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      Quote Originally Posted by Alextanium View Post
      Did it not occur to you that the reason the Bible contains mentions of these stories is not because they are separate accounts of the same event, but that the Bible is a blatant plaguerism of the previous 3000 years of mythology that came before it? All of your notations of "does this sound oddly familiar" should have hit you right between the eyes that yes, it does sound familiar. But not because it's two separate accounts. Its the same fairytale, plaguerised. Even the story of Jesus' birth isn't original, it's a rip-off of Egyptian mythology.
      Sumerian. Not Egyptian...both are two different things. And yes I'm quite aware that it's a plagiarism. I alluded to this many time...you, however...took it literally that I didn't know what was going on. I assure...I'm aware.



      Hog-wash. How do you get spacial co-ordinates from a rough etching on a clay tablet from 4,500 BC Sumeria? And how are they specific to their relative position 'to this very day'? You've taken an etching of a star with 11 'dots' around it and seen when you wanted to see.
      I apologize for this. I can see how this was misleading. The planets themsleves are in the correct patterns they are today. But as for the coordinates, no this was not stated in the Sumerian text. But they did detail the planets colors, the firmanents (asteroid belts etc.) in their text...they gave firm descriptions as to how they looked and what the planets were comprised of. All without a telescope. I suggest you read them sometime.

      Lastly, the ability to interbreed between species is only possible between species that have a recent common ancestor. I don't see how extra-terrestrials from a completely different planet would have even remotely similar DNA structures to ours (if their genomes are made of DNA at all) to allow for sexual combination that leads to offspring that aren't infertile, as hyrbidisations do. Now you might be able to argue that advancements in genetics can create a work-around to this, but since there is no evidence of any of this at all you may as well say that the Flying Spaghetti Monster waved his noodley appendage and made it happen.
      A few hundred years ago the people of our modern world thought that the world was flat...when ancient civilizations knew thousands of years before them, that it was in fact spherical...ish. And depending upon who you ask, there's a certain amount of evidence that alludes to the genetic manipulation of our species. However, if you like your "evidence" to interrupt your nightly television programs with the President giving a speech on what they found...then I'm afraid you'll be sorely disappointed. So I suppose this is the part where I say...

      Flying Spaghetti Monster waved his noodley appendage and made it happen.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Jeff777 View Post

      A few hundred years ago the people of our modern world thought that the world was flat...when ancient civilizations knew thousands of years before them, that it was in fact spherical...ish. And depending upon who you ask, there's a certain amount of evidence that alludes to the genetic manipulation of our species.
      You're right that humans knew throughout most of history that the Earth is a sphere. In fact, the notion of Earth being flat only existed prior to the agricultural revolution and during a very brief period in Europe in the middle ages when religion briefly made it illegal to think.

      However, thinking the Earth is round is very intuitive. All you need to do is look up at the moon when it's a quarter full to see that most celestial bodies must be spheres. But this is an example of something obvious being obvious. To somehow use this as evidence for your ridiculous, non-intuitive rubbish is fallacious. Science never said the Earth was flat. Popes said that. So if you're gonna trust something, trust science, and not the quasi-religious doom sayers.

      You're not the bastard child of an alien god. Get over it.

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      You really do believe what you want, don't you? First you claimed I implicitly stated America's president's were in "cahoots" with alien visitors...when I didn't. You state my original post had to do with the 2012 mythos/lore...which it doesn't. And now you claim that I believe I am a descendant of Lord Enki...which I don't. You plant words in my mouth and try to debunk the words you planted there. With all due respect...you sir, are an ego-tripping moron. Do not address me again.
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      there's a certain amount of evidence that alludes to the genetic manipulation of our species.
      Like what?

