how long are you sleeping for, and 8:30 sounds too late for WILD, the sun is distracting. |
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Im still unsure if i can see hypnagogic imagery. I lied down in bed today at around 8:30 after i walked up and went outside in the cold and had breakfast and showered so i was fully awake. I started the method of staying completly still i did this till 9:45 exsactly. I felt my boddy getting heavier and heavier and i also felt my hands that were at my waist go inside my body. But i had no hypnagogic imagery what so ever. im kinda pissed about this because it sounds like i can enter a lucid dream through hypnagogic imagery. i know theres billions of techniques out there but i would like to try this one. Does anyone know what im doing wrong or not doing right? |
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I should be floating, but I'm weighted by thinking
how long are you sleeping for, and 8:30 sounds too late for WILD, the sun is distracting. |
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You need to be in a dark room 1st off. Next, when you wake up to try for a WILD, keep ur eyes still, but still look at the blurrs of color (I feel that when I do that, like have the blank stare at the colors, I start to forget everything around me, and feel as if Im shifting). |
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I've found that hypagnogic imagery, for me, has nothing to do with lucid dreams, meditations, how sleepy I am, or my mind state. It's just something I see at scarce random times when I close my eyes and get lucky. It most often works in a very dark room when I'm on my knees in a fetal position with my eyes on my hands. I have to keep my eyes looking at a very specific position. If I move them or blink, the images start to blur. |
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There are lots of people who don't actually see imagery. I see it ocasionally, but mainly I just hear noises/voices/music. |
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Do you know the terror of he who falls asleep? To the very toes he is terrified, Because the ground gives the way under him, And the dream begins... - Friedrich Nietzsche
I always see it, wherever my eyes are pointed. Although I can only see it clearly(ish) when it's dark, or when I close my eyes. It's an object which is always morphing. Most of the time it's a big mess, like objects from my imagination, but normal things also form. I disagree with your statement that it has nothing to do with hypnagogia, LDs, meditation, I believe that these things are connected. Why wouldn't they be? |
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Because I can be perfectly awake and about my normal business and close my eyes and there they'll be. Also, the normal fireworks and mess you see when you close your eyes don't count. It actually has to start forming coherent things - and you'll probably know when that happens. |
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Well the mess I was talking about is made of coherent things. It's up to a persons imagination to percieve what is given. Some people can't see faces, others see faces where they don't want to, whatever the situation it's all relative. Since this is my universe, everything perceive to be real is real. Even though what I said can also be attributed to the fireworks, I still see a morphing object. |
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Ok then here is a rephrase: Hypagnogic imagery does not require you to: |
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My best experience with HI was last year after doing some meditation in my bed for about 10 minutes. I then timed myself to see how long I could hold my breath (over 1:30) and then lied down at a 45 degree angle against a bunch of blankets and pillows piled against the corner of my bed where it intersects with the corner of my room. I can't remember if I knew about LD at the time but I can tell you I was weirded out by HI! I was seeing polygonic shapes in strange rainbow colors it was amazing. |
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-The more you want something, the less obtainable it becomes.-
Tasks of the month completed: 3 (Bas. 3/Adv. 0)
Lucids: 7 (DILD-7)
I've been sleeping from 5:30AM - 3:00PM the past few days (don't ask why). It hasn't interfered with my ability to dream at all. In fact, for some reason I seem to have alot more recallable and/or lucid dreams when I mess my sleep schedule up for some reason. |
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Times for sleeping should not affect lucid dreams at all realy, well if anything I have better lucid dreams when I have very light sleep, and sometimes this is better achieved in the mornings, and I would go as far to day most DILDs are in the morning. |
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what excatly is hypagnogic imagery ? |
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Normal visual hallucinations common when falling asleep or waking up. The hallucinations don't have to be only visual, they can also be auditory and tactile... have you ever felt like floating above your bed or heard stuff when falling asleep? Well that's what it is. |
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Got to reading all of the posts hear and thanks for the tip. I thought I would reply with my attempt yesterday to balance my charkas and what I got was more then I bargained for. It was about 3:00pm when I decided to take a nap because I just went through hell taking down Xmas lights. As I said early I was doing an exercise to clear my charkas. I went through the process and was finished. I must also note that I was using earplugs for the 3rd time because I got them as a stocking stuffer for Xmas. |
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I should be floating, but I'm weighted by thinking
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