Thread: will this tea help part of my dream process?experts only plz

why dont you try it and find out?

I don't even know what it is. Some people have managed to have LD's every night without aid from tea, drugs or anything else you can think of. *shrugs*

Hey, you two are a novice and a guru. Experts only!

try relax and sleep pills by jameson naturals or "nighty night" tea by..... whoever

no, chamomille will not help your lucidiy. if anything it is a relaxant. Teas and herbs stuff don't help, what helps are persistence and repetition. following the same method over and over.

if you want an "expert response" from the description of the user on this board, it might not be accurate. I've just registered on this particular board, but I've been doing lucid dreaming, obe for over 12 years and can do them at will and have thousands of times.

pick a method of learning lucid dream or obe, WILD or whatever, do it every nite over and over again, and you will learn it and be able to repeat it over and over again. The time and effort doing it is absolutely worth it. How long does it take? could be a week to several months for your first experience. Then after than could be years to have it under control.

Don't look outside of yourself for substances or things to gain lucidity, it is all inside of you. it is just like learning to ride a bike, take alot of practise.

Originally posted by mopey
Hey, you two are a novice and a guru. Experts only!

That's just a reflection of your post count, it doesn't have anything to do with your knowledge of Lucid Dreams.

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Hey, you two are a novice and a guru. Experts only!

That's just a reflection of your post count, it doesn't have anything to do with your knowledge of Lucid Dreams.[/b]

x2. There's gonna be tonnes of experts on here who haven't ever taken chamomile tea and know nothing about it. There's gonna be a load of non experts who have and do know about it. Post count doesn't alter anything apart from the size of your e-penis. Trust me, I'm an expert.

Camomille and mint tea can be helpful to relax, but they are helpful especially to remember dreams. At least to me, they are.

If you want to induce a lucid dream by external methods, do the following:

Note: Be sure to do this on a night you can sleep at least 9 hours.

1) Buy a vitamin B-6 suppliment.
2) Set your alarm to go off five hours after the time you are going to bed.
3) Set the B-6 and a glass of water within reach of your bed.
4) When your alarm goes off, take the B-6 and about half of the water.
5) Lay back down.

You will immediately fall back asleep if you have not turned on any lights or stirred much. Try to focus on a bridge object (see my other post on this topic), or use the MILD or WILD techniques.

Word of Warning: Excess amounts of B-6 have been found to have neurotoxicity. Do not do this often. The goal is to have lucid dreams naturally, by intending them, and not with the aid of a crutch, such as B-6.

SubNote: Bananas are high in B vitamins. This is why people say eating a banana before bed can cause "nightmares." The reality of it is they are just aware of their dreams more. This frightens people who are not prepared for lucidity, since they are not expecting it.

I take the B6 before going to sleep - it hasn't worked ALL times. I still have to try LucidOne's approach (WBTB + B6)... but it should prove interesting...

As far as the tea I can only go by my personal advice and say NO! this is not fact but it has not helped me.

Originally posted by LucidOne
Word of Warning: Excess amounts of B-6 have been found to have neurotoxicity. Do not do this often. The goal is to have lucid dreams naturally, by intending them, and not with the aid of a crutch, such as B-6.

Hey Lucid one. What is neurotoxicity
And a vitamin absorbs that fast? Cool. What about liquid vitamins - faster?

Originally posted by Howetzer
As far as the tea I can only go by my personal advice and say NO! this is not fact but it has not helped me.

In my case if I drink coffee I get zero dream recall. On the other hand with the teas I mentioned I get great recall. Best is if one tries and checks the results they get! Things work differently for different people.

The past couple of nights i've taken melatonin w/ B6 about 1.5 hrs before going to bed, no lucid dreams, but my dreams seemed to last longer. I guess it more vividness / better recall. I could have easily done a RT and found out i was dreaming, but i can never remember to do them.

I would suggest the following for a melatonin / B-6 combination:

1) Set aside 30 mins before bed to unwind with no input. No TV, no music, no books, nothing.. Just the present and yourself. Take the melatonin at the beginning of your 30 mins.

2) By the end of the 30 mins you should be good and sleepy. Climb into bed and assume a dreaming posture. See my other post on dreaming postures for suggestions if needed.

3) Set your alarm for four to five hours after you are going to bed. When the alarm goes off, reset it to the time you are going to wake up. You shouldn't need to turn a light on as your eyes will be well adjusted to the dark.

4) Take the B-6 and lay back down. You can try to use a technique to stay conscious as you fall back asleep, such as WILD or the dream bridge, but you will need a monumental effort. With the melatonin in full effect, you will be back in dreamland before you know it (literally).

The B-6's effects should kick in just as you are having your longest REM periods; during the last third of your sleep cycle.

As a side note, try not to drink any caffiene, eat anything with a lot of sugar, or drink any soda after noon the day before your attempt.

Follow this with some degree of accuracy and you will drasticly increase your chances of having a lucid dream. The length of your period of lucidity will vary based on your personal power.

It is unknown to me whether having lucid dreams in this fassion can assist one in having an unaided lucid dream. Perhaps just having experienced the state can be enough to help you get back to the same state again, I do not know. I have heard, though, that B-6 and Melatonin should not be taken regularly, as they can possibly have detrimental affects on the body. I wouldn't do this combination more than twice a week, if that. The rest of the nights just try to get as refreshing a nights sleep as you can.

If you can have one lucid dream a week. That is a great start.

~LucidOne

Link to Topic with Dreaming Postures: http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/viewtopic....p?p=46589#46589
Link to Topic on the Bridge Method: http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/viewtopic....p?p=46546#46546


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Hey Lucid one. What is neurotoxicity
And a vitamin absorbs that fast? Cool. What about liquid vitamins - faster?[/b]

Sorry Howetzer.. I missed these questions before.

The following is a link to a study on the Neurotoxicty of B-6. I would skip ahead to the Recommendations section first. Note: This file is in PDF format and requires Adobe Acrobat to read it.

http://europa.eu.int/comm/food/fs/sc/scf/out80c_en.pdf

As for the absorbtion rate, I do not know what the specific times of absorbtion are for the B vitamins. I do know that there is a major affect when I take one before bed.

~LucidOne