Ironically a gay incest relation doesn't make me that freaked.
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I think this sorta falls under freedom of choice.
if it doesn't affect me, why should i oppose it?
still i find the thought revolting:P
I know that I would be extremely attracted to my mother and my sister if I were not related to them, but the fact that they are my mother and my sister keeps me from being attracted to them at all.
What do people think about sex with third cousins? I think I had a chance with one of mine, and she is very good looking. I just couldn't bring myself to going through with it. It seems way too messed up.
You know, being gay myself, the idea of gay incest is definitely a turn-on. I mean.. Ok we might not feel anything sexual for our siblings.. But if we did it would just rock. It's someone who'll always be by your side, will share your views, will be trustworthy, you will always be related to anyway, someone you already have a level of intimacy with, and it's especially great if you're the narcisist type - it would be a really cool relationship.
Aff people c'mon. Siblings and parents are one thing. Cousins are another one. I've already had sex with one cousin (well hypothetically - we started it but didn't finish), and made out with another one. And they are both first-level cousins; one male and one female.
Gay incest and hot mothers. I'm glad I stopped by. This is some good convo.
I have a good looking sister. So what?
If you really want to get into this shit, you could start confessing if you've had any fantasies about your siblings....OOOOO can you take that big of a step?
Yeah, so what? If you mention that, you have to talk about whether or not you would do her.
It's not in me to think about my sister like that, so no, but I know that if I didn't know she was my sister, I would have already risked having retarded babies.
No. She's getting married on Thursday. I'll be at the wedding as a groomsman in my spanky Class A army uniform. O dude, the wedding pussy!!!!!
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Dude, you do not even know...you don't even know.
I say we call ourselves Naibsel, Sandform ^^
Haha, good for you to admit.
Even if incest stays illegal there will always be some people who are still going to do it.
As someone has already stated we already know that incest isn't right, it comes naturally and that's the way we are created! The majority of us don't get turned on at the thought of family members.
But when the odd case does come up that relatives are in love with each other, as strange as it may seem I don't think it's fair that they wouldn't be able to marry or have children.
I completely follow The White Rabbit on that one :D
If only you knew how good my cousins look...
Oh wonderful :)
I agree with the notion that we have evolved with a natural disgust for incest because it is harmful for the human race as a whole. if there was nothing biologically wrong with incest, we would not have evolved with a natural disgust for it
it takes culture to normally lift that taboo.
would it be wrong if there was nothing biologically wrong with it? no
a lot of people believe in whats called a twin flame. you can look it up online. its similar to the idea of a soul mate. your twin flame will be your ying or yang, depending on which you are. people who want a happy and balanced marriage dream of marrying their twin flame. they think of their twin flame as their ultimate lover on earth *they THINK*
but on a spiritual level, your twin flame is your twin brother or sister. a soul created from the same source as you at the same moment as you, and holds the opposite force as you *masculine or feminine*
your twin flame is just that, your soul twin. YOUR BROTHER-SISTER TWIN. and many twin flames marry.
*twin flames don't always have a romantic relationship, and marriage can be just as happy if you don't marry your twin flame*
I personally don't think being grossed about incest has biological reasons, but cultural ones. Just like living beings, culture evolves.
Let's suppose there is civilisation A, which approves of incest, and civilisation B, which is against it.
Having children with close relatives *does* offer the risk of biological problems. For that reason, culture B would grow wider and healthier than culture A.
Finally, let's not forget evolution is not about survival of the best, but about survival of the one who reproduces more. Extreme intelligence isn't an evolutionary advantage, for example, because usually these people can see the world so clearly, that things such as having pleasure don't mean anything. Unfortunately, we live in a world where the most ignorant and poor, which is also the one who reproduces more, is the one to overtake the others.
There actually is a tribe in which incest is commonplace. 60-70% of the people there are deaf and they invented their own sign language.
I'm pretty certain that not having sexual affection for kids, parents and siblings is a natural and necessary psychological function that one is born with. For the exact reason I gave above: If you don't develop this trait in the long run your tribe is going to go to shits and you'll be eaten by tigers. Simple. It's actually a mechanism to protect the gene pool.
Its actually true that a lot of people say incest with cousins does not cause any problems. Its legal in a lot of places in the world, especially in eastern countries. Infact, I believe its even legal in some states in America.
I think the reason its frowned on in western cultures is because of the kings and queens in europe. We all know they were into incest and stuff, and we also know a lot of them ended up really screwed up because of it. Of course, thats just a guess. Personally, I say theres more than enough people in the world, that you dont need to find anyone related.
I just don't see any reason for it to be illegal. That sux. It's just like prohibiting sex between younglings and peopel of age. I believe that, if it is consented, it's not the law's scope to tell people what to do or what not to do. That's why I'm also in favour of legalising marijuana and other weak drugs. They might do bad for your health, but it's not the law's scope to stop you from doing it.
The reason it's frowned upon in western cultures is fucking religion. And believe me, Alric, if you like a person that's for twist of fate your relative, nobody else in the world can substitute them. Love has no barriers. Outlawing incest is like outlawing homosexual relationships, black-white relationships.
Uhh, I wouldn't go as far as to allow sex between any age groups whatsoever, e.g. children and adults. I mean, 18 as the age of consult like in the states - that is plain bullshit. Here in Germany 14 is basically the age of consent so long as the older person doesn't take advantage of the lack of sexual autonomy. So you can't just meet up with teens to have sex with them, it has to be in some sort of longer relationship. I think 14 is pretty much the lowest you should go, and 16 the highest. I actually know a dude who's 41 and he met his girlfriend when she was 15. It's a bit unusual but she doesn't seem to be getting taken advantage of or some such thing. I don't see why that would be illegal...
I don't think the reason for having incest banned is religion primarily. The problem is that it fucks up the gene pool and a culture of incest is basically bound to ruin the genetic makeup of a community. Also, parent-child sexuality as a form of incest must be outlawed, because it causes great psychological damage to the child.
The teacher at my old school is married to his cousin and i think they got kids too. Really strange guy too.
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And since when do humans listen to evolution rather than religion? xD The christian bible condemns incest. There you go.Quote:
I don't think the reason for having incest banned is religion primarily. The problem is that it fucks up the gene pool and a culture of incest is basically bound to ruin the genetic makeup of a community. Also, parent-child sexuality as a form of incest must be outlawed, because it causes great psychological damage to the child.
And I do agree about psychological damage of parent-child relationships. But I don't see why, e.g. a person that has never seen her dad can't meet him one day and commit.
The age restriction on sex is important. I don't know if any of you have ever read psychological books, but just like WORKING at too young an age, having SEX at too young an age is psychologically detrimental.
Studies showed (many many many years ago) that a child has to hit specific milestones at very important times, sex and work are two of them.