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Originally posted by Neruo
That mirror could be placed on later missions.

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Proving we did go to the moon at least once. Still, there is data from that mirror as far back as 1969, and that data could have been falsified, yes. But that meant NASA had to make an entire research team fake it, that's not something they would have risked. If we did place that mirror on the moon in a later mission, why did they just not claim so and save themselves a lot of trouble and risk.

I also disagree with you on the subject of that the government would be able to pull it off. With the whole world watching... To cover up a lie of such magnitude is unprecedented, and I feel it would have been far easier to just go to the moon then trying to deceive all of humanity.

Ok, here are some 9/11 vids from the same page as the JFK thing, not bad, check em out:

http://theeffectivecitizen.com/video/loose...ange_part_1.wmv

http://theeffectivecitizen.com/video/loose...ange_part_2.wmv

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Originally posted by Jalexxi+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jalexxi)</div>

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Proving we did go to the moon at least once. Still, there is data from that mirror as far back as 1969, and that data could have been falsified, yes. But that meant NASA had to make an entire research team fake it, that's not something they would have risked. If we did place that mirror on the moon in a later mission, why did they just not claim so and save themselves a lot of trouble and risk.
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Well the mirror thing is +693 points for 'they went to the moon in 1969' but it doesn't make it sure.

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I also disagree with you on the subject of that the government would be able to pull it off. With the whole world watching... To cover up a lie of such magnitude is unprecedented, and I feel it would have been far easier to just go to the moon then trying to deceive all of humanity

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Hahahaha! :D

Usa government = kind of lies. The entire world IS fooled allready by the shit they pulled off to start the iraq wars. Lies, lies, spam, lies on a plate served with crispy LIES.

And everyone is buying it. No one says anything about it. No one.

They could. Oh yes they could fake the moonlanding and let eveyone believe it. I don't know or they did still :)

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Originally posted by Neruo
They could. Oh yes they could fake the moonlanding and let eveyone believe it. I don't know or they did still :)

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Don't think so. There's a lot of people in Russia. A lot of smart people, even. If there were any doubts, it'd be a major scandal. They wouldn't risk it, but I don't think they can pull it off with the whole world watching their back.

Russia can intercept all radio traffic between the moon lander and mission control. And a nifty little thing called the doppler effect enables them to figure out the speed and direction of the transmissions. Wouldn't that be conclusive evidence?

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Originally posted by Jalexxi

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Well the mirror thing is +693 points for 'they went to the moon in 1969' but it doesn't make it sure.

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You're not going to get certainty unless you go back in time and go to the moon in 1969. :D



Don't think so. There's a lot of people in Russia. A lot of smart people, even. If there were any doubts, it'd be a major scandal. They wouldn't risk it, but I don't think they can pull it off with the whole world watching their back.

Russia can intercept all radio traffic between the moon lander and mission control. And a nifty little thing called the doppler effect enables them to figure out the speed and direction of the transmissions. Wouldn't that be conclusive evidence?[/b]

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SMART PEOPLE IN RUSSIA? Rambo is the smartest person to ever set foot in russia! :0 *lol rambo movies brainwashed me*

Hmmm good point you have there. Why don't all the real geeks thinks about that. You know the people that wear alluminium hats against the radiation from aliens. :D

So how about Skull and Bones? Both bush and Kerry admitted to be part of it. :)

Even though I don't know what Skull and Bones is, I do not claim America is a bastion of righteousness and truth. Far from it, actually, how they get away with certain stuff is beyond me. All I know is it's extremely likely the moon landings were real.

Ah, just quickly googled Skull and Bones, a secret organization of powerful people? That makes sense. I'd be more shocked if such an organization did not exist. What goes on in there is probably very secret and scandalous, yet it is also probably just a power-orgy. There's secrets in this world, that much is sure, and things happen that shouldn't. Skull and Bones is just another example of that.

The illuminati are funny blokes too. However of them is hardly any proof. Skull and bones is reasonably 'well known'. They even made 3 movies about it :)

I think in more cases then people think 'crazy conspiracy-everywhere-people' have it right alot more times then people think.

