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Back on topic now. Here's a good video.
http://www.reuters.com/news/video?vi...nnel=1&sp=true
Just because one random guy believes it, doesn't mean it is true. We need source, evidence, and proof - not opinions.
Btw, that sig of tours is ridiculous. ;P
I sorta believe this! And why you ask? Because i really can't imagine military officials who served to protect millions of lives would lie about aliens and UFO's, why would they?
This is starting to sound retarded as ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kromoh
thats what the disclosure project is all about
they are saying
1. we have sources
2. we have evidence
3. we have proof
but this is top secret military stuff that can not be disclosed without someone losing their head. the disclosure project is arguing that it needs to be disclosed because
1. it will be beneficial to our energy crisis. and beneficial to the average man as energy will be cost efficient
2. these top secret projects are no longer under the control of the president, OR congress - thus, no longer under american control. as both congress and the president *since he's only around for a few years* have both been denied access. the disclosure project is afraid this creates a secret government - an unchecked government with powerful technology
so its more about an unchecked secret government, human rights, than it is about aliens. the disclosure project has to do things legitimately. because some of its members are under oath, they can't talk unless they want to lose their lives. so they are asking us to write to our congressmen and making our congressmen aware that any secret government that is no longer under presidential or congress - is really against everything this nation stands for
in short
we may never even know the truth, the military has secrets for a reason. but the idea is, at least someone who we vote into office will
Sincerely, juroara, you sound so stupid saying that. This reminds me of that joke about malac's 100% LD technique. It was like "we have it, it's here, we have it, we're about to release it", but then they never release it. If you have the information, don't go making a fuzz about it without releasing it first.
First, they release the so-called irrefutable information. Then, you try to prove me wrong.
Human beings go crazy trying to find something to believe in. Need for faith is as strong as money interest.
Human beings like you are pathetic.
Uh, pardon me, but how can a base be on the "dark side of the moon" when in reality, there is no dark side of the moon?Quote:
3. There is a base on the dark side of the moon, this was discovered many years ago. This base is alien. Alien spaceships have been seen around this moon base by our astronauts
http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2...k-side-of.html
http://amos.indiana.edu/library/scripts/darkside.html
Unless it's a darkness seeking moving base organism that stalks out the side of the moon that is dark at that particular moment.
The Disclosure Project is proof that people truly will believe anything they read on the internet.
Hahhaha soooo right! :banana:
Finally someone has spoken of true proof in this thread. :D
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This reminds me of: http://www.theflatearthsociety.net. FLAT EARTH! OMG, it's on the Internet, it must be right!
If you don't like the thread then get the hell out of it, instead of insulting people who may believe in this sort of thing, i think many things are a load of crap but i don't insult the people who believe it.
Volcon the dark side of the moon is the side we cannot see from earth, sheeesh
go starfire :banana:
You sound stupid saying there is no source and one random person believing it. She is way more realistic than you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kromoh
Harsh words for no reason other than your own inability to be respectful. Another mindless insult towards someone genuine complete.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kromoh
I don't mind my signature looks ridiculous in your eyes. That is exactly what you deserve.
haha so excitedly retarded. The disclosure project is proof that it's not just the internet and people like you act cowardly towards evidence. I don't think you are even old enough to have realistic conclusions about this yet. You should be concentrating on other fundamental stuff like why your obsession with doubt plagues your thinking process to the point where rationality is extinct even before your full brain development.Quote:
Don't call other humans pathetic.
If you really look at it, "ufology" is remarkably similar to cryptozoology, in that it relies entirely on anecdotal and crappy film as so-called evidence. If you were a real scientist, or even studied real science, you would see that film and anecdotes are never treated as reliable scientific evidence, ever. It doesn't matter whether you're talking about Bigfoot, aliens, or quarks. The only way to prove something's existence is controlled, repeatable experimentation. Anything less isn't science.
What does it rely on again? What does it not rely on? It's got every aspect of evidence existent covered. Can't say it's not science just because you don't want it to be science. You can call anything anecdotal and crappy. I think that describes your idea of science for example.Quote:
If you really look at it, "ufology" is remarkably similar to cryptozoology, in that it relies entirely on anecdotal and crappy film as so-called evidence.
If you were more sane you would understand film is not always just anecdotes, nor is the evidence limited to that. That the word reliable is relative to your understanding of science. You would also understand that this subject is basically not debatable anymore as to it's authenticity as something provable. It is definitely real and known to be real. Doubt is imaginary sometimes and is due to a long held dogma about preconceived illogical misconceptions from a lack of information and willingness to understand the subject.Quote:
If you were a real scientist, or even studied real science, you would see that film and anecdotes are never treated as reliable scientific evidence, ever.
You forgot to mention it also doesn't matter whether you're talking about pineapple pizzas. Arnold Schwarzenegger chasing an ice ream truck with a funny wig, or electrons.Quote:
It doesn't matter whether you're talking about Bigfoot, aliens, or quarks.
This isn't anything less, it's more.Quote:
The only way to prove something's existence is controlled, repeatable experimentation. Anything less isn't science.
85% of UFO sightings can be explained, the other 15% cannot be explained.
Sightings come from air officials, pilots reporting sightings yet nothing showing on radar, military jets have been sent to intercept them, bigfoot on the other hand has not been sighted by military officials...
See what i mean...
Also there are parts of the planet which have not been explored, so does that mean we have knowledge of every species of animal on earth? Just because we dont have physical evidence of it being there doesn't make it not exist.
Why do they even cover up UFO's and stuff? I mean, it's alittle late to be saying stuff like "Well the world would go into a paniced state!"
Right now, I don't think we would...I think the world can handle some alien stuff.
You can't just say random percentages lol.Quote:
85% of UFO sightings can be explained, the other 15% cannot be explained.
Nothing on radar yet mainstream media already reported military released footage of radar tracked UFOs chasing military aircraft in Mexico. Sending aircraft to intercept something is different to bigfoot.Quote:
Sightings come from air officials, pilots reporting sightings yet nothing showing on radar, military jets have been sent to intercept them, bigfoot on the other hand has not been sighted by military officials...
See what i mean...
How blind do you have to be to not know that they are tracked on radar?That is only one instance for an example when there is thousands. Yet you say nothing on radar when records and people know different.
Then you mention Bigfoot not on radar? Military officials have not sighted Arnold Schwarzenegger chasing an ice cream truck with a funny wig on from radar. But that doesn't matter does it because we are talking about something different than pineapple express.