Thread: Anti-Sex

I think a lot of teens don't quite get the point that heterosexual sex can cause pregnancy. They know it as a fact, but they are often not at a high enough level of awareness of it. It is something they need to really think about in vivid detail.

Condoms are not fool proof. If they were, I would say teens should have at it and just wear condoms. But that is not enough of a guarantee. A lot of guys get screwed in the head mentally when a girl they got pregnant has an abortion, and it is all up to the girl whether she even has one. If she does not, they have a baby to deal with. That is heavy duty stuff for a teenager. That message needs to be made clear. However, on top of that, the message should be that if they are going to take that risk and have sex any way, they need to use protection.

Perhaps if we encouraged contraception more, the more potent contraception would be used perhaps by females at a younger age.

Omg Eagle, you are absolutely right!!

I think parents and teachers think that if kids learn about contraception and stuff, then they will have a higher chance of going out and having sex. Studies have shown that this is not the case. In fact, it's the kids who know next to nothing about sex who are having all of it.

Condoms are way more effective than most people realize. The fact of the matter is that people just don't use them, or they don't use them regularly, or they don't know where to get them, or they feel embarrassed asking their partner to comply, etc etc etc.

On top of condoms, there are SO many other ways that people can be extremely protected during sex. It's really sad how little the general public, especially teenagers, know about this. The U.S. has the highest rate of teen pregnancy in the world, and our teens know the least about sex and contraception in the world as well. Hmmm, am I the only one who sees a connection here or what?

The flip side is, what will this do to reproductive development as the ages for contraception get younger and younger?

The irony is, one day, infertility may become a major problem and such thoughts will be viewed by later generations with grief and anger.

^^ Infertility a major problem? What do you mean?

Originally Posted by Traveling_Troubador

The flip side is, what will this do to reproductive development as the ages for contraception get younger and younger?

The irony is, one day, infertility may become a major problem and such thoughts will be viewed by later generations with grief and anger.

Ya i heard about that to. Apparently Girls and boys are developing earlier and earlier. Some people Attribute this to the chemicals in meat and dairy products.

Originally Posted by dragonoverlord

Ya i heard about that to. Apparently Girls and boys are developing earlier and earlier. Some people Attribute this to the chemicals in meat and dairy products.

What the heck are you talking about. You mean menarche and genarche? If so, then that has been attributed to better nutrition and better health care treatment. What's the problem?

What I mean is, that with the combination of biological agents, chemical tampering of foodstuffs, overmedication, and radiation poisoning after a nuclear apocalypse sort of event, that finding a "healthy" candidate for reproduction might be hard to find one day due to humanity's own tinkering. Anyone here ever play Fallout?

So teenagers who can barely support themselves, let alone children, should be popping kids out like bunnies while they still can...

I didn't say that. It's not a problem. It's a possible problem.

If it comes to pass, there's nothing we can do about it but put one foot in front of the other and do our best, as people always have to survive.

It seems like there are two major schools of thought on the issue. One is that educators should say, "Don't have sex until you are married. End of discussion," and the other one is that educators should say, "Hey kids, here are some condoms for you. They are for protection against pregnancy and diseases when you have sex. Enjoy yourselves. End of discussion." What I believe in is major education on sex when kids are in sixth or seventh grade, and maybe every school year after that. I want them to really, really understand what it is all about. They should watch documentaries about teens who have children to raise. They should know all of the statistics concerning sexually transmitted diseases. They need to know the odds of pregnancy in all kinds of scenarios and with every type of contraceptive. The more they know, the better.

^^ Yeah I totally agree with that. Lots of parents have really ridiculous problems with proper sex education for young kids because they assume gaining knowledge on the matter leads to more of the activity. I bet this all originates from religious values and crap. There are countries like Sweden that educate their children in grade school, and they haven't beat us with teen pregnancies yet.

They need to know diseases, contraception, ODDS about everything, the biology of how everything works... Sex is such a huge mystery in this country.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

It seems like there are two major schools of thought on the issue. One is that educators should say, "Don't have sex until you are married. End of discussion," and the other one is that educators should say, "Hey kids, here are some condoms for you. They are for protection against pregnancy and diseases when you have sex. Enjoy yourselves. End of discussion." What I believe in is major education on sex when kids are in sixth or seventh grade, and maybe every school year after that. I want them to really, really understand what it is all about. They should watch documentaries about teens who have children to raise. They should know all of the statistics concerning sexually transmitted diseases. They need to know the odds of pregnancy in all kinds of scenarios and with every type of contraceptive. The more they know, the better.

