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      Do you dream in a coma?

      If you have ever been in a coma, do you dream? And if you were a Lucid Dreamer and you were in a coma, do you think that you could go Lucid and wake yourself up? Or would you just have to go and and walk around in a dreamworld for weeks possibly months?
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      Duno about a coma... I got concussed once, dont remember most of the day... its kinda creepy feeling actually, losing memories like that, in this place, im kinda gettin used to it on the other side.
      If you were like me? you would probably be stuck there =)

      Depends on the comma I think. Some are realy deep and there is little brain activity, others they show lots of activity like one would see with a dreaming person, but I duno if any of them have woken up if they have what they recounted their dreaming experience or rememberd it.. might be interesting to look into.
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      Coma

      I always had this notion that I'm in a coma right now, And one day I'll wake up, and the entire life i've lived will be nothing more than my brain making up a world for me.

      I mean, how uncool would that be........Merh,

      But yeah, I think you dreams in comas
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      You don't dream when in a coma since your brain activity in the cortex is reduced.

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      That would be kinda freaky Rtex that you are in a coma and you wake up and your whole life has been a fake, kinda like the matrix in a way. But that means if your in a coma right now and your mind is making all this up that means I'm not real. And I'm pretty sure I'm real.
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      Up to one in three people who recover claim to retain some memory of their time in coma. Their accounts depict a spectrum of experiences ranging from an absolute void to partial awareness within overall unconsciousness, much like dreaming during deep sleep.
      Vegetative patients are another story though.
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      Uhhh, right, Um, yea....anyhow,
      I mean, Scientist know, what, Like pretty much nothing about the mind(I said Mind, Not brain) Couldn't you still dream vividly with low brain activity? All i'm saying is we have yet to explore all tyhe brains capabilities. Anyone agree?
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      they have ideas, they see connections to certain things like brain wave activity and whether or not one is dreaming, in the lucid dreaming experiments they have run, people were dreaming and lucidly and they recorded brain activity and stuff... but brain wave activity and fMRI images are a generalization and can never pinpoint what an actual thought is, the same region of the brain lights up with different thoughts at times... But yeah they do know next to nothing about how it really works and what we really are.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Scott0302 View Post
      That would be kinda freaky Rtex that you are in a coma and you wake up and your whole life has been a fake, kinda like the matrix in a way. But that means if your in a coma right now and your mind is making all this up that means I'm not real. And I'm pretty sure I'm real.
      lol
      How is it that years after the movie release, some how the Matrix is always alluded into these.
      A coma would be great,
      Maybe we could lurk around without a body
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      I always kind of wondered this exact thing..its very interesting.

      Anyone up for being put in a coma and finding out?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Rtex View Post
      I always had this notion that I'm in a coma right now, And one day I'll wake up, and the entire life i've lived will be nothing more than my brain making up a world for me.

      I mean, how uncool would that be........Merh,

      But yeah, I think you dreams in comas
      Quote Originally Posted by Scott0302 View Post
      That would be kinda freaky Rtex that you are in a coma and you wake up and your whole life has been a fake, kinda like the matrix in a way. But that means if your in a coma right now and your mind is making all this up that means I'm not real. And I'm pretty sure I'm real.

      There is actually a philosophy that YOU are the only living thing in this world, and everything else, and i mean everything are just figments of your imagination.
      In other words, if your talking to someone, then you just talking to a figment of imagination. Isn't that a bit scary to think about? Also, if you tell someone about this "philosophy" They will obviously say something like "I'm pretty sure I'm real," like Scott said. That could also be your mind making up something to cover up this philosophy.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Scott0302 View Post
      If you have ever been in a coma, do you dream? And if you were a Lucid Dreamer and you were in a coma, do you think that you could go Lucid and wake yourself up? Or would you just have to go and and walk around in a dreamworld for weeks possibly months?
      I think I may have been in a coma once. I wasn't admitted to hospital but my friends(?!) thought I was dead. If this ever happens to your friend, for whatever reason, please call an ambulance!

      I had absolutely no memory when I woke up. My last memory was just before I lost consciousness. I woke up wrapped in blankets but I was freezing cold. It wasn't an experience I want to repeat.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Semja View Post
      I think I may have been in a coma once. I wasn't admitted to hospital but my friends(?!) thought I was dead. If this ever happens to your friend, for whatever reason, please call an ambulance!

      I had absolutely no memory when I woke up. My last memory was just before I lost consciousness. I woke up wrapped in blankets but I was freezing cold. It wasn't an experience I want to repeat.
      There's a big difference between being out-cold, in a coma and dead. You probably fainted.

