Sleeping In Sucks!

I feel sort of unique in this regard: sleeping in does not enhance my recall or vividity at all. If I sleep in beyond the time when I naturally or artificially (alarm clock) wake up, I am guaranteed (I've had several years to verify this) to almost immediately lose all remembrance of my dreams for the entire night. I might have new ones during my sleeping-in period to make up for them, but they are always shallow, fragmented, and evanescent things that I can't remember upon waking. My best recall occurs when I wake up between 7-8 hours of sleep, turn off my alarm clock in the morning, and push myself into enough of a sitting position that I can't inadvertently fall back asleep. From here I close my eyes, keep very still, and assuming I haven't let the worries of the day flood into my head yet my memories come back to me full and detailed. After getting what I can out of that I might lie back down in the position I woke up in to squeeze more recall out of my somatic memory center (body position-associated memory), but only after I've woken up enough to trust myself not to fall back asleep again. I've never had a lucid dream and so can't say if I'm more likely to have them sleeping in, but I suspect if ever I did I'd have a hell of a time making much of them or remembering them at all upon waking.

Is there anyone else that despises sleeping in? Beyond destroying my dream recall for the night, it makes me more tired, more achey (especially my lower back), gives me a headache and a sensation of sweaty, greasy sleep-scuzz all over my body that I have to shower off. It makes me suffer from severe crankiness over missing the morning and blowing off my potential productivity for the day. I absolutely loathe sleeping in.

Sounds like your a blast in the morning, before you get your coffee!:p

I always think that if I got more sleep, I would be better at lucid dreaming, but on the days I actually do sleep in, it doesn't seem to help that much.

How's your recall if you wake up at night? Do you sleep the whole night thru without waking up? I always wake up several times at night; rarely do I go the whole night without getting up.

Maybe you should drink a lot of water so you will wake up more. Hopefully you are not having a lucids that you are forgetting about.

Yeah... Sleeping in just makes you tired. But it provides more dream time. Its desorab;e yet undesirable in its own right.

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Originally Posted by moonbeam

Sounds like your a blast in the morning, before you get your coffee!

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I don't even hang with caffeine... if I need a hot drink I steep some loose-leaf green tea, or I make a devil concoction of cinnamon/cocoa/turmeric/black pepper to sucker punch me awake via my tastebuds.

I'll wake up at night if I go to sleep less than tired or if, like you say, I've got a bursting bladder. If I do, I do exactly the same things I would do in the morning to pull out the memories - otherwise I'll fall asleep and forget utterly and irrecoverably about whatever I dreamed. When I pull that ritual off for me, I can usually count on being able to remember at least 3-4 dreams by the time I'm through with morning, if not more. Also, I know REM periods get longer/more intense towards morning, whatever, but as far as I can tell I recall just as many dreams in just as much detail from all periods of my sleep cycle, early and late alike.

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Originally Posted by Moonbeam

Hopefully you are not having a lucids that you are forgetting about.

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That would be the irony of my life... and is actually the premise of a paradigm-changing/confidence-building method I thought of a week or two that I might expand on into a post at some point.

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Originally Posted by IDreamOfWTF

But it provides more dream time.

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Sort of, but like I said, for me that dream time is many degrees lower-quality than my core sleep time, and I have to sacrifice whatever I've dreamed before sleeping in to have a go at it. Seems like a poor trade-off to me. I guess I'm missing the obvious have-it-all answer here, which is to wake up and record like I usually do and then get back down and let myself fall back asleep after all, but I find that by the time I've recorded my night's dreams down that sleeping in is the last thing on my mind; all I want to do is get out of bed and be productive (since I already have been, by writing down my dreams).

Props on the username, by the way. Accurately describes what I have to deal with every night, in any case. But can you live up to the hype?

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Originally Posted by Spamtek

I don't even hang with caffeine... if I need a hot drink I steep some loose-leaf green tea, or I make a devil concoction of cinnamon/cocoa/turmeric/black pepper to sucker punch me awake via my tastebuds.

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Ye gads. Sounds healthy but I think I'll stick to coffee, at least first thing in the morning.

But you have all those cool long story-dreams; maybe that is just the trade-off you've got, and you don't necessarily need to improve things. Altho getting lucid in one of those dreams would really be something.

Well you know what they say, "early to bed, early to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy, and..." what was that last part? Ah well.

Anyway, it helps for me to have a regular sleep schedule and I try not to sleep in on the weekends. I usually feel pretty invigorated this way, both mentally and physically, sleeping about 8-9 hours a day.

The only reason why sleeping in helps me is because of those few dreams I have after waking up once. I sleep so deeply that it is easiest for me to remember the dreams I have in the early morning as opposed to all of the ones I have throughout the night.

sleeping in DOES suck! It makes me feel like a lazy bum.

I totally agree it affects with recalling your dreams from the night before. And sleeping in will just make me have a few wierd hardly worth writing down dreams. So yes I totally agree with you! haha.

If you sleep too much it makes you tired for the rest of the day I find.