The cure and prevention for cancer and many other health issues is here. Why can't we use it? Plants can't be patented, there is no money to be made.
The cure and prevention for cancer and many other health issues is here. Why can't we use it? Plants can't be patented, there is no money to be made.
Actually I'm pretty sure people would get plenty of money from farming and selling cancer cure plants.Quote:
The cure and prevention for cancer and many other health issues is here. Why can't we use it? Plants can't be patented, there is no money to be made.
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There's money in long term treatments, not short term cures.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xei
Yeah, word to that xei. People seem to think that the corruption and greediness of man let cancer cures and things like that (such as things that produce massive amounts of cheap energy, food, etc.) be concealed and suppressed. If anything, though, this selfishness would make people want to advertise their findings. Imagine being the person who found the cure to cancer. Do you think that he would go and sell his silence to some evil drug corporation? Personally, I'd imagine he would rather (or at least I would) get infinite and eternal fame and respect for doing this, not to mention you'd obviously get money for it as well. It's just so silly, all of that. The same thing applies to everything. For example, say someone found out how to make water powered, zero emissions cars. As much money as you would get from oil companies for your silence, you would get exponentially more for creating a company that makes cars that run off water (I'd imagine virtually EVERYONE would buy such a car). Lets stop with the nonsense.
Im kind of burned out on watching vids cause I just watched that Obama deception vid...so I just wanted to know before I watch this...are these plants PROVEN to at least recduce cancer by actually tests?
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Originally Posted by wasup
Woah you're back? DV just got a little bit better. :D
I 100% believe there are natural cures for anything. You must find the source of the problem and get rid of the root, and all the other branches of sickness will dissapear. You'd be surprised at how much the FTC and FDA "Don't Know About."
They know, they are just selfish greedy bastards. Tell me if you can give someone a plant for a cure for 20-30$ Or prescribe them pills, and or surgery for thousands of dollars? That's how our government is, it's bullshit.
Well, plant and herbs can by law not be patented, so medicine corporations will not produce and manufacture it as buyable medicine.
I have read about this problem before, there are obvious cures in some of these plants/herbs, but they are not used as medicine (puplicly), simply because there is no profit on it.
I haven't seen the video, so can't comment on that one.
In theory, wouldn't the cancer cells adapt to any "cure", and become a new strain?
Indeed, you often hear this kind of logic being used by free energy conspirators, and it just doesn't hold any water at all. Why don't those oppressors simply buy the technology instead and become billionaires?Quote:
Yeah, word to that xei. People seem to think that the corruption and greediness of man let cancer cures and things like that (such as things that produce massive amounts of cheap energy, food, etc.) be concealed and suppressed. If anything, though, this selfishness would make people want to advertise their findings. Imagine being the person who found the cure to cancer. Do you think that he would go and sell his silence to some evil drug corporation? Personally, I'd imagine he would rather (or at least I would) get infinite and eternal fame and respect for doing this, not to mention you'd obviously get money for it as well. It's just so silly, all of that. The same thing applies to everything. For example, say someone found out how to make water powered, zero emissions cars. As much money as you would get from oil companies for your silence, you would get exponentially more for creating a company that makes cars that run off water (I'd imagine virtually EVERYONE would buy such a car). Lets stop with the nonsense.
Considering chemo is funded by the state in the UK... no.Quote:
There's money in long term treatments, not short term cures.
It's quite simple: if I knew of a cancer cure plant, I would immediately set out to cultivate and stockpile it on a mass scale, prove its worth, sell it, and become a worldwide hero and millionaire overnight. This applies to employees of drugs companies too.
lawl... no. By what mechanism would that work? Cancer isn't caused by pathogens (viruses, bacteria, etcetera - things which are capable of natural selection).Quote:
In theory, wouldn't the cancer cells adapt to any "cure", and become a new strain?
