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      Homeschooling...

      So at least a couple of people on this forum have said they are/were home schooled, so I got curious about the topic. Anyone can respond, btw, doesn't have to be these particular people.

      What do you think are the pros and cons of homeschooling, and would you ever recommend this to other kids/parents?

      I really don't know anything about this, and have only met a handful of people who were home schooled. They all seemed very shy, but extremely nice, and they possibly learned more than the rest of us did in public schools. That was my impression, anyway!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant View Post
      So at least a couple of people on this forum have said they are/were home schooled, so I got curious about the topic. Anyone can respond, btw, doesn't have to be these particular people.

      What do you think are the pros and cons of homeschooling, and would you ever recommend this to other kids/parents?

      I really don't know anything about this, and have only met a handful of people who were home schooled. They all seemed very shy, but extremely nice, and they possibly learned more than the rest of us did in public schools. That was my impression, anyway!
      Pros? Enclosed environment, freedom of move wherever, time is also a freedom, as well as dress, so many things that you don't have to worry about. It's wonderful.
      Cons, are of course being secluded, less social learning. Of course I got over that with a homeschooling co-op band, loads of other homeschoolers meeting in one place, effectively defeating half the purpose of homeschooling itself. Though this is only for music and the social aspect, I love it. I wouldn't have it any other way.
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      True, their education is better. But they lack the social skills of us, which is an important skill to have in the real world. My knowledge of calculus doesn't get used on a day to day basis, my ability to talk to people and charm pretty girls like Mes Tarrant comes in useful every day.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ninja9578 View Post
      True, their education is better. But they lack the social skills of us, which is an important skill to have in the real world. My knowledge of calculus doesn't get used on a day to day basis, my ability to talk to people and charm pretty girls like Mes Tarrant comes in useful every day.
      Yes, but homeschooling can teach you a lot of things about how to be a better person, because you're given a lot of time to be introspective and figure out who you are. Not that you don't get that in public school, but at least you won't be more easily driven by public sway and think silly thoughts like "sex is everything". *cough*

      Also, I am home schooled. :]

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      Who sez u charm me?

      Just kidding.

      Yeah I hear ya. But then again, I think many of those people gain social skills once they go to college or get a job and whatnot. So then in the end you might get someone who is shy but maybe in an endearing way.

      I don't know though, really.

      Edit: Oh wow I don't know how I missed DD's post above me, whoops!
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      Home schooling does have a tendency to make people introverted, but it's only one small part of the equation. The parents who do the right thing by ensuring the child has plenty of interests where they can meet other kids will ensure that it doesn't have too much of a negative impact on their social skills. I've known some children of these sort of parents and most of them have excellent social skills.

      If I had kids, there is no way in hell I would let them into the festering pig sty of a school system for them to become self-indulgent base animals like the majority of young people are becoming.

      There's also the issue of quality of education. If I had kids, I would get a '40s curriculum book and base the course upon that. When I was in school (not too long ago), English was the study of anything but (usually being a de facto current affairs/political indoctrination session); science had less content than a single episode of Why is it So? and music involved such in-depth matters of theory as analysing the form of a Wang Chung song. Art involved splashing a few strokes on a canvas and telling them it had profound meaning from the depths of your soul. If I had relied upon their summary of 20th century history, I would be under the impression that the entire century consisted of silly ladies in petticoats enslaved to their husbands and shackled by convention, then a bit of a war sort of thing, another bit of war type of gear started by the WORST MAN WHO EVER LIVED, then Martin Luther king and the moon landing and oh yes, that was about when we got rid of all silly conventions and traditions and all that nonsense and the real world started. (About the same time that the world started being in colour instead of black and white.) I've mostly educated myself and after I quit school at 17 I learnt more from just reading books.

      I had a look through some of the primary school ‘readers’ that my parents had to read when they were at school…They had all these little poems and short stories and essays. What do primary school kids read nowadays? Absolute rubbish like The Day my Bum went Psycho or substance-free indoctrination like Marcella the Disabled Transsexual Squirrel Finds that Hanukkah is not so Bad After all.

      But then, when my parents were at school, the teachers were paid to make them learn, whether they like it or not. Now they just offer the opportunity of learning a few pithy bits of information and it’s up to the students to decide whether or not they can be bothered or whether they’d prefer to wag class and smoke pot on the oval instead (this being a prerequisite for most arts courses at university). My parents were taught French, Latin, classic literature and virtually every important event in history. They had it drummed into them so they could recite it all backwards whilst pedaling across a tightrope on a unicycle, playing the national anthem on an accordion with their knees and juggling eight different citrus fruits in each hand (which were the currency at the time).

