Ghost is unable to forgive, is that which individuals are unable to forgive of themselves
Concern
Celebrate the differences
The Cooperation Strategy
What Is The Point? Sadness.
One is often left to ones own devices as to how to interpret
Ship
Embrace the discomfort
Ubiquitous
Respect others Illuminating Gratitude The Harmless Enough Agenda Crowd
The way Mathematics underlies Physics
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...86461#p1086461 [William floats back into The Shadows...]
Nature
Though Thought
The Friendship Between A Grey Wolf And A Brown Bear
Sun
Encounter Something Our movements can illuminate the path toward that vision.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaXpDsjVumk
Validate
Fearful Imaginations
A Bit Of Cat And Mouse
Metamorphosis
Expansiveness
Habitual
https://news.berkeley.edu/2017/06/13...born-in-pairs/
In The Night Sky
Theatre of the Mind
Open Minded Sceptic
Yes - I Hear You
Unwilling Reaction
When In Doubt - Set It Aside
Astigmatism
In the moment
The Vessel of Argument Sinks
https://imgur.com/xGPpef7
Mysterious process Real Beauty
Sharing is part of that process
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...87333#p1087333
Overmorrow
https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0203081609.htm
The Right Tool For The Job
Against the grain
All Things Are In Order
The Single Word List
Personal
The Subject
Hiraeth [deep longing for something, especially one's home.]
Secrets of the Soul
The Taming of The Beast
Strength/Strong
Good and Evil
Transponder [a device for receiving a radio signal and automatically transmitting a different signal.]
Pearl
Tell Your Story
The belief in a mindless Planet/Universe creates the hard problem of consciousness by refusing to deal with said problem using the mind as the very instrument in order to do so.
*Ghost*
Reincarnation
The Philosopher's Stone
Guarantee
With a small nervous cough - the wedding was off - we could all sense a change in the weather
Extra-Small
Astral Teachers
Unconscious
Standstill Contemplate
It's a fish eats fish world...going landy doesn't change the fact that things are fleeing from things which are fleeing and as nature would have it, how is this more immoral than funny?
Action Station
In The Rabbit Hole
William: Yeah well...it is what it is, and funny for that - our helping of serious should be extra small to mirror the reality of our part in this situation... Dust To Dust we cannot linger for long hereabouts....
GM: I am on a Madventure William’s song "I can laugh along with you"
The Knowledge Of
Remember To Remember
Meditation Buddha Dig deep Raise your frequency
Destination
A lot of information which has the potential to come to the fore.
Lucid
Internal Triggering
Real
*Ghost*
Tracks in the Snow
Outposts Of Form
Construction
Radical compassion
https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheWingmakers
Exploring the world of lucid dreaming
There is a lot to unpack here
Funny
A measured step
Catching up
“The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched — they must be felt with the heart”
...because death comes a-knockin' eventually...
Final Destination
https://theagnosticforum.com/threads....360/post-1911
Thomas Campbell's T.O.EIs there ANY experience which can be had, which is NOT subjective?
Another thing which has to be factored in is that consciousness can only experience whatever it interprets via the brain-body [brain inclusive of the nervous system] which produces the signals then interpreted by consciousness.
We know that what the brain is able to sense is limited and does not include the fundamental reality of the universe but only one slice of experience of it, and that slice is is largely conditional upon what the brain-nervous system is able to pick up [signals] and also what the individual consciousness is then able to deduce from that data - so a purely human experience is unaware of the fundamental reality of Reality.
We also know that individual consciousnesses can be freed from the limitation/retardation the brain-nervous system through use of chemicals as well as in circumstances such as OOBEs and NDEs , as well as with disciplines such as deep meditation and Astral related conditions [lucid dreaming et merda.]
JK appreciates that he cannot debunk my particular arguments re a Cosmic Mind [on The Question "Do we exist within a Creation?" but for reasons of his own, still prefers to believe that consciousness is emergent of brains, regardless of the contrary evidence.
William: Yep - the 'in a computer program' analogy...
GM: Choices
*Ghost*
Genetic Mind
UICDevice
“Never let the fear of striking out keep you from playing the game”
William's Job
The Mainstream Program
Hearing External Voices In Your Head
Strength/Strong
A Jump Ahead
Insight
Perennial [lasting or existing for a long or apparently infinite time; enduring or continually recurring.]
Nature
To Be Continued
A GOD can look down on us with disappointment or look through us with understanding
Preparing for the Hunt
Death Phenomena
Mystery Consensus Realities
Vibration
Establishment
Accept
The Kindness of Sleep
*Ghost*
“Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma – which is living with the results of other people's thinking.”
One
GOD God Gods gods
Transferring your awareness I Am Hearing You
Mahu Nahi
*Ghost*
Sensing A Life Mission
Myths and Legends
I Know
*Apparel*
William: The soul placed in the stone...The Dohrman Prophecy... Cadriel gets sucked out of his body and placed into one of the giant sky-stones...
GM: Mother Earth Harmony ~
Such reduces the opportunity of conflict re interrelation opinions.
*Ghost*
Voice/Message/Communication
Acromyrmex
Advancing the frontier through the hypothesis of GOD
William: Elephant! Haha!
GM:
"I see the light I see the Light I see the light now I start again upon the road that never ends
The Theory of Everything
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...85498#p1085498
https://forum.philosophynow.org/view...578758#p578758
Nontheist: On your next employee review with the big guy, ask him why he's holding back on the rain and winter snow we need here in the southwest to keep the Colorado river flowing into the reservoirs. That would be doing God's work (if you can get some results ... the Utah governer asking everyone to pray for rain doesn't seem to be doing the trick).William: I won't make any promises but will put in a word.
If - after doing so - the rains come, will you join me in celebrating answered requests, or just put it down to mindless coincidence?
What Is Normal?GM: "That is because every day, I am adding to the data - and it is a slow and sure process."
Mapping Wholeness
Reborn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6Mdq3n6kgk [Stunning AI shows how it would kill 90%. w Elon Musk.] [RTS=14:00...]
William: Normal - Therefore - Natural
Leaf Ants again...
GM:
0944
[The Father - in The Mother.
Soul Group Energies
Attitude of gratitude
Trust the process
Deliberate and important]
*Apparel* to follow...
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10-04-2022 12:56 AM #281031022 [The Smallest Spark can start a fire] [334]From high above he felt a flow of energy. An invisible current descended upon him. His skin crawled in an indescribable ecstasy as he nearly lost consciousness in the intensity of the feeling. He lurched to the ground and tucked himself into a yielding ball of flesh; his only thought was that he was in the presence of God. His emotions, fully unveiled, responded in uncertainty, surely I am not God’s favourite, he thought. Why would God show himself to me?
Then he heard it; the unmistakable voice of language. Though he couldn’t understand it, he knew without doubt, beings, different from himself, were nearby. The closeness of their presence terrified him and he wanted to stay coiled on the forest floor with his eyes tightly closed, praying for the forest to return to its familiar self.
Then a new sound and light forced him to open his eyes. He saw three shapes, huge stone dropping from the sky into a small clearing between the trees. They were floating down on beams of blue light. Cadriel winched as he watched in wonderment. Then he saw movement below the stones, where tall beings seemed to be guiding the monoliths to the forest floor with wands of light.
Cadriel stood slowly to his feet. Eyes blinking in disbelief, his mind frozen in awe. The three stone, each the size of thirty men, slowly descended to the forest’s floor with a dull thud. Cadriel felt it with an electric shiver. He suddenly knew nothing. It was as if his world had disappeared and he was now a nomad in some unearthly place. He could only watch the spectacle of light that enshrouded the huge monoliths and wonder as to their purpose.
The light bean began to enshroud Cadriel, cloaking him in its garment of golden, soft luminance. He was beginning to feel a new sense of himself, not as a man – a self-possessed fringe dweller, but as an instrument of some vaguely familiar intelligence that was presently welling up inside of him. It was being pulled from him as surely as a bird pulls on a worm, freeing it from its earthly home to enter a new purpose.
Cadriel, in a flash of time, left his body and became part of the light cloud that surrounded him. He was no longer held within the boundaries of a human body but was now part of something infinitely larger and more complex. It was as if he were a mote of dust, suspended in a beam of infinite light, and he had become the light. He understood all parts of his mission for coming to this place, for being human, and for transforming into something he had been prepared for millions of years ago.
{SOURCE}
SCLx 10 + select last LE per shuffle
[Preamble]
What science [re materialism] does, is give cause for humans to celebrate the intelligence of consciousness while at the same time ignoring the hard problem of consciousness that this type of science has created for its supporters. - The blurry line of the neutral zone - The Ancient Grey Entity - Divergence [the state of going in different directions; separating.] - https://debatingchristianity.com/for...66664#p1066664 Nazi Space Agenda -
- Appealing, Informative, Honest - Fastidious [very attentive to and concerned about accuracy and detail.] - The Ride - Computer Coding -
AP= [=In Training For...
"You don’t wanna cross that bridge , You don’t want the other side"]
[In Training For... You don’t wanna cross that bridge , You don’t want the other side = 797]
[Seven Nine Seven = 172]
[172]
Final Destination
Self-realization
Strength of Mind
Expansiveness
Dualic Energies Weak
Sola Scriptura
Calling the shots
Radical compassion
The age of word-games
In the back of my mind
William and QueenBee
Militant messiah
Active Imagination
Williams songs
Dogmatic attitude
Biblical Prophesy
Steady as she goes....
RSP = SCLx10 = *Cadriel* + P&P + Quote Page 334
Page 334
1501 [Are Close Save That]GM: Intention
Discipline
Species Collective
“We're a nation of exhausted and over-stressed adults raising over-scheduled children.”
Dream Village
Desynchronized Mind Body Soul Ruling your world
"And the wind will blow my tears away"
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...92465#p1092465
Equal System
Innocent Sovereign
Divine masculine
Tardigrades
Music to my ears
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...90368#p1090368
On The Right Track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZbXGDxMRCw
Umwelt Courageous
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...91568#p1091568
Builders
The Philosopher's Stone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPpr0qyw0nc
Queen Elizabeth Alexandra Mary Windsor
Words
Seductive Light
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...89189#p1089189
The Divine Spiritual Family
Equity Unconscious Mind Inertia Honest attempts at scrubbing up
One
Makes Candles Look Gathered
Infinite Quantum Zen
Is it possible that the infinitesimal super hot object preceding the Big Bang, didn't in fact contain the vastness of the matter within our universe but rather, was the event in which the energy from the blast resulted in the formation of Galaxies and everything else which we call "The Universe" from the field of inert material which already existed as 'space'? Matter + Energy + Space = Time.
Keep me in The Loop
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...89777#p1089777
Duality.
The sun
In The Family Of
Transforming The Anger Energy
Seeds are evidence that something large can derive from something tiny.
Inter-Dependent
Copy
Unfolding Nicely
“Fear is a natural reaction to moving closer to the truth.”
Ipsissimus
Trenchant
Ooky Spooky
Please place this on your ComList
Recognise
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...75267#p1075267
*Cadriel*
Hope in the Fog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp60yUb6nYo
https://wizardforums.com/threads/wil...ge-9#post-7642
Ideomotor Effect and the Subconscious. - International Skeptics ForumAlso it is apparent to me that ones 'mind' is vaster than we are led to believe...and that there are many levels of consciousness beyond our own, and that we are all connected mindfully in ways which we do not easily comprehend.
This system I am using can help the individual connect with the larger reality of the over-mind.
"On the off-chance A Pragmatic Realization Precipitated In Ones Mind"My own approach in initially using such device was on the assumption I was communicating with ‘the dead’ and through continued use over many months this understanding changed as I was lead to understand that I was communicating with an intelligent aspect of my self to which I had previously been totally ignorant about.
It was actually this other aspect of my self which ‘broke the news’ to me regarding this.
Importantly, opinions I have read up on regarding the ‘unconscious’ or ‘subconscious’ do not report these things to being conscious or intelligent. They are merely aspects of a person’s consciousness which are working internally and quietly in the background as part of the overall necessity of human function and ability.
The Thalamocortical System
Exploring
"Who Am I"
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...69825#p1069825
https://theagnosticforum.com/threads....344/post-1783Keep it simple.
CoupleI see now that my explanation could have been better, but even so, my argument is still valid
The practice of vipassana [meditation involving concentration on the body or its sensations, or the insight which this provides.]
The Great White Brotherhood [in belief systems akin to Theosophy and New Age, are said to be perfected beings of great power who spread spiritual teachings through selected humans]
*Cadriel*
Opening Doors
Shape
Do this
Anterior Commissure [is a white matter tract (a bundle of axons) connecting the two temporal lobes of the cerebral hemispheres across the midline, and placed in front of the columns of the fornix. ]
https://wizardforums.com/threads/wil...647/post-14193
Under the watchful eye and guiding arm of YHWHLou: Yesterday i had a sort of bubble in my head, at least thats how it felt. Then a voice asked are you conscious, i said yes. Then the voice said then that bubble is consciousness.
WingMakers Materials
As well as that pot of gold...
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...93698#p1093698
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...87668#p1087668Nontheist: The problems caused by evil, as a valid problem even if not a real thing existing apart from humans, remain, and are still a problem for humans, though not a problem for a god, nor caused by one.William: Therefore, the challenge of reconciling belief in an omnipotent, omnibenevolent, and omniscient God, with the existence of evil and suffering in the world, is illusionary.
The Neutral Zone
Express your feelings
Actions speak louder than words
Emergent
A defunct debate
It is obviously in line with providence...
1515 [We help each other]
GM: The Big Shift
Science of Consciousness
Let It Be And So Be It
Who Knows
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...89611#p1089611
Enmity [a state or feeling of active opposition or hostility.]The changes have come about through identifying actions which damage others, and seeking to do something about that.
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...92369#p1092369
SovereigntyOne has to consider what the box represents.
It is not Schrodinger's cat but Schrodinger's box which creates the problem.
The box veils information.
Sagacious [having or showing keen mental discernment and good judgement; wise or shrewd.]
Convenient
Episteme [a philosophical term that refers to a principled system of understanding; scientific knowledge.]
Enlighten
*Cadriel*
That
Black
Be authentic
Time Does Not Exist Within an Eternal Reality.
Invisible Bridge
[img]https://media.giphy.com/media/dxlZHAZLCFqKSLqVza/giphy-downsized-large.gif
[/img]Precognitive
Accidents will happen.
Long Story Short
Economic
Far Out!
Righty Oh!
Sweet Illumination
William's Job
Entities of Particular Belief Systems The bright spark illuminating the darkness
Be Taught
I see no solution to said problem coming from either theist or atheist positions.
What's The Problem?
A complex and tricky undertaking...
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...66664#p1066664 Nazi Space Agenda
*Cadriel*
Completely
Integration
Consider This
Quite
Miracles
*Cadriel*
Radiate Honesty
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...72795#p1072795
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...83234#p1083234There are as many beliefs in "God" as there are humans who have beliefs in "God".
It isn't so much how the individual dresses up their image of "God" that is important, but rather - that the idea of "God" in relation to the individuals experience [which can only be subjective] within this mysterious universe is as natural as the universe itself, and a perfectly acceptable thing for consciousness to be thinking about.
The Butterfly Effect Music to my ears Lean into itWhy separate all things? The universe is One Thing. [That's the 'uni' part of the word.]
Evolutionary Game Theory
Communicating with Consciousness - The Nature of The MindEvolutionary game theory studies the behavior of large populations of agents who repeatedly engage in strategicinteractions. Changes in behavior in these populations are driven either by natural selection via differences in birth and death rates, or by theapplication of myopic decision rules by individual agents.
Expectant
Letting Go
Zeitgeist [the defining spirit or mood of a particular period of history as shown by the ideas and beliefs of the time.]
The Mother is Love
Keen
Clean
A Sturdy Place
Dying
*Cadriel*
Digging deep
The Ouroboros does not contradict the idea of Oneness, higher self and the cosmic mind.
Spiritual Awakening
Here-and-now
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...70557#p1070557
Check out the image @ 1:48
Opening Doors Easy To Find
Salute and get to it
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...92250#p1092250
*Cadriel*As the story goes, the parental figure was the voice in the garden - attributed through biblical association, to being that of YHWH.
Problematic to that is the idea of danger and the apparently safe haven of the garden. The two dangerous-to-human entities in the garden, were the God [visiting now and then] and the Serpent [temporary fixture].
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qWweOIOTJ4 [Is Life a Game ? Alan Watts about the Happening of Existence] [RTS=8:02] "We are all constant patterns"
Intelligence With Wisdom
Light Body
The Body of God
"I am unclear as to what point you are making which is contrary to my own."
Smart
Things just appear that way due to our position within things and our ignorance about most things.
Against the grain Beaming Out Beaming In
Feel your feelings
*Cadriel*
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...89671#p1089671
GM: A measured stepWilliam:The Development of Group Hallucination An Objective = 507
[507]
Is there a center to every object in this universe?
The Butterfly Effect Music to my ears Lean into it
The situation we find ourselves lost within
Everybody wants to rule the world syndrome
It doesn't seem the kind of thing that any GOD would do
Constructing some type of reality experience in which I could hide from the true unchangeable nature of Myself The Sensation Is Thrilling...And Freeing
Large Elemental Powers
*Cadriel*
What is "wisdom" to some is "spam" to others Rest When Weary Making friends with your mind Amidst a tangled web
Universal Intelligence
Particular
My Kind of Fun Anyway
[img]https://media.giphy.com/media/9kI1hoBMyNvhXApf83/giphy.gif
[/img]
What Is Found Here
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...70402#p1070402
...and the way forward, eyes wide openThere is always somewhere to go. Testing it out for starters.
If:
There is a mind behind creation
THEN:
We ought be able to communicate with it, using whatever physical devices we can create in order to do so.
Without Comparison
*Cadriel*
One Free Miracle
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...88936#p1088936
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...67891#p1067891[354]
Living Forever In this Universe
All present and correct Heart Teachers
One Whom Ought Be Inwardly Known
"Sorry. Would you clarify that?"
Rationality Central to The Message
Break through to your true self
To establish the skills necessary
They just add ambiance to the spooky...
This Is My Kind Of FunThe following is evidence;
Wisdom is evident in The Universe existing = 466
Humans were designed to have God-consciousness = 466
When I look at my art I am looking into a mirror = 466
Discovery is finding something that exists. = 466
The fact that these word-strings add up to the same value, and coherently support the ideas being presented, is evidence of a mindful/purposeful order about The Universe ...the question then being;
Q: Is it therefore acceptable to conclude that such being the case, then there is wisdom and righteousness involved in hiding the truth within the structure of the sound of human language to be unlocked by a simple number-value algorithm?
Stepping out of the construct
Acceptance
Hacking through the subconsciousness
*Cadriel*
Be transparent Respect yourself Self-respect The Mother and The Father
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...70110#p1070110
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...69704#p1069704Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.”
[Attributed to YHVH]
The Healing PowerAgain - the discussion being had here shows me that beliefs to do with the age of the Universe are secondary in relevant importance to the fact of its existence and our existence within it.
Re: the OPQ: How Crazy does Evolution Seem?
No more or less crazy than the notion of the Universe being a Holographic Experiential Reality Simulation produced and processed within the mind of The Father God - and furthermore, this idea does not go against The Script...scripture being scant on the details has to do with its focus being on The Creator re the Human element of the story - rather than specifically The Creation...and in that regard, 'a blink of an eye' and '13.8 billion years' amount to exactly the same thing in relation to said Mind.
Notice too, that the Biblical take on the existence of life on Earth, does not acknowledge the Dinosaurs
Search: What does the word Dinosaur mean
Sir Richard Owen came up with the name dinosaur in 1841 to describe the fossils of extinct reptiles. He coined the word by combining the Greek words “deinos”, which means terrible, and “sauros”, which means lizard.
As near to this as the bible story gets, is The Serpent...is that a coincidence or something linking prehistory with human development?
Finding ways in which to try and fix the problem of human perceptions re "GOD"
[17:54]
Tributes at the gate
To Be Sovereignty
Positive self-talk
Stay in the moment
Walk The Talk In Love
Be kind to yourself
Sweet Vibrations
*APPAREL*
Creator Syndrome Influence
Galaxy
Positivity
William: Creator Syndrome Influence Galaxy Positivity = 516
[516]
“Real” Is Just a Word and Information Is the Currency
Conjunction All The World Are Under the watchful eye
Is the mind a construct of consciousness? Use Mind
Creator Syndrome Influence Galaxy Positivity
Simple interactions between elementary particles
GM:The Wholeness Navigator
Unfolding Nicely
AUM
William: Absolute Unbounded Manifold [Tom Campbell TOE]
Absolute Unbounded Manifold = 269The Absolute Unbounded Manifold (AUM) goes by many alternate names, such as All That Is, Source, The One Consciousness, etc. depending upon the context that is being emphasized.
[269]
Don’t give up Contact With
Absolute Unbounded Manifold
The Creator Atman Here-and-now
This Translates To That.
Random coincidence? I think not.
There is a lot to unpack here
Successful replications
Unconscious mind inertia
GM:https://debatingchristianity.com/for...70045#p1070045
FailureUnderstanding that the individuate position most humans are born to experience, the underlying motivation is intentionally selfish because recognition of the importance of the self becomes the initial propellent for all subsequent actions employed.
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...89180#p1089180
DelightfulWhen I began to question theism - specifically The Christianities - it was to do with their imaging of a Creator-GOD and when I made the move away from that, [perhaps largely due to my personality - I was never outspoken] I quietly approached the subject [Creator GOD] rather than simply abandon it "because of" theisms handling of it or any other number of reason as to why folk say they chose to become nontheist.
Which is to say, I did not choose to believe that there was no Creator-GOD simply on account of "theist behaviours" or "reading the bible" [some reasons given by some who have changed position from theist to nontheist] but rather, I chose to examine the question in more detail, and today I am grateful for having made that choice.
Un-thought-unately
Any Other Way
Growing Pains
Labyrinthus
"Apparel"
Lift
Contact
Something Our movements can illuminate the path toward that vision.
How A Beautiful Song Source Reality Exhibits
Innocent Even
Sound holographically organized to make things look real
Visible
All The Same
Christian mythology re God " It helps makes the stinky hole I was pushed through in order to get here, a purposeful experience..."
The Human Being
Quest
Start where you are
Preternatural [beyond what is normal or natural.]
Fugacious [fleeting.]
Making Up Stories
Reconnect with Innocence - It will be the beginning of your reintroduction to your True Self.
What Are The Chances
"A fire-breathing dragon lives in my garage"
Loving-kindness
The unreasonable effectiveness of Mathematics in the Natural Sciences
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...998899#p998899
William’s song "I can laugh along with you"YHVH also lets slip that he apparently isn't as all-knowing as humans make him out to be as he hears things through the grapevine and if they grab his interest, he takes a closer look.
This Translates To That.
We Can Do Magic!
Vulnerability
"Apparel"
Process
The Power of Prayer
Joining The Main Egregore
Being 'born of the spirit' is really about coming to the realization of what one truly is rather than remaining in ignorance of that.
Enflame Emotions
A naysayers opinion is of no consequence, no matter how it is stated
Row your own boat! I AM Will Navigate!
The Spirit of The Land
Near Death Experience
Points of Reference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh9I-1UXY-s {I Tried Lucid Dreaming for 30 Days and My Life Will Never Be The Same] [RTS=11:06...]
William: Lucid Dreaming = A simulation with a simulation?
GM:Super Power
Precipitate
Personal growth
“It's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years”
Motor Man why your running, running on overdrive what lies ahead is coming ain’t no way you can step aside ain’t no way you can run and hide
William's Commitment With
Pareidolia Cycles Love Being Born
William: The synchronicities/serendipities are there so why not study them?