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      The Documentary Evidence


      The documentary evidence, i.e. the historical documentation for the existence and deeds of the Anunnaki, has been available to us since the early 1800's. The excavation of the ancients sites of Mesopotamia brought to light the amazingly advanced civilization of Sumer and, with it, thousands of clay tablets containing not only mundane records of commerce, marriages, military actions and astronomical calculation systems but of the history of the Anunnaki themselves. It is clear from these records that the Sumerians knew these aliens to be real flesh and blood. The library of the ruler, Ashurbanipal, at Nineveh was discovered to have burnt down and the clay tablets held there were fired, preserving them for our reading. Even to this day, more and more records are discovered. One of the most impressive finds, in very recent time, has been a sealed, nine foot by 6 foot room in Sippar holding, neatly arranged on shelves, a set of some 400 elaborate clay tablets containing an unbroken record of the history of those ancient times, a sort of time capsule. Again, the evidence is so overwhelming and robust that , if it weren't for those with power enough to suppress, it would have been accepted and our world view changed a century ago or perhaps sooner.



      The Genetic Evidence


      The recovered records place the location of the Anunnaki laboratory where the first humans were literally produced in east central Africa (supports the out of africa theory) just above their gold mines. This falls precisely on the map where the mitochondrial DNA "search for Eve" places the first woman homo-sapiens sapiens and in the same time frame. The evidence of advanced genetic engineering is all there in the ancient documents.. Our rapid progress from inception to going to Mars soon, after only 250,000 years, does not correspond to the million year periodicities of slow evolutionary development of other species such as homo erectus before us. The HH paradigm shows that the Creationists were only half wrong and the Evolutionists only half right: there was a creation event but it was a genetic engineering process; there is an evolutionary process but it was interrupted in our regard by the Anunnaki for their own practical purposes. We shall be forced to introduce an additional category: a synthesized species.
      I hope this answers your question, if not I'll try and find other sources of info later seeing as I'm a bit pressed for time right now. If you want to read more from the above text, click here
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      Quote Originally Posted by Jeff777 View Post
      You really do believe what you want, don't you? First you claimed I implicitly stated America's president's were in "cahoots" with alien visitors...when I didn't. You state my original post had to do with the 2012 mythos/lore...which it doesn't. And now you claim that I believe I am a descendant of Lord Enki...which I don't. You plant words in my mouth and try to debunk the words you planted there. With all due respect...you sir, are an ego-tripping moron. Do not address me again.
      You said that humans were some sort of advanced alien/ape hybrid, or at least that's what I gathered from your crap. And like I said, the other stuff does have a lot in common with 2012 bullshit, whether you can see that or not.

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      Quote Originally Posted by invader_tech View Post
      He said homo sapiens "popped up" out of nowhere, not monkeys.
      well, the same applies for humans. we evolved from whatever, we didn't just pop into existence.

      Quote Originally Posted by invader_tech View Post
      Not once in my years of looking through possible 2012 scenarios have I ever heard that one. Maybe if we're lucky though, that scientific theory backing the pole shift will hold true. Oh wait, science backs a possible doomsday scenario for 2012? I'm certain those scientists only did it for the lulz.
      there's a scenario for every year, some are just bigger than others. the main one, the mayan prophecy, says nothing about the world ending. the date it gives is when the mayan colander resets to day 0. all their "prophecy" says is something along the line of the world will transcend into the future and will possibly be good or bad, depending on how we choose to enter it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jeff777 View Post
      Thank you drewmandan. 2012 is a very interesting subject to me as well but nowhere within my original post did I mention it, nibiru or a planet hitting earth. If you were to ask the egyptologist dr. zacharias sitchin...he would tell you nibiru is set to come back around earth 150 or so years from now. Once again...nowhere did I mention 2012, "planet x" or anything of that nature. Where people get the idea that a giant rock will hit us in 2012 is beyond me.
      scientists have been watching an asteroid that's traveling through space and they at first thought it might possibly hit the earth in 2012, but now they measure it at being about 600,000+ miles away from us in 2012, or something like that.

      Quote Originally Posted by Jeff777 View Post
      Why would they want to? I can't fathom the mindset of an advanced being and trying to futile
      then i'd use the same conclusion and say i don't see a reason why an advanced race would waste time coming to earth to mingle with pity humans if they were so "advanced" and "god-like."

