Didn't the Mormons use that one already? Seems just as fishy now as it did when John Smith (or whomever) used it.Quote:
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Didn't the Mormons use that one already? Seems just as fishy now as it did when John Smith (or whomever) used it.Quote:
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Wow, great read. I'm always interested in "lost books" and "new found facts"
I'm pretty sure I'm going to get flamed for saying that
Only by the losers.Quote:
I'm pretty sure I'm going to get flamed for saying that
Yeah, the Gold-plated bible that he found buried in his backyard that would kill anyone else that looked upon it. Then an angel took it away from him back to Heaven.Quote:
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http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...t=58804&page=3Quote:
Originally Posted by Alextanium
That guy was such a charlatan omgz for rulz. He was all like hey farmer guy, magic stones told me there is treasure on your farm, pay me to dig and you can have the treasure when we dig it up. /time passes.
Farmer: Where is the treasure you've been digging for a while.
Joseph: Uh...magic demon critters are trying to keep me from getting it for you.
Farmer: Here is some money for your time, just get the hell out of here.
Joseph: (Hmmm, now who else can I sucker into paying me for BS?)
Kinda odd how on the tablet depictions, the vehicles were everything that we have in the present time..... hmm.... When exactly were these "official" discoveries found?
Would be funny if there were aliens on earth thousands of years ago driving BMW convertibles with spinners on them.
They had hummers and stuff to! I saw an alien flying through the sky back in my previous life in 3255B.C. in a stealth bomber.
The same applies to you too Justin.Quote:
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Excuse me? If you can't counter my argument of living a past life, don't speak.Quote:
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My patience with you is running quite thin.Quote:
Originally Posted by nitsuJ
Why's that? Because I lived a past life and saw aliens?Quote:
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Exactly.Quote:
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Ah, well.. my patience is running thin with you trying to tell us blond hair and blue eyes came from an alien race. Not to mention the pictures you provided us saying what most people say the "watchers" looked like didn't have blond hair or blue eyes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff777
You're an idiot. Both of your accusations are incorrect. Go back and read my original post. As far as I'm concerned...you're nothing more than a reincarnated Seismosaur.Quote:
Originally Posted by nitsuJ
Hmm, interesting stuff Jeff.
I knew pretty much the whole story from a couple of books and other things I've picked up in the last year or so. It made a lot of sense about why Hitler believed the Aryans were the pure race blah blah blah...
Also, to some of the skeptics in this thread, all this history about Hitler and the occult is true. I mean there was even a program in the History channel that was about this exact same thing. It's not exactly a big secret. These leaders actually did believe this stuff, and many still do to this day.
So even if you think it's bullshit, shouldn't you at least be concerned that many of the people running this planet do believe this?
The only thing that was news to me was the thing about the "lesser gods." That's very interesting. My dad actually came up with that theory...he once said, "I think those greys are their dogs."
Also...from the translation I read, the first human that they created did look very African. But I suppose that they wanted humans to look more like themselves...and likewise, it's human nature to want to be as much like your creators as possible.
Any other comments I'll have to PM you sometime, since I'd rather not get too horribly flamed here. Again, thanks for compiling it all here, it makes it easy to see the big picture. :D
Always a pleasure to have your presence grace the same thread(s) I post in. :)Quote:
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Oh, both of my accusations are incorrect? Ok, let's examine my accusations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff777
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Ok, how was that alien/human race the "perfect race" if they're not the origins of blond hair and blue eyes? Did you just post a bunch of unneeded information talking about aliens and humans coming together and having sex that in fact had nothing to do with Aryans or Hitler, or the "perfect race" of blond hair and blue eyes?
As for my "incorrect accusation" about the pictures you provided us saying what most people say the "watchers" looked like didn't have blond hair or blue eyes. Let's look for the blue eyes and blond hair in the pictures below.
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http://www.netscientia.com/images/ovni6.jpgQuote:
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http://www.philipcoppens.com/watch_grey.jpgQuote:
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Oops! I don't see any blond hair or blue eyes.
Dear lord help this boy. The Sumerians referred to THOSE beings as the "lesser gods". Naiya, who understood this addressed it in her post a few posts up. This was not hard to comprehend. You are the only one who seems to have trouble understanding that. And NOWHERE did I state that the beings had blonde hair and blue eyes. I said ZIUSUDRA was born with eyes that were of the skies and skin like wool etc. If you would like for me to create a "slow edition" for you then why don't you just ask? I will recreate the entire original post in a "See Spot Run" format, how's that Jujitsu?Quote:
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http://www.teesnthings.com/ProductIm...-tee-shirt.jpg
I love this shirt.
I don't see how a creation myth written (supposedly) on clay tablets - and translated badly - is any more believable than the rest of them.
Thanks for researching / posting all that. All of what you said makes sense to me, don't pay too much attention to those that blindly argue things; you can get lost in it.
I agree with this.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedfishBluefish
Thank you for taking the time to sift through the information laid out within this thread. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Schmaven
To a certain extent I agree with you. I have said this numerous times within this thread...Quote:
Originally Posted by RedfishBluefish
"What I posted is not necessarily my belief."