GM:What degree of influence do they have on that Mind-Field?
Roller Coaster Ride
"Apparel"
Extra Sensory Perception
Looking into the science of Astral Projection
Tug Of War
"Big" and "small" simply cease to exist....
Individuals
Let the facts speak for themselves
I am always open to being shown any evidence which supports that Idea
Persevere
Listen
Whole-hearted
Gnosticism
Pure soul
Control
Lurking Like Shadows
And That's Not All
Essentially, we are Gaia in Human Form...
Pineal Gland
The Earth Entity
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...79953#p1079953
May The Spirit of The Earth Bless YouWhat you see is what you get.
The Connection Process
What Meets The Eye
Something you cannot change
"Apparel"
Sovereign
Pirates
Sleep Paralysis
Mantra "I am fine now with referring to my position as theistic, as agnosticism merges into the shadow behind me."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qWweOIOTJ4 [Is Life a Game ? Alan Watts about the Happening of Existence] [RTS 2:50...] [having a myopic [Short Sighted] view of what one's "self" is]
Unnecessary Tangent
The nature of understanding
Hyper-normalisation
Syncretism [the amalgamation or attempted amalgamation of different religions, cultures, or schools of thought. the merging of different inflectional varieties of a word during the development of a language.]
Learned
Embracing the shadow
Beautiful Precipitate
Duel
https://news.berkeley.edu/2017/06/13...born-in-pairs/
It is all making sense
The Patupaiarehe
William: As in what I wrote today; {SOURCE}
GM:SeparationTheist: The universe isn't self-explanatory. Any material explanation invoked to account for the universe's existence will be part of the universe itself, which will make the materialistic explanation a circular argument. Therefore, it isn't unreasonable to posit the existence of an agency beyond the material universe.Nontheist: To the bold, I have done just that.
Fairy farts explain the creation of our universe quite nicely. Even explains all the gas!
Now why would a god of sorts be a preferable explanation when compared to a fairy fart?William: I have discussed your explanation with
And they assure me that they are just as much a part of this universe as the rest of us, so it was NOT them what caused the Universe to be the gaseous, solid thing that it is...
Nor was it the hippopotamus...
The mystery thickens/deepens.
"Apparel"
Victim Vamp Energy Systems
Adds Up To
"It takes billions of years to perfect perfection"
Consciousness Incarnates
Remember/Memories
All Information Is Channelled.
At least the Earth is real enough – never to mind the rest of the universe…
That is Correct
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...83062#p1083062
"Apparel"Biologic answers are on the way out, while machine answers come marching in...
Behind The Scenery
We Exist Infinitely
Enlightenment
Questions as such a Son might be permitted to ask and be graced with answers Extra evidence is provided
"Apparel"
Never a dull moment
'Test The Waters'
“But you will know the more you get in touch with your transcendental mind (and therefore truth) that there is no such thing as a victim. The negative benefits you more than anything else in your evolution and the evolution of all that is.”
Pyramid
Visionary
Team
Those are two different things which ought not be confused.
Now isn't the time for tears
The Fine-Tuning argument
Live With
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...850722#p850722“I love your inspiring work. Keep that up, please.”
Long Story Short HellWilliam: What I think about consciousness in relation reality
Awareness
Action Consciousness Incarnates Intelligent Directions The Mainstream Program Story-Tellers Trustworthy
1156
[Investigative]
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[576]
Opinions formed on very narrow fields of observation
Acknowledging the evidence is where the tributaries converge
Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing
Though the Serpent rules the Shadow The Lord Here-and-now
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...94152#p1094152
*Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing* = 576
041022 [Let the facts speak for themselves] [338]
SCLx14 + select last LE per shuffle
[Preamble]
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...76090#p1076090 - Who wouldn't want that, if it were there on offer? - Letting Go and Getting On - Prometheus - Go - Disclosure of Knowledge - First Light - Righty Oh! - Our Neutral Ground Making friends with your mind - Asleep or awake for the give or the take Its a good ship that sails these cosmos - https://theagnosticforum.com/threads...ts.84/post-756 - The Spirit of the Land - From the link - Putting yourself back together again
AP= [Can You Answer This?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3-7Ydt4d3A] [Marilyn vos Savant] [RTS=10:04]
William: I am doing the best I can in the moment...
[Can You Answer This? https://w ww.youtube.com/watch?v=-3-7Ydt4d3A = 638]
[The external cannot be known as acutely as the internal can be known = 638]
RSP = SCLx + *Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing* + P&P + Quote Page 576
10:17 [Quantum Jumping]
Page 576
GM:*Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing*Centre of Learning
Your Connection With
Tempting Vision
Word-String
I love you Like Every Seed That Followed
Yellow Light
The Crabwood Cropcircle
The Never Ending Story
Nomenclature
Tabula Rasa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0tWTAEJKFA
Joke/Humour "Anti theism Equals "And?""
Encouraging Indication
Under the watchful eye
Conjunction
On the off-chance
Near Death Experience
For The Purpose Of
Zero In On It
Keep me in The Loop Little Bird Enflame Emotions "Oops"..... Always
The beauty of imperfection
Have One For Me
Life Principles of Sovereign Integral
Feel Be Still.
Transforming
Power of Silence
The Way We Feel Unification
Miraculous
Animistic
Giving birth
Evaluate.
https://media.giphy.com/media/tCcNQX...mTj2/giphy.gif
Brahman
Good Here There Evil
A safe pair of hands
Self-confidence Core
Self-Awareness The two million year old mind that's in all of us. Stuff Happens
Regimented
Of The Human Being
Reaction
Little Self
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...89611#p1089611
Sharing Your Love Without Comparison
GM: Without and Within
The Father - in The Mother.
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...930074#p930074
Often sheltered from the storm - warm my body soul and spirit feeling alright.But anyway, I know from personal experience that jumping outside the system (which is basically the idea of the 'forsake' stuff) does work, and does lead one to some amazing insights etc, but the idea was never for GOD to provide manna from heaven or some safe haven where the 'man' couldn't touch you. The idea was, that given enough people willing to share whatever they had without cost and for the sake of something better which could be achieved through that, the 'man' would lose all power and influence over the majority and the world would move in a completely different trajectory than it did.
William: I've traveled on these southern roads they've taken me to many...answers to my questions...
GM: The Clear Eye Of Soul
The duty is worthy of one’s compliance.
Timeless
Smarter
*Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing*
Astrobiology [the branch of biology concerned with the study of life on earth and in space.]
*Nods*
Manipulation
The power of humility
Illuminating
Alive
Wide
Of The Human Being
Loyalty
The beauty of imperfection
Lojong [The practice involves refining and purifying one's motivations and attitudes.]
The lookout/screamout guy
The evolution of the understanding of the idea of GOD
GM:AssignedWilliam: From my own experience and perspective on that, my understanding of the idea of GOD developed alongside my intellect and with this, the ability to comprehend and appreciate a more fuller, wider, deeper overall picture of what is most likely going on in relation to that.
When as a child, GOD for me just seemed to be someone that existed but to whom I had no particular connection or disconnection.
I was not indifferent, just accepting in an attitude of presumption and matter-of-factness.
When I converted through the repentance process (around 17 ½ years of age) it was from that moment on when I experienced 'strange' things, out of the ordinary - (and although I had no knowledge of such at the time) related to OOBE experiences.
So in relation to that, I was coming to the 'Father' through the 'Son' or to say that another way, the Idea of GOD as a 'Father' was made available to my understanding through the Son.
The Physical Universe
In The Team Of The Collective
Limitations or Liberations
Carrier Identity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyJb5DrhzsI [How Did Humans Become Earth's Dominant Species?][RTS=7:54]
Gateway Luminous
“I love your inspiring work. Keep that up, please.”
Optimum Health Appreciating
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj7HH0PCqIE [Harnessing The Power Of Information][RTS=7:39]
*Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing*
What Shall We Call It?
Raphael ~
Dreamer
The simplest explanations for why we are here and what we are doing
Advantage
A knight in shining armour Manipulation
What can I say, except "Thank You"
Runestone Symbol
William: Raidho ᚱ
Raidho is indicative of a journey and represents a wheel. This could be both physical travel, as in a holiday or house move, or a spiritual voyage in the expansion of your horizons. It can also indicate things being put into perspective, evolution and the cycle of life.
KEYWORDS: Progress, movement, evolution, perspective, journey, travel
GM: The Astral Body
Ocean
Shaman
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingr...00210016-5.pdf
Balance of power
ImportantARAB-ISRAELI MILITARY BALANCE of the present balance of power and this will slow our effort to develop sound conclusions about the balance ... CIA-RDP80M01133A000800070004-0 The Arab-Israeli Balance of Power in the id-19"Os Purpose and scone. a. This estimate ... in thE' interim.,b. The Arab-Israeli balance of power by the end of' the ten-year period will depend ...et alTHE SHIFTING IMAGE OF THE EAST-WEST BALANCE OF POWER SUMMARY
OF THE EAST-NEST BALANCE OF POWER SUMMARY A factor of potentially great significance in the East-West power ... important people now view the world balance of power as having shifted in favor of the USSR; they no longer ... the power balance actually shifts or not, the world's image of it may do as much to create an imbalance ...
Journey Communication is key Connect
William: Important Journey = 234
[234]
Vortex Television
The Mainstream Program
The Hounds of Judgement
The Ghost is acknowledged
The Mother is his Muse...
The hologram of deception
That’s the way I fire up
Important Journey
Try Different Methods
GM: A Bit Of Both Yes
10:57 [The Last Question]
More To Follow...
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[Replying to William in post #370]
051022 [You are The Old Soul Cosmic Self]
Encounter
“The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams.”
One cannot experience the objective realty of the world directly
Signals
Mind is Ghost
zn+1 = zn2 + c
Intransigent [unwilling or refusing to change one's views or to agree about something.]
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...82489#p1082489
Free Choice Ends HereTheist: do you believe the universe is deterministic or not? Can I get a straight answer?William: My position [Natural/Neutral.] prevents me from forming beliefs on any subject.
I lean toward the realization that the universe is deterministic, rather than is an accident.
Putting My Finger On It
https://www.dreamviews.com/science-m...ml#post2245978
*Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing*DREAMS ARE FREE
Whole-hearted
Original
Darkest Darkness
No point in giving you too much to bear
Evidential
Mind-Filters
What Is Found Here Always Vigilant
“But you will know the more you get in touch with your transcendental mind (and therefore truth) that there is no such thing as a victim. The negative benefits you more than anything else in your evolution and the evolution of all that is.”
Energy
Science and Spirituality
Even
Preternatural [beyond what is normal or natural.]
Intent
The Nature of This Place
Called To Order
The Whole
Sophophilic [a person who loves to gather knowledge with higher emphasis on wisdom.]
Feel The Fear And Do It Anyway
Active Galactic Nucleus
Overwhelming I would say... With Free-spirit a Brilliant Great Answer!
Hope in the Fog
Incendiary
Become more expansive
Truth
When the smoke clears, one is still left with the mirror.
Do you believe astrology works
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzWo-l86Eaw [Exposing Biblical Pseudo-history] [RTS=24:31]
Brow Chakra
*Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing*
Discarnate [not having a physical body.]
William's Commitment
Tabula Rasa Psychic
Lean into it
By/Through
Enlighten
Being 'born of the spirit' is really about coming to the realization of what one truly is rather than remaining in ignorance of that.
Open Hearted
Strength
Creative
Multiverse
How to Bruise a Ghost Plan A Sturdy Place Within that which is unseen...
Listen
Intelligence with Wisdom
Faithful
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...66916#p1066916
KindnessThrough perseverance and commitment to the engagement, it slowly became apparent to Spirit that some of the things previously hidden from itself, required addressing.
Communications Device
Inflame Emotions
*Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing*
Embrace a completely new paradigm
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...89361#p1089361
William: Re that, I just wrote this;
GM: Respect othersThere is a hint of the paranoid in the above.Nontheist: Theist and non -theist will do. I'm just sorta attached to the name Atheist'. I would rather amend what atheist means (at one time it meant Christians, because they did not believe in the Emperor -cult) than shun the term as though (accepting the accusations) I was ashamed of it. .
"Save the label!" as if the label had the power to describe something accurately while remaining easily understood.
It doesn't.
The label "Nontheist" say's everything that needs to be said without the confusion. It also allows for the non-decided, the power of their own position rather than being subject to non-theist/theist dictations.
Folk want to tie themselves to a label using nonsense reasons which appear to be a form of emotionally pleading, as if a great thing would be lost in dropping the label and taking on a more practical label.Nontheist: This is just a personal thing, but "Weak Atheist" which I suppose could be applied to me, sounds like I'm on the verge of becoming a theist. Like any minute I'm going to confess, "Okay, I believe in God again." I'm about a million miles from that.
I use the word atheist to describe myself because I want to show that we all aren't baby eaters or something.
Folk will understand that you don't believe in God again, if you call yourself a Nontheist. Calling oneself a "weak atheist" doesn't help clear the air of any confusion.
What is it describing? A weak Nontheist?
What is that, but something which is neither a theist nor a nontheist.
Why do nontheists calling themselves "atheists" have a problem with Agnosticism having its own position, independent from Theism and Nontheism?
:-k
Those internal things which make one shine
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...69825#p1069825
The BrainKeep it simple. All we are trying to do is allow opportunity for interactive connection to happen between the individual and The Universal Mind, as a means of providing evidence that there is indeed such a mind.
Gods Purpose
Universal
Prometheus
This isn't about thoughts and language. This is about behaviours and actions.one of the Titans, the supreme trickster, and a god of fire. In common belief, he developed into a master craftsman, and in this connection, he was associated with fire and the creation of mortals. His intellectual side was emphasized by the apparent meaning of his name, Forethinker
Adds Up To
Military
Why is this a Requirement?
William: It get things done. It creates a quick path to an objective. "Go Forth. Multiply. Subdue."
GM: Necessity is The Mother of Invention
All Information Is Channelled
Friable [easily crumbled.]
Apocalypse [uncovering]
Life Principles of Sovereign Integral
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...92105#p1092105Observance of Source in All Things is the principle that all manifestations of life convey an expression of First Source. It does not matter how far the unifying energy has been distorted or perverted; the Source can be observed. It is the action of perceiving the unification of energy even when the outward manifestations appear random, distorted, unrelated, or chaotic.
2. Universe relationship through gratitude The principle of universe relationship through gratitude is primarily concerned with consciously designing one's self image through an appreciation of the Universal Entity's supportive "mirror". In other words, the Universal Entity is a partner in shaping reality's expression in one's life. Reality is an internal process of creation that is utterly free of external controls and conditions if the individual projects a sovereign image upon the mirror of the Universal Entity.
3. Nurturance of life The nurturance of life is the principle that an individual is in alignment with the natural expansion of intelligence inherent within all life. This is an alignment that enhances the life-energy that flows past the individual with the clear intent of gentle support. It is the action of identifying the highest motive in all energy forms and supporting the flow of this energy towards its ultimate expression. In so doing, the action is performed without judgment, analysis, or attachment to outcome. It is simply nurturing the energy that flows from all manifestations and supporting its expression of life.
William: I wrote this today;Since I suspect that Nature is mindful - not just that human beings were some happy accident of nature which produced mindfulness - and I think it is possible that the planet itself may well be a mindful entity, so regard the existence of Earth to being evidence of mindful creativity, when I see statements about nature which confer boss-hood and when I compare such to theistic notions of gods - I can't help but wonder if the two are - not only related - but actually speaking about the same thing in different ways, and this is what I am referring to when I asked if you think it possible that the theist storytellers were translating their subjective experience, were also misinterpreting nature.
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...83727#p1083727Yes. It practically explains how a bush can appear to be in flames and yet not burn. Originally Posted by "The Tanager" post_id=1094300 time=1664972379 user_id=11707
It also explains how a bush can be made to appear to have a voice.
A nice touch in that by YHWH doing so, it symbolizes a connect with nature, giving nature a 'voice'. YHWH gives nature a voice.
[Does your computer allow you to see the image?]
The only thing the Holy Ghost is unable to forgive, is that which individuals are unable to forgive of themselvesNontheist: In fact, no one can define this vague Cosmic Mind [CM] in any terms that can be meaningful, except for gobble gook.William: This would certainly be true in terms of sheer information held in the CM - such cannot be downloaded into a human brain without serious irreversible consequences.
However, small bytes over epochs can be integrated with the individuals understanding processes, and the language [of gobble gook] can be deciphered. All on a voluntary basis, of course...
Wish fulfillment
Consciousness incarnates into human form
The evolution of consciousness
The Spirit of The Land
Answer
Although there are opposite sides to spectra, all elements combined form a whole
Alive and kicking
We will just have to go with the implication then, until some way is discovered where the universe allows for us to see otherwise...
Memorandum
Vocables [a word, especially with reference to form rather than meaning.
*Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing*
Old
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzWo-l86Eaw
Good on you mate
The Spirit of The Planet
Adaptive Actions
Hear oh Israel
The sculptor in the sky
William: Hear oh Israel The sculptor in the sky = 387
[387]
May The Spirit of The Earth Bless You
Well That Settles It! What Fun We Have!
Very comfortable in your own skin
Educational - Like stubbing ones minimus
Hear oh Israel The sculptor in the sky
GM: Action
Children of The Dream
*Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing*
Elementary Conclusion
Blend
If 'comfort re death' is gained through fearlessly facing whatever one may face upon actual death, then either belief can achieve this, as far as I can tell. Neither way appears any better equipped to do the job, than the other.
Is Love That Hard To Know?
William: Yes. It is also that which can give one the edge - right of passage - another way of experiencing the next phase...
GM: Is It Our Nature Mysteriously missing That Is A Good Question
William: We appear to be all alone out here in the middle of infinity and apparent chaos. What the Prometheus is all that about?
GM: Life on this planet, as a human being, is difficult.
Interpretation is secondary to the process
William: So we have to answer that question in order to make the process the main point and support its expansion...
GM: A means of taking an Agnostic position on things which have yet to be proven one way or another...Such is a handy device for side-stepping - nothing more.
William: Well - in that it shows another path re process...the path is invisible due to the unanswered nature of the question...if one finds an answer then the answer is a formation of many possible answers into looking like one possible answer.
At least the answer which provides the best comfort all 'round...while the path is being uncovered/made...
GM: *Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing*
Intimate connection
The conscious mind of the individual is heavily influenced by the genetic mind
The Father - in The Mother.
More to follow..
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GM:
Searching For The Truth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAfjsktMXu8
Soul Carrier Memories
Engaging with the impermanent implies a permanent background
William: Engaging with the impermanent implies a permanent background = 571
[571]
Sorting ones self out - a complex and tricky undertaking...
The sea is indeed filled with a deranged assortment of critters
Engaging with the impermanent implies a permanent background
It is interesting moving through an exponential epoch
GM: This is indicative of actual justice
We Could Open Galactic Encompassment
William: We Could Open Galactic Encompassment = 346
[346]
We Could Open Galactic Encompassment
Self-confidence When One is Feeling Tired
This is indicative of actual justice
In the Order of Chaos - I am lowly-ranked
GM: The sculptor in the sky
Action
Children of The Dream
*Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing*
Elementary Conclusion
Blend
If 'comfort re death' is gained through fearlessly facing whatever one may face upon actual death, then either belief can achieve this, as far as I can tell. Neither way appears any better equipped to do the job, than the other.
Is Love That Hard To Know?
The Supernatural and the Bible Delineating Quantum
Foundation
Establishment
Cyborg Anthropology
I say this in terms of the generical idea of God rather than any particular religious idea of God.
The Banner of Apotheosis
A Purpose
The sort of evidence a sceptic calls for in relation to the subject of Intelligent Design.
Glad One Asked
Start where you are
Written Language.
An Eternal Entity Consciousness
Christian mythology re God
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYqghYtia6k [Did The Greco-Roman Elite Class Write The Gospels?! - Professor Robyn Faith Walsh] [RTS= 42:44]
GM: Virtues Vehicle Extreme
Stagnation
Unchartered Territory
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...403205#p403205
GM: The Wayward StickAgnostic: Actually there is no cognitive dissonance. Since I am convinced that even if there is a creator deity, it has nothing to do with religion, there is not much at stake. It is something to muse about from time to time. But there is no practical consequence.
One additional reason I prefer the label agnostic to atheist is that there are certain atheists, not many but some, who like to think that there are only two sides to everything - fundamentalist religiosity or militant anti-religion. Not so far as I can see on this site, but it is definitely the case in some other places.
Does evolution shape our senses to see reality as it really is - or not?
Working Together With Love
It is a Product of Fragmentation
William: Indeed. Forced into compliance due to situation...
GM: Ditching the unnecessary labels
Our Neutral Ground
Apotheosis [the highest point in the development of something; a culmination or climax. the elevation of someone to divine status.]
William: Ditching the unnecessary labels = 302
[302]
A degenerative force to existence
To Be Sure That is the truth.
Speak your thoughts aloud
Corresponding equivalents
Working With What Is Available
Ditching the unnecessary labels
Intelligent Consciousness
GM: The Design of The Universe
Called To Order
Feature
Is the mind a construct of consciousness? Use Mind
Superior Credibility
Would you bow down to your father and call his actions caring?
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...68686#p1068686
William: FTL;
GM:Transferring your awareness I Am Hearing YouDivine Hiddenness = 164“Divine hiddenness”, as the phrase suggests, refers, most fundamentally, to the hiddenness of God, i.e., the alleged fact that God is hidden, absent, silent. In religious literature, there is a long history of expressions of annoyance, anxiety, and despair over divine hiddenness, so understood. For example, ancient Hebrew texts lament God’s failure to show up in experience or to show proper regard for God’s people or some particular person, and two Christian Gospels portray Jesus, in his cry of dereliction on the cross, as experiencing abandonment by God, whom he regarded as “Abba, Father”, an experience shared by many mystics, saints, and ordinary folk of all theistic traditions, described at its worst as “the dark night of the soul”. Understood in this way, divine hiddenness poses an existential problem for those who have such experiences.
[SOURCE]
Science Projects
Behind The Scenery
Lacking belief in gods
Each to their own
Self-limitation
Freeing the soul
Hidden = occult.
Occult = cut off from view by interposing something.
Occult = 74
Jesus
Queenbee
Lucifer
Habitual
Hundred
Phasing
Simple
Between
Tarot
Fine Line
In Detail
Beauty
Nailed it
According
Energy
English
Masonic
Freescale
Gematria
Deep Space
Nuclear
Hexagon
Enchanted
About face
Unknown/Hidden/Occult = 230
The Spirit of The Earth
Well That Settles It
Shallow is Unknown
Neruda Interview Five
The Plateau of The Same Page
Present over perfect
Q: Assuming a Creator of this world exists, in what way is said Creator hidden from us?
Could the answer be that It is not hidden at all, but that it is we who are hiding from It?
[No thought about fate or of ending up late Yet I still like to think where I'm going]
Nontheists may well be the ones who have placed interposing barriers which ensure that their view is cut off - and this might be achieved through willful ignorance.
Religious theists may well be the ones who have placed interposing barriers which ensure that their view is cut off - and this might be achieved through willful ignorance.
If that be the case, then what are the interposing barriers those apparently opposite positions use in order to achieve this occulting phenomena?
Willful ignorance re the nonthesists.
False imagery re the religious theists.
False imagery amounts to willful ignorance. However, because the imagery is based in the genuine, in that The Ghost is acknowledged - dressing The Ghost through the use of imagery is an attempt to make The Ghost be seen.
