Thread: McCain Passes Obama In Official Gallup Poll

I wonder if McCain wins if America will be considered to be full of racists?

I wonder if Obama wins if America will be considered to be full of male chauvinist pigs?

Originally Posted by The Enterer

Busted!: Gallup, CBS, USA.Today, etc. Tinkers With Party ID Again

Very interesting, that cheers me up a bit, I was beginning to think obama might loose. Why would they do that? Maybe to get the battle heated up more? That seems like something the media would do, I hear recent elections have been very close calls.

Originally Posted by Jeff777

That would have destroyed both of their credibility. Hilary was attacking the hell out of him for awhile only to turn around and play nice with him and talk about how great of a guy he is as his VP? Ugh.

You don't remember what Joe Biden said about Obama?

The fact that he's the VP choice is enough for me to look at the situation with Hillary and say "Bygones". Hillary would have been a great choice simply because she's got ideas we need (desperately, now) and the means to make it happen. Then the Obama campaign wouldn't have given the McCain campaign the fuel they needed to crank up the old Republican standard we're witnessing in the news. I think it would have made it harder for McCain to do as well as he's doing now.

Barack Obama is going to lose the election because he is Opie Taylor playing presidential candidate in his tree house fort with his cuckoo bird kid friends. He is a joke. He will never be president of the United States. And by the way, he is good buddies with an admitted terrorist and has an America hater for a spiritual mentor. That is a formula for epic fail by itself. I told you months ago that the polls then didn't mean anything and that Barack is not going to win the election. Get the Barack Obama presidency out of your heads. It is not reality.

Oh, and hello to all of you again.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Barack Obama is going to lose the election because he is Opie Taylor playing presidential candidate in his tree house fort with his cuckoo bird kid friends. He is a joke. He will never be president of the United States. And by the way, he is good buddies with an admitted terrorist and has an America hater for a spiritual mentor. That is a formula for epic fail by itself. I told you months ago that the polls then didn't mean anything and that Barack is not going to win the election. Get the Barack Obama presidency out of your heads. It is not reality.

Oh, and hello to all of you again.

Everyone has a friend that's not good for them, so what? His pastor also doesn't have any standing in his life, I don't think. Those are irrelevant issues to me. McCain is old and if he dies Palin will take over. Palin, the woman that doesn't even know what a vice president does and fires people that doesn't do what she says, will take over and drive our country deeper into the ground than it already is.

Would you rather see this in office? Read the entire thing.

By the way, welcome back!

Yay! UM is back. I was wondering where you'd gone, it was weird having no one to argue with about politics.

And yeah, being friends with people who made mistakes doesn't make you bad. McCain is friends with George W. Bush, who is best known for war crimes and shoddy business practices.

Had to post this:

McCain Gets BarackRoll'd

Originally Posted by Scatterbrain

Had to post this:

McCain Gets BarackRoll'd

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Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Barack Obama is going to lose the election because he is Opie Taylor playing presidential candidate in his tree house fort with his cuckoo bird kid friends. He is a joke. He will never be president of the United States. And by the way, he is good buddies with an admitted terrorist and has an America hater for a spiritual mentor. That is a formula for epic fail by itself. I told you months ago that the polls then didn't mean anything and that Barack is not going to win the election. Get the Barack Obama presidency out of your heads. It is not reality.

Oh, and hello to all of you again.

What admitted terrorist? The Wright scandel was a Obama, and Clinton issue.. its hasn't been brought up in ages. If you want to talk about a joke, lets talk about the lack of John McCain's education (No college or political education), his old age (Do you see John McCain running for 8 years? He would be 80..), he cheated on his wife, his Vice President looks like a kinky libarian who is an extreme right (do you want a course in creationlism next year?), and last but not least, the fact that he is on Bush's cock 90% of the time.

In election can really go both ways.. If McCain gets fucked in the debate, he is over.. McCain has the support of alot of fundamentalists, and sadly every one is falling for the hot kinky libarian girl. But when the elections come to a close the two people on spot will be McCain, and Obama. Obama is personally more appealing, Even though Palin has a bigger fan base, the focus will be on them two at the end of the elections. That is the reason I think Obama has a slight lead in my predictions.. By the way are you a Republican?

I can't wait for the debates. Obama is 10x smarter than McCain, he's going to make him look like an idiot.

Originally Posted by Elis D.

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That's what I get for not giving in to the senseless side.

(...) the hot kinky libarian girl.

Wait, what? She's over forty years old.


Anyway, McCain is the sort of guy I would have sent to some sort of re-education centre. Forming opinions and decisions ignoring scientific knowledge is not a good thing.