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      You quit school at 17? What did you do afterward to continue your education?

      I think you're a good example of the benefits of self-study, at least by looking at the way you write. That is to say, you actually seem intelligent, heh.

      Edit: Ohh man I missed no-name's post as well. That's a good idea that you guys got together with other home schooled kids.

      So how exactly does homeschooling work... Does a teacher come over at a certain hour, or do you study on your own, or with your parents, or what?

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      I had a friend who was home schooled. His teacher came for a few hours every day, he had a shorter day than us public schools kids. But there is no track team, prom, keggars, senior trip, box socials...

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      Yeah, I was tired of turning up to school for 5 hours a day to be taught nothing but crap. The only reason for continuing would have been to go to university, which I certainly didn't want to do - partly for the same reason! So I just read books on whatever subjects I was interested in. I tried to get complete sets of book-courses when I could find them, preferably from before the 60s, since almost everything was better made back then.

      Since Project Gutenberg and Google Books, it has become easy to search for a subject then download some very well written old books to my iPod and either listen to them using text-to-speech or read them on the screen. Brilliant!

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      I was homeschooled, and enjoyed every minute of it. My mother was my teacher, and admittedly she didn't do a very good job after about the seventh grade, but don't tell her I said so. I had a lot of freedom, was allowed to do my work whenever I wanted. Technically (in Georgia at least) I was supposed to work 4.5 hours a day, but I usually got my work done in 2-3, and then did the next days work. I skipped right over kindergarten, did two grades in one year more than once, and then fell behind a bit in eighth grade due to a lack of self-motivation, since by then I was mostly teaching myself from the curriculum.

      We went to a few home-schooling meets, but frankly, we were poor, and live pretty far out in the country, so that didn't last very long. I never got much out of them anyway, just a bunch of slightly older girls to hang out with, and a few guys that tried to bully me. So yes, I am lacking in social skills, and I'm shy, and that is mostly due to being home-schooled. But I wouldn't change it for the world. I have friends who are teachers, and from everything I have ever heard about the public school system in this nation, I want to stay as far away from that hellhole as I can. The cliques, the peer pressure, the in-groups and outcasts, the conformity . . . Count me out.

      My children will be home-schooled. Hopefully I can help them to be more socially active than I was (am), but public education is not an option. That is a social environment I would not want my children raised a part of, and the education is laughable.

      Home-schooling teaches you one very important skill, first and foremost: the ability to teach yourself. I was reading on a twelfth grade level at 10 years old, could do multiplication problems in my head faster than a calculator at the same (an ability which I have since, regrettably, lost), and have forgotten more useless random facts than a lot of people ever know, because that is what interested me. As a kid, I was given the freedom to teach myself what I wanted to learn. I value that. Today I am a photographer and web developer, and I taught myself everything I know.

      I may not be James Bond in a social scene, but that is something that I can teach myself through experience.

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      I have taught home school, and I think it is okay as long as the kid is interacting with lots of other kids on a very regular basis. Otherwise, you end up with somebody who goes through life feeling and therefore acting like a space alien. Social skills cannot be learned in the way history and math can. They have to be developed over a very long period of time, preferably during the developmental years.
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      Oh, how I envy you home schooled people. I don't really know what homeschooling is like, but I really loathe the current school system that I'm in right now. With all the grades and GPA, how everyone thinks that this number means you're "smart" for some reason. My calculus teacher seems to get inflamed over everything and is a total let down. When asked a question she condescendingly answers it and seems to yell at us... But of course that's just one teacher. Why do schools crush all the joy in learning?
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      Quote Originally Posted by TimeStopper View Post
      My calculus teacher seems to get inflamed over everything and is a total let down. When asked a question she condescendingly answers it and seems to yell at us.
      PLEASE send anonymous letters to your principal and school board about that bitch. Do it for me. I despise people who try to intimidate people into not asking questions that have to be asked. I hate your calculus teacher.
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      Okay okay, having come from a public school with a good education and good experience overall, I feel obligated to point out that it is possible for good things to come out of public education.

      Do home schooled kids go to college, on average?

      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      PLEASE send anonymous letters to your principal and school board about that bitch. Do it for me. I despise people who try to intimidate people into not asking questions that have to be asked. I hate your calculus teacher.
      I agree.

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      I am home schooled.

