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06-13-2007, 01:23 PM
Neruo

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Originally Posted by Alric

Heck china and russia both have a permanent seat on the Security Council and have veto powers. China the government that runs organ farms where they lock religious people so they can harvest and sell their body parts to rich people around the world. Who will break into your home and do on the spot abortions often killing people because they accidently got pregnant. Talk about a sick country. Then we got russia who totally oppose almost everything we do and is a fascist nation. You disagree with their president and you 'disappear' the next day.

You know the only reason we picked the 5 nations on the secuirty council because at the time they were the only 5 with nuclear bombs. I mean, great way to pick them right?

Seriously if anyone thinks they are looking out for world peace your a moron. Half the countries in the UN would take a bribe to kill their own country men. You think they want to protect YOU?

Yeah. Actually, I can't even think of a single country in the UN that isn't in Europe, and that doesn't suck hard balls... Mmm. Maybe the EU (European Union) should just take over everything. Would be fun.
06-13-2007, 04:14 PM
Alric

Everyone is in the UN, Afghanistan, Colombia, Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Korea, China, Russia, Sudan, Syria. Lets all come togather and vote on how best to run our government. Yea Right.
06-13-2007, 08:25 PM
Harrycombs

Like I said before, it isn't about other countries opinions when it comes to the US. Like I said, we cut funding for countries who vote against us. We don't care at all about the world. The UN is just stupid and can't really do anything.
06-15-2007, 01:18 AM
Howie

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Originally Posted by Harrycombs

Like I said before, it isn't about other countries opinions when it comes to the US. Like I said, we cut funding for countries who vote against us. We don't care at all about the world. The UN is just stupid and can't really do anything.

Can't or doesn't?

I have not seen where this funding cut you claim has been done.
06-15-2007, 01:32 AM
dragonoverlord

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Can't or doesn't?

I have not seen where this funding cut you claim has been done.

he means to say i think that means the US uses its economic clout to affect countries policaly and in other ways. if your looking for an example a simple google search would work there are plenty of examples.

wow i cant believe a forum of mine maid it to the 2nd page
06-15-2007, 01:39 AM
Harrycombs

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Originally Posted by Howie

Can't or doesn't?

I have not seen where this funding cut you claim has been done.

I read about it in a book called "A People's History of the United States". Great book, you all should read it.
06-15-2007, 01:42 AM
Howie

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Originally Posted by dragonoverlord

he means to say i think that means the US uses its economic clout to affect countries policaly and in other ways. if your looking for an example a simple google search would work there are plenty of examples.

wow i cant believe a forum of mine maid it to the 2nd page

Why is that? I think you have made several good topics.

With so much global outreach, military force in so many areas and such a global economy the US is under a microscope. <For everything!
Countries expect our help when needed and squabble if all is not well.
I think many of the things are overemphasized due to this. If we held other countries to the standard of the US maybe people would begin to think differently.
So no, I don't deny that the US uses it's clout to get what it wants.
06-15-2007, 01:45 AM
dragonoverlord

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So no, I don't deny that the US uses it's clout to get what it wants.

well i have to disagree. On a positive note the usa is making sanctions on i think it is 3rd tier countries with unregulated human trafficking.

If they dont comply by making new laws or soemthing they get economic sanctions from big brother
06-15-2007, 08:40 PM
NeAvO

Umm how did this thread move from, should the UN be moved...to...America is corrupting the UN?

I think that it would be a good idea to have the UN on a neutral place, maybe an island, but that doesn't seem realistic.

The idea that the US is corrupting/controlling the UN, meh I'm not sure about that because I don't really pay interest in what the UN does. I'd find it hard to think that because there are other countries there that would stop that from happening.
06-15-2007, 08:44 PM
Alric

How do you corrupt a group that was worthless to start with? I mean you can say we are corrupting it but so is Russa and China. In the end its no wonder why its totally useless.
06-15-2007, 09:04 PM
Harrycombs

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Originally Posted by NeAvO

Umm how did this thread move from, should the UN be moved...to...America is corrupting the UN?

I think that it would be a good idea to have the UN on a neutral place, maybe an island, but that doesn't seem realistic.

The idea that the US is corrupting/controlling the UN, meh I'm not sure about that because I don't really pay interest in what the UN does. I'd find it hard to think that because there are other countries there that would stop that from happening.

The US does corrupt it with threats, and the US pretty much controls the world, no one can stop us (except maybe China, but their economy would collapse with out us), so the United States doesn't care if the UN still disagrees. So the UN can't do anything, so it is pointless to be moved, its pointless for it to exist!
06-15-2007, 09:18 PM
Alric

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Originally Posted by Harrycombs

The US does corrupt it with threats, and the US pretty much controls the world, no one can stop us (except maybe China, but their economy would collapse with out us), so the United States doesn't care if the UN still disagrees. So the UN can't do anything, so it is pointless to be moved, its pointless for it to exist!

Saddly that is probably the other way around. China owns a large part of our national debt. Without China the US economy would likely collapse. Of course Chinas economy would likely collapse soon after ours but that hasn't stopped them from using it as threat before. Hopefully its only a bluff however.
06-15-2007, 09:20 PM
Harrycombs

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Originally Posted by Alric

Saddly that is probably the other way around. China owns a large part of our national debt. Without China the US economy would likely collapse. Of course Chinas economy would likely collapse soon after ours but that hasn't stopped them from using it as threat before. Hopefully its only a bluff however.

My point was is that China needs us. And you are right, we need them too.
06-16-2007, 07:08 AM
dragonoverlord

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My point was is that China needs us. And you are right, we need them too.

a relationship based on convenience.

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