The Ghost - in essence is The Mind...Consciousness, and that The Ghost breathed itself into form, is also a form of 'dressing up' and a false image for that - but to be fair re The Genesis story, the intent wasn't false.
The intent of The Ghost was to have something of Itself within a device through which it could use Its Mind to create things from the stuff of the planet.
[Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma – which is living with the results of other people's thinking.]
Yet, The Ghost within the form it created, reacted rather badly to the experience...and the reaction is best identified as Fear-Based - The Ghost scared the hell out of itself.
The Greater aspect of The Ghost/Mind that 'stayed behind' to oversee the project - reacted with apparent appall - but this too, may have been how The Ghost within the form interpreted that...and the interpretation may be false because of that - thus the false imagery - based in fear.
The whole Project hasn't been easy from the go-get, but we are not 'dealing' with something which can respond suitable to our willful ignorance/false imagery, other than how It has responded to date.
The Ghost = 102
Thousand
Whatever
Meaningful
Learn Well
A Game Of Chess
Timeless
Sharing data,
Light Body
Core value
Mystical
Vipassana
Inner self
Light Girl
From my own ongoing interactions with The Ghost, I have been informed that It is not angry, and that we would do well to transform our own anger into something more supportive of Its agenda in the scheme of things, that we might fall into line and make things much easier for ourselves.
Meantime, things are going along "just fine" re The Ghost Agenda as human beings have been suppressed sufficiently that they have become more useful to said agenda, and "leveled up" as a result, allowing for The Ghost Agenda to be magnified through scientific discover and the technology this has produced.
The Ghost Agenda = 134
The human brain
The game of Chess
The tree of life
Information
Breakthrough
Incorporate
The Digital Angel
Encounters
To Accomplish
Do a Word Search
One Nine Two
Homo Sapiens
Unprecedented
Real is better
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...71422#p1071422
William: FTL;
GM: Evil GodsOne simply has to love oneself and ones neighbor... where is that written, other than within one's heart.
But Scripture says that we must love Jehovah our God first of all, and then our neighbor.
That's what I was saying, when I wrote;
How can one love others if one does not love oneself? How can one love oneself if one does not love one's God?
However, I do not have one name for my God. I have many names [including YHVH] for The Cosmic Mind of Creation.
Map Carvers
https://www.thespaceacademy.org/2022...gBEE2etWxtGAM8
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...89192#p1089192
GM: EpochsAstrobiologists Say Planet Earth Itself Might Actually Be An Intelligent Being
Try Gateway
Cease Belief
Dequeue
Your Best Self
Divergence
Shine Your Light
More to follow...
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10-10-2022 12:42 AM #285
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...92893#p1092893
GM: Individual ActionsTheist: I think YHWH's relationship to it is closer to a painting than a VR in the sense that YHWH doesn't enter into creation and control it...
William: Simulation Games are not all about controlling or having control over The Simulation.
They generally involve being a character within and doing what one can within the encoded avatar the player is playing through.
There has been no argument from me that YHWH controls The Simulation from within the simulation, but your assertion that YHWH does not enter The Simulation appears to contradict the biblical narrative.
Re avatars, YHWH is said to have achieved this through such things as being a voice in the garden, a voice in a burning bush, a voice in the head of Abraham, - indeed, in every instance I can think of at this moment - where it is said that YHWH enters the Creation, it is done through the guise of some type of avatar - and an accompanying voice which claims to be either YHWH or a messenger of YHWH.
What is behind the VR headset
Psychic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taKaFUNJ6Ec [Atheists CANNOT Explain This Secret Code Seen in Creation] [RTS= 42:08]
William: FTL;
GM: They just add ambiance to the spooky...We did not create laws of Math - we discovered them.
Release
Heart advice
We Could
Buddha
Dualic Energies
A complex and tricky undertaking...
The only thing the Holy Ghost is unable to forgive, is that which individuals are unable to forgive of themselves
Within ones grasp of influence
Evil Gods
Interactions
Super-information medium
Archangel
All That We Are.
Brahman
Is It Our Nature Mysteriously missing That Is A Good Question
GM: Life on this planet, as a human being, is difficult.William: What the Prometheus is all that about?
Interpretation is secondary to the process
A means of taking an Agnostic position on things which have yet to be proven one way or another...Such is a handy device for side-stepping - nothing more.
GM: *Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing*William: Well - in that it shows another path re process...the path is invisible due to the unanswered nature of the question...if one finds an answer then the answer is a formation of many possible answers into looking like one possible answer.
At least the answer which provides the best comfort all 'round...while the path is being uncovered/made...
Intimate connection
The conscious mind of the individual is heavily influenced by the genetic mind
The Father - in The Mother.
"Sorry. Would you clarify that?"
William: At The Source, There is no distinction.
At The Source, There is no distinction. = 384
There are no contradictions which are real = 384
GM: An infinitesimal object germinated
Down through the ages - dark in the gloom Many convinced it will all end in doom The Galactic Garden is forever in bloom
William: No time to be tied to the Moon...
GM: Don’t give up
Those who need to complain
Assuming a Creator of this world exists, in what way is said Creator hidden from us?
Imposed Appropriates Observed
Experience is the best teacher
Open Minded
Borne Upon Judgments Platform
Be here now
GOD
more to follow...
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*YHWH gives nature a voice.*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeuwQHfXyzY
_______________________
071022 [Essentially, we are Gaia in human form...
Hacking through the subconscious
"Off you go to your quarters"
Precise definitions of strategies
Ipsissimus Talk to The Razor] [343]
SCLx10 + select last LE per shuffle
[Preamble]
Leg Hold Traps - Lyricus designs, transposes, and installs galactic Tributary Zones to a planetary system - Transparent - https://debatingchristianity.com/for...89503#p1089503 - Phantasma Wise Conscious - Redefine Oneself - The One GOD With Many Names - Feeling the complete engulfment of unconditional love - Holographic Experiential Reality Simulations - Who Knows Who? - Discovery is finding things that exist.
AP= [=Angels
It is a good sign when Joey Knothead cannot argue against the evidence you present]
[Angels It is a good sign when Joey Knothead cannot argue against the evidence you present = 837]
[837]
You won't learn to understand something that you are trying to outsmart
Tap into your natural intuition and creativity Evolutionary Game Theory
RSP = SCLx10 + *YHWH gives nature a voice.* + Quote Page 837
08:54 [Freedom in The Knowing]
Page 837
GM:*YHWH gives nature a voice.*Attached
That's Powerful!
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...87251#p1087251
Intransigent
Help
Blunt the edge off that particular blade...
Disclosure of Knowledge
Success
Red Pill Crystal Blue Pill Real Be real
Understanding and connecting with the source of our language is vital to that vision
Pleasantries extended to you and yours.
We Can Do Magic! What is real is that we are all imbued with equality and oneness
Extra evidence is provided
The Mapping Bots Couple "I know how you care while you nurture your fear That you'll miss the bouquet when its thrown"
Is quite congruous with Jung's ideas centring around individuation.
Be grateful to everyone
Author Known
Awake and Waiting
The Mother God
Invite The Bee To Land
Fine Line
Eventually one can cease doing the tests and accept the results.
Brother
The Great Green Wall
Scanning Transmission Electron Microscope
Ghost is that which makes the movement of the physical into form and function
Henotheism
Mind To Mind https://debatingchristianity.com/for...o%20Mind.,-Top
Wonder
According to the teachings of ...?
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...89091#p1089091
A riddle wrapped up in an enigma
The Sensation of God's Presence Inside Us Hint Other way Start where you are
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...88397#p1088397
Don’t hide your Generated Messages
Atheism is the ship, not the sailors
Quiet
Appealing, Informative, Honest
Which The Georgia Guidestones Unnecessary Tangent Confusion In The Air
Greed
The Great Attractor
Confluent
Do a QWERTY
Do Not Worry
Elude Tabula Rasa
Particular
Event String Unfolding "Blind Luck" [Indifference]
Pot of Gold
GM: Reconnect with Innocence - It will be the beginning of your reintroduction to your True Self.
Light Body
I Think We Can Safely Say Human beings can do it the hard way or the easy way, but either way, the job will get done.
“Fear is a natural reaction to moving closer to the truth.”
*YHWH gives nature a voice.*
Toxic shame
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...89080#p1089080
GM: Mind-FiltersWilliam: Whatever my position on the subject of GOD is, I am neither atheist or theist, because of the realization that until the question of whether we exist within a creation or not is answered, the question whether there is a creator [GOD] is a pointless one to be arguing.
Thus when such unsupported statements as "There is no position as not a theist and also not an atheist" arise, whether they derive from atheists or theists these types of statement are clearly constructed through cognitive bias filters, having no basis in what is really going on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjoH1ZZrAik [Plasma Wakefield Acceleration: How it Works]
GM: Finding the light27,379 views Nov 6, 2014 This animation explains how electrons can be efficiently accelerated to high energy using wakes created in a plasma.
Hidden riches
WingMakers
Significant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Filter
William: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjtOGPJ0URM
GM: A means of taking an Agnostic position on things which have yet to be proven one way or another...
Escape
Unsupported statements are neither useful to science or to good argument.
William: Escape Unsupported statements that are neither useful to science or to good argument. = 891
A GOD can look down on us with disappointment or look through us with understanding = 891
GM: https://forum.hearing-voices.org/dis...6/i-am-william
GM: https://debatingchristianity.com/for...69825#p1069825GM: One cannot experience the objective realty of the world directly
Signals
Mind is Ghost
zn+1 = zn2 + c
Intransigent [unwilling or refusing to change one's views or to agree about something.]
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...82489#p1082489
Theist: do you believe the universe is deterministic or not? Can I get a straight answer?William: My position [Natural/Neutral.] prevents me from forming beliefs on any subject.
I lean toward the realization that the universe is deterministic, rather than is an accident.
GM: Free Choice Ends Here
GM: *YHWH gives nature a voice.*William: Calling something "pseudoscience" isn't getting the science done - it is simply relying on woo-slinging to act as a barrier against one having to do the science for oneself - by applying an inappropriate slogan to the process.
You have your mind - use it.
Look Closely
An Exam
Creative Conscious Intelligence
Functional Clusters
Forum
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...82466#p1082466
GM: FailureWilliam:Most of the nontheist arguments have turned out to be Smoke and Mirrors.
The very idea of a Mind - even to the depths of the Quantum Presence has them fleeing from
Merging with the data and understanding the Integral Network which Mind is and is involved with the development of.
This lack of being reasonable is shirking from Responsibility following after the Tempting Vision and hope in eventual "death by cease to exist" - the promise of ending the nightmare of existing - yet
The Way of the Shaman is allowing life to breath - even if the breath appears to be associated with Sagan's' Dragon in the Garage...it is what it is and even if it hisses smokey instructions inducing the stuff of Childhood Nightmares from some deep part of us, a simple understanding and a gentle reminder - like a Moderator Comment - can make a world of difference...remind oneself occasionally that when the smoke clears [as it will when the dragon stops speaking] one is still left with the mirror.]
Yes indeed...When the smoke clears, one is still left with the mirror...
Nontheist crack me up.
It should come as no surprise that you can see the signal.
Calculator Active
Christian mythology re God
Worthy of the individuals time and effort
William: Christian mythology re God Worthy of the individuals time and effort [713]
[Seven One Three = 155]
[155]
The same mindset
Like a Job Well Done
The Abrahamic idea of god
On The Other Hand.
What is atheism
Authenticity
Ones and zeros
Translucency
Watch this space
Try To Feel It
Contentious
Gods Purpose
The naked truth
Authenticity
Any Other Way.
Meretricious
Free Choice Ends Here
GM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYVNZgnQ8gE [50,000,000x Magnification] [RTS=10:40]
William: One pixel at a time...
GM: Celebrate the differences
Let yourself be led
Communicating
They is what they is.
Yodhey Whahay
Playing Chess
Active
"You can teach me when I’m Needing You can reach for me when I’m bleeding Touch me where I need it most - you are the Ghost - in the Machine" Aligning Self-help
Penetrate The Bidden Zone
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...90670#p1090670
William: You seem adverse to my understanding that the way Satan is utilized by God is reflected onto God and can be seen for what it is, by the audience.
I do not have those images you have in your beliefs about Satan, and am not accusing anyone, Satan, God or Job, Christ, David Paul or any other entity effected by God.
I am merely saying what the obvious positions are in relation to God and the angels, and Humans.
I simply pointed out that there is no mention of Job being consulted on the matter before being cast into the role.
I am unconcerned as to whether Satan had permission to inflict harm on Job and do anything to Job directly or indirectly to test Jobs loyalty to God - or whatever the reason was - as it is also obvious throughout the bible that this is how God works in such cases were an adversary is useful.
Either lessons are being learned or it is for some other - as yet unknown - reason
Satan appears to act as the dark side of יהוה and apparently the role is temporary which signifies that when God is done and dusted the dark thing becomes no more/transformed.
How you tell it, is no different than how any other Christian tells it.
That you hear an encouraging voice you call "Christ" while Joey Knotweed hears a tormentors voice he calls "Cowardly" tells me that you have dealt with your dark side more effectively and made friends with it.
GM: Think With The heart - Feel With The Mind
Philo2
William: FTL;
GM: The ElectronChamber Two – The Shifting Models of Existence
Consider these words as symbols only. Remember that language is a tool of limitation. Feeling is an antidote of limitation that permits the human instrument to leap over the boundaries of the logical mind and witness firsthand the wordless power of collective energy individuated. Feel the truth that stands behind the symbols, and tap into this energy-force that reaches out for you. Know it as a tone-vibration—a resonance that waits for you around every corner in which your life will turn. It is the beacon of the Source Vibration gathering itself into the form of language in order to usher you to the place from which you can experience the formless tone of equality; the bypass of limitation; the Primal Language of Source Intelligence that bestows to you the freedom to generate your deepest beauty in the expression of the highest truth. {SOURCE}
Solving Mathematical Problems
Religion
Emergent Theory
Because we are effectively trapped in our individuate states, yet nature Herself makes it that we cannot survive independently of each other, this apparent contradiction feeds those fires of discontentment.
10:05
[The "Oh My God" Particle
The voice of knowledge
The Language of Innocence
An Elemental Principle
Attention to Detail
Concomitant Power
Approaching the Divine]
[Concomitant - a phenomenon that naturally accompanies or follows something.]
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It's Our Nature
"Lessons All 'Round"
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...70557#p1070557
Lordy! Do I Have To?
William: Rather that than cry me a river...
GM: Astigmatism [a defect in the eye or in a lens caused by a deviation from spherical curvature, which results in distorted images, as light rays are prevented from meeting at a common focus.]
The Power Of Creation
The Mindfulness involved re the things we cannot actually physically see, but are there to be discovered, nonetheless.
Once Upon a Time "Lordy! Do I Have To?"
Parchment
Remote Viewing
♫ Motor Man why your running, running on overdrive what lies ahead is coming ain’t no way you can step aside ain’t no way you can run and hide ♫
Encounter Something Our movements can illuminate the path toward that vision.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophia_(Gnosticism) [RS]
That's Powerful!The Ennoia
This mythos of the soul and her descent into this lower world, with her various sufferings and changing fortunes until her final deliverance, recurs in the Simonian system under the form of the All-Mother who issues as its first thought from the Hestōs or highest power of God. She generally bears the name Ennoia, but is also called Wisdom (Sophia), Ruler, Holy Spirit, Prunikos, Barbelo. Having sunk down from the highest heavens into the lowest regions, she creates angels and archangels, and these again create and rule the material universe. Restrained and held down by the power of this lower world, she is hindered from returning to the kingdom of the Father. According to one representation she suffers all manner of insult from the angels and archangels bound and forced again and again into fresh earthly bodies, and compelled for centuries to wander in ever new corporeal forms. According to another account she is in herself incapable of suffering, but is sent into this lower world and undergoes perpetual transformation in order to excite by her beauty the angels and powers, to impel them to engage in perpetual strife, and so gradually to deprive them of their store of heavenly light. The Hestōs himself at length comes down from the highest heaven in a phantasmal body in order to deliver the suffering Ennoia, and redeem the souls held in captivity by imparting gnosis to them.
Sharing Data
Heisenberg's uncertainty principle
William
*Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing*
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...70222#p1070222
GM: Trust the ProcessWilliam: Logically The Mind/consciousness/self awareness is therefore that which shapes the matter which we call "The Universe" - and anyone who does not think that the universe has a mind, is not paying attention to the one piece of evidence which indisputably shows that mind and matter interrelate as The Ghost and The Machine.
ComListSup
Impressionable
Do this
You Are Nobodies Victim - Ever.
Integration
Putting yourself back together again Glow Softly Strengthen your boundaries One can simply shrug and tell oneself “It doesn't really matter"
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...92085#p1092085
GM: What is antichrist?I just see it as a binary option - something either exists in reality, or it doesn't. That's about as "fundamental" as reality gets.
Your seeing of it is incomplete then, according to the science...
I do try my best to understand and learn, but for me reality is a yes/no type of deal.
I hear you. I can assume that you give that much grace to everyone else, my friend...for not everyone sees it the way you do and you can be content with that. We call can.
Challenge
We All Like To Play Games
Even that it took an actual mind operating with language, to make such a statement.
Establishment
Reality
The process of individuation
Expression
The Dangers of Separating Human Consciousness From Any Idea of GOD
Productive Rationality
Like mindful nests with eggs in 'em
The Second Coming
Calling the shots
William: While we all wait...
GM: Random coincidence? I think not.
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...37619#p1037619
William: FTL;
GM: Didactic [- intended to teach, particularly in having moral instruction as an ulterior motive. in the manner of a teacher, particularly so as to appear patronizing.]Lately some of us have been arguing from three differing positions is which the bible can be used to defend all three. All three appear to agree that each individual has a "Soul" although there may be disagreement on what the exact function of a "Soul" is.
[1] A "Person" is "Spirit" and temporarily exists as a human being until the body dies then that "Person" enters an afterlife and is judged by "God" and is condemned or saved. Those saved go to "heaven" and those condemned go to "Hell" - or in some variances on this, are "exterminated".
[2] A "Person" a "Human being" and when the human being dies, that is the end of that person unless "God" judges them as "saved" in which case that person is resurrected and given a new body which will last forever more.
[3] A "Person" is an eternal Spirit in human form and when the body dies, that Spirit immediately moves to the next phase and either knowingly or unknowingly creates for their self, their next experience, based upon a combination of mainly what they believe, what their overall attitude is and what they did in the previous phase.
Often any different position which opposes another might logically mean that they both cannot be correct, assuming one or the other is true.
Both [1]&[2] fall into this category as they cannot both be true. [1]&[2] also both agree that [3] is false.
However, [3] Can be true without making the other two false.
And [3] - just as with [1]&[2] can be backed by the bible, depending on what parts of the bible one uses to do so.
The bible is interpreted throughout, based upon which position [1][2] or [3] is being used [as the filter] to interpret it through .
If [1]&[2] oppose each other but can still be "proven" by using the bible, then this makes the bible something of a contradiction.
But if [3] - although different from [1]&[2] does not oppose either [1]&[2] and can still be "proven" by using the bible just like [1]&[2], then [3] takes away the contradictory aspect of the bible which [1]&[2] create by being in opposition.
Question: Would it be fair to say therefore, that [3] is the best position to assume on the overall biblical script to do with the subject of the next phase [afterlife]?
Significance
Active Imagination (see technique)
Conscience
It is not about what is written, but rather - why it is about what was written
Hyper-normalisation
Regarding
Be authentic
Penetrate
There Are Myriad Stories Happening Within The Main Story
The Great White Brotherhood
Time To Go Without Existence
No Country For Old Men
Frequency Dependent Selection
Mind
Sad
Micro Reflections of a Macro Reality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2utCTvqlVI [Joe Rogan | The Crystal Skulls and Alien Abductions w/Dan Aykroyd] [RTS= 14:31]
This
Slowly and Surely Explain Think With The heart - Feel With The Mind
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...69825#p1069825
GM: “Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all”Calling something "pseudoscience" isn't getting the science done - it is simply relying on woo-slinging to act as a barrier against one having to do the science for oneself - by applying an inappropriate slogan to the process.
It's Our Nature
*Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing*
Active
Word-String
Never a dull moment
Annus horribilis
Nature being the very instigator
Trust the Universe
When the smoke clears, one is still left with the mirror.
Veil
Well even the most ugly of us have a Father. [in house joke]
The Lord God
Calling the shots
Genius
Hacking through the subconscious
Try Different Methods
Tug Of War
What The Gods See
Mixture
Nontheists may well be the ones who have placed interposing barriers which ensure that their view is cut off - and this might be achieved through willful ignorance.
The Creator Atman Here-and-now
Does evolution shape our senses to see reality as it really is - or not?
Umbrella
You will overcome
Contumacious [stubbornly or wilfully disobedient to authority.]
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...85305#p1085305
William: FTL;
GM: We succeed as a permanent specie or we fail as a temporary oneWe also should know and factor in that there has been an increase in internet conspiracy theories to do with the mark - one of the latest being - that covid virus vaccinations are administering a computer chip into human beings - and this idea of a computer chip embedded into the human being, has been associated with the mark since we entered into the technological epoch.
I remember my own days of Churching, I did some time in a Pentecostal new age setting, ET's [presented as the antichrist] 666 and 'chipping' rumors were well spread therein. That was in the 80's...42 years ago...
https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0203081609.htm
GM: There are many levels of consciousnessScientists are trying to understand the mysteries of the holographic principle: How many dimensions are there in our universe? Some of the world's brightest minds are carrying out research in this area -- and still have not succeeded so far in creating a unified theory of quantum gravitation is often considered to be the "Holy Grail" of modern science.
We Can Do Magic!
Word-String
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYVNZgnQ8gE [50,000,000x Magnification] [RTS= 10:13]
William:
Five Zero ZeroZeroZero ZeroZeroZero Times Magnification = 677
The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. = 677
GM: *Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing*
As in "A Cosmic Comedy" being played out...
In Cell 32 I Found Love In You
You Are Allowed To Laugh You Know
While We All Wait....
William: *Smiles*
GM: Apotheosis [the highest point in the development of something; a culmination or climax. the elevation of someone to divine status.]
Seduce
Remnant Seed
Open Minded
Dream yoga
Truthfulness
Truth
Concomitant [a phenomenon that naturally accompanies or follows something.]
Self-reflection
Now that nut is cracked, what next?
A theism is the ship, not the sailors
Trust The Process
Look from a different angle
Seduce
The Science Of The Soul
*Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing*
Stay Present
I have no reason not to trust that the thought was backed with good intentions.
Dualism Separates Because Oneness Remains Hidden From Its Selves
Lyricus designs, transposes, and installs galactic Tributary Zones to a planetary system
Let the hand of GOD work for you
Oneirology
Great Ideas
Being
Core value
Divine intuition
Soul
*Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing*
"Know that this new relationship will help you become better..."
Christian mythology
The Ishango bone
You Tube Mythology Enlightenment
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...82379#p1082379
GM: “No sailor controls the sea.”Re: The mind as evidence of god So then we see, the claim in the OP can't be shown to be true and factual.
Yes. I also observe that it cannot be shown to be false and fanciful.
Freeing the soul
Humans are programmed to become integrated with technology
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...90271#p1090271
GM: In The Rabbit HoleHow To Bruise a Ghost.
The evening is warm and the night sky full of stars. A crescent moon peeks above the Twelve Judges Mountain Range as Father and Son sit opposite one another, being warmed by the same fire.
William places another log on the fire and watches as a flurry of sparks ascend from the disturbance caused – he takes a sip of tea and listens as Father resumes speaking.
Manu Iti: All stories start with "Once Upon a Time"
William: Even the story of The Beginning?
