Election Fraud in NH?

I wonder what people think about how some people are already saying there is election fraud in NH. A lot of people are pointing out how the polls don't match up with the results, with how everyone thought obama was going to win but some how hillary won.

Some of the polls Obama was way out infront of her by 10-20% in some cases yet he lost. So are the polls just way off, or is there something more sinister there? Its not just the polls though, a lot of people are also looking at the results, where on average Obama did far better in hand counted ballots compared to machine counted ballots. Maybe thats just another coincidence though? Though it seems on the republican side it also happened with Ron Paul.

They also caught one town which has now admited to turning in a false report. They reported Ron Paul having 0 votes, but then when a few of people stepped forth and pointed out that they themself voted for him, so it was impossible for him to get 0, they had to go back and check. Turns out, the town 'accidently' forgot to put down his votes, which he got over 30 of in that town. Anyone actually believe that they accidently forgot? And if so, what does that say about the election process?

It seems like we hear stuff like this after every election. So I am wondering what people think about the subject.

Elections always have been and always will be rife with fraud. On the other hand, polls have always been and will always be extremely inaccurate.

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Originally Posted by skysaw

Elections always have been and always will be rife with fraud.

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Do you vote?

Yes.

The polls were conducted before Hillary put on her poow wittle cwying incident a few days ago. That made the difference. What a bunch of suckers. And if by some chance her choking up act was for real, do we really want a president who starts crying when falling behind at something? We have a a very huge force of Islamofascism to deal with and all kinds of other stuff it takes a really tough president to work against.

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Originally Posted by skysaw

Yes.

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Why, then?

You can make a poll say anything. Polls are meaningless, and NH proves it.

So then the other factors really isn't a problem with you? That one town got caught and admited to it? What worries me, is when you catch one, theres normally others.

Other things that stand out is how long they take to report stuff in. Such as Iowa still having not reported in their totals yet. Whats going on with that?Theres also the report that poll watchers were kicked out of some areas.

I also wonder why they always use the machines from that same company. Everyone always complains about fraud when it comes to diebold.

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Its not just the polls though, a lot of people are also looking at the results, where on average Obama did far better in hand counted ballots compared to machine counted ballots. Maybe thats just another coincidence though? Though it seems on the republican side it also happened with Ron Paul.

They also caught one town which has now admited to turning in a false report. They reported Ron Paul having 0 votes, but then when a few of people stepped forth and pointed out that they themself voted for him, so it was impossible for him to get 0, they had to go back and check. Turns out, the town 'accidently' forgot to put down his votes, which he got over 30 of in that town.

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Hey Alric, could you post some links with these stories? I'd really like to read up on that.

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You can make a poll say anything. Polls are meaningless, and NH proves it.

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The same goes for votes too, unfortunately- if it's all done electronically(credit SolSkye for providing the link in the Ron Paul Thread)

COMPLETELY RIGGED....

I already knew about 2004's Kerry Bush voter fraud from Greg Palast and his book, Armed Madhouse. Also, don't forget the student tazered in Florida for questioning Kerry about it. But now, I've lost all faith in using the process to beat the process seeing these results in NH...

Don't get me wrong, I still have faith in the willpower of each individual that good can somehow overcome this evil overtaking the system, country, and world... we just have to think outside the box in order to do so. For starters, everyone should start by realizing that hopelessness is really what they feed off of, and get their power from. ;)

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The problem is 'The need to believe' or 'Hope'
Architect: "Hope. It is the quintessential human delusion... the source of your greatest strength".
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HOPE...A BOOST OF CONFIDENCE

The bradely effect, look it up.

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The problem could be 'The need to believe' or 'Hope'
Architect: "Hope. It is the quintessential human delusion... the source of your greatest strength".
It is interesting how people who are freed from the calculated world of the Matrix set up a Zion where religious belief is common and strong.

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It a shame that you don't realize the matrix sucks. The first one was okay, then the rest sucked.

No offense, however using the matrix in any debate is pointless. As it is rubbish.

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Originally Posted by wendylove

The bradely effect, look it up.

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I tried, but I didn't get anything ...

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Originally Posted by SolSkye

COMPLETELY RIGGED....

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Very interesting....

But I thought Fox News is not to be trusted?;)

Dennis Kucinich just asked for a recount in NH.

http://www.dennis4president.com/go/h...ion-integrity/

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Originally Posted by wendylove

The bradely effect, look it up.


It a shame that you don't realize the matrix sucks. The first one was okay, then the rest sucked.

No offense, however using the matrix in any debate is pointless. As it is rubbish.

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troll, look it up :roll:

It's a shame that you don't realize what a negative ill-informed dick you are.

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Originally Posted by Grod

Very interesting....

But I thought Fox News is not to be trusted?;)

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FAUX specializes in fear-mongering so I would only tend to believe them in this case because it incites fear and hopelessness. If you listen to the puppet reporting he even bragged about how you saw it on their channel first. They are an unofficial state-propaganda machine so I'd be inclined to believe something regarding fraud or lies on their channel first. They are just gloating and fear-mongering about who holds the keys to the election. If you watch the OUTFOXED documentary you'll see about how they reported Bush winning in 2000 first and all other channels rushed to pick it up even when it wasn't sure yet. They pretty much lied and helped Bush get into office when he wasn't even officially declared winner, yet.