Fascinating read, thanks for posting!
Yes, I know they're "lesser gods," please point out where I said they weren't. Yeah, you said Ziusurda had blue eyes and blond hair then. So what's the point of the offspring of some retarded looking alien and a human being being the "perfect race" if they weren't all blond haired and blue eyed? It seems to me talking about the "lesser gods" and all this alien stuff was a waste of time about the history of the Aryan bloodline.Quote:
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BTW, perhaps you can't read that well, but my name isn't "Jujitsu."
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So we're all descendants of Ziusudra and his children, therefore we're all Aryans?Quote:
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AWESOME.
Also, find the source where it says the Sumerians thought this is what the aliens rode around in.
http://www.dudeman.net/siriusly/ufo/art/hieroplanes.jpg
Gilgamesh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff777
The story of Gilgamesh and the Sumerian floods are totally different.Quote:
In the tale of Gilgamesh in the Standard Version (Middle Babylonian), it is Tablet 11 that recounts the legend of the Flood, from the perspective of the Flood hero, Uta-napishti. Uta-napishti lived far to the east, beyond the edge of the world. Uta-napishti narrated to the hero Gilgamesh of how he gained immortality from the gods.
Gilgamesh came to Uta-napishti hoping to gain immortality after the death of his friend, Enkidu, because the unusually fearless hero now feared death.
It was at Shuruppak, on the bank of Euphrates that the gods met to discuss the destruction of mankind, by sending a great deluge. In the meeting was Anu (An), his counsellor Ellil (Enlil), his chamberlain Ninurta and Ennugi his sheriff. Also there was Ea (Enki), the god of wisdom. They all swore oaths in regarding to the Deluge.
But Ea instructed a man from Shuruppak to demolished his house and build a boat. The boat should be equal in all dimensions, and the boat shall have a roof for shelter. The man should abandon his wealth, and seek to survive the coming destruction. He was to take with him "all living things' seed".
This man was the son of Ubar-Tutu. He obeyed all of his god's instructions, except that he feared what the crowd and elders of his city may say about the construction of this large boat. Ea instructed Uta-napishti to say to the elders that he no longer wish to live on the ground of Ellil, so he decided to leave and live in the Ocean Below with his master Ea. Ea would send rain to carry his boat to the Ocean Below.
Uta-napishti goes on to relate how the boat was constructed, covering an area of an acre and ten rods in height at the sides. The boat would have six decks, each deck divided into nine compartments.
By the time he finished, he gathered his possessions and loaded them on aboard – gold and silver, and all the animals, from the fields and from the wild. He had also stored food for his people and the animals. Uta-napishti then gathered his kinsmen and people that were skilled in different crafts, and boarded the boat. The he had his shipwright, Puzur-Enlil, to close the hatch.
Not long afterward, the god Adad brought storm, unlike any other. Other gods help to cause gales to blow, flood the rivers, and water to overflow the weirs. Before the population realise the dangers and destructions they were facing, it was too late. Countless people drowned, as water covered the land.
Even the gods, who took part in the destruction of mankind, were frightened and fled to the heaven of Anu. The great goddess Belet-ili, the mother of the gods, wept over the people she helped to create. The people in the water were turned into clay. Other greater gods (Anunnaki) wept too.
For six days and seven nights, gales continued to blow and rain continued to fall from the sky. The Deluge ended on the seven days.
The boat ran aground on the mountain of Nimush. The boat lay to rest on Nimush for seven days, before Uta-napishti let out a dove. The bird returned to Uta-napishti's boat after a day of flying, because it could find no land to rest.
The next day, he let out a swallow, but it also returned, when it found no rest. The following day, he released another bird, a raven, but this time, it didn't return, after finding food.
Realising that his confinement on the boat would come to an end, he got off the boat, to make an offering to the gods. Uta-napishti offer sacrifice and burned incense on the mountain top.
The sweet smell of incense – reed, cedar and myrtle – brought the gods to Nimush, like flies around food. The mother goddess Belet-ili was among those who came to the incense, telling the other gods that they should remember these days. She was however angry with Ellil, saying that he brought the Deluge and destroyed mankind that she helped to create – he alone should not come to the sacrifice at Nimush.
But Ellil did come to Nimush; he was furious to see a large boat on the peak of the mountain. This means that there are still human survivors from the Deluge.
Ellil demanded to know who was responsible for man's survival. Ninurta replied, who else but Ea would save any human.
When Ellil confronted Ea, the god of wisdom responded that he (Ellil) was wrong to destroy mankind without counsel (this is the same accusation that Belet-ili had against Ellil). Ea also said to the angry god that it was not he who save this human (Uta-napishti), but rather that Uta-napishti saw this would happen in a vision and took action to save himself and his family.
Ellil took Uta-napishti back to the boat, and make him and his wife kneeled before him. Instead of punishing them, he bestowed immortality upon Uta-napishti and his wife, so that they would become gods like them.
Ellil would then spirit the newly immortal couple to the edge of the world, far to the east.
Uta-napishti would not receive any mortal company until the arrival of the hero and king, Gilgamesh of Uruk, some thousand of years later.
See Gilgamesh for the rest of his tale.