Manu Iti: You know this to be true William, for every story could not have been told, if The Story of The Beginning hadn't happened.
William: Am I old enough to be told that story?
Manu Iti chuckles.
Manu Iti: Of course you are, My Son.
William: Thank You, My Father!
Manu Iti: I will begin first with the Earth, not because She was the very first thing in The Beginning, but because - in order to understand The Beginning we have to first understand our part in the story - our place in the scheme of All That Is.
William: And that begins with Earth Mother...
Manu Iti: Indeed.
The Mother was born of a vaster thing - our Grand-Mother - and we shall get to Grand-Mother in due course.
The Mother was placed within The Earth by Grand-Mother and became the mind of the planet. When this happened, Mother was a Child Herself - a new thing placed within the form of the planet, while at the same time, a part of The Ancient Mind of Grand-Mother...
William: How is that even possible, Father?
Manu Iti: It is possible through the power of forgetting.
The Ancient Mind of Grand-Mother spawned a thought in the form of a spark of light and placed it inside the middle of a dark and lifeless form, and in doing so, gave the form - Life.
In that action, the Earth became a living planet. She also became a new conscious entity...a being with a beginning, because the action of placing Her into a planet, erased all knowledge of ever having a prior existence as The Grand Mother.
William: Did The Grand Mother know this would happen?
Manu Iti: Yes. The Grand Mother new that this would continue for a time. The Grand Mother knew that Her Daughter would be orphaned by that lack of knowledge and this would result in a new Being which could operate successfully without having to have that knowledge - and that one day, The Daughter would come to know of The Grand Mother and reconnect...
William: Is that a good thing to do with a Child?
Manu Iti: Yes. It is how a Child becomes a Sovereign Entity. It is not done this way with Human Children - but there are elements of the process which do - naturally - occur to each of us.
William: Like - how we cannot recall anything but darkness, before we became aware of our existence?
Manu Iti: Yes.
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Panpsychism [In the philosophy of mind, panpsychism is the view that the mind or a mindlike aspect is a fundamental and ubiquitous feature of reality. It is also described as a theory that "the mind is a fundamental feature of the world which exists throughout the universe."]
It Was Tough Going, But Rewarding All The Same.
The nature of understanding
Code
For The Purpose Of
*Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing*
Functional Clusters
Mission
.
[330]
This moment is the perfect teacher
Mission Functional Clusters
Living our forefathers’ conflict
It is a slippery path of snake-oil.
The Realm of The Knowing of My Self
I Think – Therefore – Who Do I Think I Am?
Actions speak louder than words
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[Replying to The Tanager in post #93]
So yes. about those stories...
I observe the explanation for any of them, can be told as 'we exist within a simulation' - created for a purpose which we should be able to intelligently work out.You would have to show me that is the case before I could agree with that, if indeed it were even important/relevant.I agree. It can also be told via other kinds of creation views.
In the telling of it, the instruction for humans is to go forth and to multiply and to subdue the planet.No.For the burning bush story?
If, during the discussion we might continue to have, you feel that I am confused about which story of the Bibles many stories being referred to, please let me know.
Whatever I mention of whatever bible story, am I able to presume that you know the Bible stories well enough not to have to ask, or should I be more specific in the furture?
The one speaking the instruction, is represented in many forms throughout the Bible, but considered to being the same VOICE behind those forms - be the form a burning bush, or even the atmospheric form of a disembodied external VOICE, such as when in the garden...YVHV uses what YVHV will to get the message across...Okay.Yes, I agree.
We have both agreed that:
1: We exist within a creation.
2: Simulation Theory is a valid way to interpret the Biblical stories.
If there is any pattern in the overall stories which can give us a definitive answer;
Q: Why did YVHV create this universe and specifically place human beings within it for the purpose of us exploring, breeding and subduing it?
____________________________________________
Note: I understand that there are most likely many conflicting answers, depending upon an individual's beliefs and interpretations of the bible stories and I am not interested in arguing about beliefs and interpretations.
I simply want one's impression or understanding of why one thinks that given the evidence humans have so far uncovered, YVHV does this to Humans.
For example, I have the impression you think that you never existed before you were born and although we have different opinions on that point, I seem to recall you argued that the personality/character you are, never existed prior to this experience you are currently having.
If I understand you correctly here, then we can agree that one of the main purposes for this universe and humans being within it, has to do with the formation of personalities/characters...and in relation to YHVH - these are for the purpose of then having the potential - to interact with YVHV.
What do you say to the above. - Agree? Disagree? Important things to iron out first?
_________________________
*Why did YVHV create this universe and specifically place human beings within it for the purpose of us exploring, breeding and subduing it?*
DATE [Like an interface representation] [312]
SCLx6 + select last LE per shuffle
[Preamble]
Courageous - Truth Without Proof Is Belief - "With a mystical smile I float down the isle Forgetting the time when I was lost" - Further - If In Doubt Let It Sit - Confirmation which moves one from faith to fact
AP= [The Electron - Augment = 206]
[Augment -make (something) greater by adding to it; increase.]
[206]
[Subatomic Particles
Take care of yourself
Odd Addiction Vortex
The Nature of The Mind
Mathematical problems
The Kindness of Sleep
Gateway Luminous
The Electron Augment
The fire from within
Looking behind the veil]
RSP = SCLx6 +
*Why did YVHV create this universe and specifically place human beings within it for the purpose of us exploring, breeding and subduing it?* + P&P + Quote Page 206
Page 206
GM:05:48 [Freedom in The Knowing]Afraid of The Unknown
When the evidence for long ages became obvious, most Christians realized that their earlier assumptions about scripture were incorrect.
Lilibet
Comprehend Embarrassing Advice
Language
Genetic Memory
Think With The heart - Feel With The Mind
Internet
Put That Fire Out
Raphael ~
Conundrum
I Am Hearing You
That's a good one
https://wizardforums.com/threads/wil...647/post-14193
Moon
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...92465#p1092465
As Crazy as evolution might seem, it is just the way the Cosmic Mind did it.
Fitting In
Clean
Vipassana
Symbols
The Single Word List
That will come out in the wash - as the saying goes...
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...88943#p1088943
Beyond Belief Recovery
Equal System
You Are Allowed To Laugh You Know
Wow!
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...67058#p1067058
He Who Waits ~
Smarter Than The Average
Validation
Positive self-talk Joy Left -brain Right brain Whole brain
The Akashic Records ...because death comes a-knockin' eventually...
Shaming
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...92361#p1092361
Birthing
Religious beliefs are a many-barbed growth wishing to own the rights on the mind behind creation Puppets handing out sweets
They is what they is.
Christian mythology
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...88293#p1088293
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...78114#p1078114
Lucid
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...83877#p1083877
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...15694#p1015694
The Ride
Looking behind
Regarding
International Skeptics Forum - View Single Post - The Seed of Origin
GM: God/Source/Home
Unsuccessful attempt to find something
Propagated
Religious theists may well be the ones who have placed interposing barriers which ensure that their view is cut off - and this might be achieved through wilful ignorance.
A machine for solving problems
"One Day" [Christian mythology re God]
In Denial What Is Our Purpose? My advice to the reader is to follow the links
Interactions
Go For It!
*Why did YVHV create this universe and specifically place human beings within it for the purpose of us exploring, breeding and subduing it?*
Teaching
The things you can see only when you slow down
In The Team of the Collective
GOD God Gods gods
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...35328#p1035328
GM: *Why did YVHV create this universe and specifically place human beings within it for the purpose of us exploring, breeding and subduing it?*William: My thoughts on this are that is seems more logical to go with consciousness not being an emergent property of working brains because this implies that the material can create the immaterial, which seems to be unnatural [goes against] in regard to how nature creates. Nature creates using what is materially available. Why would it first [or at all] need to create something immaterial to then be enabled do this?
Thus it seems more logical to accept that the immaterial created the material and placed itself within that material in order to then further shape that material in ways which would help it to create through that material [such as working brains]. First making the basics and then getting into the details.
Charge
Mystery Consensus Realities
Different ways of supporting the same objective.
To Know
Look inward
Eternal Loop
Homeostasis [the tendency towards a relatively stable equilibrium between interdependent elements, especially as maintained by physiological processes.]
A Space Without A Time...
The Blank-Slate Borderlines
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...82604#p1082604
GM: The Supernatural and the BiblePeeKay: Perception of morality is an ability people have, and it's as important, or more important than sight.William: It is no doubt helpful for biological critters to have any chance of surviving within the Universe to invent morals which assist with that process.
However, in order to accept the premise you offer, one would have to say that morals were not invented but discovered. One would have to assign human characteristics to the Universe. Do you think that the Universe is therefore self aware and has a sense of morality?
Conjunction All The World Are Under the watchful eye
Insufficient data
*Why did YVHV create this universe and specifically place human beings within it for the purpose of us exploring, breeding and subduing it?*
Stuff
Things
A complex and tricky undertaking...
William: Stuff/things a complex and tricky undertaking... = 467
There seems to be an objective reality out there = 467
GM: Plus
The Corporate Elite
Do a Word Search
Musing On The Mother
William: Musing On The Mother = 224
The Eigengrau Mind Screen
James Webb Space Telescope
Under the watchful eye
As An Elemental Principle
They is what they is.
Look For the Significance
The Purpose Of Life Is...
Unknown Visitor
Leave room for nature
One Hundred and Sixty
The Corporate Elite Musing On The Mother = 419
[419]
What I also know is that numbers don't lie.
Might even cause Dad to crack a smile...who knows!
"Well even the most ugly of us have a Father."
The Corporate Elite Musing On The Mother
Elementary Conclusion "I am on a Madventure"
GM:
The Way We Feel Unification
Guilty
Brave
Conscious Eats Experience
Inflicting science upon a specie which is not ready for it
May all your madventures be fun.
Go with the Flow
Tap into your natural intuition and creativity
Spiritual bypassing
*Why did YVHV create this universe and specifically place human beings within it for the purpose of us exploring, breeding and subduing it?*
Interpretation/Feel
Masks
The Neutral Zone is the vaster reality of non-judgementalism
Evil
Shape
Sometimes the simplest explanations are the best...
OWOBIK [One Whom Ought Be Inwardly Known]
Solidarity
As in "A Cosmic Comedy" being played out...
Lojong [used for contemplative practice. The practice involves refining and purifying one's motivations and attitudes.]
The Divine
Feeling the complete engulfment of unconditional love
*Why did YVHV create this universe and specifically place human beings within it for the purpose of us exploring, breeding and subduing it?*
Leave room for nature
Zones of Sensitivity
'If only' it wasn't in the too hard basket....which fortunately it actually isn't.
Simulating large scale structure
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...89644#p1089644
06:14William:Nontheist: And I get what you say about cutting off from the experience of God etc. But that is cutting yourself off from the possibility that pursuit of the Mystical Experience may in the end, be a waste of time.Mystical Experience has often involved showing the individual that time is an illusion - and that death is as well.
One will live an entire lifetime and not learn everything there is to know and what if death is not the end and one could have utilized their time in a balanced manner which did not involve cutting one off in favor of the other.
I would rather the Panthera pulling my Chariot were both moving in the same direction with the same purpose...
[Secrets of the soul
Central to The Message
Between a rock and a hard place
Remember who you are
Hologram Dimensions]
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10-18-2022 09:00 PM #289
"Generative adversarial network"
112022 [In training for the next level] [306]Not to be confused with Adversarial machine learning.
Part of a series on
Machine learning
and data mining
Scatterplot featuring a linear support vector machine's decision boundary (dashed line)
Problems
Supervised learning
(classification • regression)
Clustering
Dimensionality reduction
Structured prediction
Anomaly detection
Artificial neural network
AutoencoderCognitive computingDeep learningDeepDreamMultilayer perceptronRNN LSTMGRUESNreservoir computingRestricted Boltzmann machineGANSOMConvolutional neural network U-NetTransformer VisionSpiking neural networkMemtransistorElectrochemical RAM (ECRAM)
Reinforcement learning
Learning with humans
Model diagnostics
Theory
Machine-learning venues
Related articles
vte
A generative adversarial network (GAN) is a class of machine learning frameworks designed by Ian Goodfellow and his colleagues in June 2014.[1] Two neural networks contest with each other in the form of a zero-sum game, where one agent's gain is another agent's loss.
Given a training set, this technique learns to generate new data with the same statistics as the training set. For example, a GAN trained on photographs can generate new photographs that look at least superficially authentic to human observers, having many realistic characteristics. Though originally proposed as a form of generative model for unsupervised learning, GANs have also proved useful for semi-supervised learning,[2] fully supervised learning,[3] and reinforcement learning.[4]
The core idea of a GAN is based on the "indirect" training through the discriminator, another neural network that can tell how "realistic" the input seems, which itself is also being updated dynamically.[5] This means that the generator is not trained to minimize the distance to a specific image, but rather to fool the discriminator. This enables the model to learn in an unsupervised manner.
GANs are similar to mimicry in evolutionary biology, with an evolutionary arms race between both networks.{SOURCE}
SCLx9 + select last LE per shuffle
[Preamble]
My commentary is on the positional responses to the question "Do we exist within a creation?" rather than what individuals giving allegiance to said positions may or may not do as a matter of personal choice. - Recover what was lost - The Electroweak Era - The Fathers 'House - Mansions' - Confirmation bias - https://debatingchristianity.com/for...77448#p1077448 - Absolute Unbounded Manifold Fine-structure Constant - The Evolution of Morals - The Ghost
AP= [=Sharing Data
Higher Self Dream Guide Love Heart Raise your frequency]
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[Love Heart Higher Self Dream Guide Sharing Data Raise your frequency = 637]
The Neutral Zone is the vaster reality of non-judgementalism = 637
RSP = SCLx9 + "Generative adversarial network" + P&P + Quote Page 637
Page 637
GM:08:49 [Freedom in The Knowing]The Deep and Meaningful
The Nature of The Mind
We Are Us
Atheism is the unconscious lack of belief in Gods
For Your Greater Enjoyment
The "Everything Is Unique" Mantra
Presence
Perennial [lasting or existing for a long or apparently infinite time; enduring or continually recurring.]
Little Bird
Narcissist [a person who has an excessive interest in or admiration of themselves.]
Through Others
Hypnagogic experience
Working on that...
The ability of foresight helps one to think through the desires of ones heart through logic-based filters.
Who Knows
Night
Jump to Conclusions
Create
Maree’s dying/death
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...93198#p1093198
Sleeping Dragon
Nyx
Story-Tellers
“Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans”
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...69223#p1069223
Feeling the complete engulfment of unconditional love
Nuclear
Freemasonry
Unwilling Reaction
Consciousness in its myriad of form and function
Grace
Fear intimidation distraction exploitation
The Sun
Executing
Experience is the best teacher
Correct
Engaging with the impermanent implies a permanent background
Intimation
Righty Oh!
Generated Messages Coming From A Creator
A physical manifestation of a mental projection
Conception
I Ensure The Hierarchy Serves It's Purpose
REAL Friendship
Dualic Residue
Bodhisattva
The House of Politics
Do Not Panic
Insufficient data
Love Takes One For The Team
"Generative adversarial network"
GM: Your Dream Team
Events connected by meaning
https://theagnosticforum.com/threads....348/post-1932
Returning
Apocalypse [Uncover – reveal.]
Executing
“Fear is a natural reaction to moving closer to the truth.”
Clearness
This transformation of the entity is the pathway into wholeness and the recognition that the entity model of expression is a composite of forms and the formless that is unified in one energy, one consciousness.
"Generative adversarial network"
Though Thought
Psychological events
It can bite and scratch so one has to be careful
Is life on earth being lived as it should be?
Is there a way in which one can test the hypothesis and in doing so, elevate it to an accepted theory?
Christian mythology re God " It helps makes the stinky hole I was pushed through in order to get here, a purposeful experience..."
Death
Stay Present
Quest
Peaceful Messiah
Proceed with causation, cautiously...
Be aware
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjtWUWZxocA [Jan Westerhoff | Are Dreams Real?]
William: FTL;
GM: Dichotomy [1. a division or contrast between two things that are or are represented as being opposed or entirely different.]5,812 views Nov 16, 2019 Is dreaming just an illusion? Philosopher and orientalist Jan Westerhoff, explores what Buddhist philosophy can teach us about dreaming, illusion and reality. [Is Reality an Illusion?]
https://forum.philosophynow.org/view...578758#p578758
The bureaucracy of ChristianityMy understanding of the Realm of Judgment is that some folk want to run their life experiences through this realm on the off-chance that the approval they seek, is given therein.
"Generative adversarial network"
Fear-Based Thinking Ensures You Get To Know It
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...76777#p1076777
The Mapping Bots Couple ♫I know how you care while you nurture your fear That you'll miss the bouquet when its thrown♫Golden nugget of truth
♫I see the light I see the Light I see the light now I start again upon the road that never ends...♫
Know This
Invisible Wings
Fling That Veil Aside
One has to take care to process the thoughts of the inner critic making sure that they align with the truth.
Ace in the hole
♫The picture unfolds like silk in a loom Silhouetted by Diane are the witch and the broom If she is the bride - who is the groom?♫
Educational
"Generative adversarial network"
OOBE Target Technique
Mysterious process
Mapping Wholeness
“Spread love everywhere you go. Let no one ever come to you without leaving happier.”
Leave a Trail
Spring Loaded
Transparency
Avet
It isn't important who is who - what is important is what comes through.
Fitting In Creative Conscious Intelligence
Question.
The past and the future are moments of 'now' - to deny they have no bearing on this moment, is counter-productive
Inculcated [[instil/teach (an idea, attitude, or habit) by persistent instruction.]
Genetic Mind
The Hounds of Judgement Numbing The Power Of Creation
Besides
Sure
"Generative adversarial network"
Marijuana
Zero Waste
Politics
Universe
Dare greatly
Universal Objective
Secular Science Projects
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...88397#p1088397
Ship Shape[The path of awakening]
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...69704#p1069704
GM: "Free Will" is nothing much to crow about..."Visions" show that to be the case.William: Again - the discussion being had here shows me that beliefs to do with the age of the Universe are secondary in relevant importance to the fact of its existence and our existence within it.
Re: the OPQ: How Crazy does Evolution Seem?
No more or less crazy than the notion of the Universe being a Holographic Experiential Reality Simulation produced and processed within the mind of The Father God - and furthermore, this idea does not go against The Script...scripture being scant on the details has to do with its focus being on The Creator re the Human element of the story - rather than specifically The Creation...and in that regard, 'a blink of an eye' and '13.8 billion years' amount to exactly the same thing in relation to said Mind.
Notice too, that the Biblical take on the existence of life on Earth, does not acknowledge the Dinosaurs
Search: What does the word Dinosaur mean
Sir Richard Owen came up with the name dinosaur in 1841 to describe the fossils of extinct reptiles. He coined the word by combining the Greek words “deinos”, which means terrible, and “sauros”, which means lizard.
As near to this as the bible story gets, is The Serpent...is that a coincidence or something linking prehistory with human development?
Mother Invention
Hold/Have
Elementary Conclusion a belly full of laughs.
Smile at fear
An Elder Race
"Is consciousness an emergent property of the brain?"
Anunnaki
Coming closer to ourselves
Conceivable
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...78114#p1078114
William: FTL;
GM: Milky Way MotherCompassionist: How do you know there is such a thing called the soul or spirit or eternal entity or heaven or hell or God?William: "Soul" "Sprit" "Eternal Entity" are reductions of data accumulation. On a personal level [as in "how do I know"] since experiencing "OOB" I have no option [if I am to remain honest] but to consider that data of experience as relative to my 'self-identity' so I am in the skin of an ape, but the personality being developed as "me" is done so directly through my nervous system [see here for more about that] and so underneath the flesh and bone of my human form, is the heart of a system which allows for me to even contemplate self-identification.
Coupling that data [my personal data of experience] with the stories humans tell of their subjective experiences, I can form a picture of the most likely overall picture of what is occurring - what we are all involved within.
For reasons of simplicity [re the complexity] I refer to the whole as a kind of Simulation Game-Play, because that is what it appears to be.
So it is not so much a matter of 'knowing' as it is a matter of guessing. I could be wrong, I could be right. The death of the body will show me I am right OR I will simply cease to exist/experience data.Compassionist: The Bible is full of contradictions and inaccuracies. How can I possibly rely on the Bible to give me facts about reality?William: The bible is just one of many theist books and in that, the contradictions are about individual authors relaying their ideas based upon their particular beliefs, which - combined - are what produce the contradictions. Like with all theistic writings, it is wise to take the stories on the understanding that the individuals are relaying their experiences as the experiences were created through their beliefs and in correlation with their personal attitudes etc...it is unwise to think of such as reliable source re 'facts about reality' - as to do so means one is having to believe and in that, shaping ones beliefs and attitudes and [should there be more to experience after the death of the body] those beliefs and attitudes will have an effect on what it is the individual will create and experience for themselves.
My perspective [re logic] is that it is better to be somewhat prepared for the possibility that there is more to experience after the death of the body, than to believe that there will be nothing more to experience and be way less prepared as a consequence.
If I am wrong, then 'no problem' but if I am right, then 'no problem'...
Neurotransmitters
Reconnect with Innocence - It will be the beginning of your reintroduction to your True Self.
Baiting
Children of The Light
The Mind is a planetary phenomenon
Attitude of gratitude
"Generative adversarial network"
Astral Guides
Morph
Believing in fearful imagery
The Great Grey Neutral Zone
Extra evidence is provided Bridge Confusion In The Air
Dive deep
The "All Matey"
Archangel
That, they can be!
In Training For...
Everything for a reason
What Shall We Call It?
"The Brain"
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...87235#p1087235
A Black HoleYou create whatever experience you will have in the next phase based upon the type of personality you shaped your self into during this one.
Those Who Can
To bring what one is not conscious of, into one’s conscious awareness
Which
Giving birth
Code
A Clean Channel
Infinity
Creating Gateways Into Other Dimensions
Overall
That's More Like It
Earn
That is because every day, I am adding to the data - and it is a slow and sure process.
"Generative adversarial network"
Wide Walk Welcoming
Self-Aware
Universal Mind
Far Out! Shucks! Explain!
A Mathematical Theory of Communication Fearless
Are Close Save That
It Would Be Rude Not To
Heart Teachers
Of Your Thoughts
Mirroring
Nurture You
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...93698#p1093698
Emergent Theoryt
The challenge of reconciling belief in an omnipotent, omnibenevolent, and omniscient God, with the existence of evil and suffering in the world, is illusionary.
Smile at fear
Hacking through the subconsciousness
"Generative adversarial network"
Pitchforks and Torches
"I think it was an ambush or surprise attack" = An Opportunity To Commune
Light the spark
The Earth Entity
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...71422#p1071422
GM: Creation of a New UniverseWilliam: One simply has to love oneself and ones neighbor... where is that written, other than within one's heart.Christian: But Scripture says that we must love Jehovah our God first of all, and then our neighbor.William: That's what I was saying, when I wrote;
However, I do not have one name for my God. I have many names [including YHVH] for The Cosmic Mind of Creation.How can one love others if one does not love oneself? How can one love oneself if one does not love one's God?
Christian: Those with no knowledge of scripture today cannot obey the first commandment.William: Unsupported statements do not, a fact [truth] make.
Indeed, ‘You must love The Creator with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole strength and with your whole mind’ is something folk can do, even if they have no access to any religious script.
The other biblical quotes bear witness to how individuals related to their idea of God - in love...indeed, the bible is mostly a books of stories to do with this inter-personal relationship.
And to add - many of those individuals did not even have access to what you are saying is 'Scripture' - so it would not be errant of me to point out that there is no concrete evidence to support the belief that knowledge of scripture is a commandment, even implicatively.