      Quote Originally Posted by Jeff777 View Post
      Lol, that's reaching imo. blue eyed humans is one thing...black eyed humans with stars in their eyes is another. Besides, blue eyes develop because less melanin...brown eyes are the opposite.
      black bug-eyed aliens is another thing to, so are you suggesting now that when the black-eyed aliens and the brown-eyed (or whatever) humans breeded, that's how blue-eyed people came to be? if so, then we'd also have to say that's probably where blonde hair came from.

      Quote Originally Posted by Jeff777 View Post
      Where did you get this notion?
      well if they were more advanced than us i'd expect them to be driving around in lamborghinis and ferraris, or for a scientist to find a laptop dating back to about 10,000BC give or take a few thousand years with their writings and pictures on a floppy disc instead of on a wall.

      Quote Originally Posted by Jeff777 View Post
      Hitler himself probably was not a descendant of Lord Enki. Hitler was not even Aryan. And for the last part of your question...do you remember when I wrote out that Hitler funded many expeditions to seek out ancient knowledge?
      so, in his travels someone told him the story and provided all these writings for him to have "proof"?

      Quote Originally Posted by Jeff777 View Post
      Enki was not the only one breeding, his brothers, sisters and their offspring as well all threw their "magickal sperm" into the circle of "human" life. The reason men and women lived to ripe old ages in excess of 969 years...was not explained in the bible. It merely said that God one day decided man's years should be cut down to one hundred and twenty...and so it was. However...in the Sumerian writings...the "higher gods" were immortal. And it does state that Adapa (Enki's son, the half-breed) lived for a long long....long time. I would attribute this to immortality being in the "higher gods" DNA. Therefore the half-breeds naturally can't be immortal themselves...but they do get to live a "few millenia". The holy blood became diluted even more and more and more when half-breeds mated with human women, and their offspring mated with humans, and their offspring mated with humans etc. Which would explain why we don't live as long as those long ages reported in Sumerian and Biblio times.
      ok, i got the notion that every person had died besides a select few from the "great flood" and was basically an adam and eve story, except it was an alien and human creating the offspring that came to be new humans.

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      I have to admit I may have skimmed some parts, but I think the fact that the Sumerian religion was similar to the bible doesn't prove much, for one the bible used a lot of different sources, such as astrology, and pagan religions, as well as Egyptian religions, it seems people who (if religion is fake, which I assume it is) wrote it researched these ancient stories much and kind of rewrote it in an entirely different way, ofcourse that doesn't disprove it.

      And the fact that the features Enki passed on survived with 1 blood line for so long is unlikely to me, they would have to be very strong, else they would just blend in and die away, that's like dropping a white drop of paint into a whole can of black paint, it isn't going to change much, of course I could be wrong.

      But hey this all could be right some how, I'm just saying I personally doubt it, a lot.

      I also think that the 25 presidents related, is quite unlikely, possibly misinformation.
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      So...Aliens came...couldn't kill the sumerians...and Hitler found out...so he liked them?

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      Very interesting read, some food for thought, thanks for posting.

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      Quote Originally Posted by LucidDreamGod View Post
      And the fact that the features Enki passed on survived with 1 blood line for so long is unlikely to me, they would have to be very strong, else they would just blend in and die away, that's like dropping a white drop of paint into a whole can of black paint, it isn't going to change much, of course I could be wrong.
      Exactly. The bloodline today would be very much diluted unless inter-marriages continued on to preserve as much higher concentration of it as possible.

      I also think that the 25 presidents related, is quite unlikely, possibly misinformation.
      I assure you it's fact. It may not be publicly known but I encourage you to research the validity of that yourself, I have.

      Quote Originally Posted by Sandform View Post
      So...Aliens came...couldn't kill the sumerians...and Hitler found out...so he liked them?
      Couldn't kill the Sumerians? I'm afraid I'm not understanding your question Sandform. Would you mind rephrasing it?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Jeff777 View Post
      Couldn't kill the Sumerians? I'm afraid I'm not understanding your question Sandform. Would you mind rephrasing it?
      i think he's talking about the part were they attempted to murder whatever.. but i thought it was the sumerians trying to kill one of the aliens, i probably misread it.