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Lets talk about crop-circles. Aliens? Pranksters? The american government? CHUCK NORRIS? :D

If I apply my standard mantra 'the truth is in the middle' to crop circles, then I'd say maybe the first one was due to aliens or some phenomenon, then it took off and pranksters started doing it, America got into it, and that bastard Chuck Norris of course. I think it would be wrong to try and only look for a singular explanation of them. Of course people make their own crop circles... but where did they get the idea?

Possibilities abound!

I'unno squat about crop circles, but here is a good place to discuss UFO's, if one was so inclined to do so. :cooler:

http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/viewtopic....3201&highlight=

Well, there are those "crop" circles related to the mysterious "Church of Scientology," which I heard about on CNN a little while ago. Can't find the actual video I saw, but here is some random article on the "CoS"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...5112601065.html

And yeah, the Skull and Bones thing has weirded me out ever since I heard they were both apart of it and how "Secretive" they both admit to it being. To them its "Ha ha ha It's secret and we can't tell you." To the American people its "whoa whoa...what the fuck is all THIS about?!"

Family Ties:

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20031017...10534-8149r.htm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,1227...1312540,00.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,100474,00.html

Couple the information in those articles with this view of Denver’s “New World Order Airport”
http://fpidocument.blogspot.com/2006/01/ne...er-airport.html

Disturbing? :|

Bush = nazi ^____^

The nazi-symbols... hmmm you can see them everywhere.

Reading what you said about the moon landings being fake... made me very unhappy. THANK GOD FOR JALEXXI! He said everything I would have regarding the 15 points; except the 'no stars on the moon' point. Indeed, the astronaughts could not see any stars from the moon, but that was simply because of the design of the eye. If the eye is exposed to bright light, the pupils contract. When in a dark room, they expand. The 'naughts on the moon were exposed with bright light that was being reflected off the moon's surface. Their pupils automatically contracted, which meant their eyes could not pick up the tiny amounts of light given off by the stars.
They DID land on the moon, and everyone who doesn't think so needs to research the science behind the landings.
Most conspiracies are just the overactive imagination of ignorant minds.
But saying that, quite a few don't have explanations... yet.

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Originally posted by Pensive Patrick
Reading what you said about the moon landings being fake... made me very unhappy. THANK GOD FOR JALEXXI! He said everything I would have regarding the 15 points; except the 'no stars on the moon' point. Indeed, the astronaughts could not see any stars from the moon, but that was simply because of the design of the eye. If the eye is exposed to bright light, the pupils contract. When in a dark room, they expand. The 'naughts on the moon were exposed with bright light that was being reflected off the moon's surface. Their pupils automatically contracted, which meant their eyes could not pick up the tiny amounts of light given off by the stars. *
They DID land on the moon, and everyone who doesn't think so needs to research the science behind the landings.
Most conspiracies are just the overactive imagination of ignorant minds.
But saying that, quite a few don't have explanations... yet.

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It might be stupid to go looking for Goverment scandals and Aliens in every weird little thing. But the opposite, accepting everything the media and governments tell you is allso stupid.

Ok the moonlanding Probably wasn't fake. But bush DID mess around and exaggerate and lie to start the Iraq war. If he didn't some others controlled him. Or bush is just dumb.

The point is: There is allways a chance of a conspiracy theory (or something like it) being true. Maybe not as big most of the time, but it's important that you don't just accept everything people tell you.

Becouse of the discussion in this topic, I now know some arguments why the moonlanding very perhaps is fake, and I know the argument that point to it being real. I now personally think it was not fake.

Thinking = good ^___^ And really without knowing the facts like that mirror on the moon people can indeed think that the moonlanding was a fake.

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Why did it make you unhappy anyway? You arn't even a "Proud American" that thinks his country is so cool becouse they stole all the nice lands of the indians and used gay-ass capitalism to make it the country with the most nukes to fuck up the world and start wars for no reason, exept for oil to fuel their war-machines and their McDonalds-cars >: (

lol I sound like a poster ^_____________________^

Thank you jalexxi for doing that for me... I didn't want to say that that was bullshit then have to write everything out (if someone asked me to back it up). Please people, the moon landing was not faked. Some people are like 'omgz there are no stars in the background of the moon landing pictures." Well, you go outside at night with a MODERN digital camera and take a picture of the stars. Then look at the developed picture. All black? Yeah...