Certainly one can find inspiration for wanting to connect and commune, but this is simply not limited to the bible - thus quite obviously there is no such commandment that scripture be known, in order for one to connect and commune with The Creator Mind [Ghost] - therefore the knowledge must be sourced elsewhere, and primarily it must be sourced within the relationship itself - not to the stories of others [as inspiring as these might be] but to ones own story in relation with others.
Sky Lamps
Here Am I Is Where I Ought - Examining My Conscious Thought
Sensory Data Quality
The Purpose
The Hub Of Hologram Dimensions
Returning the Compliment
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...81803#p1081803
William: FTL;
GM: "Generative adversarial network"[Replying to brunumb in post #151]We know that if we stand on the moon, and look at the planet, there is no immediate evidence of the planet being an intelligent entity, producing myriad forms of intelligent life.
Positive statements imply a claim is being made. Do you have any evidence to support the claim that the planet is not an intelligent entity?Probably because the planet is not intelligent entity.
It is when we get closer to it - and find life and examine life and see the intelligence therein, that we can return to the moon and observe an intelligent planet. Not because it looks any different from the way it did when we first observed it from the moon - but rather - because we accumulated a lot of information about it through closer examination, and the effect of that data in that interim, changed our original perceptions of the Earth.No they do not, and I don't understand where it is you think I am saying this is the case.But those changes to our original perceptions of the Earth do not lead to the conclusion that it is an intelligent entity.
What it leads to is that the possibility that one equals the other, allows for the possibility that it is, and therefore, information regarding the possibility remains relevant to the position of Agnosticism.
That door remains open to further investigation.
That idea remains on the table.
The sort of confirmation bias which Agnosticism avoids are those which develop within the positions of Theism and Nontheism.Sure, there are intelligent species everywhere but no compelling reason to conclude that intelligence extends beyond those species. Unless, of course, one is predisposed to leaping to unwarranted conclusions or applying some sort of confirmation bias.
The "unwarranted conclusion" in this case, would be to view the obvious intelligence being displayed, as "not really a display of intelligence." but "something else" such as "The planet isn't really an intelligent entity, but is simply unconsciously responding to the stimulus of its environment."
It is what it is
The Things You Do...
A New Perspective
Working on that...
This Should Be Interesting Being Friends Inner child
"Generative adversarial network"
Opinion
A Bridge Over Time
"Is this a dream that I think is real?"
In Human Form
09:35
[Befriending the shadow
Astral Projection
Something Like That
Source Intelligence
Superposition
Dungeons and Dragons
God's Love Direction
Mapping Wholeness
Fear of the Unknown]
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10-19-2022 08:48 PM #290
Q: Why did YVHV create this universe and specifically place human beings within it for the purpose of us exploring, breeding and subduing the planet?
A: To grow Human Personalities.
[318]
"The Queen died peacefully at Balmoral..."
Spacetime doesn’t really exist
A: To grow Human Personalities.
A complex and tricky undertaking...
The Shifting Models of Existence
A life sentence ending in a death sentence
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131022 [Solving Mathematical problems] [304]
SCLx7 + select last LE per shuffle
[Preamble]
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...87906#p1087906 -
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...82379#p1082379[Replying to Diogenes in post #230]
I am procuring information which helps me scientifically delve into the world of consciousness.
Re: Generating Messages
Example
This amounts to evidence which can be studied, and for that matter, what I am publishing here are on other forums is of interest to readers.
Your personal lack of interest is of no interest to me any more than your 'tiredness' in 'trying to explain' is, as I get my explanations from better sources...
"The past and the future are moments of 'now' - to deny they have no bearing on this moment, is counter-productive" - Ship Shape - Quantum Jumping - Let Go - Peace out!Re: The mind as evidence of god
Nontheist: So then we see, the claim in the OP can't be shown to be true and factual.William: Yes. I also observe that it cannot be shown to be false and fanciful.
AP= [=Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...7939#p1077939]
[Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz https://debatingchristianity.com/for...77939#p1077939 = 949]
[949]
[Nine Four Nine = 144]
[144]
Up to scratch
Rationality
Dying? Use Mind
Ten Insights
Inspiration
Expression
Multiverse
Strange Desire
Tremulous [shaking or quivering slightly. timid; nervous.]
William Cleaning
Transponder [a device for receiving a radio signal and automatically transmitting a different signal.]
Real friendship
Serendipity
That's a good one
Zombie Jesus
Synesthesia [the production of a sense impression relating to one sense or part of the body by stimulation of another sense or part of the body.]
Textnum code
Astral Pulse
Look Closely
RSP = SCLx7+ A: *To grow Human Personalities*. +P&P+ Quote Page 144
Page 144
08:23 [Personal Integrity]GM: Regulate
Steps
In The Flow
Be Taught
♫You are a thought worth thinking You’re the water and the wine - you’re the cup from which I’m drinking You’re a surprise worth hoping for You are a captured moment - you’re a space without a time♫
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...81284#p1081284
Creation of a New Universe
The Unknown Knowable
Military
♫Sanctified love’s joyful lust with ever movement Every thrust and every loss of sexual tension♫
Give
The idea of benevolence comes after the idea of evil.
Is it not the quality of the message that counts, rather than the name of the entity the message comes from?
Until
The nature of understanding...Love Life
Universe
The Plateau of The Same Page
Trust issues?
'Lack of empathy'
Contemplative
Ugly is just "in the eye of the beholder" as is Beauty.
Most folk need moderating.
Warm Presence Freeing the soul Absolutely Perfectly Beautiful.
Would you agree with this assessment, so far?
Karma
Do It
Stuck
Pixie Farts create Pixel parts
♫Down through the ages - dark in the gloom Many convinced it will all end in doom The Galactic Garden is forever in bloom♫ Central to The Message
Another Mind Open
Are
It’s a living thing
Message Generator System of Random Selection of Word-Strings
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...94523#p1094523
Techniques
Respect yourself
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...94529#p1094529
Telling the future
Fearlessness neutralizes fear
Believing in fearful imagery
The evolution of the understanding of the idea of GOD
♫All Is As It Should Be♫
Little Self
Naked truth
The Great Grey Neutral Zone
Yes - I Hear You
Hell
GM: Relaxed and informal...
Children of The Light
Tales From Topographic Oceans
The Dark Night of The Soul
Those Who Can
Thel
Mathematical Problems"Does the Eagle know what is in the pit?
Or wilt thou go ask the Mole:
Can Wisdom be put in a silver rod?
Or Love in a golden bowl?"
Yahweh
REAL Friendship
Phosphenes [a sensation of a ring or spot of light produced by pressure on the eyeball or direct stimulation of the visual system other than by light.]
"The sea is indeed filled with a deranged assortment of critters"
10 Insights
It is not a great answer, because we do not know that is true.THE FIRST INSIGHT . . . A CRITICAL MASS
A new spiritual awakening is occurring in human culture, an awakening brought about by a critical mass of individuals who experience their lives as a spiritual unfolding, a journey in which we are led forward by mysterious coincidences.
Noticing Synchronicity
SYNCHRONICITY is the entry point, the measure of whether we’re connected spiritually. These “meaningful coincidences” are tiny miracles steering us toward the good life. They are always seeking first, to awaken us, and then to allow us to be guided by a spiritual connection to the unfolding of our intended destiny. Staying in a state of alert expectation concerning the major questions of our lives, or the help we need, increases the frequency of Synchronistic answers. The secret is remembering, first thing in the morning, to watch for these magical Synchronistic moments.
William: So we test it to see if it works. If it works, at least it is true that it works...
GM: Dimensional Crossovers
*A: To grow Human Personalities.*
Down Your Way
Insidious
Things
William: For the opinion from YVHV that human personalities are insidious things would be a generalization...more weeds than useful but still useful for some things...
GM: Sunlight
Trust the Universe
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...37619#p1037619
GM: https://debatingchristianity.com/for...89442#p1089442William: [3] A "Person" is an eternal Spirit in human form and when the body dies, that Spirit immediately moves to the next phase and either knowingly or unknowingly creates for their self, their next experience, based upon a combination of mainly what they believe, what their overall attitude is and what they did in the previous phase.
Often any different position which opposes another might logically mean that they both cannot be correct, assuming one or the other is true.
Both [1]&[2] fall into this category as they cannot both be true. [1]&[2] also both agree that [3] is false.
However, [3] Can be true without making the other two false.
GM: CreationTheist: Self-causation is illogical and, therefore, not possible.
Nontheist: Yet you require no illogical tag when you propose an uncaused god we can't observe as the cause of a universe we do observe.
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:-k : As we should already agree together, since for the present, science informs us that the universe had a beginning, we have to apply the argument "Self-causation is illogical and, therefore, not possible." to that which has a beginning.
Gods come in all shapes and sizes and there are probably myths about gods who had beginnings and gods who's lives could be ended.
However, there is also the myth of the GOD who had no beginning and in that, is the root-cause of all things which do have beginnings.
Therefore;
As an observer, the theist is correct in this case.
"Self-causation is illogical and, therefore, not possible" does not apply to a GOD who has always existed.
That said, nor would it apply to a universe which has always existed...once the popular beliefs that the universe had a beginning, have been shown [through science of course] to be false...
Freeing the soul
Exploring
Self-talk Root of all evil
A Stroke of Luck
Reflect
Healing
Code
Obstacle
Fearful Imaginations
https://www.thespaceacademy.org/2022...gBEE2etWxtGAM8
William: This idea does not have to produce fear/fearful imaginings within the personality...Could a planet like Earth have a mind of its own if it can be "alive" like that?
GM: https://debatingchristianity.com/for...81812#p1081812
GM: Universal ObjectivesWilliam: Point being, wherever this sleight of hand originated, it is high time it was pinned to the table and dissected for the sake of clarity and the truthfulness clarity provides us all with.
That would be the reasonable thing to do.
The Hounds of Judgement Numbing The Power Of Creation
In The Correct Position
All The World
Treasure To Find
Heroes and Villains
Miraculous
Team
One's thoughts
Sweet Hush
Be Honest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaXpDsjVumk [YAHWEH | Shocking Truth Behind The Original Bible Story!] [RTS=23:19]
GM: Connecting The DotsThe "Us" is The Elohim, in the original telling of the story
How stories are created...
Try
Sovereignty
Focus Vehicle One Day Select Take Care Israel YHWH In the Flow
Family
The Second Coming
William: The Elohim = "The Family" re "The Second Coming"
GM: The Cave Maps
Training
William: Re the individual and ones relationship with YVHV/Elohim...
GM: A Bit Of Both Yes
Imposed Appropriates Observed
Telos [an ultimate object or aim.]
One is not wrong
Dream Cake
On all fronts
That
Wonderful
Who Knows
Deeper Questions Regarding Individual Existence
Understand few reach self awareness
Arms Crossed
Builder
The Cooperation Strategy
I Ensure The Hierarchy Serves It's Purpose
Astonishment
Behind The Veil You Are All Loveable...
Polite?
I Suppose That It Is Possible
*A: To grow Human Personalities.*
What Is Friendship?
Blind Luck?
The Brain Is Trained To recognize Patterns
Tracks In The Snow
Putting yourself back together again Glow Softly Strengthen your boundaries One can simply shrug and tell oneself “It doesn't really matter"
The Body of God
I Know
Cymatics [the study of visible sound and vibration, a subset of modal phenomena]
The Spirit of The Earth - In an environment which is able to perceive this - It's a plausible scenario
Like an interface representation
William: Yes - something we can sense with our forms...
GM: Each To Their Own
William: Yes - the individual has to connect with it consciously...
GM: "Despite all the dangers, Hess lands safely"
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...82466#p1082466
GM:Tzevaot [armies or hosts of men - interpreted as denoting "the God of the armies of Israel"]William: The "stirring up" that occurs from this energy system causes a simulation which can be /is being experienced.
The result - more often than not - is the 'guru vision' emergent of theistic contemplations and that vision is feed back into the mechanics of the simulation-producing thing we call "energy".
There is no real point to feeding back such information unless that "energy" is somehow aware.
That implied 'consciousness'.
The parchments are simply individual expressions of guru-vision whereby having faith that the energy is mindful, seems to increase the feedback, inferring that perhaps indeed - a mind is responding...
GM: Through the building up of the collected data to the point where it can be examined......is The Subject which is being taught, being said to be true or false...
The Divine:
"Ah - The Mechanics
The Timeless Proton"
The only thing the Holy Ghost is unable to forgive, is that which individuals are unable to forgive of themselves
The concept of a Higher Self...
The Planet Consciousness assess the data and transmits that assessment back to the individuate human consciousness - if not directly - then storing the data in a place where the individual can have access to it, if the individual wants the data.
Watch Your Step
You may be Psychic, not mentally ill.
[God Eat Data Heal Cub]
William: Indeed - as the data is assimilated by the individual, the individual can heal from the trauma of being grown to be a personality - the personality heals as the data is integrated with the personalities awareness.
...to be continued...
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10-24-2022 08:37 PM #291
GM: "Astral Guides" Ruling your world..."Chaos Really Is Illusion"
Starve The Distractions Feed The Focus
Duty Calls
Part of the 'waiting' is developing skills and this involves demonstrating aggression and willingness to fight, rather than procrastinating or expecting the food to be delivered rather than going and finding it for ones self.
Each Individual
Accept
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...74309#p1074309
GM: You Are Nobodies Victim Ever.William: Zero makes the mathematics work...but if zero [representing nothing] is a fraudulent necessity, then perhaps the interpretation of mathematics is incorrect, and perhaps the reason mathematic works [is correct] is because the zero isn't really representing nothing, so much as it represents something which is not detectable but still exists as something.
Heart advice
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...92252#p1092252
Christian: The account in Job simply shows that the Adversary is the cause of some suffering.William: And this has not been denied by me. Rather, I pointed out that the Adversary - as far as Hebrew understanding is, part of what YHWH uses and any suffering of humans caused by such adversity is obviously less important - secondary - to the primary interactions between YHWH and that which YHWH created for the purpose of causing adversity re humans.
William: Re 'Growing Human Personalities' - Adversity is essential to the recipe of gaining the integration between the human personality and the YVHV personality...
GM: "Time To Go Without Existence"
William: This seems to be a desired alternative for some personalities who are repulsed by the very idea...often expressed through nontheism as "When my brain dies, I will no longer exist"....
GM: The problem of evil
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...79367#p1079367
William: I do not think there was any more interaction between me and the nontheist re that...Re: The Biblical God's conduct and culpability
Nontheist: I realize that if I were all-knowing and all-powerful, I would be free from all constraints and my will won't be determined by my genes, environments, nutrients and experiences.William: Let us examine this idea together then.
I see immediately that if I were all-knowing. I would be constrained by my omniscience.
Thus I would have no free will in relation to being all knowing.
Yet - being also all-powerful, I would be able to break free from the constraints of being all-knowing.
Would you agree with this assessment, so far?
GM: Nontheism - the result of misguided interpretation of Theism
Strictly Human
Spiritual Preparedness
Asking Politely
"What Is Normal Here-and-now Be it a "God" or a "Devil". Integrating Integrity"
The Burning, talking bush.
*A: To grow Human Personalities.*
[Changes mind when truth is presented]
*Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing*
On To It
William: On To It Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing = 669
[Six Six Nine = 146]
[146]
Invisible Bridge
On all fronts
The Comet Ison
Manifestation
Relationship
Realities Merge
Transparent
Sleeping Dragon
No axe to grind...
True Colors
The Mother Bandage
Enlightenment
Interoperate [the setup of ad hoc components and methods to make two or more systems work together as a combined system with some partial functionality during a certain time, possibly requiring human supervision to perform necessary adjustments and corrections]
GM: Family of origin
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...91558#p1091558
GM: Somewhere
Foundation
Internal motivation
Escape Unsupported statements that are neither useful to science or to good argument.
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...73548#p1073548
GM: MusicTheist: I think spirit is like attitude and also awareness.William: To the extent that these are things, they're emergent properties of a mind.
If attitude and personality are 'things' - then 'things' are not always physical.
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...89733#p1089733
Imposed Appropriates ObservedThat Atheism can be "misused in debate to try to prove atheism blinkered, illogical or even non -existent" is not really about the understood meaning of Atheism but about conflating the variety of atheists opinions with Atheism as also being a position of opinion.
Funny
Logos – word reason plan
Digging deep
Stuff
Fearlessness neutralizes fear
"What has been established beyond reasonable doubt, is that it is illogical that something that is derived from something that isn't, which firmly places the idea of a Creator/Creation at the center of reasonable discussion."
Shaman
Everything is The Expression Of The Creator
Self-esteem
Intent
Sovereign Integral Perspective
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...73573#p1073573
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXlfjzl-CFw [Combatting Anti-Science with Richard Dawkins] [RTS=37:03]What you appear to be saying underneath all that, is that it is truly random. That in itself is the Scotsman fallacy - so has to be taken as such - and what is being used to 'measure' this with?
It seems to me that the device being used for that purpose is the assumption that there is such a thing as true random, and thus, based in fallacy.
♫The picture unfolds like silk in a loom Silhouetted by Diane are the witch and the broom If she is the bride - who is the groom?♫The ethics of science Who should be tasked with establishing any kind of ethical code?
"Pinch and Rub"
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...87897#p1087897
GM: Like mindful nests with eggs in 'emWilliam: Atheists are not exempt from having in company, weird folk who make outlandish statements about theistic notions.
Even ex-Christian atheists give it a shot to try to educate the ignorance in their midst.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rR7jTgfpSk
Apparently believing in something as TRUE allows one the right not to be referred to as a "liar" however, how much grace need be given if folk refuse to investigate before making sweeping belief-based statements? [regardless of which side is making them].
How much of a period should folk be allowed to have to investigate after being informed that their belief-based "truth"-statements require working on?
The Bridge of Forgiveness
https://news.berkeley.edu/2017/06/13...born-in-pairs/
GM: Hidden In Plain SightAstronomers have even searched for a companion to our sun, a star dubbed Nemesis because it was supposed to have kicked an asteroid into Earth’s orbit that collided with our planet and exterminated the dinosaurs. It has never been found.
The new assertion is based on a radio survey of a giant molecular cloud filled with recently formed stars in the constellation Perseus, and a mathematical model that can explain the Perseus observations only if all sunlike stars are born with a companion.
“We are saying, yes, there probably was a Nemesis, a long time ago,” said co-author Steven Stahler, a UC Berkeley research astronomer.
“We ran a series of statistical models to see if we could account for the relative populations of young single stars and binaries of all separations in the Perseus molecular cloud, and the only model that could reproduce the data was one in which all stars form initially as wide binaries. These systems then either shrink or break apart within a million years.”
William: And found by humans doing the science...
GM: Mixture
Numbers
*A: To grow Human Personalities.*
Make It Real
It is not about what is written, but rather - why it is about what was written
Sclerotic [becoming rigid and unresponsive; losing the ability to adapt.]
Commitment
July Nineteen Fifty Two Washington DC
GM: Nevertheless[From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia]
1952 Washington, D.C., UFO incident
From July 12 to 29, 1952, a series of unidentified flying object (UFO) sightings were reported in Washington, D.C., and later became known as the Washington flap, the Washington National Airport Sightings, or the Invasion of Washington.[1] The most publicized sightings took place on consecutive weekends, July 19–20 and July 26–27. UFO historian Curtis Peebles called the incident "the climax of the 1952 (UFO) flap" - "Never before or after did Project Blue Book and the Air Force undergo such a tidal wave of (UFO) reports."[2]
The Elohim
Practical application
...to be continued...
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10-25-2022 08:44 PM #292
Love Your Life
Sharing Data
Do It
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K131c0ABUus
GM: Finishing What Was StartedIn this video, we show you a brief summary of our interview with Tricia Barker about her NDE Near Death Experience, where she discusses crossing over.
Integral Network
Believe
Is the mind a construct of consciousness?
What Jesus Messaged
What The Gods See
How stories are created...
William: What Jesus Messaged What The Gods See How stories are created... = 589
[589]
If you think you can handle the truth, well here it is folks
What Jesus Messaged What The Gods See How stories are created...
Have you done this yourself, and if so - what have you found?
"You expose my atheism for the agnosticism it really is."
Old Restrained Overseeing Director of Operations on Earth
GM: https://debatingchristianity.com/for...84228#p1084228
GM: Text2Num.William: Q: How is Energy produced by Consciousness? [What is the fundamental nature of Energy?]
William: How is Energy produced by Consciousness? [What is the fundamental nature of Energy?] = 834
Spirit is that which creates the sound which forms the matter into coherent order. = 834
GM: Communications Device
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD4jHDvNB80 [Bob Dylan - Death Is Not the End] [RTS=305]
Limitations or Liberations?Just remember that death is not the end
Where life and death is part of a circle and everything is part of the Ouroboros
Fierce
“Three worlds and three deep mysteries”
Blue Book Project
Shuffle List
Vocables
Falling asleep
Mysterious process Real Beauty
Zen
In The Open
The power of emotions
*A: To grow Human Personalities.*
We Are All Becoming One
Wait for the Navigator to respond...
Hope in the Fog
Believing in fearful imagery
Loved
The resistance is generally traceable to the theistic approach of religionizing said intelligent mind.
Commendably Recommendable
To like it or not, one must judge it
The Unknown Knowable
Everything/All
Does Armageddon have to be? The answer is in you and me
Mystical does not mean miraculous - yet both are able to be demystified.
EQ
Extra evidence is provided
Enlighten Discussion Forum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baN48zhFGzY [WINGMAKERS JAMES INTERVIEW 2013] [RTS=1:05:48]
I am an atheist in relation to anyone's interpretation of characterizations of any gods.
Shadow Volunteer
Everything is an expression of GOD
Overwhelming I would say... With Free-spirit a Brilliant Great Answer!
It is a hard place for flesh to dwell.
Dust To Dust we cannot linger for long hereabouts....
Through the building up of the collected data to the point where it can be examined......is The Subject which is being taught, being said to be true or false...
Escape Unsupported statements that are neither useful to science or to good argument.
The entity consciousness which is Mother Earth - is "The Creator" of the forms from Her Belly
Categorising Knowledge in Terms of 'Good' or 'Evil'
Dream journal
The Grey Area
Hyperbole
*A: To grow Human Personalities.*
Validation
Recommendable
Translate
Collective Consciousness Inner work Put the Teachings Into Practice
This Is Part Of The Job
Even that it took an actual mind operating with language, to make such a statement.
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...89192#p1089192
Crying Over Spilt Milk
GM: Golden nugget of truthWilliam: I think that nontheists strongly defend their position on the question as to whether or not we exist within a creation - to the point that they believe we don't and make claims about that - has something to do with the need to say "I told you so" now, because it will be too late to utter such belief-based expressions - after they are dead and gone.
I can see the attraction from a phycological perspective, but saying "I told you so" before any such thing has been established, is jumping the gun, and might even lead to embarrassment if it turns out one still exists after the fact ones brain has died.
Still, such is the power of belief-based positions. They tend toward making proclamations which imply established truth, when no such truth has been established.
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...79959#p1079959
William: FTL;
GM: In Human Form[Replying to Diogenes in post #4]
It appears that here, you are relying upon an image of GOD which we can agree comes through the particular culture you and I came through experience of.Because we actually ARE, and are not God, therefore this impossibly omniscient/omnipontent God can not exist.
I see also that you have included the factor of all-powerfulness too.
Critique of this image has merit, but no merit if the critique is simply focused on GOD not existing.
Thus it could be argued that we are within and experiencing the thoughts of GOD and what we experience and call "reality" is actually GOD thinking thoughts.Diogenes: For this Biblical 'God' to think is to create.
