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      Losing weight

      So, i got to a point where i felt i could not go on anymore, like LITERALLY could not keep going the way i was going or i would not last much longer. I have had some help at work about this and some stuff to eat and do etc, but i want some more answers.

      So far i have been walking for 1 week for an hour almost each day. I am wondering what should i start eating? for example today for breakfast i ate a salad with tuna on it, an english muffin with some cheese in it, and a water. A few hours later i ate a granola bar called fiber & omega and a few cups of water to get by untill lunch where i had this healthy kind of soup, water, and some english muffins without the cheese dipped in the soup. Then later i walked home...an hour. I live far away from my work as you can see.

      What else can i start eating?

      A guy at my work wants to sell me his crossbow home gym for $300, i also wanna build muscle aswell as losing weight.

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      I would recommend this website called "google" it is MUCH more helpful than a forum about lucid dreaming.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mike02 View Post
      I would recommend this website called "google" it is MUCH more helpful than a forum about lucid dreaming.


      Ok admins, delete the Fitness/Health sub forum. No point keeping it around when there is google.

      Real replies please.
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      Any type of aerobic exercise will help greatly. So swimming, biking, running/jogging would be good activities to take up.

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      If you read and do what I say next, people will think you're crazy. Also you might die, especially if you have a history of high cholesterol or high blood pressure. You will surely die if you're a diabetic. Also don't bother reading if you are a jew or crazy vegan. When in doubt, consult a doctor.

      Personally, I run. I also avoid large amounts of carbohydrates as they tend to cause an insulin spike that slows me down. That was probably the biggest single discovery I found that let me lose like 30-40lbs without too much pain.

      I first started off losing weight by dropping out anything addicting in my life. Mostly food and caffeine. Went about 3-4 days without eating (just lots of water) and lost about 10lbs just in retained water and junk. I noticed I felt alot better and could wake up earlier, so I reintroduced food, albeit I kept my carbohydrates low. My theory is, and after having blood work done during this time, when I ate high sugar foods my body would react and produce a ton of insulin and I'd want to crash and goto sleep due to the massive blood sugar drop that followed. After a month of eating like this blood work showed *very* low triglyceride, my blood pressure was very low, and my blood sugar levels were perfectly normal.

      I recommend bacon, lots of bacon. Don't worry too much about the salt because you'll sweat it out running. Note, I ate bacon almost every day while doing this and my blood work showed numbers dropped for cholesterol and friends. Eggs are pretty good too. And hot sauce, gotta rock hot sauce cause its got pretty much zero calories and there are some studies out there that shows it gives the metabolism a good kick.

      Um, as for fasting. I don't recommend it as a weight loss method, you can't build muscle on it. I do however recommend it as a way to break yourself off from a toxic lifestyle and start something new. There is great benefit to even doing it for a day or two. I can't in good conscience recommend a week or more though unless it's for religious or spiritual purposes. If you use it to lose weight, you probably have an eating disorder.

      10 lbs the first week is pretty easy. If you are losing more then 3lbs a week after that though you are probably losing muscle too. I'd recommend though making your goal to lose weight or gain muscle. You can't really have both too easily, but you can alternate lifestyles to benefit one or the other pretty easily.
      Just keep moving…

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      My dad is on Weight Watchers, and he dropped a lot of weight over 2 mos. I think he used to weigh 260ish, and he's now down to 200ish. However, he bikes a lot. He's been doing it for about a yr and he's kept the weight off. Honestly, I would do a Weight Watchers program along with exercise

      I did a 4mi run the other day and lost 5lbs, lol

      I don't really agree with walking as an exercise. That's just me. Unless you're going to do a 5mi hike, I don't feel like walking does much. If you're able to, I'd start running 3times a week. Also, buy a jump rope. I thought I was in decent shape and after doing jumprope for a min and a half, I was tired!

      Biking is pretty awesome, too, I think

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      I don't really agree with walking as an exercise. That's just me. Unless you're going to do a 5mi hike, I don't feel like walking does much. If you're able to, I'd start running 3times a week.
      Regular walking has been proven to have great effects on the body.
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      Well, i have been doing this walk for about 2 weeks now and have lost maybe 5 lbl, so not the fast start i was hoping. I was hoping for 20 lbl loss in the first 2 weeks like i normally do when i decide o lose weight. I wanna do this slowly instead of as fast as i can that way i wont lose intrest in this because this time i have the feeling i am ready to do this. 1 long hour walk 4-5 days a week is what i am doing now, in a few months or less i'll be buying a crossbow (similar to a bowflex) from a guy at my work. I have RARELY drank any pop in the past 2 weeks, but mostly water and a lot of it from dasani and brita in my fridge. I eat good stuff still but not always, i'm told it's fine if sometimes you eat your normal stuff every once in a while. But...i REALLY do not want to rush this, my changes should hopefully be done in a year (not fully but alot of it), so next June. When i rush things i lose intrest in them. Besides...once i get my crossbow hopefully i'll start gaining muscle in 3 months. I noticed a huge difference lifting heavy stuff when i lifted my 20 pound weights 20 times per day for 3 months.

