are this hypnagogic images ? ... (without going to sleep)

If i close my eyes, just now for example,while sitting in front of computer, wait few minutes, on inside zone of my eyelids they are appearing some random images, 2d flat, mostly grey color, it can be faces, places of nature, and some of them are very engaging,it is just like watching national geographic, when i start doing it while preparing to sleep while in bed, they very very fast take me to sleep without me even knowing it....
they look something like this, i made example here, but they are changing, sometimes they have much better contrast almost with details....http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/4370/137tmb.jpg

could you tell me exactly what are this ? are this hypnagogic or phosphenes ?
if hypnagogic - possible while fully awake with just closed eyes ?


thanks.

I get this quite alot.. I look into the back of my eyes and it feels like they are open and i can see weird stuff but my eyes are closed.. its odd, very odd

I find this cool :D

but what it is ?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by memtest81

but what it is ?

---

I'm not entirely sure, but my best guess is that since your brain is denied of sight, it tries to make out patterns of familiar things. Kind of like how you will sometimes hear familiar noises while listening to white noise.

ok, but you know sometimes it transforms into super real with full colors landscapes or places or cities....just like i would have transparent eyelids....it is very engaging....

They very well could be, but I wouldn't put falling asleep out of the question. You can often fall asleep without realizing it. If they shift into a realistic landscape my guess is that you're experiencing something similar to a WILD.

Maybe Clairvoyance? See wikipedia definition "The term clairvoyance is used to refer to the ability to gain information about an object, person, location or physical event through means other than the known human senses, a form of extra-sensory perception." I will leave the rest for you, these things are kinda creepy for me.. :lol:

These are not hypnagogic imagery as those only occur while falling asleep, hence the precursor hypnagogic. Just seeing images with your eyes closed go by many names but the broadest is entoptic phenomena. They are also known as phosphene, as you said, though both of these are mostly the random shapes and don't normally create any full image.

It's also possible that you are naturally good at visualization, allowing you to imagine things and "see" them, much like hallucinations. If you can, try to alter these images. If you can change the scene, decide what you are viewing and manipulate it, then it's probably just good visualization. If you can't control them and they just change on their own I'd classify them as entoptic phenomena.