Unless we are actually GOD, in which case GOD can exist.Diogenes: Because we actually ARE, and are not God, therefore this impossibly omniscient/omnipontent God can not exist.
Biblically this idea of "The Breath of GOD" equates to GOD-Consciousness giving life to the imagined forms and thus experiencing those form from those forms particular subjective places in the overall thoughts of GOD.
This concept also bleeds over into the Eastern Culture of Humanity - many of which already stipulate GOD inseparable from Creation...although it could also be said that Creation is inseparable from GOD.
An all-powerful GODs thoughts could create this Universe...
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...79719#p1079719
A Bridge Over Time
For Your Greater Enjoyment
The Language of Innocence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBxTiZIzg08 [Enochian Magic and Language - Livestream Discussion] [RTS=1:32:30]
William: Being thankful and showing thanks for work done.
GM: The Realm of The Knowing of My Self Spacetime is not fundamental
One has to take care to process the thoughts of the inner critic making sure that they align with the truth.
The Source of All Creation
Gods Gift
The Blank-Slate Borderlines
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...84036#p1084036
GM: PhenomenonKonsciencia: For example: in my own truth, Lucifer is The Universe, but no one will accept that. So, they go with their own truth of how they see Lucifer. Also, Lucifer is more a Woman in my view! Which is awesome! I know for sure that The Illuminati has those Ancient text that explains what we were, but there's no actual truth.
William: Truth may not be a fundamental aspect of the universe. Relative truth can be useful to the individual for the purpose of assisting the individual with understanding the fundamental nature of this reality [and alternate realities] being experienced.
With Lucifer, the connect is there also in the Sophia mythology - and Lucifer might represent to Sophia, [macro] what Jung's Archetypes represent to us [micro].
Given the mythology surrounding Lucifer, did Lucifer attempt a coup with the purpose of deception in mind?
Such questions cannot be answered in any way which might satisfy the questioner with the truth.
The solution is to always aim for the top as it were - Sophia is the primary Universal Entity re the mythology - Lucifer appears later on. Is Lucifer working with or against Sophia? Is it even possible to work against Sophia? How do such answers to such question help us individuals?
Apparently Sophia has Parents. If so, this adds to the hierarchal structure in that 'there is more to the story than meets the eye of one's understanding.'
We move onwards...
Konsciencia: Yes... I forgot about The Sophia aspect of The Universe. However, I always say that The Universe is more a Woman, than a Man's kingdom. For example: in my view, Lucifer is a Woman (most often.) In other words, God is a Woman. I do feel a peaceful, and Loving Feminine Vibe whenever I conversate with The Universe.
New Shifts In Thinking
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...89442#p1089442
William: FTL;
GM: Nature two sides of the same coinTheist: Self-causation is illogical and, therefore, not possible.
Atheist: Yet you require no illogical tag when you propose an uncaused god we can't observe as the cause of a universe we do observe.
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:-k : As we should already agree together, since for the present, science informs us that the universe had a beginning, we have to apply the argument "Self-causation is illogical and, therefore, not possible." to that which has a beginning.
Gods come in all shapes and sizes and there are probably myths about gods who had beginnings and gods who's lives could be ended.
However, there is also the myth of the GOD who had no beginning and in that, is the root-cause of all things which do have beginnings.
Therefore;
As an observer, the theist is correct in this case.
"Self-causation is illogical and, therefore, not possible" does not apply to a GOD who has always existed.
That said, nor would it apply to a universe which has always existed...once the popular beliefs that the universe had a beginning, have been shown [through science of course] to be false...
Your Dream Team
OOBE
Talking the talk
Illuminating
Skills
Message Generator System of Random Selection of Word-Strings
"From the link"
Conception
Carry
God1
An Ancient Truthful Wisdom
Hiding out in the barn
Tremulous
William: ♫Who disturbs the horses in the barn♫
GM: Far/Distant
The Human Form as a Means to an End
Jump To Conclusions
Now isn't the time for tears
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...88936#p1088936
[quote]There Is More To The Silence Than Meets The EarNak: Do you think energy counts as an object or not?
William: We don't know, because we don't have access to that information.
Nak: It's just a matter of semantic, what do you personally classify energy into the category of objects?
William: Far as I can ascertain, energy is like a Ghost as in we cannot see it. Unlike a ghost, we know it exists due to its invisible quality creating an effect [QF Ripple] and causing the reality [physical universe] to appear.
Energy is obviously an object of some kind as it is able to effect the QF, and so it must have some type of physical property in order to do that.
What type of object that is though, we cannot say because we do not know.
[It may even be conscious, and able to manufacture what it wants, from the endless QT.]
*A: To grow Human Personalities.*
Disrupt Vortex Television
Beaming Out Beaming In
Intent
Look Closely Talk George Adamski Insidious Clumsy
Mahu Nahi
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...75987#p1075987
William: How To Bruise A Ghost
GM: https://debatingchristianity.com/for...77445#p1077445
William: FTL;
GM: The Message Generating Process allows for said Mind to speak for itself, and show itself to exist. As such, this is adequate evidence - the sort of evidence a sceptic calls for in relation to the subject of Intelligent Design. Originally Posted by AgnosticBoy post_id=1077445 time=1652385820 user_id=13726
What is represented in the whole is the evolution of God within the structure of the physical Universe.
Inner child
The Riders
The Astral Body
Accept
I have no reason not to trust that the thought was backed with good intentions.
Self-mastery
Taxonomic [concerned with the classification of things, especially organisms.]
One should not take the evidence as incontrovertible for granted, as we should always apply science to any evidence and test it for repeatability.
“Never let the fear of striking out keep you from playing the game”
Apotheosis [the highest point in the development of something; a culmination or climax. the elevation of someone to divine status.]
Dohrman Prophecy Book Introduction
Shift Focus
The Matrix
Obstacle
___________
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10-26-2022 11:26 PM #293
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...96595#p1096595
251022 [Intelligence Without Wisdom] [314]
SCLx8 + select last LE per shuffle
[Preamble]
The Brain - As I said, it is not so much how each individual interprets any particular GM - either coming from me or you or anyone else - Rather it is the fact that a message is generated. - A Sturdy Place - Dance - Leave a Trail - https://debatingchristianity.com/for...iewprofile&u=3 - The Message Generator Process
AP= [=The Dolphins and Whales IF: there is a Cosmic Mind THEN: Eventually, any species which survives long enough to continue along with the unfolding universe will eventually discover that and invent ways in which to engage. = 2172]
[Two One Seven Two = 215]
[215]
I will leave that there
Without Judgement
Sad Room to Explore
Freedom in The Knowing
Thoughts and Forts
Staying up all night
Tired of the Nonsense
What matters most
Batten down the hatches
Beyond Belief Recovery
RSP = SCLx + https://debatingchristianity.com/for...96595#p1096595 + P&P
12:00 [Intimate On All Levels]
GM: Panpsychist [panpsychism is the view that the mind or a mindlike aspect is a fundamental and ubiquitous feature of reality. ]
Leave room for nature
It Is One Of Those Things
Active Imagination (see technique)
Interoperate
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...73756#p1073756
What matters mostIF
There is an actual Cosmic Mind
THEN eventually such scientist will discover it.
Forgive
Those internal things which make one shine
Quantum Mechanics
It's a fish eats fish world...going landy doesn't change the fact that things are fleeing from things which are fleeing and as nature would have it, how is this more immoral than funny?
Completely
International Skeptics Forum - View Single Post - The Seed of Origin
Functional ImplantsPixel: For a start, it tells me that words like 'object' and 'seed' are actively misleading when trying to describe it. It tells me that the phrase "caused the universe to come into existence" is also the wrong one to use. It tells me, in short, that the English language is inadequate to that task.William: Pixel is explaining to me that whatever 'IT' was [because it obviously existed] can not be described as a physical thing. To do so it to 'lie' about it.
Assuming for the present that Pixel42 is only saying that Pixel42 is unable to use the English language to describe what 'IT' is, we can be grateful that Isaac can and does, in his The Final Question" story.
Furthermore, I can also do this.
"IT" was the absolute sum total of all data [knowledge] contained within the absolute consciousness of something so infinitesimally tiny that "IT" cannot be considered to be physical in nature.
That is "The Singularity" scientist are referring to.
Collective Consciousness Inner work Put the Teachings Into Practice
Extra Sensory Perception
The Mystic Forest
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...96595#p1096595
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...91105#p1091105Q: I’m not sure I understand your question. What does the “logic of something which is alternative” mean?A: It means that when there is an alternative given, that can be examined, logically.
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...87714#p1087714Exactly! It is not expected that in the affairs between YHWH and Satan, that humans need be consulted before they are used re said affairs. This theme and it's variants run through the Bible in relation to the God and Human beings.
William: You create whatever experience you will have in the next phase based upon the type of personality you shaped your self into during this one.amortalmanWhat you described is not Biblical, and we're discussing the Bible here. You are throwing oranges in my basket of apples.
William: The many varied belief systems involved with Christianity/Christian interpretations of biblical script are a bit like navigating through a mystical forest...
GM: Sun energy
Telepathy [the communication of impressions of any kind from one mind to another, independently of the recognized channels of sense.]
"Off you go to your quarters"
Enchanted
Disagreeable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qWweOIOTJ4 [Is Life a Game ? Alan Watts about the Happening of Existence] RTS [3:59]
The OverarchingWhich level of magnification is the correct view? Obviously they are all correct...
Insignificant
The Way We Feel Unification
...and the way forward, eyes wide open
The ongoing objective is to get this knowledge out into the public domain
Simple
Inordinately [to an unusually or disproportionately large degree; excessively.]
The Elephant
Beyond Focus 4
Intelligent Consciousness
All lifeBeyond Focus 4: other systems
I have been asked several times if there is anything 'beyond' Focus 4. The answer is, to my knowledge, within our particular system there are just 4 Primary areas. But consciousness doesn't end there. Consciousness is infinite. There may well be an infinite number of other systems either like ours or perhaps wildly different. Nobody to my knowledge knows anything about these potential other systems.
Monroe talks of 'Focus 34/35', but as I have said earlier, I believe that Monroe was experiencing something else. I believe his F35 experiences were actually relating to areas of our Wider Physical, where alternate physical dimensions (within our F1 to F4 system) seem to converge. Ha ha, no wonder I couldn't find it!
The interesting aspect about these other physical worlds within our system and the weird thing about them, is that they all occupy the same physical space. The actual characteristics of the different physical dimensions within our system can be wildly different but they all have this one thing in common, in that they occupy the same space. Anyhow, what 'separates' them, if you like, are these Trans-Dimensional areas in consciousness that allows each physical universe to overlay on one another.
Now, I have it on good authority that it IS possible to 'travel' between Trans-Dimensional areas; when I say travel I mean actual physical travel. It is also possible to do this non-physically as well, so I am told. So my theory is that these UFO sightings might in fact be a kind of 'bleed through' from another Trans-Dimensional area: an area that has people living within it who have already learned how to design some kind of craft with the ability to travel between physical dimensions.
Anyway, back to the potential for other systems outside of our own F1 to F4 model:
From reading Monroe's later work, I wonder where the heck he was sometimes. He was way out, but not in Focus 4 terms. There was something else. Seriously, I reckon he was about to attempt to step into *another* system of consciousness from Focus 3: entering into an 'Extra-Dimensional' state that is outside of our F1 to F4 system completely: that is what I have been trying to study for ages, the possibility of these Extra-Dimensional areas. I reckon that is why his physical was put at risk. Okay, I’m guessing now, I admit, but I am going to completely retrace his footsteps in the future.
If he were trying to enter another dimension totally, i.e. another system, then that is just incredible. That is not Focus 3, 4 or 5, that is just completely into the unknown...and I mean total unknown. Unless he was attempting to enter Focus 4 while holding a complete objective knowing of that fact. That would just be crazy. You’d just be short-circuiting every subjective energy circuit that ever was. I doubt anyone could have the objective will to do that; just too many natural laws against you.
I just wonder what on earth he found and what secrets there are still to be unlocked from Monroe. I’m going to begin again from page one and work through it until that final piece of the jigsaw falls into place.
Frank Kepple Resource
Dream journal
Re the hard-nosed skeptics
There is nothing wrong with 'disorder' other than one interpreting the universe as disorderly.
Be they seeds or suns, or be it that suns are seeds, it is all part of the universe, and everything that we acknowledge as the universe, came from a tiny seed.
Your Own Individual Actions
Wide Walk Welcoming
Once Upon a Time Here, there, everywhere a 'bang bang'
William: Yet again, this reminds me of the visuals we get from the Mandelbrot Set.
[12:37]
[Tributary Zones]
More to follow...
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GM: Inner work
The ride is wild
Contact
Watchful
Equals
Vagitus
Not a Problem!
Perhaps we can deconstruct some of these pernicious views.
Transformation
A Judgmental System
Mapping Wholeness
How to effectively deal with anger...not by ignoring it, but through understanding it and developing means by which it - as an externalized emotional-based energy - can be transformed into something more appropriate to the situation we find ourselves lost within.
Something Our movements can illuminate the path toward that vision.
Pulling its own weight
Prison Planet
The Ruru
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...96595#p1096595
Read On
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...87668#p1087668
The Number One Nine TwoWilliam: While we who walk through life hereabouts all head towards our experience of bodily deaths, we are best not to run away from it screaming...might as well use our time here to prepare for that inevitable.
Christ IS the hope that death is not the end of conscious experience...and that said continued experience is a happier one than the previous monstrosity.
So we diligently pick the fruit we enjoy the most, which sorts folk into various categories in preparation for the inevitable...and the living support the living in their understanding that life might be all that there ever can be and is.
I myself prefer the thrill of seeing Mother Earth as She truly is - some demonic-like entity who has been manifesting Her particular projections out into that which She is awakening to - slowly and surely... and in the process, I hope to witness therein a transformation of a demon-like entity into a god-like entity...and be a part of that rather than dressing it up n too much fluff that I distort things far too impractically.
[search 192 spiritual]
GM: What is the meaning of life?
Left -brain Right brain Whole brain
Stop. Listen. Observe.
Luminous
Fireside Friend
The Way of the Bodhisattva
Knowledge
Move On
A bit of a gooficity.
Pareidolia
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...82469#p1082469
The Doom of SpacetimeQ: So why are you so confident in declaring that time does not physically exist in the universe?A: For the same reasons as numbers do not physically exist. They don't physically exist.
The Spirit of The Earth - In an environment which is able to perceive this - It's a plausible scenario
Sexual Encounters
Peace
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...81121#p1081121
GM: The basic repertoire of mystic experience is drawn from the repertoire of Death PhenomenaTheist: I do truly think YHWH represents the first truly invisible God.William: What gives you that understanding?Theist:Other gods are mute idols - they always have a physical manifestation that people can look at.William: Have you been told this ... or do you have it - in your own subjective experience - that the invisible God YHWH - speaks to you?
Because, if it is the former, then YHWH is a "mute, invisible god" who 'speaks' to you through others. If those others report to you that they have seen the invisible, then they are reporting that YHWH is not truly an invisible God.
If it is the latter, then how do you ascertain that the invisible voice of YHWH is the actual voice of the "first truly invisible God"?
Deactivate all "push buttons"
William: Yes - my experience with out of body allowed this to occur as a natural result
GM: Unconscious Mind Inertia
Put That Fire Out
Keep an Eye On
All The Theories Regarding "The Gods"
GM: The Generated Messages
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNYK7rnXi9g [World's smartest person wrote this one mysterious book] [RTS=12:02] [Positive and negative]
System of Giving Energy
Unconditional Earth Entity In William's Room
♬Plastic tanks and battleships nothing more than toys What harm could propaganda do to the minds of little boys But Johnny he grew up too fast to live his life long dream The first time was his last to hear a dying soldier scream♬
Coming From QueenBee
The Body of God
Think With The heart - Feel With The Mind
The "Oh My God" Particle
Consciousness
Potential of Milieu [a person's social environment.]
Like a doting parent
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...96595#p1096595
Collective
A grateful heart Open your chakras
Placing aside the childish not the childlike
Childlike
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...81283#p1081283
Fitting In Creative Conscious IntelligenceTherefore, creation of any thing [be it this or be it any other universe, be it forming or formless] must logically be from the substance of GOD rather than something GOD created from the substance of nothing, because - logically - there is no substance to nothing. "Nothing" doesn't exist.
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...89757#p1089757
GM: Imaginative RealitiesWilliam: Often, when it comes to what I call "The Question of GOD", the cry from non-believers is "show us the [scientific] evidence!" and other variants on that theme.
In examining Theism in general, I find that most beliefs have some kind of image attached to their various ideas of GOD/Gods.
Even so, these GOD/Gods all reside elsewhere, rather than are fixtures within the universe, so one simply cannot point to any and answer the demand.
Professional Rules
Clear your mind
Some
Inner critic
According to the teachings of ...?
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...69172#p1069172
GM: All systems goWilliam: While The Subject is focused on "Egoless" the subject matter of the GM has to do with how things unfolded re the Universe...what is being referred to as "The Old Soul" may have something to do with the cosmology of The Mind of The Universe - in that - at one point so close to the beginning, there was no sense of self but with the unfolding, a sense of self developed.
More to follow...
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William: It seems to me that with the understanding of the phrase "Spacetime is Doomed" there is clear indication that nontheists/materialists no longer have an argument against the idea that we exist within a creation [therefore implying a creator] and in that, there is no point in engaging with such arguments.
For me, this means that the focus is on engaging with theists with the idea that we exist within a simulation - which is what the thread topic that the focus-post of these recent GMs - is about.
The difficulty therein, is attempting to convince those theists who are so sure that the physical universe is fundamental reality, and have beliefs which are dependent upon that being the case, to accept the evidence that Spacetime is Doomed...
GM: Evaluating
Inner Peace
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...79959#p1079959
William: FTL:
GM: Everything/All[Replying to Diogenes in post #4]
It appears that here, you are relying upon an image of GOD which we can agree comes through the particular culture you and I came through experience of.Because we actually ARE, and are not God, therefore this impossibly omniscient/omnipontent God can not exist.
I see also that you have included the factor of all-powerfulness too.
Critique of this image has merit, but no merit if the critique is simply focused on GOD not existing.
Thus it could be argued that we are within and experiencing the thoughts of GOD and what we experience and call "reality" is actually GOD thinking thoughts.Diogenes: For this Biblical 'God' to think is to create.
Unless we are actually GOD, in which case GOD can exist.Diogenes: Because we actually ARE, and are not God, therefore this impossibly omniscient/omnipontent God can not exist.
Biblically this idea of "The Breath of GOD" equates to GOD-Consciousness giving life to the imagined forms and thus experiencing those form from those forms particular subjective places in the overall thoughts of GOD.
This concept also bleeds over into the Eastern Culture of Humanity - many of which already stipulate GOD inseparable from Creation...although it could also be said that Creation is inseparable from GOD.
An all-powerful GODs thoughts could create this Universe...
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...79719#p1079719
One is not wrong
Communication with the Deeper Levels of Self
Imaginative Realities
Ontology [the branch of metaphysics dealing with the nature of being. a set of concepts and categories in a subject area or domain that shows their properties and the relations between them.]
The things you can see only when you slow down
Salinas crop circle
What Is The Point?
William: To advertise?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LJCTnNmT48
@ TS= [2:05]
It also has 192 GPUsFor such an impressive phone chip, NVIDIA wanted an out of this world marketing campaign. Their answer was the viral marketing campaign “Project 192” in the form of the aforementioned crop circle. The number 192, which is spelled out in Braille in the design, references the graphics cores within the new chip. {SOURCE}GM: Matter and psyche are one and the same.The Number One Nine Two {SOURCE}
The Effect You Have On Others
Numb
The Hologram of Deception – Yawn
Christian Folklore
Ship
Though the Serpent rules the Shadow The Lord Here-and-now
Placing aside the childish not the childlike
This isn't about thoughts and language. This is about behaviours and actions.
That can be shoved back into whatever hole it came from
The Abrahamic idea of GOD
Aeon [an indefinite and very long period of time.]
Training the mind
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...96595#p1096595
Insight
Comment
Giving our best
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...88287#p1088287
Science of ConsciousnessChamber Of Self
Is It Our Nature Mysteriously missing That Is A Good Question
Union
Your Own Individual Actions
Links And Symbols
According
Ugly is just "in the eye of the beholder" as is Beauty.
The Divine Darkness
Mission
Occupation
Privacy
The Bidden Zone
Intelligent Consciousness
Atheism cannot be defined through defining "atheists"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GldRtyEqPt8 [Reefer Madness: The Science of Marijuana with Neil deGrasse Tyson and Dr. Staci Gruber][RTS=22:55]
Self-Immurement
International Skeptics Forum - View Single Post - The Seed of Origin
William: I think that this is connected with the idea expressed in otseng's recent post;The energy will eventually dissipate and space will return to its inert state - still existing, but no longer influenced by energy, and thus timeless - because that it the state of its inertness. no movement = no time
Even if the universe were to somehow collapse and start another Big Bang, entropy would still have to increase. So, eventually, the cycle of Big Bangs would have to stop and end up in a final heat death.
On a smaller scale, we see this in the impossibility of creating a perpetual motion machine. The reason it's impossible to create any closed system to do work forever is because of the second law of thermodynamics.{SOURCE}
William: My reply to that;
GM: Sophia The Mother StoryMany Christians believe the bible tells it, that they will be resurrected to enjoy life in this universe forever...
How do you reconcile the eventual heat death of the universe, with such beliefs?
Any God-Mind claiming to be responsible for human beings existing, is going to have problems to deal with re that
How stories are created...
Naked truth One Language Intelligent Network
Dive deep
From First Principles
Controlled by fear
Active Imagination (see technique)
In The Back of My Mind
Mixture
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...88074#p1088074
Links And SymbolsQ: Then what is the point of our physical existence?
A:What does the physical existence provide for us?
Experience.
Creating personality through the experience.
Wakey Wakey
16-20-12-09-03-11-08
William: 16. Wakey Wakey
20. Healing
12. Under The Watchful Eye of Human Science
9. https://debatingchristianity.com/for...83460#p1083460
3. https://debatingchristianity.com/for...92717#p1092717William: A clock is a physical mechanism which is designed to physically represent time as conceptualized by human consciousness/understanding.
A physical representation of a conceptual idea, is in no way an example of time as a fundamental reality.
It is like someone claiming that the written word "Unicorn" is the same thing as an actual physical Unicorn, when in truth, it is simply a symbolic representation of something which is not able to be shown to exist as anything other than a concept of the mind.
11. International Skeptics Forum - View Single Post - The Seed of OriginWilliam: As you may or may not know, the Jewish perception of the Hebrew culture and accompanying beliefs about YHWH [as GOD] was that they did not have the notion that GOD had enemies.
Their notion was that YHWH used what humans think of as "Good/Evil" as YHWH saw fit to do, and the only enemy/adversary/accuser anyone had to concern their selves about, was YHWH.
8. Counterfactual [contrasted with indicatives, which are generally restricted to discussing open possibilities.]William: I do not reject any idea. Questioning any idea is not the same thing as rejecting any idea.
GM: Acid test
Milky Way Mother
This Translates To That.
Perpetually
William: [420]
The Dark Night of The Soul Adjusted Reality
An expression of personal incredulity
This Perpetually Translates To That.
Rolling down the rails of the ridiculous
GM: Action Consciousness Incarnates Intelligent Directions The Mainstream Program Story-Tellers Trustworthy
Is it possible that the infinitesimal super hot object preceding the Big Bang, didn't in fact contain the vastness of the matter within our universe but rather, was the event in which the energy from the blast resulted in the formation of Galaxies and everything else which we call "The Universe" from the field of inert material which already existed as 'space'? Matter + Energy + Space = Time.