Albert Howard is now asking for a recount for the republicans. Now Howard is a really minor person. Probably most people here havn't heard of him, but he was running. Obviously if a minor guy is willing to go to the trouble when he knows it wont help him, he believes something is going on.

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...EWS06/80110061

Could you all imagine the hysteria if/when it comes out that there was indeed fraud in the voting? Not just in our country, but think of how we're trying to instill 'democracy' to the middle east - how do you think they'll see this? We can't even keep our own deomocracy fair!

I'm all for hope and shit, but do you really think the powers that be would allow the truth to come out? I wouldn't be suprised if they'd kill to protect the 'secret' - because I bet it goes back a decade. I hope they are aware that there are citizens who would kill as well, to win the democracy back.

Anyone smell a real revolution in the not too distant future?
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(Don't think you posted this one yet - sent to me from my local Ron Paul meetup group: Election Fraud-NH)

People been caught before. Even some people who got sent to jail in the last election I believe. Anyway its already been proven that there was fraud, atleast two towns I have heard of have been caught. They both claim it was 'human error', which is bull in my opinion. Really its a matter of how wide spread it is, and if they catch them and how many are caught.

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Really its a matter of how wide spread it is, and if they catch them and how many are caught.

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Oh, and one other little minor thing - how much publicity it gets. :| C'mon now, this should be front page WORLD news - we're talking about the next leader of this very influential nation who claims to be so democratic and free.

honestly after bush stole the presidency twice, do you really think this election is gonna go anywhere honest?

how much more is it gonna take before the people rise up. oh that's right... they're too busy whacking off to porn.

Crying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKQEQ...260108Sham.htm

Doesn't that just fill you with confidence?

the elections are just a game played by the Elite. I couldnt stop laughing at hillary when she cried in the press.!!! hell yea, she got some good acting skills.

Elections are fraud, everything is controlled by the federal gouvernment we all know that.
So lets stop living in this dream world, and start to see the reailty. They choose who they need, who is able to finish their agenda. They picked up a woman and a black guy, for us to be blind folded, and pick a president by their gender and color. As you all see, womens like Hillary because she is a woman, and blacks like Obama since he is a black. How pathetic are these people these days? not knowing their real backround. We elect the killers worser than alqaida it self.

Clinton has around 10k people killed by his orders. His wife, is part of the Secret Society chain. He assassinated one of his fellow friends to get into presidency.

Obama, a little puppet who plays by their game and order. His goal is to become the first black president, for his own honor.

watch this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yshe...eature=related

diebold voting machine flips votes : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNYA5...eature=related

I don't care how the Republicrats pick their candidates so I don't care if it is rigged; I just wish they wouldn't use public money to do so.

Real elections are another thing, and if they can't make something as simple as a machinge that counts accurately with a print-out to double check it, they aren't trying, and don't want to have fair elections. I think that's obvious.

You should care, because if they are doing this now, you better believe they are doing it in the general election. Infact you have to ask, have they done it in the past? Well there are serious questions about that as well, a lot of people are still saying bush shouldn't have won, but did because of fraud. So just ignoring it because you dont think its important, it crazy.

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Originally Posted by Alric

You should care, because if they are doing this now, you better believe they are doing it in the general election. Infact you have to ask, have they done it in the past? Well there are serious questions about that as well, a lot of people are still saying bush shouldn't have won, but did because of fraud. So just ignoring it because you dont think its important, it crazy.

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Oh, I do think it has happened in the past, and will happen again. Like I said, it could be so easily fixed, but they won't do it. I do think it is important.

The part I don't think is important is how the two parties in control go about picking their candidates. The could pull their names out of hat for all I care. I don't think my taxes should go towards that process, since everyone is not included.

You are right that since they use the same system for both the primaries and the general election this is an indication of what is to come--but it's been going on for a while, I think that is pretty obvious.

Which is why its so important to bring it to peoples attention. If fraud is that common, it means we are already living in a totalitarian government.

whole things rigged. biggest dog and pony show man has ever seen.

that being said, I will vote. just in case. heh.

Oh look they made another video. Cut open boxes, seal that are taped back on. The person sticks half their hand into one of the "sealed" boxes at one point. They show them comming off the truck and nearly all of them are cut open, even a box that wasn't even closed all the way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHL_Y...unt_fiasco.htm

The problem is, the population is blind folded these days. They dont care who and what is or is gonna be the next president. They just need a leader who will mess around with their lives as he wishes. And they hope that the media will show them whats going on. Which in fact is the opposite, all the lies are shown on the TV's stations.

The concept, is why do we still have votes than? , since they control the vote counts, are we useless in this case? our votes dont count, nor do they take a look at them. We are disregarded as "ants". I think its time to wake up.

Democracy+Republic= R.I.P Dictatorship = F^ck