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      Ah I think I know what he's referring to. Well according to the text mankind had been killed off except for Ziusudra and his kids etc. that were in the boat during the time of the great deluge. Afterwards, Ziusudra re-populated, his family re-populated and probably the God's themselves re-populated too.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Jeff777 View Post
      Ah I think I know what he's referring to. Well according to the text mankind had been killed off except for Ziusudra and his kids etc. that were in the boat during the time of the great deluge. Afterwards, Ziusudra re-populated, his family re-populated and probably the God's themselves re-populated too.
      any idea if his kids were male or female? because if not then we're all descendants of the aliens probably.

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      The Sumerian creation myth, the earliest account of the Sumerian creation and Flood myth, is found on a single fragmentary tablet excavated in Nippur, sometimes called the Eridu Genesis. It is written in the Sumerian language and datable by its script to the 18th century BC (First Dynasty of Babylon, where the language of writing and administration was still Sumerian). The tablet was published in 1914 by Arno Poebel.
      Where the tablet picks up, the gods An, Enlil, Enki and Ninhursanga create the Sumerians (the "black-headed people") and the animals. Then kingship descends from heaven and the first cities are founded - Eridu, Bad-tibira, Larsa, Sippar, and Shuruppak.

      After a missing section in the tablet, we learn that the gods have decided to send a flood to destroy mankind. Zi-ud-sura, the king and gudug priest, learns of this. (In the later Akkadian version, Ea, or Enki in Sumerian, the god of the waters, warns the hero (Atra-hasis in this case) and gives him instructions for the ark. This is missing in the Sumerian fragment, but a mention of Enki taking counsel with himself suggests that this is Enki's role in the Sumerian version as well.)

      When the tablet resumes it is describing the flood. A terrible storm rocks the huge boat for seven days and seven nights, then Utu (the Sun god) appears and Zi-ud-sura creates an opening in the boat, prostrates himself, and sacrifices oxen and sheep.

      After another break the text resumes, the flood is apparently over, the animals disembark and Zi-ud-sura prostrates himself before An (sky-god) and Enlil (chief of the gods), who give him eternal life and take him to dwell in Dilmun for "preserving the animals and the seed of mankind". The remainder of the poem is lost.

      Dilmun
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      Dilmun (sometimes transliterated Telmun) is a land mentioned by Mesopotamian Civilizations as a trade partner, source of raw material, copper, and entrepot of the Mesopotamia and the Indus Valley Civilization trade route. Although the exact location of Dilmun is unclear, it might be associated with the islands of Bahrain, Eastern Province, Qatar, Oman and nearby Iranian coast in the Persian Gulf.
      Sources:
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      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilmun

      so according to the story, ziusudra is immortal and wandering the earth.

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      Source:
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      The Flood Story:

      Segment A

      approx. 36 lines missing

      1-10. …… sets up ……. "I will …… the perishing of my mankind; for Nintur, I will stop the annihilation of my creatures, and I will return the people from their dwelling grounds. Let them build many cities so that I can refresh myself in their shade. Let them lay the bricks of many cities in pure places, let them establish places of divination in pure places, and when the fire-quenching …… is arranged, the divine rites and exalted powers are perfected and the earth is irrigated, I will establish well-being there."

      10-14. After An, Enlil, Enki and Ninḫursaĝa had fashioned the black-headed people, they also made animals multiply everywhere, and made herds of four-legged animals exist on the plains, as is befitting.
      approx. 32 lines missing
      Segment B

      1-3.
      3 lines fragmentary

      4-5. "I will oversee their labour. Let …… the builder of the Land, dig a solid foundation."