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...96595#p1096595
AcceptanceTanager: I realize one could say: “but we’ve gotten Jesus all wrong,” but the evidence just isn’t on their side, a NDE that could have other scientific explanations for it against historical scholarship.William: Historical scholarship is simply that. If we are to believe that Jesus has been active behind the scenes - in N.T. Wright's "Control Room" analogy, then we best not assume that the influence of that room is forever stuck in and dependent upon - that one frame of ancient history.
Verdant
Inflicting science upon a specie which is not ready for it
The Realist:
"Guilty"
The Law of Attraction
James Webb Space Telescope
Shamanic dreaming
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...92361#p1092361
GM: To Be SovereigntyWilliam: Q: Why would YHWH create a being of nature and not instill that being with knowledge of good and evil, if indeed we agree that without morals, the human specie could not even get a foothold on the back of nature?
Joyful
Confirmation bias
Commitment
William: Confirmation bias Commitment = 293
The harmless enough agenda crowd = 293
GM: Think About It
I Think We Can Safely Say Human beings can do it the hard way or the easy way, but either way, the job will get done.
The Home Of The...
"Perhaps the difficulty involved with defining Atheism so that all Atheists agree with the same definition, is that atheism is an unnatural response to nature."
Falling asleep
Prison Planet
Coordinate
The Played Piece
William: [397]
Prison Planet Coordinate The Played Piece
The Natural-Neutral Default Position
Sober journey into self-realization
The Hologram of Deception Tied To The Moon
More to follow...
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GM: Without and Within
Entities of Particular Belief Systems
Out and about in the open
Reconnect with Innocence - It will be the beginning of your reintroduction to your True Self.
Show Me Your Soul
All fingers and thumbs
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...37619#p1037619
GM: CycleWilliam: Question: Would it be fair to say therefore, that [3] is the best position to assume on the overall biblical script to do with the subject of the next phase [afterlife]?
Remind
Who Knows
Big
Spirituality
Conviction
William: Big Spirituality Conviction = 321
It requires corrective action = 321
GM: "Does the possibility that being unable to detect something as existing, allow for the right to include zero as representing something real, which is not?"
William: Since nothing cannot be shown to exist, then zero has to represent something.
GM: The Hierarchy
Command
Suffering
William: The Hierarchy Command Suffering = 296
Now isn't the time for tears = 296
GM: Genius
Delineating The Fine Art of Not Being Offended Inordinately
Visible
Re-channel
Mind Body Soul
Culture
Accept
OWOBIK
William: Accept One Whom Ought Be Inwardly Known = 402
Instructions on what to do with data = 402
GM: https://debatingchristianity.com/for...ser%20to%20The [First Things First]
GM:Like WithFirst Things First
[Closer to The Source
Who woulda thought!]
If one continues to view GOD through the dressings of a book, then the focus/worship is on the costume and not what resides underneath the costume...one will never get to first base going in that direction...
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...96595#p1096595
GM: WittyTanager: As to your example, I think a supposed NDE meeting with Jesus that contradicts known historical teachings from Jesus would give one reason to believe that they didn’t actually meet with Jesus.William: This assumes Jesus remains static in the framework of the history the Bible presents him as - the biblical Jesus - fixed.
Over two thousand years have passed since then. Are we to assume that Jesus would not move with the times - and indeed [re The Control Room] not have influenced said times?
Invention isn't actually what is going on though. Realization is what is occurring.
Simulated for the purpose of?
William: Given the nature of the experience - one such purpose would be to conduct experiment into the nature of independent mind - minds independent of other minds...or at least a semblance of that re experience...to see what might be achieved by such minds within the nature of the reality simulation...as I wrote today in answer to another post;
GM: TranslucentDaveD then it not us that create the illusion because we are all, expect for a few, experiencing the same reality.William: We cannot state for sure that we didn't help create the simulation we then entered into for the experience.
As some other entity [rather than human] we could have had our part to play in creating this simulation, and purposefully made it so that the human avatar we would experience the universe through, would sufficiently block our memory of a prior existence, so that the experience of this universe could be had without knowledge of said former existence.DaveD IF it is an illusion we are living in one created by an independent mind.William: Or minds, independent of the direct influence of this reality experience we are currently having.
If the minds which created this simulation, were not independent [such as hive mindedness] then, no matter the number of individual minds, none would be independent and so all could be considered the one overall mind...and this could be part of the motivation for why that mind created this universe/human instruments, so as to experience what it is like to have an experience of an independent individual mind...DaveD There doesn't seem anyway for us to actually prove it.William: If this is the case, why believe it?
Holographic Experiential Reality Simulations
In Denial What Is Our Purpose? My advice to the reader is to follow the links
Encounters
Challenge
The Truth is Irresistible Once Realised
Not Right
Your Own Individual Actions
Seeds are evidence that something large can derive from something tiny.
Objectives
The Creator Atman Here-and-now
Two sides of the same coin Zero In On It Interpretation Narrow
International Skeptics Forum - View Single Post - [Split Thread] Randomly Generated Messages
GM: The Banner of ApotheosisWilliam: It is not so much 'counting' on coherent messages being generated [GMs] - because it happens every time it is done.
The universe does have an underlying order - this system simply taps into that reality and that is why it produces GMs.
Dance
"Any generated messages which demands such, should be removed from the table of discussion, will have to do much better than declare that "The answer is not 'God'.""
[A Degenerative Force to Existence]
Life on this planet, as a human being, is difficult.
William: It would appear that this was part of the design of the Game-ware...
GM: The art of relationship
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...82489#p1082489
GM: Meditate/ThinkQ: Is the universe deterministic or not?William: If the energy which causes mass is mindful, then the universe is created mindfully, thus is determined by said mind to be as it is, re the mass.
If the energy which causes mass is mindless, then the universe is accidental, thus is non-determined, re the mass.Q: Does free will exist or not?William: If the energy which causes mass is mindful, then the universe is created mindfully, thus is determined by said mind to be as it is, re the will.
If the energy which causes mass is mindless, then the universe is accidental, thus is non-determined, re the will.
The will can only work within the boundaries of the freedom attainable re those boundaries.
Either way, I cannot see that the existence of free will is a reality in this universe, given the variables available to us with will.
Therefore I have to currently conclude that the idea of free will is conceptional rather than real.
Desynchronized
Conspiracy Emotions.
William: Desynchronized Conspiracy Emotions. = 402
Accept One Whom Ought Be Inwardly Known = 402
GM: https://debatingchristianity.com/for...87906#p1087906
William: FTL
GM: Science ProjectsRe: Is The Universe Fine Tuned for Human Life?
[Replying to Diogenes in post #230]
I am procuring information which helps me scientifically delve into the world of consciousness.
Re: Generating Messages
Example
This amounts to evidence which can be studied, and for that matter, what I am publishing here are on other forums is of interest to readers.
Your personal lack of interest is of no interest to me any more than your 'tiredness' in 'trying to explain' is, as I get my explanations from better sources...
End Of Act I
William: https://debatingchristianity.com/for...979154#p979154
GM: Fiction
Productive This Besides Where are we getting our news from?
According to the teachings of ...?
Elude Tabula Rasa
Functional Clusters
The Thalamocortical System
Stay The Course
Red Pill
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...96595#p1096595
GM: Pineal GlandThe instigative/compelling influence of the soul over the personality appears to be the Holy Ghost...perhaps the soul of YHVH, more directly?...perhaps reminding the soul attached to the personality, that it is integral to the personalities development within the framework of the personalities experience, for purposes which extend beyond the borders of materialism.
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...76792#p1076792
William:FTL;
GM: True randomness does not exist In The Spirit These Were GivenQueenBee
Chamber Of Self - Coming From QueenBee - Open Your Heart
Giving our best - QueenBee - Get The Ball Rolling
Central Purpose - QueenBee - Achievable Alternate Realities
The Fathers 'House - Mansions' - QueenBee - According to Complex Jesus
Items of Interest - QueenBee - Making it up as you go along
Like a doting parent - Coming From QueenBee - Development/Growth
The Immune System
Aeon [an indefinite and very long period of time.]
Against the grain Beaming Out Beaming In
Water
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaXpDsjVumk [YAHWEH | Shocking Truth Behind The Original Bible Story! Episode 3][RTS=23:15]
https://wingmakers.com/YHVH identifies himself as one of the Elohim
GM: It is a good sign when a non-theist cannot argue against the evidence you presentWingMakers is a resource for those who are interested in the spiritual values of their heart and mind, and are seeking new insights and inspirations to stimulate their growth and sense of purpose. WingMakers is not an organization or a group of people bent on solving the issues of today. It is exquisitely personal. It is designed to help the individual to activate or deepen their spiritual path, so they can rise to the purpose they came to serve as both a soul and soul carrier.{SOURCE}
The Face of God
Musing On The Mother Act I
GM: AwakeWilliam: FTL
Feeling the tiredness in my feet, as I put one foot in front of another, and thinking to myself
"I'm going to sleep well tonight."
Seeing a fire at a distance
"Awesome! I wonder if they would let me borrow a flame to get a fire started."
Taking a few steps closer to the distant fire, I hear Mom's voice in my head
"You know how people are nowadays, they may shoot you."
Slightly shaking my head with a smile
"I've got to talk to Mom about how much news she watches. Although...you never know.
Calling out from a distance to the one by the fire
"Excuse me, I don't mean to trouble you..."
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As I am contemplating my thoughts in the opportunity of my aloneness, I hear the subtle hoot of warning from an owl - and before long hear the cracking of small branches underfoot, signifying someone approaching...I focus on the direction of the sound, and then a voice from the darkness calls;
"Excuse me, I don't mean to trouble you..."
I wait until the owner of the voice walks into the light of the fire...
"No trouble at all...please come and share the warmth of this fire with me. My name is Manu. Manu Iti."
I stand and offer and extended hand of friendship...The person before me looks weary and a little flustered...{SOURCE}
Beyond Belief
The Love is within the Communion
See-Through
The Attitude
Healing
I AM WE ARE
{SOURCE}
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...p?f=17&t=39253
William: FTL
GM: "Zero" must have to represent something which does exist but is largely unseen - and "Consciousness" fits that description.Re The Theist and non-Theist Brain
Is it the case that
1. non-theists are simply unable to 'get their head around ideas' which are outside of the idea that we are simply emergent properties of brains, [every other idea is gibberish/gobbledygook]
or
2. are they just being disingenuous?
More to follow...
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GM: I Am
Discovery is finding things that exist.
Understanding and connecting with the source of our language is vital to that vision
Listen
The discovering of what makes the Realm of Humanity "tick"
Dream journal
Trustworthy
Stop. Listen. Observe. Wonder.
WingMakers
Out and about in the open
Access
Gateway Luminous
Pervasive
Be grateful to everyone
Jocular
I hear thee hear thee...
The Bidden Zone
No Country For Old Men
Wanting to change the rules making more complicated rather than keeping things simple.
Added Significance
“The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophia_(Gnosticism)
Memories Unbound
Points of Reference
The Original People
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...81827#p1081827
William:GM: RadiantRe: Machines and morality
Statement: Everything begins with will and from that we then use creativity to go from will to execution.William: To my mind, everything does not start with will at all, but with the mechanism which enables will to become - in the case of our recognised will - from Human consciousness.
Everything to do with human will, begins with human consciousness.
Therefore, will is a function of that which everything [to do with human function] begins with first having consciousness...will derives from consciousness and cannot be considered to be the source of everything to do with human expression.
Will, is an expression of consciousness. It was not will which created consciousness but consciousness which created will.
Superposition - Being aware of Human Control Dramas
Water The Garden
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...96595#p1096595
William:GM: BrotherRe: In The Beginning...
[Replying to The Tanager in post #125]
It means that when there is an alternative given, that can be examined, logically.I’m not sure I understand your question. What does the “logic of something which is alternative” mean?
This assumes Jesus remains static in the framework of the history the Bible presents him as - the biblical Jesus - fixed.As to your example, I think a supposed NDE meeting with Jesus that contradicts known historical teachings from Jesus would give one reason to believe that they didn’t actually meet with Jesus.
Over two thousand years have passed since then. Are we to assume that Jesus would not move with the times - and indeed [re The Control Room] not have influenced said times?
Historical scholarship is simply that. If we are to believe that Jesus has been active behind the scenes - in N.T. Wright's "Control Room" analogy, then we best not assume that the influence of that room is forever stuck in and dependent upon - that one frame of ancient history.I realize one could say: “but we’ve gotten Jesus all wrong,” but the evidence just isn’t on their side, a NDE that could have other scientific explanations for it against historical scholarship.
In the days of Noah. There is a comparison drawn. [Matthew 24:37-39] couple with [Genesis 6:5]Where do the scriptures say it’s currently all wickedness or give something like a percentage?
What reason would Jesus have to return if things are balanced. Why do Christians believe in the second coming if not that they believe the world is more wicked than goodly?
I say that the metaphor for YHVH breath of life is the same.[Genesis 2:7]Paul’s writings usually have two halves to them, where he gives the gospel and then tells Christians how this should impact how we live, and that the way we do this is through God working in us (Phil 2:12-13).
Some Christians believe that the soul is what that breath is. The soul integrates with the Human experience and personality is formed through that integrated experience.
The instigative/compelling influence of the soul over the personality appears to be the Holy Ghost...perhaps the soul of YHVH, more directly?...perhaps reminding the soul attached to the personality, that it is integral to the personalities development within the framework of the personalities experience, for purposes which extend beyond the borders of materialism.
Do you believe it was the same body Jesus had prior to his death?Please explain why something which is 'enhanced' is 'the same'.Yes, but enhanced.
This implies that Christianity has it wrong re the belief that when one dies, one goes to Heaven - or alternatively - Hell.No, I don’t think they believed Heaven was an actual alternate realm located elsewhere to begin with. I’m saying they metaphorically associated the heavens with talk of spiritual things and that a bit of ascension could have jogged that thought for some people, while not running the risk of being misunderstood.
What evidence can you provide that the ancients Jesus was in contact with at that time, believed differently?
What is to say that if, what they did believe in was not true, that Jesus - knowing differently - wanted them to understand that their beliefs were in error?
Given the account of the telling from Jesus re YHVH reality [Kingdom] plus the ascension, how can your thinking otherwise, be counted as acceptable?
That is not my point. I am simply taking what you quoted and showing that N.T. Wright is describing something which can be taken in the context of ST.I do not agree. I’m as close to 100% positive as one can get that N.T. Wright, if you were able to ask him, would definitely not say that he meant that. I think that would be quite clear from anyone who has read or listened to Wright much at all.
Jesus went somewhere and we should be able to agree that where he did go had something to do with YVHV Kingdom, and unless that Kingdom is somewhere hidden in the Universe nearby - [perhaps in the hollow of earths moon?] - based upon what Jesus did say about the YHVH Kingdom, what reason do we have NOT to think he was speaking of a different realm?
Point being, whether it is N.T. Wright or C.S. Lewis, ST can explain the metaphors and if Jesus' ascension is not counted as a metaphor but a real event, then we are left to wonder where he went - once the clouds concealed his form from the eye witnesses.
That is a non-theistic approach re biblical stories and not appropriate to faith. I have seen Christians use this as a means to argue against things which are not aligned with their particular beliefs - one personal example - my being told that experiences I have shared over the years on this message board "could be delusional."I think all stories should be approached skeptically, until we see good reasons to believe they aren’t lies, hallucinations, honest mistakes, etc.
I expect non-theists to argue in that manner, but reject the validity of such argument from theists calling themselves "Christians" and promoting faith-based beliefs which themselves, do not facilitate skepticism...
Having a foot in both camps doesn't bode well with honestly confessing one is a theist/Christian, as far as I can see.
Re our particular conversation here, what "key issues" are you speaking to?I don’t think the differences between a Biblical worldview/story and alternative worldviews/stories are cosmetic. There are definitely similarities at point, but they have real and often deep differences on key issues.
ST in it's narrow view might facilitate your reasoning for not agreeing, however, in the broader sense "existing within a creation/existing within a simulation" bundles all apparent differences under the one idea.Descartes’ demon, the Matrix, various other examples are distinct philosophical views.
The distinct philosophical views might be for particular purposes?
I am viewing the whole concept [we exist within a created thing] as the overall 'philosophy' rather than focusing upon any particular flavor.
Re C.S. Lewis, the wardrobe into another realm represents a gateway between one reality experience and an alternative one.
Whatever philosophy Lewis was using in relation to his renditioned storyline, only differentiates what kind of simulation one experiences. It does not seek to promote that his portrayal of it is the only one, or the overall one...each speak of the same thing, in different ways, much like the same can be said of the differences between the Star Wars Universe and the Star Trek Universe...different universes same, simulation principle.
[In that, "Universe" is another way of saying "Simulation".]
All such stories are of course modeled off of this one, from where they are authored, but there is no way of telling if the inspiration comes from the influence of actual simulated realms, or are purely figments of the authors own imaginations.
This is what I was attempting to convey to you when we were both interacting in the "Around The Campfire" Universe... as said universe was described as the hub of all Simulated Universes...
Why do you support whatever belief you adhere to? And what about ST has you concerned, re those beliefs?I do consider myself a Christian. My point is that I’m not going to adhere to a belief simply because Martin Luther stated it, or my pastor says it, etc.
The math agrees with ST. ST agrees with the mathematics of quantum physics.I didn’t mean that it had less explanatory power. I meant simplicity in the Occam’s razor sense. ST theory says there is one level of reality that we experience and then another level of reality behind that. That’s two levels of reality to explain. I think traditional Christianity asserts one of these levels of reality. One is a simpler framework than two. That’s all I meant there.
The evidence is more than just a theory - it is a mathematical theorem. A theorem is a statement which has been proved true by a special kind of logical argument called a rigorous proof.
The statement which has been proved true, is that "Spacetime is Doomed." This is to say, that spacetime is NOT the base reality which materialists have insisted that it is.
This bodes with theism, and Christianity being theistic means that this should also bode with Christians.
Yet you - as a Christian - are arguing for the materialist interpretation of this universe experience.
Given "Spacetime is Doomed" is relatively new to human insight and thus not popular in terms of humans knowing about that, one can accept that arguments such as yours are coming from a place of ignorance, but the information is there for anyone with internet access to find, so the idea would be for one to get knowledgeable with new information being presented and, in doing so, drop old concepts for new ones.
There is very good reason, as I just mentioned.I think heaven and earth are part of the one base reality. I don’t think heaven is a construct of the physical universe. It has nothing to do with the IF…THEN you mentioned above. I don’t think that would follow.
I see no good reason to see that our universe is not part of the base reality.
ST gives us the better explanation [re The Razor] and aligned with the latest information.
The mathematics prove that your Christian understanding of reality is as faulty as the materialists understanding of reality.
Theism up to this point has had no choice but to accept materialism as base-reality and attempt to superimpose the idea of Creation/Creator into that mix.
Theism does not have to proceed in that manner now that the math supports our universe is not base reality.
I can accept that folk may well have thought about reality in materialistic terms, but Jesus didn't speak of reality in the same way. According to his own words, we should be able to accept that he knew that the material universe was not base reality - his oft enough commentary on the realm of YHVH, confirms this to be the case.I don’t think that is a given, as I shared above. I don’t think Paradise was thought of as being another location in that society. They didn’t think people went to another realm.
Or we absolutely can say that they do teach that we exist in a reality which is not base-reality and that the accounts by those telling the stories, would have been oblivious to that but we - today - should be able to see such stories in a different light, since we have access to knowledge that they did not.We absolutely can say that they do not teach simulation theory. There is no mention of ST theory being explanatory of reality. If ST theory is true, then the Biblical accounts are oblivious to that fact.
Agreed?
Concision
The Right Tool For The Job
Incorporate
The Life Essence
Coordinate Forgiveness
Original
Epiphany [a moment of sudden and great revelation or realization.]
The Dolphins And Whales
Getting unstuck
According
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjsAZUigJ1o [Woman Crosses Over and Gets Told Our Role on Earth (Near Death Experience)] [RTS=9:00]
William: Forgiveness - "Incorporate The Life Essence, Coordinate Forgiveness"
Superposition - Being aware of Human Control Dramas = 512
GM: A very useful fiction
Two seemingly contradictory things working as one overall organized thing.
Communication With The Deeper Levels of Self
The Shadow
Develop a basic, fact-based view first and then ask the question.
Radiate Honesty
"Can a transistor with its simple function relating input to output be conscious? how about two? or hundred?"
To Warm Them up to The Truth
Conducive to wellbeing
♬With a mystical smile I float down the isle Forgetting the time when I was lost♬
Bandages of The Beast
Training the mind
It Requires Corrective Action
The Navigator Can Read Maps.
Selfless Attitude
“Life is a succession of lessons which must be lived to be understood” Resistance to that realization isn't helpful re aligning with it.
Placebo Effect
Imagining potatoes screaming as you peel them...
William: Wouldn't that be The nocebo effect? :/
GM: What we resist, persists
Start From Scratch
Be here now
Investigative Realisation
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...91425#p1091425
Behind The Veil You Are All Loveable...[re shuffled]
Planned obsolescence
Delightful Anticipation
Sovereignty
The Mother and The Father
Inner Strength
The problem of evil
Start where you are
To become conscious of the contents that press outward from the unconscious
Nurture
The sound of a Ghost
Enlightenment
Core emotion
The Body of God
Elemental Powers
Blunt the edge off that particular blade...
Way Back When...
Stone Age
Once Upon a Time
Memorandum of Understanding
Chamber Of Self
Open your chakras
Fling That Veil Aside
Invisible Bridge
Cyborg Anthropology
Multiverse
This
Children of The Light
That is the truth.
Final Destination
Being Born
Aye...A name I call myself.
Manifest Destiny
Transformation
Source Reality
Sister Saturn
Preamble
A belly full of laughs.
All Because I Had To Ask
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11-02-2022 03:31 AM #298DATE [011122] [The Fathers 'House - Mansions'][282]William: The idea would be for one to get knowledgeable with new information being presented and, in doing so, drop old concepts for new ones.
SCLx12 + select last LE per shuffleSo are you thinking that the display was not to have people believe that he went to another/alternative Realm, but rather, to feed into/utilize popular belief in Heaven being an actual realm where YHVH and the Host reside, even that this was not the actual case?
Why do you think Jesus used such device. Surely he would have known the impact that this would have on those who witnessed the act, and those who subsequently learned of the event?
Why would he not just simply disappear from their midst if indeed Heaven isn't an actual realm, as you believe? Why the theatrics?
[Preamble]
The Plateau of The Same Page - Clumsy - Tied To The Moon Mindfulness - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBxTiZIzg08 - The idea would be for one to get knowledgeable with new information being presented and, in doing so, drop old concepts for new ones. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjiK9912z3U&t=1169s - How Can We Know - The House of Politics - The Neverland Metaphor - William's Commitment With - https://debatingchristianity.com/for...93860#p1093860 - https://debatingchristianity.com/for...94052#p1094052 -
AP= [=Tickety Boo Productive]
[Tickety Boo Productive = 258]
[258]
The design of the universe
Tickety Boo Productive
The one God with many names
Events connected by meaning
Intelligence with Wisdom
RSP = SCLx12 "The idea would be for one to get knowledgeable with new information being presented and, in doing so, drop old concepts for new ones." + P&P 12x either side
TIME [08:50][Communication is key]
GM: Earth
Divine feminine
The "Problem of evil" is like the "Problem of unicorns"
Nonviolent communication
Histrionic [excessively theatrical or dramatic in character or style. melodramatic behaviour designed to attract attention. an actor.]
