Thread: stop dressing your children

Boy=Penis
Girl=Vagina.

Well the same argument could be made, inverted.
Stop making the color pink synonymous with female, and vice versa.

It's a stereotype, like all things.

Uh yea if my kid has a dick he's a boy, regardless of his sexual preferences. On the other hand, he can wear whatever the hell he wants, and so could a little girl. In fact I'd discourage my little girl from dressing in pink and thinking she was a princess right out of a disney movie. I agree, get rid of the stupid color stereotypes.

Stop wearing clothes all together.

Are you talking about transsexuals?

By the time know, they can dress themselves.

Originally Posted by guitarboy

Boy=Penis
Girl=Vagina.

Originally Posted by Shift

Uh yea if my kid has a dick he's a boy, regardless of his sexual preferences. On the other hand, he can wear whatever the hell he wants, and so could a little girl. In fact I'd discourage my little girl from dressing in pink and thinking she was a princess right out of a disney movie. I agree, get rid of the stupid color stereotypes.

Gender and Sex are entirely different, FYI. The OP used the term correctly.

Though the thread itself is rather lacking.

Originally Posted by guitarboy

Stop wearing clothes all together.

I agree with this statement.

Originally Posted by ExoByte

Gender and Sex are entirely different, FYI. The OP used the term correctly.

Though the thread itself is rather lacking.



I agree with this statement.

No one wants to see your skinny ass walking around naked.

But everyone want's to see my dick.

I really REALLY hope this is satire. When babies are young enough to wear the all pink or all blue stuff they dont even know what the clothes are for. What business is it of yours what color someone wants to dress their baby in? When they get old enough to make color choices for themselves and are still forced to wear blue or pink then fine, get angry then, until then if it bothers you THAT much you have a little growing up to do yourself

Originally Posted by guitarboy

Boy=Penis
Girl=Vagina.

right, but penis ≠ boy and vagina ≠ girl.

Originally Posted by tkdyo

I really REALLY hope this is satire. When babies are young enough to wear the all pink or all blue stuff they dont even know what the clothes are for. What business is it of yours what color someone wants to dress their baby in? When they get old enough to make color choices for themselves and are still forced to wear blue or pink then fine, get angry then, until then if it bothers you THAT much you have a little growing up to do yourself

you're right, and you'd THINK it's not hurting anything. but it is perpetuating the stereotype. THAT is hurting, in the end.

tell me do you think it is ok to force a little boy to wear a dress, when he clearly does not want to?

if they are old enough that they are aware of what they find cool to wear then yeah its a problem to force them to wear a dress. On the flip side there are plenty of males when they are older who do choose to wear pink shirts. No one says anything to them, so I belive its more just for when the baby is very young and people know what gender it is without having to look under the daiper, completely arbitrary

On another note, in the 20's, it was the other way around.

Anyway, not worth my time internet-arguing with you. Adieu.

What I find ridiculous are all the grown women wearing pink day in and day out. Typically it's the same women with fake white-blond hair and painted-on suntans. It's like they're not just insecure about their looks, but need to make sure everyone is 100% aware at all times that they have a vagina.

^ what if they just really like pink?

Every single child shall from this day and forward wear the exact same suit. It is grey and has no design at all, other than "grey".

Awesome!


EDIT:
Parent dresses little daughter in pink.
7 years later
"I don't like pink"
"K, what color do you like?"
"______"
"K, let's buy some _____ clothes next time we go shopping."
"K"

Seriously stfu. It's a color. It isn't going to scar the child and give them traumatic memories.

k obviously did not read my previous post

you're right, and you'd THINK it's not hurting anything. but it is perpetuating the stereotype. THAT is hurting, in the end.

maybe I just haven't explained well enough. let me try again.

I'll put it this way...

if people dropped the pink and blue, dresses and "boy clothes" (with all kinds of sports motifs etc), and dressed all of their children neutral, it would have to mean that they have all learned/accepted that things (gender, at least) aren't always what they appear. it would mean that people (in cultures where it is an issue) have accepted transsexuality as a part of reality. you don't think that would be a good thing?

Originally Posted by TimeStopper

Are you talking about transsexuals?