Hey, Neruo, I didn't say anything about all conspiracies being untrue. There are quite a few of them out there that I'm very suspicious about... and I definitely do NOT believe everything the media pumps out. I definitely don't trust the government... there's not much doubt they have the power to control our lives secretly...
Anyway Neruo, I was unhappy about all the speculation of the moonlandings being fake because I hate it when people are missinformed and make decisions without knowing all the evidence. It's like sending someone to jail because a couple of people say 'Yeah he murdered that guy...'
P.S. You share my views of patriotic Americans completely...

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Originally posted by Pensive Patrick
Hey, Neruo, I didn't say anything about all conspiracies being untrue. There are quite a few of them out there that I'm very suspicious about... and I definitely do NOT believe everything the media pumps out. I definitely don't trust the government... there's not much doubt they have the power to control our lives secretly...
Anyway Neruo, I was unhappy about all the speculation of the moonlandings being fake because I hate it when people are missinformed and make decisions without knowing all the evidence. It's like sending someone to jail because a couple of people say 'Yeah he murdered that guy...'
P.S. You share my views of patriotic Americans completely...

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Hmmm ok I see your point. The 'Moonlanding is fake' idea is one of the most common conspiracy theories, and indeed it rather seems like a load of made-up nonsence :)

I have to admit that I didn't realy knew all the facts before stating that it was highly possible. Now I know better. It was rather silly of me ^____~____^

In the future there will be so much acces to information that it will be even harder for the goverment to keep nasty stuff secret :) But weirdly enough the information is allready here now. And the minister of my country could allso obtain the information (like about how bush clearly had the wrong reasons for starting the war) yet Mr Minister does not know about it. I bet that if he knew he wouldn't back the war (the idiot he is).


Anyhow, back to the point: funny how people allso blindly follow (like the follow the media) other people that say 'The moonlanding was fake!' with just a few aguments.... That's blind too I guess... However, I am sure I still do not know all the facts, so the truth is it's impossible to really know...

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I have to admit that I didn't realy knew all the facts before stating that it was highly possible. Now I know better. It was rather silly of me ^____~____^ [/b]

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Nah, we all make mistakes like that.

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In the future there will be so much acces to information that it will be even harder for the goverment to keep nasty stuff secret[/b]

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Yes, that's true... either that, or the Government will increase its hold on us and we will live in a Big Brother style world where we are helplessely watched and controlled, but that's another topic.

You know, I was kind of taken by the emphasis Bush was putting on America's mission to "lead the world," and the "democratic future of all middle eastern nations," and hinting at the "Democratic future of Iran," specifically, during the address, last night. Now I've heard about the topic of this next video before, and read the declassified text on the quote he mentions at the end, and I think it offers definite Evidence of a motive behind the US's (Theoretical) involvment in 9-11.
The fact remains that, even if the Bush admin were not A) anticipating the 9-11 catastrophe or B) guilty of making the catastrophe bigger by pulling the buildings that, more than likely, wouldn't have fallen in the first place, the course of events that are unfolding keeps many of us questioning just how much of this stuff was and wasn't planned out, and quite logically so.

http://fpiarticle.blogspot.com/2006/01/pro...an-century.html

Any thoughts?

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Originally posted by Oneironaut


http://fpiarticle.blogspot.com/2006/01/pro...an-century.html

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Wow, if that is true... and it might be... lol america's government really is crazy :D They planned 9/11 lol cool ^_____________________^

I dont know whether you also got this mail. Just sharing since it is interesting.

[b]Coincidence = 11

1) New York City has 11 letters.

2) Afghanistan has 11 letters.

3) Ramsin Yuseb (The terrorist who threatened to destroy the Twin Towers in 1993) has 11 letters.

4) George W Bush has 11 letters.

This could be a mere coincidence, but this gets more interesting:

1) New York is the 11th state.

2) The first plane crashing against the Twin Towers was flight number 11.

3) Flight 11 was carrying 92 passengers. 9 + 2 = 11

4) Flight 77 which also hit Twin Towers, was carrying 65 passengers. 6+5 = 11

5) The tragedy was on September 11, or 9/11 as it is now known. 9 + 1+ 1 = 11

6) The date is equal to the US emergency services telephone number 911. 9 + 1 + 1 = 11.

