STDs and anal sex

**Idolfan** · 09-16-2009 04:46 PM

I have read on a fair number of health sites that as long as both partners have no sexually transmitted infections, anal sex is (and I quote) 100% safe.

Excuse me?

I wouldn't complain, I'm dirty enough to get an extreme amount of comfort from understanding this 'fact'... but surely the colon is a rather dirty place? Why do STDs matter? Shouldn't you be able to get ordinary infections?

It obviously does not mention 100% safe to STDs, it just says 100% safe. If it means ONLY to STDs, but you can get other infections, then I will personally cause a row to the NHS over this misinformity.

So, is it really 100% safe?

**Marvo** · 09-16-2009 05:32 PM

The colon is surprisingly clean, as far as I know.

**Robot_Butler** · 09-16-2009 05:50 PM

I know that gay guys get bladder infections all the time from having anal sex. Not that big of a risk in the big picture, but definitely uncomfortable.

Obviously, if neither partner has an STD, it is impossible to transmit one.

Most straight couples who have anal sex regularly use a condom for that portion of the act. You don't want bacteria getting in...other places.

**grasshoppa** · 09-16-2009 08:35 PM

I'd still use a condom....

**Bearsy** · 09-17-2009 02:09 AM

Ya even if you both have a clean bill of health use a condom... if you don't wrap your tool before you poke some stool you're just dirty.

**ninja9578** · 09-17-2009 02:12 AM

Might get more and better responses here: www.sexualforums.com. I've had anal sex with both men and women and I've never had any problems. A douche helps the cleanliness.

**Lëzen** · 09-17-2009 03:25 AM

^...You DO know that human fecal matter is among the most bacteria-laden type of feces out there, right? There's a reason we don't use our own waste as fertilizer for crop production. The fact that your own personal sexcapades haven't led you to infection, I describe in just one word: Fluke.

...And douche is not a fool-proof way to remove all fecal matter from the rectal area. Not by a long shot.

EDIT:

Originally Posted by grasshoppa

Is it me...Or am I the only one who doesn't want to stick his dick in an asshole?

Really, now...I thought I was the only one.

Straight as I am, I wouldn't even stick it in a woman's bum, even with a condom. For me, the anus has always been a point of exit, not entry.

**grasshoppa** · 09-17-2009 04:13 AM

Is it me...Or am I the only one who doesn't want to stick his dick in an asshole?

**Jeff777** · 09-17-2009 04:41 AM

Originally Posted by ninja9578

Might get more and better responses here: www.sexualforums.com. I've had anal sex with both men and women and I've never had any problems. A douche helps the cleanliness.

Ninja I had no idea...

**Tyler** · 09-17-2009 05:05 AM

Originally Posted by grasshoppa

Is it me...Or am I the only one who doesn't want to stick his dick in an asshole?

Trust me, you aren't alone.

**Idolfan** · 09-17-2009 07:06 PM

So what you're all saying is that is ISN'T 100% safe?

If the health boards are lying this is SERIOUS BUSINESS.

I am going to be so fucking angry if I find out.

**ClouD** · 09-17-2009 07:15 PM

Sticking your penis into an area which regularly houses bacteria laden poop?

Of course it's safe!

**Specialis Sapientia** · 09-17-2009 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by Idolfan

So what you're all saying is that is ISN'T 100% safe?

If the health boards are lying this is SERIOUS BUSINESS.

I am going to be so fucking angry if I find out.

It's better to find about before you do such thing..

**Robot_Butler** · 09-17-2009 07:23 PM

It isn't going to kill you. It just puts you at risk of getting a UTI. You can avoid that risk completely if you use a condom.

To put it in perspective, many women get UTIs from vaginal sex. You don't see them refusing to have sex. You just deal with it if it happens.

**Idolfan** · 09-17-2009 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by Specialis Sapientia

It's better to find about before you do such thing..

You know what I mean.

Look guys, I need some STATISTICS. I appreciate all your responses but has it been empirically shown that infections that are NOT STDs can be spread by anal sex. I mean sure, plenty of you say it's obvious, but I can't just send an e-mail to a health organisation and say that. Unfortunately, all of the sites about 'barebacking' deal with HIV only and I can't find anything that relates to NON STDs.

I am looking myself obviously, but if someone could direct me to a site that actually pays attention to NON STD infections during anal sex then I would be most pleased, because I haven't found one. And if it's 'so obvious' as you all keep saying, I would expect to.

Originally Posted by Robot_Butler

It isn't going to kill you. It just puts you at risk of getting a UTI. You can avoid that risk completely if you use a condom.

To put it in perspective, many women get UTIs from vaginal sex. You don't see them refusing to have sex. You just deal with it if it happens.

Oh, so you CAN get an infection???

Well would it kill the sites to say that!

Like I said, I need some DATA. I'm going to raise hell if I find out that these Babylonian 'health' sites are DECIEVING the weak minded.

And just in case anyone makes some egotically deluded assumptions, I am NOT saying that anal sex is 100% safe. I am challenging the claim, that's all.

**Robot_Butler** · 09-17-2009 07:34 PM

If you consider infection to be a risk, then no type of sex is safe.

**Idolfan** · 09-17-2009 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by Robot_Butler

If you consider infection to be a risk, then no type of sex is safe.

I would rather die than get a UTI. Does that mean I should never have sex?

Sorry, being cocky. I am just pissed off that this whole world is so fucking imperfect.

**Robot_Butler** · 09-17-2009 07:42 PM

I've never had one, so I don't know how bad they are. I've heard they suck pretty bad. If you're that paranoid, you should just vacuum pack your dick in rubbing alcohol and never touch it again

Just keep clean and eat right. Your immune system takes care of this kind of stuff if you keep yourself healthy.

**Idolfan** · 09-17-2009 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by Robot_Butler

I've never had one, so I don't know how bad they are. I've heard they suck pretty bad. If you're that paranoid, you should just vacuum pack your dick in rubbing alcohol and never touch it again

Just keep clean and eat right. Your immune system takes care of this kind of stuff if you keep yourself healthy.

Right, I'll focus on one thing then. I take it that UTIs are the most common, if not the only infection other than STIs you can get from anal sex.

So my question to anybody, and please answer with a quoted source:

Is it possible to catch a UTI from anal sex that CANNOT BE TESTED FOR?

If so, then the health organisations are LYING and something needs to be done about it. I aint sitting back for shit.

**Marvo** · 09-17-2009 11:35 PM

This is how a UTI works:

Bacteria crawls through the tubes -> multiplies in urine -> infection.

Is there bacteria in the collon? Yes.

There's your answer.

**Hercuflea** · 09-18-2009 01:02 AM

I thought stool was naturally sterile.

**Jeff777** · 09-18-2009 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by Hercuflea

I thought stool was naturally sterile.

A large percentage of our stool contains bacteria, the other small percentage, water. How is that sterile?

**Specialis Sapientia** · 09-18-2009 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by Hercuflea

I thought stool was naturally sterile.

Lol no, but urine is sterile.

**Jeff777** · 09-18-2009 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by Specialis Sapientia

Lol no, but urine is sterile.

To an extent.

**Specialis Sapientia** · 09-18-2009 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by Jeff777

To an extent.

It is completely sterile unless one has kidney or urinary tract infection or any other disease related.

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