      Would I recommend it? Not at all. I don't have much of a choice though, as I am sick.


      Pros: Lots of freedom, go to bed whenever and get up whenever. Freedom. No specific time to do things. Fast, because if you are ahead you don't have to wait for others. Excellent for lucid dreamers.

      Cons: Lacks a social aspect which is imperative in life. With freedom, comes great responsibility. You have to make sure to do your homework and not procrastinate and go on the computer *cough* right now *cough* Boring, very very boring.

      Overall schooling is better in life, but if you want to be a gagillionaire, homeschooling is the way to go.


      MoS does make a great point.
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      A 'get well soon' cactus... rofl

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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      PLEASE send anonymous letters to your principal and school board about that bitch. Do it for me. I despise people who try to intimidate people into not asking questions that have to be asked. I hate your calculus teacher.
      Well I don't think she's trying to intimidate anyone, it's just that when she answers a question she makes you feel stupid.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ninja9578 View Post
      True, their education is better. But they lack the social skills of us, which is an important skill to have in the real world. My knowledge of calculus doesn't get used on a day to day basis, my ability to talk to people and charm pretty girls like Mes Tarrant comes in useful every day.
      Then why are you so effing creepy about it?

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      I would LOVE to be able to homeschool my 4 kids. Mostly, I want to for religious reasons. I think about the story of Lot who moved into a district of Sodom and Gomorah. The people did not worship God as they should have and were very carnal. Lot moved there with a LOT of people, but only he and 2 daughters came out of it alive... and his daughters were so warped by local thinking that they thought it was okay to get their dad drunk and have sex with him so he'd have more kids.
      The school system is like Sodom and Gomorah IMO. My kids get bullied and made fun of for adhering to certain religious principles. There are overwhelming pressures from peers to act badly. The schools are overcrowded and many class rooms are out of control.

      I HATED school so fiercely that I dropped out in the 11th grade. I couldn't handle being bullied by the students or a couple teachers any more. I had a learning disorder that wasn't then recognized (dyscalculia) and was rushed through classes and grades even though I didn't even fully comprehend subtraction.
      I did get my GED several years later though and I BARELY passed the math but scored high (almost 100&#37 in English and the likes.

      I tried homeschooling my kids about 10 years ago. It lasted about 6 months. I simply had too many kids of different ages and needs (one of them special needs) and it was much too overwhelming and chaotic.
      My kids, last year, begged me to try homeschooling again. But it's not in their best interest, educationally. Especially when it comes to math.

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      Yeah large classes is a problem. But it's much worse in other countries. Like here, in Korea, all classes are about 40 kids each. There are 1200 kids in my school, and I am the ONLY foreign teacher, for ALL of them. And I hear schools in China can have something like 60 kids in a class, where they're all packed like sardines.

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      I can only comment about my country's public school system and, of course, it has flaws like anything else has. However, I think homeschooling isn't possible here, we don't even have a word for it lol. The main thing people have against our school system is that it's trying to teach the kids too many things. And the social aspect, it's VERY different. For example, there aren't such divisions to cool kids, outcasts, nerds etc. Even the most introverted people aren't shunned.
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      Quote Originally Posted by paragon View Post
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      Quote Originally Posted by ninja9578 View Post
      True, [home schooled] education is better. But they lack the social skills of us, which is an important skill to have in the real world.
      That's not necessarily so. In 3rd grade I had moved to a new town and was incapable of making friends and not for lack of trying. Things were good before I moved, but for some reason it seemed like everyone my age had better things to do. On top of that, I had a vindictive teacher who made my life hell. I'd say, somewhat along the lines of what Mes said, that I didn't truly develop the ability to be sociable until I was in college. I found ways to enjoy high school and I did have some great classes (We The People changed my life, thank you Mr. Johnson) and some great opportunities, but with the way things have progressed, I highly doubt the high school I went to will be the same one my (hypothetical) kids will attend.

      If I have kids some day, I will probably homeschool them rather than have them grow up in the land of the attention-deficit, overcrowded, and politically correct. And I want my kids to be able to do more than just regurgitate information.

      We'll see.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ninja9578 View Post
      True, their education is better. But they lack the social skills of us, which is an important skill to have in the real world. My knowledge of calculus doesn't get used on a day to day basis, my ability to talk to people and charm pretty girls like Mes Tarrant comes in useful every day.

      You dont go to school to learn how to get laid, though.

      homeschoolers have my highest respect, and in fact if i ever have kids someday i believe that i will homeschool them, or at least send them to private school
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