      I don't think i'll be able to run that well, i had major knee surgery when i was 18 and running can and probably will be hard on my legs, so maybe i'll just buy a tredmill or something. I plan to walk around my golf course tomorrow 2 times (45 mins 1 way, then 45 mins the other).

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      Hey, you are doing very good so far. You just need to adapt to your situation; if your knee is damaged you should use a bike or an elliptical or a stair machine, those do much less damage to your bones. Also never be afraid to push yourself; your body will know how to adapt if you start jogging. Obviously be careful and do not strain yourself either. I would also advise against a bowflex type machine and invest into some cheap dumbbells if you are planning on using weights.

      On the diet side keep drinking water and adapt your meals slowly; cut down on the carbs gradually, do not just go from eating burgers everyday to eating only salad; that is also known to cause stress for your body.

      Keep up the good work you can do it as long as your motivation is there.

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      I am taking my time with the food thing. I eat salad now but i also eat a few things i used to eat. I'm planning on doing it slow like i said. Just got home from work, smoked some weed with some work buds and did my hour walk home.

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      You got the right idea with the weight lifting and stuff. Weight lifting helps you lose more fat in the long run than running, since the muscle you build up burns fat all day long. With any sort of knee or leg trouble, swimming is a great way to go instead of running.

      As for what to eat, just eating less and not eating junk food will help a ton. The little snacks are what kill you. If you eat say a small brownie every day, you have two choices. You can either skip your snack each day and lose an extra pound each week. Or you can run for an extra two hours every day just to break even? I think the choice is obvious.

      The trick for diets though, is to eat stuff that you can eat for the rest of your life. If you want to lose weight its a life style change, and you change your diet permanently. Going on a diet just to lose weight is silly, because the moment you go back to your normal diet you gain the weight back again.

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      I dont completely agree with that. A good diet is where you are always full, just full of the right ingredients. A snack is a very good thing if instead of a brownie you take an apple or some salt-free peanuts. The goal of your diet is not to starve every day; it is to provide you with the right nutrients. So obviously dont eat candy for snack but do take snacks during the day.

      Know what is right for your body and try to limit yourself to that if you want a good diet; it doesn't have to be anything extreme... Just replace your daily meals with a healthier choice. EX: instead of KFC chicken for supper get a chicken at the grocery store and boil it instead of frying it. And instead of fries make a salad or whatever...

      Good luck

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      I meant the cheating junk food snacks hehe. The ones that you say to yourself, "Oh just a little bit wont hurt me." Just a little bit can set you back hours of working out though. I think any one who has been on a diet, knows what I mean.

      I wasn't speaking of general snacking as in eating between meals. Though speaking of always being full, another good tip is to stop eating before you are full. Since it actually takes a while for your stomach to register how much food is in you, if you stop early and wait 10-15 minutes, you will still feel full, even while having aten a lot less.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Alric View Post
      I meant the cheating junk food snacks hehe. The ones that you say to yourself, "Oh just a little bit wont hurt me." Just a little bit can set you back hours of working out though. I think any one who has been on a diet, knows what I mean.

      I wasn't speaking of general snacking as in eating between meals. Though speaking of always being full, another good tip is to stop eating before you are full. Since it actually takes a while for your stomach to register how much food is in you, if you stop early and wait 10-15 minutes, you will still feel full, even while having aten a lot less.
      yeah well i appologize not to be one of those people that starts a diet and still eats brownies. I didnt realize that you were stating the obvious... I mean i dont come to some thread and tell a person that is trying to stop smoking that it isnt healthy to smoke one per day, I think they already know that.


      And that tip on being full is vary vague; most people have a different body type and different response to the food. It is better to know what you are consuming and how much of it and go by portions rather then to try and wait it out until you feel full.

      I'm sorry to tell you but you seem to be the one giving tips coming out of a six graders phys ed book. LucidFlanders is doing good on his diet and most importantly he is seeing results.

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      You think it is common sense, but you would be surprised to find out how much of it isn't. So many people try to lose weight all the time, and tons fail, over and over. Its why weight loss plans and diet pills is such a huge industry in the US.

