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05-20-2007, 01:41 PM
Ynot

Listerine
05-20-2007, 02:01 PM
arby

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Originally Posted by Ynot

Listerine

Uh, excuse me.. flame war going on.

Mentos > listerine!!

There. Now I feel better.
05-20-2007, 02:04 PM
Ynot

no, no

being anti-septic
Listerine, ya know
05-20-2007, 02:19 PM
NeAvO

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Originally Posted by Ne-yo

How about Next time you keep your hatred toward Americans to yourself. You could've easily labled this post "Some People Are Stupid" You have a problem with us? Because it sounds to me like you do. Punk!

Looking back at his first post I don't think he was being prejudice against Americans, he was just asking about the video.
05-20-2007, 03:31 PM
arby

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Originally Posted by Ynot

no, no

being anti-septic
Listerine, ya know

You trying to start something, punk? =P
05-20-2007, 06:29 PM
Gwendolyn

This is so silly. Stop getting worked up over arbitrary things. The person who made the video had an agenda, which was to make Americans look stupid. Good, great, mission accomplished. Had I the same agenda for any other country, I'm sure I could waltz down the streets, and record some saps giving me the wrong answers to some arbitrary questions. Doesn't mean a thing. Some people are stupid. However, the video proves nothing because he could have walked down that street all day looking for people with wrong answers. So, it isn't accurate.
05-20-2007, 06:56 PM
Patrick

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Originally Posted by NeAvO

Looking back at his first post I don't think he was being prejudice against Americans, he was just asking about the video.

THANK YOU! I was just trying to start a discussion.

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Originally Posted by Ne-yo

How about Next time you keep your hatred toward Americans to yourself. You could've easily labled this post "Some People Are Stupid" You have a problem with us? Because it sounds to me like you do. Punk!

You'll find I labelled the thread "Stupid Americans?" with a QUESTION MARK, hence, it's a QUESTION!

You know, you're not really doing much for the Americans aren't stupid argument.
05-20-2007, 08:18 PM
Replicon

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Originally Posted by Ynot

For continuous probability distributions, the difference between the median and the mean is no more than one standard deviation
From a sample of many millions, there's going to be no difference between the median and mean

;)

That's true, but assuming a large sample size and continuous distribution, "taking the average man on the streets" will almost never yield the average you're talking about in your post hehe. Case in point, take the average post in the religion forum :lol:

And who are we to assume continuous distribution anyway? I'm thinking it's more of a shark's tail, with most of the stupidity lying in the fin :D.
05-20-2007, 08:48 PM
Ynot

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Originally Posted by Replicon

And who are we to assume continuous distribution anyway? I'm thinking it's more of a shark's tail, with most of the stupidity lying in the fin :D.

those damn Fin's

I blame Lordi
05-21-2007, 08:05 AM
jacobo

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Originally Posted by Pensive Patrick

It's my opinion that even if the intelligent answers were left out, the stupid ones were a lot more stupid than you might find in a country that doesn't have a flawed education system.

no. they aren't. but you can keep telling yourself that.
05-21-2007, 08:38 PM
.:Rob:.

I'm sure people would give equally stupid answers anywhere else in the world.
05-21-2007, 08:54 PM
Oneironaught

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Originally Posted by Pensive Patrick

A lot of people seem to think that it's easy to take out the intelligent answers and leave in the stupid ones.

When setting out to make a video that "shows how stupid the masses are", you can bet they've edited to include only the idiots. But yes, the world is full of morons. Sadly, that's the case everywhere, not just America.

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Originally Posted by pj

The only way to learn about history anymore here is to study it yourself. Revisionist history, political correctness and a bizarre self-loathing has permeated much of American academia. And if you don't go to college, the basic K-12 education has huge holes in it that allow kids to skate through without learning anything. It isn't politically correct, you see, to encourage competition or risk hurting somebody's self esteem by failing them.

