Mancon's In Depth WILD Guide

**Mancon** · 02-10-2012 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by Sydney

I tried your technique last night Mancon. I love how simple it is! I couldn't figure out when 10 minutes had been up, so I just rolled over when it felt time. I should't even be thinking too hard about that!
Anyways, after the third time I rolled over, my mind wandered and I lost consciousness. Should I stay completely aware throughout the attempt? (Like even if it takes me 1 hour or so to get to SP?)
Even if I lower my awareness down just a little bit because I think I'm trying to hard, my mind wanders, I move without thinking, and fall asleep. Any advice?

Hi!

The trick is balancing awareness. You want to be aware enough so you stay conscious until you get into the dream, but not too aware where you will stay up. Sounds like you just need some practice with staying aware. Don't worry! Just keep it up

WuChi, Yes it is possible, but I really don't recommend it. It would take a long time to do. If you dont have time for the 'stupid' WBTB, I recommend you try another technique, like MILD.

**Sydney** · 02-10-2012 01:27 AM

Okay! Yeah I get what you're saying. I got just a little bit farther last night. At one point, about the second time to roll over, I felt a very faint tingliness throughout my body. I wondered whether I should roll over or not when it was time. I did anyways. Was this the right thing to do?

**DON** · 02-13-2012 05:36 PM

Dug my account out of the grave to ask this lol. I'm a little confused about waking up before or right after your REM. What exactly does that mean? Almost always I wake up about 3-4 hours after sleeping, but I wake up FROM a dream, not BEFORE a dream. If I wake up after a dream does that mean I've ruined my chances for the rest of the night? Thats mainly what I'm confused about. If I wake up in the middle of the night after 3-4 hours it's always after a dream. So do I need to wake up earlier? After 2 hours maybe?

**Ctharlhie** · 02-13-2012 05:57 PM

Awakening from a dream is good, it means you should be going right back into REM when you return to sleep.

**HoodedPianist** · 02-14-2012 02:27 AM

Great guide, except, there is one problem, what you're referring to as HH is NOT hypnotic hallucinations, it's hypnagognic hallucinations. Not trying to sound like a Grammar Nazi, just think you should change that to avoid confusion.

**Ctharlhie** · 02-14-2012 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by HoodedPianist

Great guide, except, there is one problem, what you're referring to as HH is NOT hypnotic hallucinations, it's hypnagognic hallucinations. Not trying to sound like a Grammar Nazi, just think you should change that to avoid confusion.

That would an issue of semantics, not grammar

**LucidRaider** · 04-08-2012 03:10 PM

Are you allowed to move your eyes as they are closed?, like... Am I allowed to still move my eyes around in my head when they are closed? or do I have to keep them still, because that's really hard. ._.

**Mancon** · 04-09-2012 03:27 AM

Originally Posted by LucidRaider

Are you allowed to move your eyes as they are closed?, like... Am I allowed to still move my eyes around in my head when they are closed? or do I have to keep them still, because that's really hard. ._.

It's better to keep your eyes still, but if you are more comfortable moving them..go ahead. I don't think it should affect you getting into a dream too much. Good luck!

**OwenLucid** · 05-31-2012 03:14 AM

Originally Posted by yuppie11975

Excellent guide Mancon

I think I'd be more comftorbale just lying on my back? Because if I switch to my favourite postition (On my side, and hand under my pillow)
It'd be to comftorable , and I'd slip into sleep. Or is it fine to go back and forth between those two, and just fall asleep in one of them?

Ive been wondering this exact same thing! Should we lie still on our back or in our favourite position???
P.S Thats my favourite sleeping position as well XP

**Mancon** · 05-31-2012 03:16 AM

Originally Posted by OwenLucid

Ive been wondering this exact same thing! Should we lie still on our back or in our favourite position???
P.S Thats my favourite sleeping position as well XP

Just whatever position you like! I don't think it affects your chances of WILDing very much...as long as you're comfortable.

**queenrosie** · 07-26-2012 05:11 PM

Do you guys think that beginners, and when I say beginners I mean like serious amateurs to this, should try to WILD as one of their first techniques?

**Tucane** · 07-26-2012 09:51 PM

Even though many claim that WILD is not a beginner's technique, I'd recommend new LD:ers to try it out. Some people are naturals at WILD, you might be one of them

. Even if you're not, a WILD-attempt never is a lost experience.

That being said, DILD's tend to come easier for most people. If you have time and feel motivated, practice both of them

.

Best of luck

, Tucane