Sheer coincidence..?! Read on and make up your own mind:

7) The total number of victims inside all the hi-jacked planes was 254. 2 + 5 + 4 = 11.

8) September 11 is day number 254 of the calendar year. Again 2 + 5 + 4 = 11.

9) The Madrid bombing took place on 3/11/2004. 3 + 1 + 1 + 2 + 4 = 11.

10) The tragedy of Madrid happened 911 days after the Twin Towers incident.

Now this is where things get totally eerie:

11) The most recognised symbol for the US, after the
Stars & Stripes, is the Eagle. The following verse is taken from the Quran, the Islamic
holy book:

"For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle.
The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo,
while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced: for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah and there was peace."

That verse is number 9.11 of the Quran.

Still uncovinced about all of this..?! Try this and see how you feel
afterwards, it made my hair stand on end: Please try this in atleast Wordpad, if you dont know what is going to happen. Its worth the work.

Open Microsoft Word and do the following:

1. Type in capitals Q33 NY. This is the flight
number of the first
plane to hit one of the Twin Towers.

2. Highlight the Q33 NY.

3. Change the font size to 48.

4. Change the actual font to the WINGDINGS

What do you think now?!!

Yeah, I'd seen it. It's vaguely interesting, until you realise that you can do that with almost any subject. Somewhere Kim did one using Nirvana or Jay Dawg's names...I'll go dig it up. I think it's in one of the 2012 threads.

The History Channel Presents:

"Microwaves, Weather Mods, Space Guns, Oh Shi0t!" :eek:

Hehe.

Nah, seriously. Good Stuff.

http://fpiarticle.blogspot.com/2006/02/inv...romagnetic.html

Question:
If the treaty confines the weather modification ranges to the boundaries of your own country....where is the US supposed to target practice? :?

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I CAN PROVE JAY DAWG IS THE ANTICHRIST!!! GET HIM!!!!!

j is 6A in hex/ascii. It's the first letter so remove the "A" - you get "6"
a is 61 in dec/ascii. It's the first letter in the alphabet, so remove the 1 = you get "6"
y is 121 in oct/ascii. It's the third letter in, so divide by 2 and subtract 1 = "6" "0" The zero represents the space.

d is the fourth letter and is 64 in dec/ascii. "6" remove the four.
a again is 61 and is the first letter in the alphabet - remove the 1.
w is 167 and is one letter that is in the seventh place in the character string, so you take off the 1 and the 7 and you get "6"

So your get 666 666 and it ends with 67. Take away the "7th" character and replace it with a SIX!

He thought he could hide it from us, but we decoded it!!!!

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Heh, sorry, I'd forgotten that I was supposed to be digging that one up for you guys. Oh well, at least I got around to it eventually. . .

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Originally posted by korothism
[b]I dont know whether you also got this mail. Just sharing since it is interesting.

Coincidence = 11
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1) New York City has 11 letters.

2) Afghanistan has 11 letters.

3) Ramsin Yuseb (The terrorist who threatened to destroy the Twin Towers in 1993) has 11 letters.

4) George W Bush has 11 letters.

This could be a mere coincidence, but this gets more interesting:

1) New York is the 11th state.

2) The first plane crashing against the Twin Towers was flight number 11.

3) Flight 11 was carrying 92 passengers. 9 + 2 = 11

4) Flight 77 which also hit Twin Towers, was carrying 65 passengers. 6+5 = 11

5) The tragedy was on September 11, or 9/11 as it is now known. 9 + 1+ 1 = 11

6) The date is equal to the US emergency services telephone number 911. 9 + 1 + 1 = 11.

Sheer coincidence..?! Read on and make up your own mind:

7) The total number of victims inside all the hi-jacked planes was 254. 2 + 5 + 4 = 11.

8) September 11 is day number 254 of the calendar year. Again 2 + 5 + 4 = 11.

9) The Madrid bombing took place on 3/11/2004. 3 + 1 + 1 + 2 + 4 = 11.

10) The tragedy of Madrid happened 911 days after the Twin Towers incident.

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9 + 11 = 20. Hah.

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Originally posted by Jalexxi


9 + 11 = 20. Hah.

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lol indeed.

You can find cool numbers in just about anything. If you look hard enough. like the 666 in gates's name :)

Bad example... That IS true! :0 :D