In the words of a man greater than I, "CORRECTIMUNDO!"

In my sex-ed class, we were almost encouraged to do whatever we want, aslong as we used a condom. The sex-ed guy didn't really tell us to not have sex, though he did show us some charts on the sex debut statistics, to give us a picture on when we should get active.

Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

What the heck are you talking about. You mean menarche and genarche? If so, then that has been attributed to better nutrition and better health care treatment. What's the problem?

Whats menarche and genarche? I was only saying i heard that kids are reaching puberty earlier and earlier because of for example the growth horomones that are used on cattle to make them "grow" faster or whatever. The kids eat the cattle with the growht horomone and in turn it effects them...

I guess your idea makes more sense though. Im no expert on this stuff..

I agree with UM on this. People need to know more about sex. It permeates every advertising medium and yet people know so little about it. Very sad.

Age of consent in my state is 16.

In my high school health class, the teacher supported a teen's right to make their own decisions, and taught us about each contraception. He then showed us a birth video that scared half the girls to death. You should have seen the look on one girl's face -- you could tell she wasn't going to have sex for a while

Originally Posted by dragonoverlord

Whats menarche and genarche? I was only saying i heard that kids are reaching puberty earlier and earlier because of for example the growth horomones that are used on cattle to make them "grow" faster or whatever. The kids eat the cattle with the growht horomone and in turn it effects them...

I guess we're talking about the same thing. Menarche is the onset of menstruation, and genarche is like the rough equivalent for boys.

Puberty is starting earlier not because of cattle growth hormones but because of better nutrition and access to medicine. At least, that's the main, undisputed factor.

Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

^^ Yeah I totally agree with that. Lots of parents have really ridiculous problems with proper sex education for young kids because they assume gaining knowledge on the matter leads to more of the activity.

Heh, in a lot of cases I don't think there's that much reasoning behind it. Parents just find the topic extremely uncomfortable and don't want to talk about it. And/or they have guilt and shame about their own sexual behavior and have avoided examining or developing their own ideas about sexuality.

Originally Posted by Taosaur

Heh, in a lot of cases I don't think there's that much reasoning behind it. Parents just find the topic extremely uncomfortable and don't want to talk about it. And/or they have guilt and shame about their own sexual behavior and have avoided examining or developing their own ideas about sexuality.

Heh That's probably true.

"The more you tell someone not to do something, but do not give them a good reason not to, they will do it anyway. This is why religion was invented. This also why "Because I said so" parents fail" ~ Me

yeah i had health class last year at school. my teacher sent us to a site that was all about outercourse and different things that seemed a little out there. one direct quote that ill never forget was "explore the buttox"

Well, one of the major problems with teens is lack of sex education. Our human bodies are designed to have sex at practically anytime. When we hit puberty and later years our bodies litrally scream for sex. If you study what Estress cycles are about, they are the womans monthly heat. During this time their standards for what they seek in a mate drastically change for about a period of 5 days. During this time they don't always use common sense. My best guess is this: a teen girl hooks up with a guy and the first time they have sex he uses a condom. She goes in her head "Oh he seems to know what he is doing therefore i trust him" and since she rationalises him using a condom with other girls, therefore it's ok to not use a condom with him the next time. either that or both parties are extremely drunk, a lot of common sense goes out the window inder the influence.

Originally Posted by ranma187

Well, one of the major problems with teens is lack of sex education. Our human bodies are designed to have sex at practically anytime. When we hit puberty and later years our bodies litrally scream for sex. If you study what Estress cycles are about, they are the womans monthly heat. During this time their standards for what they seek in a mate drastically change for about a period of 5 days. During this time they don't always use common sense. My best guess is this: a teen girl hooks up with a guy and the first time they have sex he uses a condom. She goes in her head "Oh he seems to know what he is doing therefore i trust him" and since she rationalises him using a condom with other girls, therefore it's ok to not use a condom with him the next time. either that or both parties are extremely drunk, a lot of common sense goes out the window inder the influence.

I agree with everything except the "being in heat" thing. No studies have been able to show any kind of increased sexual activity in women during her time of ovulation. One explanation I've heard for that is that a lot more goes in to sex for humans than hormones... which is true.