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      Suicidal thoughts

      Alas, my suicidal thoughts are back and I'm trying to weigh the benefits of "staying" or "leaving"
      If I stay, things could get better, a stable job, happy family, ect
      If I leave, I don't have to stress about work, food, water, getting a house, friends, lovers, arguments, fights, my emotions
      Last time I was really on edge was in late November, I was unemployed, lonely, and there was a really big tension at home
      Decided to try some RC's and god damn that made me feel even more like shit about my life
      Thoughts came rushing in about disappointing my friends and family, never achieving my goals, breaking promises to myself
      It was ugly but it was the kick in the ass that I needed
      Now I've got a job, a few grand saved up for school this upcoming fall but then my thoughts just keep rushing
      Will I get accepted? If I do, will I pass? Will I like it? What if I don't get accepted? Do I still work here? I hate this job, I don't want to go to work tomorrow
      Meditation helps a bit but when I look at the clock I just stress out
      3 hours until bedtime, what do I do with my time? I don't want to waste my time, I don't want to sleep, I don't want to work tomorrow
      Any tips for calming this anxiety?
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      My suggestion would be that you dive deep into Eckhart Tolles teachings. He was pretty much suicidal all his life up to the age of 29, until he one night, randomly transformed his state of mind from suicidal to pure joy. He is indeed an inspirational person, and he's teaching is something everyone should practice. Here is a random clip from his youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8dBAIAFoG8

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      Can't disagree with the above. It seems I'm always turning stronger towards Tolle, Thich Naht Hahn, Deepak Chopra, Neale Donald Walsch, etc. when I'm feeling dangerously close to the edge, like iamerror.

      I'd also recommend the OP watches "The Secret" and "Tuning In Spirit Channelers in America" (they're both available in their entirety on youtube, I believe) and getting on Mike Dooley's "The Universe" email mailing list for further (almost daily) inspiration.

      Tho, I'd NEVER vote against meditation, breathing and stilling the mind, but I know from experience it can be a very big challenge when you're unsettled. I try to use those down times to (at least) absorb as much as I can and then put it to use through meditation, etc. later when I'm feeling a bit better.

      Op: My father took his life when I (and my 2 siblings) were young and you know what? It's never the best way. You WILL hurt someone. More likely MANY others. You will leave them confused, ashamed and guilty, however you would do it. It doesn't matter if you're alone or with family. Others will be affected and hurt. I guarantee that.

      And there's no escaping it.

      In the universal scope of things, it may seem that it wouldn't matter, but it would. You'd be sending your soul off course. This has all been done before and if you exited now, it will have to be accomplished again, I believe.

      Please don't take this the wrong way, Op - but the world owes you zilch. You owe the world, and yourself - love and happiness. And it will come when you decide to make it come. It will come and stay, when you decide it's time. And one way to begin that is to put an end (once and for all) to these ideas of escape and feelings of impending disaster. Stop it. No one and nothing can hurt you.

      You're blessed. We all are.

      Stay with us, it's just starting - and it's always getting better.

      The next time something goes "wrong," (your pen doesn't work, your lighter's out of fluid, she/he doesn't say what you want them to say, an argument ensues, etc. etc.) TRY THIS: smile. Just smile (inside if you have to) and let it go. Focus on your breathing and be pleasant, no matter what and watch the changes begin.

      A wise man once said, "In life you can try to be clever or pleasant. I tried to be clever most of my life and I amassed a fortune, but never happiness. So after losing everything, I tried being pleasant and it increased the quality of my life 100-fold."

      You see, we get back exactly what we put out there.

      It's the same when we *snap" at that pen, lighter, person, etc. We snap, we get angry or upset and we can watch the changes come....each downer's negativity feeding off the next one.

      Don't try to fool the universe - own it. The next time you lose your keys, laugh. The next time you feel someone has wronged you - forgive them and tell them you understand and it's ok.

      Then watch the changes become. Each change furiously feeding off the positive energy of the one that proceeded it.

      You get the picture.

      You can change all this right now.

      We know it's not easy - but then again we know that it IS easy too.
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      I too am a suicidal person (I say it's not that I'm suicidal, it's that I'm particular), so I'm not here to sell you a dogmatic list of reasons you just never should. But I did want to mention that I don't find it fully helpful to glamorize "the other side". You listed a lot of things you'd like to see go away there, and many of those seem like good candidates, but I don't think you'll lose your emotional responses. So I suppose the take away would be, to not assume death cures all, and to still work on the things you may not think it addresses. Personally, my main reason to leave would be my body and pain, but oddly enough, I really seriously do not believe death is my final "physical" pain, yet it still would seem to address some of my other issues, and it is at least trying. I say, when you're starving in the forest and there's no food, you ~move~. I may not know what the other options are exactly like, but I know this option isn't working for me, so, it's sit there and accept that, or try for better. I never really was the settling type.

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      Contact a suicidal hotline immediately. Just search for one online, you'll find plenty of free 24/7 numbers to use. I don't underestimate the seriousness of suicide, and since you clearly feel it's a problem, contact professional help. And when I say "immediately," I mean immediately after reading this.

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      Thanks for the insightful replies guys, I've read all of them and they made me feel a lot better
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      Youve probably heard it before, but suicide is never the answer. Obviously I do not know you personally so I dont know exactly what can help you get out of this mood, but what I do when Im down is chillout and put some music on. Music that I love, like chillstep. Also man Id suggest that you check out Alan watts. That dude teaches some amazing stuff and he could probably help you out in this "struggle". Whatever you decide to do, just remember- Giving up doesnt fix anything. You are way above your struggles. Check out the quote below this comment in my signature.
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