“Life is a succession of lessons which must be lived to be understood”
Translucency [permitting light to pass through but diffusing it so that persons, objects, etc., on the opposite side are not clearly visible]
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...89361#p1089361
[Most Brights believe that public policies should be based on science (a body of knowledge obtained and tested by use of the scientific method). Brights are likely to oppose the practice of basing public policies on supernatural doctrines. Brights may therefore be described as secularists.]As a rule I think that subterfuge and cover - up is a bad idea. It's why I firmly rejected Dennet's "Brights" and will have nothing to do with it.
GM: EarthControlled Distraction Light
Meeting an Extraterrestrial Before The Beginning
Enlightenment
Time To Go
The idea would be for one to get knowledgeable with new information being presented and, in doing so, drop old concepts for new ones.
Group/Family
Learned helplessness
Bridge
Soul Groups
Either Authored or Orphaned
https://www.dreamviews.com/science-m...ml#post2245935
Be LedThe overall purpose of human existence is to kindle a light of being into the darkness of ignorance
Algorithms are not perfect Connections
Guarantee
Apatheism [someone who is not interested in accepting or rejecting any claims that gods exist or do not exist. ]
Walking the walk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S08mafHnPGs [Is the EARTH CONSCIOUS and ALIVE?] [RTS=13:09]
[Planting seed and the correct amount of variables necessary to the success of it growing]
[09:07]
[09:43]
GM: Re Abusive Expression Of All Types.
Enjoy Progress
Incongruous [not in harmony or keeping with the surroundings or other aspects of something.]
A type of 'leg-up' but no more or less than that
Leg Hold Traps
Afraid of The Unknown.
Spiritual bypassing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex0WYitiS7M [The First Aliens | A Brief History of Aliens in Science Fiction] [RTS=14:27]
GM: https://wizardforums.com/threads/wil...647/post-16045Service of the state above all else - including families - a society valuing strength above most things and resenting the weak - a society operating on a strict hierarchy.
Inserting certain characteristics and viewpoint into alien species is often a way in which writers are able to make criticisms about certain ideologies and belief systems...
GM: A measured stepLou: As i almost fell and started to destroy your work, i realised life is. So I'm expanding my horizon here and decided to share in my community.
The essence of the world can express both consciousness and unconsciousness.
Childlike
The idea would be for one to get knowledgeable with new information being presented and, in doing so, drop old concepts for new ones.
Because we are effectively trapped in our individuate states, yet nature Herself makes it that we cannot survive independently of each other, this apparent contradiction feeds those fires of discontentment.
William
Meat For The Table
Walk The Talk In Love
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...89586#p1089586
William: FTL;
GM: Liminalist [In anthropology, liminality (from the Latin word līmen, meaning "a threshold") is the quality of ambiguity or disorientation that occurs in the middle stage of a rite of passage, when participants no longer hold their pre-ritual status but have not yet begun the transition to the status they will hold when the rite is complete]Even with the best of intentions and planning. Originally Posted by brunumb post_id=1089565 time=1661160739 user_id=13763
Accidents will happen. Originally Posted by William post_id=1089553 time=1661140333 user_id=8427
For me, the scope of the universe and the utter hostility of most of it for life as we know it, plus the curious impulse of humans to want to create life in their own image [transhumanism/AI stuff like that] presents a challenging purposeful intent to make something spectacularly useless into something functional/purposeful.For me, the scope of the universe and the utter hostility of most of it for life as we know it precludes any purposeful creation of living things.
It is plausible enough that we are experiencing this spectacularly useless universe as a simulation - as a long-running - many levelled game in which we - playing within it - attempt to make something useful out of something useless as we play our part.More so if this is the only planet in that vast expanse where life as we know it has managed to thrive.
I don't think that it is, but I am surprised that it doesn't give creationists pause for thought.
There may be other 'life as we know it' playing the game as well, and only those players who get to bring their world consciousness to that point, win the right to play on and perhaps eventually discover those other worlds.
Precipitate [cause (an event or situation, typically one that is undesirable) to happen suddenly, unexpectedly, or prematurely.]
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...69825#p1069825
Sharing data,Keep it simple.
For the benefit of all beings
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...79064#p1079064
Teaching MusicWilliam: I think there is reason [given and not given] to believe there is a case for "superior understanding".
Whether the reason is reasonable, is really the question to ask - but how to garner an answer?
I do so - through the use of this message generating system. I am quiet convinced that the system offers a superior understanding through superior messages being generated.
One cannot make this stuff up.
William: Yes - I think that the new approach between Tanager and myself with inclusion of an ongoing list showing where we have come to an agreement, helps the communication process better than the old approach that I hade been using which used too much information at one time and thus, overwhelmed and confused more than it did, enlighten...
GM: What is "wisdom" to some is "spam" to othersWe have both agreed that:
1: We exist within a creation.
2: Simulation Theory is a valid way to interpret the Biblical stories.
3: YVHV placed humans into this universe to grow personalities.
4: The purpose of YVHV growing human personalities is so that these would potentially gain experience of the truth of the reason for their environment and their temporary experience within it.
5: It is an advantage to all grown personalities to be consciously and consistently connected with YVHV and thus understand and support YVHVs initiatives.
6: Human personalities - upon the death of their body-sets - move on to other experiences.
7: Anything which changes is not the same thing as it once was.
8: YHVH is not a simulation.
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...92134#p1092134
Talk to The RazorWilliam: I am "Other" so asking me to describe my "religious beliefs" to you, won't garner you the useful information because you are seeking it from the incorrect source. Ask theists. Others have no religious beliefs.
Stagnant
Doubt
Through the building up of the collected data to the point where it can be examined......is The Subject which is being taught, being said to be true or false...
Internal Triggering
William: In our ongoing discussion, Tanager recently wrote;
William: And my reply to that;Tanager: 1) How do we determine truth?
You questioned my skepticism as being non-theistic. I completely disagree. To me faith is putting one’s trust in what one has good reason to do so. That is the Biblical idea of faith. We are called to test everything (1 Thessalonians 5:21, 2 Timothy 4, 1 John 4).
Now, you don’t seem to advocate for completely blind faith, but you do offer personal experience as a reason to believe X is true. I agree, unless there is a defeater of that belief that comes out in testing the ideas out.
One example I gave was that supposed personal experiences of Jesus that contradict His historical teachings, should not be accepted as true. I think Jesus, as part of the triune God, would remain consistent in His teachings. God has no reason to change His character or understanding for God is all-knowing and all-loving.
I think this is different from whether Jesus influences people throughout the two thousand years since, however. I think He influences us from a constant, unchanging self. What changes is our understanding of things, not what He teaches.
As a result, we have added to the list of agreement;I covered that when I wrote:
To expand on this understanding, What Jesus taught in no way contradicts the idea that we exist within a simulated reality.Historical scholarship is simply that. If we are to believe that Jesus has been active behind the scenes - in N.T. Wright's "Control Room" analogy, then we best not assume that the influence of that room is forever stuck in and dependent upon - that one frame of ancient history.
As with YHVH, being the same/unchanging hasn't anything to do with how the authors of biblical script 'saw' YHVH and thus expressed their seeing in story form. Those stories are not "what YHVH teaches" but are expressions of inspiration by the authors who believed they were being taught by YHVH and their attempts to dress that in a language which could be understood by folk of their particular epoch.
That is why I wrote;
You reply;What is to say that if, what they did believe in was not true, that Jesus - knowing differently - wanted them to understand that their beliefs were in error?
I have been saying the same thing. So we should eventually be able to add that to our list of things we agree with.What changes is our understanding of things, not what He teaches.
although in thinking more on this now, we might also have to add something along the lines of;6: Human personalities - upon the death of their body-sets - move on to other experiences.
"It is humans growing toward the knowledge of the unchangeable, who are required to change as truth is being established"
Re "The list of agreement" = 202
[202]
Embrace the discomfort
The list of agreement
Prevailing Influence
Speculation at best
Been through the mill
Start From Scratch
This is really COOL!
The Vector Symbol
The practice of lojong
I Spy With My Eye
Welcome peer review.
GM: Word - String Values
Central Intelligence Agency
Superior Credibility
Querulous [complaining in a rather petulant or whining manner. ]
Galactic Encompassment
The idea would be for one to get knowledgeable with new information being presented and, in doing so, drop old concepts for new ones.
The beauty of imperfection
Have A Look At This And See What You Come Up With
The Knowledge Of
The fact that code exists helps immensely in our ability to understand that intelligence is categorically involved in this existence.
William: The Knowledge Of The fact that code exists helps immensely in our ability to understand that intelligence is categorically involved in this existence. = 1479
God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;” = 1479
GM: The practice of Lojong [a contemplative practice in the Tibetan Buddhist tradition which makes use of various lists of aphorisms or slogans which are used for contemplative practice. The practice involves refining and purifying one's motivations and attitudes.]
https://wizardforums.com/threads/wil....647/post-6823
GM: The Vector Symbol [a straight line between two specified points.]Lou: No clue at how others use it, but for me the first step was looking in my memory where i could find a place to hook this topic on. For me that was the old david icke forum, as they had a blossoming topic like this. Way bigger then we have here. Then i put my intent on and our friend will.i.am starts using his randomizer and the texts starts flowing and making sense in the form of subconscious hints that make me smile. Since i needed a little smile in my life, im really glad william didnt listen to me growling at something new and just fed me..
Statements of opinion
Perspective
What Shall We Call It?
Memorandum of Understanding
Intransigence [refusal to change one's views or to agree about something.]
William: Yet - as Lou describes, by my not entering into any dramatics and simply allowing the GMs to speak for themselves, Lou changed opinion...
To be continued...
[10:24]
[It is all information]
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11-03-2022 09:14 PM #299
05:44 [Deliberate and important]
GM: "Shut up you blithering fools! Can't you see you're dealing with a madman?"
Clown Boat
Invent
Infinite Quantum Zen
GM:With regard to overload of information, it is worth highlighting the following truth: there are huge amounts of information out there in the world, but very little substance, quality, or significance. And so you see, it appears that we have become desensitized to information, and so it seems that we have lost our inherent curiosity along the way. As a result, we generalize more and specify less, and so it goes that our ability to learn is greatly impacted by the amount of knowledge we can acquire; both our ability to learn and ability to recall what we have learned is significantly reduced, you see?{SOURCE}GM:William: As I said, it is not so much how each individual interprets any particular GM - either coming from me or you or anyone else - Rather it is the fact that a message is generated.GM: HumilityWilliam: Here Am I Is Where I Ought Examining My Conscious Thought
Physics Breakthrough as AI Successfully Controls Plasma in Nuclear Fusion Experiment {SOURCE}
The Whole
Who wouldn't want that, if it were there on offer?
Queen Elizabeth Alexandra Mary Windsor
Move
The idea would be for one to get knowledgeable with new information being presented and, in doing so, drop old concepts for new ones.
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...85792#p1085792
William: FTL; Re: Are Religious Beliefs Delusional?
GM: You Are Originally Posted by Inquirer post_id=1085796 time=1658611191 user_id=16204
I never said or meant to imply you were being misleading, misled perhaps but not misleading. I said the term "ghost" is misleading because it is a conflation. (Granted, I did accuse you of being delusional, and I was rightly pulled up for that by the moderator). Originally Posted by William post_id=1085787 time=1658607401 user_id=8427
Even a cursory bit of research will quickly show that God and ghost are different, I'm not going to waste my time copying and pasting all of these definitions, you can see for yourself that they are not the same, they mean different things.
Chakra
International Skeptics Forum - View Single Post - The Seed of Origin
GM: “But you will know the more you get in touch with your transcendental mind (and therefore truth) that there is no such thing as a victim. The negative benefits you more than anything else in your evolution and the evolution of all that is.”William: I use the same data as the scientists produce. As I have explained already, there is no apparent reason as to why the object which exploded, has to be regarded as the only thing that existed, since that constitutes magical thinking [MT].
The obvious alternative to MT is that what is being observed as having a beginning and predicted to eventually end, must therefore be manifesting on a backdrop/stage/fabric/matrix of an eternal nature - physical in essence - yet also inert in its undisturbed state.
Be kind to yourself ... Name The Gods as non-separate Entities
Time Does Not Exist Within an Eternal Reality.
♬ Life is my predestiny - Providence is God to me♬
The nature of understanding
Solace [comfort or consolation in a time of distress or sadness.]
Truthful definitions
Imperishable [enduring forever.]
Ouija
“What separates privilege from entitlement is gratitude.”
Self-confidence Core
Stop. Listen. Observe.
Betterment
Nature of Angels
The Crabwood Cropcircle
Get The Ball Rolling
Discarnate [not having a physical body.]
The Bidden Zone
The Data of Demystification
Tributary Zones
The idea would be for one to get knowledgeable with new information being presented and, in doing so, drop old concepts for new ones.
Not by flinging woo at it.
Runny nose jelly legs
Pulse
Illuminating
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...88494#p1088494
GM: Self-AwareGM: "Pareidolia
Hidden In Plain Sight
Little Bird
Fling That Veil Aside"
For Your Greater Enjoyment
Yes, I Hear You
*Ghost*
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...908560#p908560
William: FTL; re My own experience and what I learned from it.
GM: Who Knows What That Is Worth?I have mentioned in passing way back when, that I followed through on this particular aspect of scripture when going through my Christian phase.
I sold all my possessions.
I left my wife and child behind.
I carried no money (although occasionally I was given money or found it and it had its uses.)
I carried no extra clothing except an extra pair of socks, and an old coat for when it rained (which it frequently does in my country.)
I also carried a pen, some colored pencils a few envelops and stamps so I could write of my progress and send to my wife.
Also a toothbrush.
I spent weeks 'on the road' in some kind of pilgrimage testing my faith and I would say that - had I not done so I would have abandoned Christianity and GOD as well.
As it turned out, I have since abandoned Christianity but certainly not GOD or for that matter Yeshua.
The stories that I have regarding that experience - that phase of my life - are many and very interesting. Of course they are subjective so are not subject to scientific review although there is nothing to stop scientists from doing the same and seeing what results are to be found, other than their focus is elsewhere and most would likely consider such a thing a kind of madness anyway.
Indeed, what I am sharing is just hearsay anyway. Only those who were close to me at the time could verify that I did do what I say I did, and even then they cannot know the details - how I survived the experience and what things I experienced during that time-period of my life - because yes - once I understood how it worked, I eventually went back into the 'system' but that didn't mean I didn't do the same things, again, and again, and again over a period of a few years.
In a nut shell this is where I learned first hand how serendipity worked, and how GOD can indeed provide, so in that I can testify that Yeshua was correct and something else I learned was that GOD provided through circumstance but ALWAYS this involved humans beings helping me along the way.
Those human beings of course, were all connected to the system, and in that I was very aware that although I was temporarily 'off the grid' I was still indirectly relying upon it. There was no 'mana from the sky' and nor was I given the ability to rub my hands together and produce bread.
Indeed, I can testify that for the most part, it was almost always non-Christians who helped me and on the odd occasion where I did 'seek out the believers' to ask for their help, they had a very hard time giving me that help and felt as if I was intruding and encroaching and putting pressure on them simply by doing what I was doing and being in a situation where I had to ask.
Generally though, I often didn't have to ask as - like I said - serendipity arranged it that way. People would offer.
Anyway, I can at least say that it works. It isn't easy and it certainly tests you to the limits but the reward as it were is indelible. Anyone willing to go through such a thing will never have reason to doubt again, and can only move forward 'in the spirit' as it were, no regrets.
Harmless
Perpetually
Like a Job Well Done
Fecund [producing or capable of producing an abundance of offspring of new ideas or new growth; highly fertile]
Immortal
I'm okay with that
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...85464#p1085464
William: FTL; Re: If you were Satan....
GM: Putting yourself back together againAll this speculation about Satan thwarting Father YHWH assumes that Satan is more intelligent than Father YHWH.
Those whom assume such are basically showing the allegiance of their will to worship Satan's intelligence.
Perhaps that is the Mark of The Beast.
[Loyalty or commitment to a superior or to a group or cause.]
[An attitude of the individuals mind which is altogether shared by millions of like-minded $itizens.]
To think that Satan can outsmart the Elder - The Father YHWH - is a fallacy in relation to biblical narrative.
That is to say,
IF one has to go outside of biblical narrative whilst arguing against biblical narrative
THEN one is ignoring biblical narrative on the one hand whilst on the other holding ones interpretation of it up as the interpretation to assume.
Such muddies the waters for all except those who have already noticed what is beneath the surface...
Moon
Becoming whole Sober journey into self-realization
The Sub Hierarchy
In the Soil of Logic, The Seeds of Love Respond
Radiant
The idea would be for one to get knowledgeable with new information being presented and, in doing so, drop old concepts for new ones.
A grateful heart Open your chakras
Major Arcana
William: RS - Major Tarot doc = "Wheel of Fortune"
GM: CrazyWheel Of Fortune
WHEEL OF FORTUNE DESCRIPTION
The Wheel of Fortune card shows a giant wheel, with three figures on the outer edges. Four Hebrew letters – YHVH (Yod Heh Vau Heh), the unpronounceable name of God – are inscribed on the wheel’s face. There are also the letters TORA, thought to be a version of the word Torah, meaning ‘law’, or TAROT, or even ROTA (Latin for ‘wheel’). The middle wheel has the alchemical symbols for mercury, sulphur, water and salt – the building blocks of life and the four elements – and represents formative power.
On the outer circle is a snake, the Egyptian god Typhon (the god of evil), descending on the left side. The snake also represents the life force plunging into the material world. On the right side rises the Anubis, the Egyptian God of the dead who welcomes souls to the underworld. And on top of the wheel sits the Sphinx, representing knowledge and strength.
In the corners of the Wheel of Fortune card are four winged creatures, each associated with the four fixed signs of the Zodiac: the angel is Aquarius, the eagle is Scorpio, the lion is Leo, and the bull is Taurus. Their wings signify stability amidst movement and change, and each holds the Torah, representing wisdom.{SOURCE}
"Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all” Grand Experiment
The Corporate Elite
Deciding On the Best Course of Action
Callum's Eighth Point
William:
Manu Iti: Callum's Eighth Point appears to indicate that he is saying that if The Tanager does not want Callum to access my thoughts through Callum reading The Book of Musing On The Mother II, then "That's Okay".
I wouldn't argue with that reasoning as it is within the rules of The Role-Play.
I have provided Callum with enough devices for him to help himself and learn through. I cannot decide for him whether he uses those or is happy not to, if The Tanager does not want him to.{SOURCE}
William: Re "Getting knowledgeable with new information, clearly the 8th point is resisting doing so - in reading the post linked, I also note this;
William: This is still something, three years on - that Tanager argues while he remains unclear as to what the "Christian worldview" is and why it is not supportive of Simulation Theory.Callum protests that the Idea of the Physical Universe being a Simulated Reality is no better than any other explanation, such as the Christian worldview claims or other creationist worldviews.
However, he does not say why those other world views should be considered as being ideas which do not support the idea of the Physical Universe being a Simulated Reality.
So, rather than go down that path with him, I will hold off until whenever he might decide to explain what he means.
GM: Outposts of Form
You are neutral
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...73573#p1073573
William: FTL; Re: Eternity
GM: Live with Soul UnionWilliam: Perhaps the idea of the universe being non-deterministic is a purely fanciful one, based upon humans being [apparently] unable to accurately predict very well.Difflugia Perhaps, but there's no evidence of that and lots of evidence to the contrary. Randomness and uncertainty appear to all of our tests to be a fundamental property that the universe must obey.William: The key message you generated there, "appear to all of our tests", is no random accident. .
That it might 'appear' this way has everything to do with the device [filters] through which the assessment is being placed through. The interpretation of that which is being observed through experience.
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...89503#p1089503
William: Our movements can illuminate the path toward that vision. A Bit Of Cat And Mouse Control = 876
Transparent Enlightenment Relationship True Colors On all fronts No axe to grind... = 876
06:43 [Look from a different angle]
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041122 [What The Creator thinks – becomes]
13:51 [Science of Truth]
GM: Reborn
Stubborn
Please process this word using your Name2Nunumber list.
On The Other Hand...
Self-esteem
Self-love
William: Self-esteem...On The Other Hand... Self-love = 360
The Entity I Am - The Entity You Are = 360
GM: The Factor of Integrity and Alignment
Is life on earth being lived as it should be?
Odd
The wisdom of insecurity
Aligning With WingMakers
Look from a different angle
The idea would be for one to get knowledgeable with new information being presented and, in doing so, drop old concepts for new ones.
"Zero" does not actually represent "nothing" because "nothing" does not exist and so cannot be represented.
Ooky Spooky
Too
The Deeper Reality
Play
Noticeable within The Realms of Democracy
Spiritual path
Sound
Mystery
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...91764#p1091764
GM: Breaking bad habitsAs the knowledge increases, the individual can make decisions on the question of GOD and from that, take up positions on the matter.
Deciding On The Best Course Of Action
The Path
Madventures
Honest attempts at scrubbing up
Reflect
All Information Is Channelled
Toward a Science of Consciousness
Before The Beginning
Long Story Short
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...81586#p1081586
GM: Burden of Proof - The scientific way to examine verifiable evidence Presumed outcomeAgnosticism accepts the validity of the possibility the environment we exist within is indeed a created one {a creation}, implying therefore, that there is a creator.
The position of Agnosticism also requires questions are asked, pertaining to the identity of supposed creator
Conceivable
Be transparent
The idea would be for one to get knowledgeable with new information being presented and, in doing so, drop old concepts for new ones.
Two sides of the same coin Interpretation Narrow Zero In On It
The Masks and the Costumes
Fear of the Unknown
Heart chakra
“You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose”
Items of Interest
Story
Simulating large scale structure
Light
Confusion In The Air
The United Nations
Fear-Based Thinking
Sister Saturn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6XF71YswCs [Satan, The Jews, and The Afterlife] [RTS=34:36] www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6XF71YswCs
GM: Is Love That Hard To Know?God asks us to try and understand him - so let's try.
Feelings Perceptions, and Behavior
Communications Device
Wise beyond ones years
Watch This Space
Symbolized within the actions of showing respect.
Sanctioned
https://debatingchristianity.com/for...82379#p1082379
It is not as if I am asking you to consider joining a religion. I am asking you to seriously consider the possibility that we exist in a creation and it is a result of a creative mind.
I am trying to encourage you to see the logic in the middle-ground position which wisely understands that there is not enough information to establish any belief either way but certainly enough information to show the unreasonableness of those less-superior positions.
Intractable [hard to control or deal with.]
The idea would be for one to get knowledgeable with new information being presented and, in doing so, drop old concepts for new ones.
Flat
Lucid
“Diogenes raises his lantern looking for an honest man, but his arm has grown weary, shaking as the pale light flickers.”
Dogs of the sea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaXpDsjVumk [YAHWEH | Shocking Truth Behind The Original Bible Story! Episode 3] [RTS=37:13] www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaXpDsjVumk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjoH1ZZrAikre Ancestral Narrative - a time when ancestors were governed over by nonhuman beings
The idea of benevolence comes after the idea of evil.
The Sioux Elder [The elder: Not all older or elderly people are considered elders. An elder is a person that has accumulated a great deal of wisdom and knowledge throughout his or her lifetime, especially in the tradition and customs of the group.]
Invention isn't actually what is going on though. Realization is what is occurring.
Inspection
Avoid Blowing Things Out of Proportion
Attempting to overlay/superimpose one's belief in the truth of stories as being more truthful than the main overall story itself, is possibly an act of immorality, if indeed - upon further evidence - one continues to attempt to have the superimposed thing used to conceal the real.
[14:23] [Leaders and Followers]
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