I'm glad I'm not the only one with great loathing of the entire political correctness movement. I could write volumes on the dangers and false "feel-goodedness" of PC mentality.

One thing I can say with the utmost of confidence is that PC is the single most dangerous entity in the world today. It'll be the ruin of us all. And that is meant quite literally - not an overstatement at all.
05-22-2007, 07:55 PM
Ne-yo

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Originally Posted by Pensive Patrick

THANK YOU! I was just trying to start a discussion.

You'll find I labelled the thread "Stupid Americans?" with a QUESTION MARK, hence, it's a QUESTION!

You know, you're not really doing much for the Americans aren't stupid argument.

And once again why not title it "Stupid People?" I don't like my questions being avoided and I hate repeating myself. So can you explain to me why you labled it the way that you have?
05-22-2007, 08:36 PM
Universal Mind

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Originally Posted by Ne-yo

And once again why not title it "Stupid People?" I don't like my questions being avoided and I hate repeating myself. So can you explain to me why you labled it the way that you have?

He also said this...

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Originally Posted by Pensive Patrick

It's my opinion that even if the intelligent answers were left out, the stupid ones were a lot more stupid than you might find in a country that doesn't have a flawed education system.

That was a dis on the people of the U.S. I don't see any way around that.
05-23-2007, 04:42 PM
Patrick

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Originally Posted by Ne-yo

And once again why not title it "Stupid People?" I don't like my questions being avoided and I hate repeating myself. So can you explain to me why you labled it the way that you have?

Because the video was in America, that's why. I wasn't asking if people everywhere were stupid, but if Americans in particular were stupid. Hence, the "Stupid Americans?".

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Originally Posted by Pensive Patrick http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...s/viewpost.gif
It's my opinion that even if the intelligent answers were left out, the stupid ones were a lot more stupid than you might find in a country that doesn't have a flawed education system.

That was a dis on the people of the U.S. I don't see any way around that.

Yeah, that was a 'dis' on the American education system, which I have been subjected to, by the way.
05-23-2007, 05:52 PM
Ynot

So......who did win in Vietnam?
05-23-2007, 06:09 PM
Neruo

Ne-Yo, stop acting like a little pussy. (ha-ha, irony (his avatar is a pussy)).

It is a pretty funny video. Besides, not like the average American isn't more stupid then the average European. You can't help having a bad school system. Also, I highly doubt patrick really thought every American is as stupid as that.

He was generalizing, but if people know they are, I don't see a problem with that. Generalizing is only bad if the person or others actually take the generalization as an absolute truth.

And yesss, you could make a video of that in every country if you go out in the streets. Probably even at most universities, if you tried long enough.

I don't see why people would have a problem with this video. It is interesting, it is funny, it has a truth to it (:)). But that all doesn't even matter, the biggest reason why this video is a good watch is because generalizing is FUNNY. HAHA.

It is true. It always is. (generalization)
05-23-2007, 06:53 PM
indescribable

I didn't quite read ALL the posts, so I may repeat something by accident, but I did read quite a few of them...

All countries have more than their fair share of idiots. I mean, I can't even turn on the TV or the radio without hearing someone from somewhere making fun of/judging some other person or place for some reason. I admit, I WAS pretty surprised at some of the answers on that video, but you can't generalize about this kind of thing. There were maybe 20 people interviewed on there, and there are what... 300 million people in the USA?

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He was generalizing, but if people know they are, I don't see a problem with that. Generalizing is only bad if the person or others actually take the generalization as an absolute truth.

I still say generalizing is bad, you never know what could come out of it. People generalize way too often. Thats one of the reasons we have racism and prejudice etc. We can't understand a whole civilization from just 20 people. Saying that all Americans are stupid just because of those people that got a few questions wrong... That's just not fair to the other 299,999,970 people in the US.