Originally Posted by Scatterbrain

Forming opinions and decisions ignoring scientific knowledge is not a good thing.

Most republicans do that. I doubt there are very many republicans that will say that the climate crisis is a man-made problem.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Barack Obama is going to lose the election because he is Opie Taylor playing presidential candidate in his tree house fort with his cuckoo bird kid friends. He is a joke. He will never be president of the United States. And by the way, he is good buddies with an admitted terrorist and has an America hater for a spiritual mentor. That is a formula for epic fail by itself. I told you months ago that the polls then didn't mean anything and that Barack is not going to win the election. Get the Barack Obama presidency out of your heads. It is not reality.

Oh, and hello to all of you again.

I've honestly got the opposite opinion. I really don't see how mccain can win with all the publicity obama has gotten. Both these guys are a joke in my opinion, it really just comes down to which way you look at it. And with how bad bush fucked up, and the peoples desire for change I really think mccain doesn't have a chance.

By the way ninja, climate crisis is a man made problem, meaning that man made it up. We are in no way in a climate crisis, thats just scare tactics. Then environment is changing, and we should do what we can to take care of it and keep it clean, but there is no crisis. If you look at the actual data yourself you start to realize that. Do some research of your own and read State of Fear by Michael Crichton.

The scientific community says otherwise

Originally Posted by ninja9578

The scientific community says otherwise

The scientific community is, in this instance, most likely cashing in on the guilt of their patrons, ie. governments and wealthy university donors. There probably is a climate change going on, but to say it was caused by humans is jumping to conclusions. I've seen the CO2 graph, but that could be plausibly explained with reverse causation, such as increased global temperatures driving forest fires and thereby releasing more CO2. Hell, even the IPCC concluded that climate change is a self-reinforcing phenomenon. So that means it could have started itself. It's not like such a change is unprecedented in Earth's history.

Now, I'm not against science, and usually I trust scientists. Indeed, the scientific method guarantees that science will move toward the truth unless all the scientists in a particular field all unanimously decide to abandon the truth. And normally this would be inconceivable, but not this time. There may be sufficient political and social motives to get all these scientists to agree on a lie. It's worth considering, especially when you think about how today's political leaders are now talking about introducing another tax to 'combat climate change'. Hmm...

Originally Posted by ninja9578

Most republicans do that. I doubt there are very many republicans that will say that the climate crisis is a man-made problem.

Heh, would never have guessed that.

So would you say Stan Smith from American Dad is a close depiction of a republican?

Originally Posted by Scatterbrain

So would you say Stan Smith from American Dad is a close depiction of a republican?

No, he learns a lesson at the end of every episode. Republicans repeat the same mistakes over and over

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Barack Obama is going to lose the election because he is Opie Taylor playing presidential candidate in his tree house fort with his cuckoo bird kid friends. He is a joke. He will never be president of the United States.

There's a logical and legitimate reason if I ever heard one.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

And by the way, he is good buddies with an admitted terrorist and has an America hater for a spiritual mentor.

These are false statements. Me thinks you watch the McCain ads all day long. Obama was a public (not private) friend of Tony...would he honestly be his friend had he known what Tony was up to considering Barack would soon be running for President? I don't think so. And as for his spiritual mentor being an American hater...this is also a bastardized version of the truth. Wrights church was comprised of mostly whites and political activists...not Islamic terrorists. In a press conference, Barack verbally severed his ties to Wright anyway so leave that argument in the past with Hilary's camp. Your very much biased in this election and it shows so I understand why you would believe such things.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

I told you months ago that the polls then didn't mean anything and that Barack is not going to win the election.

95% of the polls express the ideas, thoughts and opinions of America's middle class. The class that when figures are dissected...Barack's tax cuts help more than twice as much than McCain's tax cuts. Now come again?

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Get the Barack Obama presidency out of your heads. It is not reality.

It may not be what YOU want, but it certainly is a very real and likely possibility. McCain has admitted that he doesn't know how to use a computer or send an email and even has said he has more to learn about the economy...and you really expect him to lead this Information Age country? In addition to that...he chose a woman who was completely ignorant about the Bush Doctrine. McCain, Palin 2008 FTW!! <- Hardly.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Oh, and hello to all of you again.

Welcome back.

So I hear that that a McCain ad was criticizingly Obama for his immigration policies, yet McCain voted the same on the issue. It makes me angry, that is true propaganda right there.

Though I somehow think that either way it goes, it isn't going to really effect me, but I don't have much idea how it will or won't, since I've never been exposed to the hardships of living on my own under any two presidents.

Originally Posted by LucidDreamGod

So I hear that that a McCain ad was criticizingly Obama for his immigration policies, yet McCain voted the same on the issue. It makes me angry, that is true propaganda right there.