      6-18. After the …… of kingship had descended from heaven, after the exalted crown and throne of kingship had descended from heaven, the divine rites and the exalted powers were perfected, the bricks of the cities were laid in holy places, their names were announced and the …… were distributed. The first of the cities, Eridug, was given to Nudimmud the leader. The second, Bad-tibira, was given to the Mistress. The third, Larag, was given to Pabilsaĝ. The fourth, Zimbir, was given to the hero Utu. The fifth, Šuruppag, was given to Sud. And after the names of these cities had been announced and the …… had been distributed, the river ……, …… was watered, and with the cleansing of the small canals …… were established.
      approx. 34 lines missing
      Segment C

      1-27. ……seat in heaven. …… flood. …… mankind. So he made ……. Then Nintur ……. Holy Inana made a lament for its people. Enki took counsel with himself. An, Enlil, Enki and Ninḫursaĝa made all the gods of heaven and earth take an oath by invoking An and Enlil. In those days Zi-ud-sura the king, the gudug priest, ……. He fashioned ……. The humble, committed, reverent ……. Day by day, standing constantly at ……. Something that was not a dream appeared, conversation ……, …… taking an oath by invoking heaven and earth. In the Ki-ur, the gods …… a wall. Zi-ud-sura, standing at its side, heard: "Side-wall standing at my left side, ……. Side-wall, I will speak words to you; take heed of my words, pay attention to my instructions. A flood will sweep over the …… in all the ……. A decision that the seed of mankind is to be destroyed has been made. The verdict, the word of the divine assembly, cannot be revoked. The order announced by An and Enlil cannot be overturned. Their kingship, their term has been cut off; their heart should be rested about this. Now ……. What ……."
      approx. 38 lines missing
      Segment D

      1-11. All the windstorms and gales arose together, and the flood swept over the ……. After the flood had swept over the land, and waves and windstorms had rocked the huge boat for seven days and seven nights, Utu the sun god came out, illuminating heaven and earth. Zi-ud-sura could drill an opening in the huge boat and the hero Utu entered the huge boat with his rays. Zi-ud-sura the king prostrated himself before Utu. The king sacrificed oxen and offered innumerable sheep.

      12-17.
      six lines fragmentary
      approx. 33 lines missing

      Segment E

      1-2. "They have made you swear by heaven and earth, ……. An and Enlil have made you swear by heaven and earth, ……."

      3-11. More and more animals disembarked onto the earth. Zi-ud-sura the king prostrated himself before An and Enlil. An and Enlil treated Zi-ud-sura kindly ……, they granted him life like a god, they brought down to him eternal life. At that time, because of preserving the animals and the seed of mankind, they settled Zi-ud-sura the king in an overseas country, in the land Dilmun, where the sun rises.

      12. "You ……."
      approx. 39 lines missing

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      Just so I'm getting this straight - all of your evidence comes from 400 clay tablets that 'higher powers' have stolen away and hidden from the world for the last 200 years?

      So you have no evidence to present other than your word that they are fact?

      "That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence" - Christopher Hitchens

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      Quote Originally Posted by Alextanium View Post
      Just so I'm getting this straight - all of your evidence comes from 400 clay tablets that 'higher powers' have stolen away and hidden from the world for the last 200 years?

      So you have no evidence to present other than your word that they are fact?

      "That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence" - Christopher Hitchens
      Er...no? The tablets are available for anyone to read. You can find them almost anywhere online if you look for them. One such site that comes to mind is www.enkispeaks.com And you can order "The Lost Book of Enki" off amazon.com if you'd like. Though you can find the material in that book in .pdf's free online.
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      Umm... A shitload of text from some random website...
      It's the bible/Quran/Book of Mormon all over again.

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      Quote Originally Posted by RedfishBluefish View Post
      Umm... A shitload of text from some random website...
      It's the bible/Quran/Book of Mormon all over again.
      You're ignorant. The text didn't originate on that website. It merely serves as one of hundreds of thousands of hosting stations for the tablets translated by Sumerian expert Dr. Zacharias Sitchin. I couldn't have been more clear about that...
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      /sigh I'll have to read this some more. But really. Come on...

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