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This is so silly. Stop getting worked up over arbitrary things. The person who made the video had an agenda, which was to make Americans look stupid. Good, great, mission accomplished. Had I the same agenda for any other country, I'm sure I could waltz down the streets, and record some saps giving me the wrong answers to some arbitrary questions. Doesn't mean a thing. Some people are stupid. However, the video proves nothing because he could have walked down that street all day looking for people with wrong answers. So, it isn't accurate.

I agree.

Flawed education system? Aren't they ALL seriously flawed? And wasn't the US originally a BRITISH colony? (Even though now its very diverse.)

If I was in the mood I would probably start a debate about racism/prejudice... maybe I will later. To bad I'm not in school, I would probably feel quite at home in a debate class.

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Originally Posted by Ynot

So......who did win in Vietnam?

As for this... you could have googled it. This might not be the best article, but I'm too lazy too look for something else right now.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...&articleId=172

Sorry for my long rant. ;)
05-23-2007, 07:10 PM
Neruo

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Originally Posted by indescribable

I still say generalizing is bad, you never know what could come out of it. People generalize way too often. Thats one of the reasons we have racism and prejudice etc. We can't understand a whole civilization from just 20 people. Saying that all Americans are stupid just because of those people that got a few questions wrong... That's just not fair to the other 299,999,970 people in the US.

I already covered this. I really, really doubt Pensative Patrick really though every single man, woman and child in America is stupid. : )

Also, 'fair' doesn't matter. I don't see why any American should be upset by such a video saying, 'hehe, see, Americans be stupid, hehehehe'. What does matter is that it is funny (at least to others). : )

And hey, sometimes there is a core of truth in a stereotype. People from the Netherlands always make jokes about how stupid Belgium people are, the people in Belgium always make fun about how cheap we are. I think the average person living in the Netherlands is relatively to other countries pretty cheap indeed. (I don't know or Belgians are actually averagely more stupid, I haven't been to Belgium that often.)
05-23-2007, 07:29 PM
bluefinger

Oh darwin awards... oh how I worship thee!

I'm sure they just picked the worst of the bunch to show when the questioned the public, but still... ARGH!!! :shock:
05-23-2007, 08:08 PM
Patrick

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Originally Posted by indescribable

Flawed education system? Aren't they ALL seriously flawed? And wasn't the US originally a BRITISH colony? (Even though now its very diverse.)

Don't play the British colony card. That's a lame card to play. Sure, you started off as European settlers, but you got your independance, and I am pretty damn sure that the modern American education system has very, VERY limited links to colonial rule. And no, not all education systems are seriously flawed. Many European countries have very effective education systems (Britain, unfortunately, is not one of them.).

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Originally Posted by Neruo

I already covered this. I really, really doubt Pensative Patrick really though every single man, woman and child in America is stupid. : )

Thanks for your support Neruo. I definitely do not mean to say that all Americans are stupid.
05-23-2007, 08:44 PM
arby

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Originally Posted by Ynot

So......who did win in Vietnam?

Barry Levinson
05-23-2007, 08:51 PM
Ynot

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Originally Posted by indescribable

As for this... you could have googled it.

I wasn't asking 'cause I didn't know.....
05-23-2007, 09:02 PM
Oneironaught

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Originally Posted by indescribable

There were maybe 20 people interviewed on there, and there are what... 300 million people in the USA?

Plus, those are undoubtedly the worse 20 out of maybe 100 or more interviewed.

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Originally Posted by indescribable

Saying that all Americans are stupid just because of those people that got a few questions wrong...

Exactly. And given the fact that no "interview" was shown in its entirety, who's to say that every one of those people didn't get every other question absolutely correct?

I knew the answers to the questions but I'm sure most of the people questioned did too. It's all cherry-picked for the most "ratings-worthy" footage, as I'm sure we all have to sense to realize.
05-23-2007, 09:05 PM
Ynot

God, you lot are tetchy

lighten up
learn to laugh yourselves

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