      So yea, it might be pretty basic stuff, but that doesn't mean its not worth repeating. Its kind of silly to do anything, while ignoring all the basics.

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      http://www.whfoods.com/

      A guy at my work told me about this gold mine of a site. It really goes IN DEPTH for healthy foods, long long read.

      Hit foods list at the top and enjoy the longness of each thing. Prepare for a new scrollwheel.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Armistice View Post
      I did a 4mi run the other day and lost 5lbs, lol
      No you didn't. there are 3500 calories in a pound and calories are a measure of energy. You would have to burn 17500 calories to lose 5 pounds. And to lose 17500 pounds in 4 miles, you would have to weigh about 7000 pounds to be able to expend that much energy in such a short distance.

      http://www.runtheplanet.com/resource...riecounter.asp

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      Quote Originally Posted by Alric View Post
      You got the right idea with the weight lifting and stuff. Weight lifting helps you lose more fat in the long run than running, since the muscle you build up burns fat all day long. With any sort of knee or leg trouble, swimming is a great way to go instead of running.
      Weight lifting does not burn many calories. Just because you have stronger muslces doesn't mean you'll be using them all the time either. Weight lifting does make you stronger, but does not change you're daily routine. What I mean by that is even if you start weight lifting, it's not like you'll be moving all your furniture around every day and lifting up tables for the hell of it. If that were the case, then you'd be right, lifting weights does help you lose fat in the long run but I don't believe that's true.

      Running and swimming are both great excersizes, both of which will burn more fat than weight lifting. I suggest you start with those things

      EDIT: Sorry for double post

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      Just finished walking around the golf course, 4.6 KM's in 1 hour. Had a nice bowl filled with fruits i washed.

      1 Banana cut into pieces
      A hand full of grapes
      A hand full of Cherries
      3 big Strawberrys

      That tasted good! ALso a big glass of water from the brita filter because regular unfiltered water is NASTY! filtered water is SO MUCH better.

      Everytime i walk around the course i pass the gym, it's pretty big now compared to before but when i walk around i see it's pretty much always empty at the time. Maybe it's a good time to go there? when there is only a few people. 6PM i am done my walk by.

      I must have looked at the scale wrong or something, seems i have lost 10 pounds already. Hell yeah! The scale numbers go by 20...so 20, 40, 60, 80, 100 etc. I'm also not having the same problems i had that lead me to my decision to do this. Everytime i go outside and it's sunny and people are around i always feel...happy, and can't stop smiling. I guess that is why every single person looks at me.
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      You burn energy even if you don't do anything at all. Just living and being alive burns energy. The heavier you are the more you burn just to stay alive. A person who weighs 200 lbs burns more energy standing than a person who weighs 100lbs doing the same thing. Muscle is pretty dense and increasing your muscle mass does in fact burn more energy in the long run.

      That also explains why its easier to lose weight when you first start a diet. As you lose weight, your body naturally begins to burn less energy. It isn't a lot but it does really add up.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Alric View Post
      You burn energy even if you don't do anything at all. Just living and being alive burns energy. The heavier you are the more you burn just to stay alive. A person who weighs 200 lbs burns more energy standing than a person who weighs 100lbs doing the same thing. Muscle is pretty dense and increasing your muscle mass does in fact burn more energy in the long run.

      That also explains why its easier to lose weight when you first start a diet. As you lose weight, your body naturally begins to burn less energy. It isn't a lot but it does really add up.
      the amount of energy you burn just by being alive is insignificant compared to what you burn while you exercise. Also being heavier is not exactly proportional to the energy you burn. Because then fat people would lose more weight. On the other hand you are right that with more muscle mass you burn more fat but that is because muscle tissue requires more energy so basically like a 6 cylinder engine will burn more fuel then a 4 cylinder engine. When you jogg most of calories are burned in your legs and core, which means having more muscle there will increase not only your endurance but the calories burned during workouts.

      And the fact that you lose more weight at the beginning of the diet is because your body quickly adapts to the changes you make, not because you weigh more... The change in the calories you burn daily after you lost a little weight is almost insignificant.

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      So i am still doing this walk all the time 4-5 days a week but i am at a point where im seeing little to no results anymore. It's been like 3 months now but everyone is telling me i have lost alot of weight even though it has only been 25 pounds, but it's also been on the hips and stuff. I am like 2 notches lower belt wise then i used to be. Next week i will be hooking up my crossbow that has been sitting in the other room for like 2 months and i'll be in better shape. But no problems breathing anymore.

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