Though I somehow think that either way it goes, it isn't going to really effect me, but I don't have much idea how it will or won't, since I've never been exposed to the hardships of living on my own under any two presidents.

Just like how McCain was criticizing Obama for his remark about Lipstick on a pig (which is a political expression not targeted to Sarah Palin specifically) and the irony of that is that a year ago he (McCain) said the EXACT same thing about Hilary Clinton.

Originally Posted by ninja9578

No, he learns a lesson at the end of every episode. Republicans repeat the same mistakes over and over

Zing like a muthaf**ka.

Okay, way too much to respond to directly. Also, I moved to a new house in early August, and I have deliberately not had the internet there because I am such an addict and need at least a few months of rehab. I am cheating by even being here right now. I can't have the point by point debates I used to have while I am in this rehab period, but I will say a few things to hopefully address everybody. Thanks to all who welcomed me back. It's good to see you again. Now let's fight another round.

First of all, so what if McCain isn't good with a computer? It takes a few hours for the average American dumbass to learn how to use one very effectively. Not an issue.

No, I am not a Republican, and I don't watch McCain ads all day. Read what I have said in the Religion forum to get an idea of how much I am not a Republican. I just know that Barack Obama is nowhere near ready to be president of the United States. I don't think McCain is the greatest candidate ever either, but he has a ton of experience in putting policy into practice, actually did shit in the Senate, and has proven his loyalty to the United States through his history as a POW alone. Make sure you learn that story if you don't know it already. It is no Obama story. McCain also has a lot of logical stances, along with a few illogical ones, and has proven that he acts on what he stands for. Obama is just a talker and has only shown his loyalty to his quest for power and his ability to vote "present". If somebody would like to tell me all about the major ass Obama has kicked in the Senate, please be the first.

Obama is going to be a bumbling dipshit in the debates because he sucks when he doesn't have a teleprompter. His only real skill is speaking, and he can't even do that right without a teleprompter.

Reverend Wright is not the terrorist I was talking about, but Wright is an America hater on top of being Barack Obama's spiritual mentor. The terrorist I was talking about was William Ayers, who admitted to bombing the Pentagon, the Capitol building, and NYC police headquarters. He is not just some acquaintance Obama chatted with a few times at a high school hang out. He was Obama's partner in public speaking and co-chair in an organization when Obama knew Ayers' history as a terrorist. That is big time. Big time! It cannot be compared to working with a politician who has debatable policies. What Ayers did was flat out mindless terrorism with no legitimacy whatsoever. Would you vote for Obama if he co-chaired an organization with Bin Laden while knowing Bin Laden's history?

None of us know with certainty whether humans are causing global warming or not, and we all know how dishonest the environmentalist extremists going off about it are. Just look at the history of the back and forth between global warming and global cooling crazes and at all of the crazes that just went away without any kind of resolution. The hysterical environmentalism shit lost its credibility a very long time ago.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

First of all, so what if McCain isn't good with a computer? It takes a few hours for the average American dumbass to learn how to use one very effectively. Not an issue.

Someone who doesn't understand basic email in the age of digital terrorism? There's a good thing.

I just know that Barack Obama is nowhere near ready to be president of the United States.

They said the same thing about Bill Clinton and the US hasn't had prosperity like we did then since the new deal.

Obama is going to be a bumbling dipshit in the debates because he sucks when he doesn't have a teleprompter. His only real skill is speaking, and he can't even do that right without a teleprompter.

Have you ever seem him talk without a teleprompter, like on a talk show or something? He even went on Bill O'reilly, the biggest right wing propaganda man since carl rove. He made O'reilly look like an idiot.

What Ayers did was flat out mindless terrorism with no legitimacy whatsoever. Would you vote for Obama if he co-chaired an organization with Bin Laden while knowing Bin Laden's history?

This again. Barrack Obama was 5 years old when he bombed the pentagon. The current president has business ties to the Bin Laden family. And McCain is good friends with George Bush. Which is worse, a reformed terrorist who now does community service, or a president who attacked a country for no reason, actively tried to get discrimination amended to the constitution, and supported the PATRIOT Act?

None of us know with certainty whether humans are causing global warming or not, and we all know how dishonest the environmentalist extremists going off about it are. Just look at the history of the back and forth between global warming and global cooling crazes and at all of the crazes that just went away without any kind of resolution. The hysterical environmentalism shit lost its credibility a very long time ago.

No one can know for sure, but numbers show that CO2 is higher than it's ever been in the past 600 thousand years, which spanned multiple natural cooling and warming cycles.