THC has been know to kill cancer since 1974. Yes, many studies have been done.Quote:
Originally Posted by tkdyo
here is one article of hundreds
http://health.usnews.com/articles/he...in-cancer.html
Obviously you do not know how much money is made off of patents.. my mom has to pay hundreds of dollars per pack of migraine medicine, because of patents...Quote:
Originally Posted by Xei
Do you know how much money is spent on cancer treatment?
Obviously you did not watch the documentary and know nothing about the pharmacological industry...Quote:
Originally Posted by wasup
That guy thought it was the most amazing discovery when his skin cancer went away, but no one (like you) believed him.
Talk like yours KILLS PEOPLE. Why don't YOU stop with the nonsense?! All this ignorance is going to make me explode.
Yeah, that would work......Quote:
Originally Posted by Xei
IF IT WAS LEGAL!
Thats what this guy did(except his gives it away because he is not a greedy looser) but he got arrested..... Jesus christ people, read some studies, watch the documentary, educate yourselves instead of spouting this BULL.
Your answer(Xie) did not make any sense, it does not matter who is funding it. Pharmaceutical companies get big money no matter what.Quote:
Originally Posted by XeiConsidering chemo is funded by the state in the UK... no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff777
There is no money in prevention and cheap cures.
Chill out. You're unlikely to get any more thoughtful answers if you continue to berate people who contribute.
My bad, I just get seriously angry because of the sensitivity of this topic. (and also because people don't know my side of the argument before saying their response to it)Quote:
Originally Posted by DuB
I'm not a conspiracy theorist but...I doubt you're that naive Xei. I'd bet my house that the newspapers would print your obituary faster than news of your cure (should you discover one). Do you NOT know that big companies are malicious and don't give a damn about you? Why do you think Ford wanted to pay off (and even threatened) the guy who invented the windshield wiper if he went public stating the idea was HIS and not Ford's. Pharmaceutical companies are no different. Wall Street corruption is no longer a suspicion. Big business will shit on you. They'd pay you off or silence you permanently. Cancer will be the world's leading cause of death by 2010. Do you honestly think the government thinks that's a BAD thing? No. The world is overpopulated already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xei
So uh... who is it that's found the cure for heart disease? :l
Honestly, I am simply highly dubious of the logic that causes pharmecutical companies to hunt down and kill people who have found a cure to cancer in some massive conspiracy instead of... I don't know... isolating the compound, researching it, and then mass producing it?
And then failing to delete a bunch of lowfi YouTube clips. Hmm.
I don't know, you tell me smart man. Who indeed?Quote:
Originally Posted by Xei
How hard is it for you to understand that there is NO money in a cure? Especially not an affordable one. We have the technology to invent non-running pantyhose and advil that does more than "temporary relief" for headaches. You see death and killings on the news 24/7 followed by commercials from companies selling you cheap artery clogging fast food yet the organic food products in health food stores are vastly overpriced. Perhaps people like you require a corrupt corporate fat cat to walk up to them and tell them that he doesn't give a shit about their well being, but that's not how I operate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xei
Okay, firstly...I haven't watch the videos, nor do I really care to watch some John Doe testify his story as to how his cancer was cured. I've overspent my time passively listening to other John and Jane Doe's tell me how their respective God(s) cured this and that for them to where I don't see a difference in who says what...nor do I really anymore. The point I'm trying to get across is this...you will not find a cure. Imagine being the man who discovers a combatant for the world's top killer. And you just THINK...every corporation whose produced a "cancer aid" or "cancer treatment program" is just going to be okay with that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Xei
Clearly, you know little about psychology or biology.Quote:
Originally Posted by plg6067
First of all, spontaneous remission.
Secondly, placebo effect and its effect on stress, overall feelings, depression etc.
For the first one, natural and unexplained recovery happens very often and when coupled with the intake of some sort of alternative medicine leads people (understandably) to attribute their natural recovery to said medicine where it isn't warranted. As much you'd (and I would too, honestly) like to believe that his cancer went away/stopped progressing as a result of some herb or whatever, there was no scientific evidence to corroborate such a result.