...yes

If you can tell me why I should allow someone to decide they "aren't" the gender they were born as, I will allow it. In lack of such an explanation, it's unnecessary, unnatural and should be prohibited.

well, do you know what a hermaphrodite is? here, I'll hook you up with a link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermaphrodite

it is the same thing as intersex (here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex).

if a human being can be born with ambiguous genitalia, is it inconceivable to you that a person could be born in a female body with male brain chemistry (or vice versa), or in some such physiological condition that something tells them they are not the gender they appear to be on the outside? transsexuals are basically people born intersexed, just at the far end of the spectrum, so to speak. an extreme case of intersex, where the body happens to look completely male/female, but there is something in the brain that says otherwise.

silly boy :)

I'm so glad that haters like you are losing power over people born with this unfortunate medical condition, and it really matters not whether or not YOU "allow" it.

I'm not hating, I'm just wondering why I should accept this. And when I say "allow" I mean accept. And that is a very good point that I hadn't thought of. So, to be honest, you've knocked me into neutral territory.

... which is why it's so refreshing to see people in other countries (specifically Korea and Japan) wearing whatever color just happens to fall out of the sky. Pink, blue, green polka dots, whatever.

The only stereotype that I have seen is that little boys don't wear pink. Little girls however feel free to wear any color under the sun. Why can't boys wear pink? homophobia is still prevelent in our society

as for kids being dressed: if they are being dressed by their parents, then obviously they are too young to dress themselves. theres no crime in dressing a two year old ina silly foo-foo dress, what ever color under the sun it is. chances are, its one of the very times in her life she will enjoy wearing a cute dress

I think its disgusting to dress little kids AS IF THEY WERE ADULTS. ghetto, brand names, tight fitting, revealing instead of foo-foo dresses. a five year old wearing make up? that's just disgusting. disgusting!

kids have not developed their own individuality, its there, but its still developing. so I don't agree with your argument. kids usually need some sort of identity to cling onto. an identity of which they first take from their parents. which is why its wrong to dress them as adults.

children need to feel like children, to express themselves as children. what better way to make a child know that they are a child, then to wear clothes that adults don't wear?

younger kids will conform in school more than any other school age. belonging, identity. its only natural that kids look up to adults to tell them whats girly, whats boyish. what the different age groups should look like. because they don't know.

but they want to know, so that they can express themself. and while our predifined notions of girly and boyish are wrong, boys and girls are different. and want to express their girl or boy-hood. or even, their age! some kids like being kids and want to look like a cute kid!

most little girls...will be insulted if you confused them for a boy.........Im pretty sure boys feel the same way too.

as for tomboys or others with more complex identities, they still use the norm that we give them to rebel against. I mean the goth rebels anything colorful, to show how EMO they are. Little boyish girls, rebel against pink!

It's not that bad with clothes, theres plenty of colors for kids to wear. the real sickening overdose of pink comes in toys. of which you cant change so easily like clothes. its much tougher when a girl wants to play with dolls but can't stand all the damn pink

the truth is, if you force a child to wear something they don't agree with, they fuss! they'll cry! sure you can say its torture to put the damn ugly dress on them, making them the unpopular kid at school - but nothing is lost. In all honesty, its not so bad having a mold to squeeze kids into.

If it pisses them off, how much faster has their sense of identity developed?

Transexuality and homosexuality is against my beliefs. While I don't condemn those who are, I wont encourage it in my own children. So that's a separate argument in and of itself.

Color stereotyping is similar to toy stereotyping, for the most part. It's not something I embrace. My daughters can play sports or with toy cars and my sons can play with dolls. My 14 year old had a doll until he was about 12 years old then he asked me to put the doll in storage. My 13 year old daughter is bi-curios and dresses in boy clothes and while I encourage her to remain sexually abstinent and accept the Bible's standards I don't care how she dresses.

As for dressing baby's in certain colors, parents are proud of their children. They want to dress them up and it's hard to tell if a baby is a boy or girl unless it's obvious by their clothes. The stereotype exists and they use it to their benefit, but I don't think it's a bad thing when the child is that young. My oldest daughter was mostly bald, so I put a decorative head band on her when we were out in public.

When the kids get older, they should have a choice in the clothes they wear (to a point).

oook, so the point of this thread was to stop color stereotypes because of transsexuals? This I think is quite over reacting, as I said the colors are there for the simple reason that when a child is still a baby it is indeed hard to tell if it is a boy or a girl hence why they are dressed so that we recognize. When a child is that young they have no way of even knowing what being a transsexual is let alone be offended by wearing a certain color. Once they are older they are allowed to chose colors they like anyway so by that time the point seems moot.