[insight] lucid dreaming is just another trance state

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_DkX6oKHguc...320/dexter.jpg


so I just had an idea

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meditation = trance
hypnosis = trance
day dreamnig = trance
dreaming = trance

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it`s like pizza with different toppings

yes I already posted it, I am a wise-ass I know :D


so you were all mentioning meditation and awereness as a being extremely helpfull

well mastering meditation can take up at least a decade for some people, because of the unecessary emotional baggage they might carry and of course this thing`s vague so that ain`t helpin` yo either


one of the easier forms of meditation, with the most powerfull results is Zen meditation

now pls don`t argue about my tantric shit is more present then your yogic bollocks okaaaay???

and why would you even want to spend a decade, learning it??? :panic:


and by the way you don`t learn from books and video, you learn from a master, most of us has no access to an 80 year old zen guru, who did this thing for at least 50 years

and you don`t need no special tricks either

in life most stuff follow this pattern

BE -> DO -> HAVE


what you need is the belief system of this guy and that would catapult you on to another level :shadewink:

no not on his, but far beyond that would be achievable on your own sweat and time is precious


I use a lot of hypnosis stuff and there is this Zen matery thing I used from Dick Sutphen

this stuff got theory as well as guided meditation things as well as hypnotic tracks that install the belief system of a master

I used this stuff for my own selfish reason, that`s in negotiating/persuading/selling because those things are more about emotional control then anyhting else

yes it`s a form of manipulation :D

and yes even your dog manipulates you to take him/her to a walk, now grow up pls, it`s what you want to achieve and why that makes persuasion good or bad in the end, even the pope tries to manipulate you to go into his version of heaven


and don`t worry about hypnosis, it`s comfortable,like meditation, you will be between awake and sleep

and you can`t efff up your subconscious

I tried it :D

for years :D

if you said "I want to quit smoking" and I would make an mp3 to you with sugestions like "you are a gay sociopathic murderrer" you wouldn`t become one, your subconscious has it`s own firewall, you will immediately come out of trance and even remember what disgusted you in the first place and be angry at me :D


so the Dick Sutphen stuff

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http://www.amazon.com/Self-Mastery-Develop-Detachment-Program/dp/B0018WZ2KM/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_1

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it`s old, but it still rocks :D

just have the patience

you`ll find it on certain sites that like to share information

this is the album art if you use ipods and like to organize things visually

http://www.success.bz/products/covers_large/5453.jpg


this thing could skyrocket the level of your lucidity

just a sidenote

ummm

I`m like one week into LD, so pls don`t mock me with stupid stuff like "you`ve been doing this zen thing for how much and you haven`t even achieved 1 lucid dream ... so it`s not good"

it`s like when you analyse some dreams and to the 70% of the world population seeing snakes, rats, bats, zombies in dreams means they have serious emotional problems and because to the rest of the 30% it might mean something different you conclude, that`s not 100% accurate so it`s bs

a professional basketball player that got a multimillion $ contract misses 60% of time, that means he is accurate 40% of the time

dream analysis is accurate 70% of the time

pls use common sense

if you have none, buy some at the flea market from a chinese guy :D