Secondly, the placebo effect contributes to many factors of this. I can't say it is a particularly large one, but it certainly plays a part. Not only does it directly cause us to think the medicine is working, creating a self-fulfilling prophecy of sorts, but it reduces our stress and depression which is often connected with increased cancer and cancer-related deaths.
I don't deny not watching the videos (as I know exactly what they are going to say regardless), but tell me why I have no knowledge about the "pharmacological industry" (by the way I think you mean pharmaceutical industry)?
Anyways, I'd have to agree with the legitimate threat of being targeted as a result of some magical cure by some big company, though I still find it rather doubtful. It is not as if these companies have some sort of magic sauron-like eye on the entire world; they find out about technological innovations the same way everyone else does, by press coverage. Of course, if someone advertises their claim on the internet in a very formal way or does so in local TV news or newspapers, perhaps the threat is greater. But however, if the person goes straight to some huge news corporation, I'd imagine it's rather unlikely they'd be targeted (as it would be very suspicious). I mean, sure, I suppose it's easy to be targeted for something like this. But then again, its easy not to be: go to the top, tell everyone in a short time period, make sure to get quick funding and get protection and everything. It doesn't exactly take a genius to figure these things out, and I would think that people who discover the cure for cancer or solve the world's energy crisis would be able to understand how to solve this problem anyways.
I can't say I am sure of a conspiracy theory involving medical and pharmacological industry, but it's the only logical thing to assume - I mean, at least in the city I live, 8 in 10 child bearings are made through cesarean operation.... Why, if natural birth is better both on the mother and on the child's side? Because cesarean operations are more expensive - so all doctors go all the way to recommend it, simply because it means more money for them. There is a vast number of doctors who do only deliver babies if it's through a cesarean operation.
No matter how far I've gone and how much I've seen, humans beings never fail to impress me with their corruption and selfishness.
I couldn't agree with you guys more that there exist many, very selfish people. However, this would only confirm my point that many would be unwilling to sell their silence/discovery. Infinite and eternal fame, respect, recognition, and power is to many as large if not a much larger motivator than superficial wealth. This would only be compounded by the great jealousy that one would know they would feel when someone else is credited for their own discovery. Assuming here that the whole "assassinated for business-threatening knowledge" situation didn't exist, let me make it clear that the VAST majority of the population would want to publicize their findings either out of the goodness of their heart OR their own selfish, ego-boosting they would get out of having billions of people appreciate their discovery.
Exactly.
You're the one who said that cancer would be the world's biggest killer by 2010. :lQuote:
I don't know, you tell me smart man. Who indeed?
Which I can only assume was a statistic you simply pulled out of the aether (to put it politely); heart diseases kills way more than double the amount that cancers do, and then infectious diseases, largely due to the state of developing countries, kill more also; cancer is third.
Look, it's quite simple: you make the pills. You sell the pills. Hence, you get money.Quote:
How hard is it for you to understand that there is NO money in a cure? Especially not an affordable one. We have the technology to invent non-running pantyhose and advil that does more than "temporary relief" for headaches. You see death and killings on the news 24/7 followed by commercials from companies selling you cheap artery clogging fast food yet the organic food products in health food stores are vastly overpriced. Perhaps people like you require a corrupt corporate fat cat to walk up to them and tell them that he doesn't give a shit about their well being, but that's not how I operate.
You also become extremely famous and spend the rest of your life jetting around the world giving various well-paid talks.
Regardless, the cure would be suppressed depending on who finds it.
Cancer is a million dollar industry, that has only grown over the years from the poisons and toxins in our food and air..
A natural cure would net some profit, but if it was a real cure their wouldn't be multiple treatments, thousands of dollars per person for their doctor/hospital visits.. If cancer could be cured easily, the profits companies make would go down..
Cancer isn't a bacteria.Quote:
Originally Posted by Demon Parasite