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      I didn't really want to get into a debate about it. I was out for hours, stone cold, I stopped breathing or was breathing so faintly it was not noticeable. I have fainted before. I didn't faint on that occasion. It didn't just happen, there were external causes. Whatever happened I'm not proud of it, I posted it out of interest. If it wasn't a coma its the closest I've been to a coma. Call it what you will.

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      Quote Originally Posted by reality<LDs View Post
      There is actually a philosophy that YOU are the only living thing in this world, and everything else, and i mean everything are just figments of your imagination.
      In other words, if your talking to someone, then you just talking to a figment of imagination. Isn't that a bit scary to think about? Also, if you tell someone about this "philosophy" They will obviously say something like "I'm pretty sure I'm real," like Scott said. That could also be your mind making up something to cover up this philosophy.
      That was Descartes wasnt it? or was it Frued, i cant remember, either way, they were both mental hippies...figuratively speaking of course, both philisophical geniuses none the less, point being dont take too much of what they say to be truth lol

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      Quote Originally Posted by oubaseballd3 View Post
      That was Descartes wasnt it? or was it Frued, i cant remember, either way, they were both mental hippies...figuratively speaking of course, both philisophical geniuses none the less, point being dont take too much of what they say to be truth lol
      indeed, but what we think is crazy talk, is just their(Frued and or Descartes) imagination creating us to think its crazy lol...
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      Anyone seen the Nickelodeon TV series "The Odyssey"? It's about a boy who goes into a coma and ends up in a different (possibly dream) world full of kids. I liked watching it, when I was about 11.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Rtex View Post
      I always had this notion that I'm in a coma right now, And one day I'll wake up, and the entire life i've lived will be nothing more than my brain making up a world for me.
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      Quote Originally Posted by reality<LDs View Post
      There is actually a philosophy that YOU are the only living thing in this world, and everything else, and i mean everything are just figments of your imagination.
      In other words, if your talking to someone, then you just talking to a figment of imagination. Isn't that a bit scary to think about? Also, if you tell someone about this "philosophy" They will obviously say something like "I'm pretty sure I'm real," like Scott said. That could also be your mind making up something to cover up this philosophy.
      This theory was called solipsism and it was Descartes who pioneered it. As he famously said "Cogito Ergo Sum" translated to "I think therefore I am". I like Nine Inch Nails explanation better "what if everything around you, isn't quite as it seems, what if all the world you think you know is an elaborate dream."
      And, if you think about it, is there really any way of knowing anyones consciousness outside of your own.
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      You do dream while in a coma. If you remember the dream is another question. But I do know someone who was in a car accident and was put into a coma. He said he had a dream that lasted the whole time he was unconscience. He went to the San Jose zoo with his family and learned ACTUAL facts from zoo keepers while sleeping. So maybe while in a coma your in a more advanced form of dream?

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      NO you cant.
      Coma is a pathologycal (non-normal) state of the brain functions, that do not have the components of normal sleep
      In normal sleep we have normally, what we call "four stages" that are defined by very clear cut "sleeping waves".
      When we reach phase III, we start involuntarily moving our eyeballs, and we reach the maximum muccle relaxation, (the so called REM or Rapid Eye Movements). and in THIS period of REM, we do dream.... (you can see at times,people who are asleep, actually moving the eyeballs, as if " they were pursuing a moving object")
      In coma, there is no sleep wave pattern, nor REM stage, and thus, there are no dreams by definition, and the electrical waves taken to comatose persons, do not show the typical IV phases of NORMAL sleep.
      As you can see, dreaming ina coma, is utterly impossible, otherwise, it wouldnt be a coma
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      He is right.
      Up to one in three people who recover claim to retain some memory of their time in coma. Their accounts depict a spectrum of experiences ranging from an absolute void to partial awareness within overall unconsciousness, much like dreaming during deep sleep.
      REM stage is present during the recovery process.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Serinanth View Post
      much like dreaming during deep sleep.
      I think that is the key part. The experiences I've read have all seemed similar to NREM sleep, which would fit with what both Serinath and Neko-san are saying.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Robot_Butler View Post
      I think that is the key part. The experiences I've read have all seemed similar to NREM sleep, which would fit with what both Serinath and Neko-san are saying.

      Jesus, being stuck in Nrem would be horrible.
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      Neko, never trust Yahoo answers. Your source isn't credible. For one, the spelling, but for two a 'source' who's a doctor in germany. I don't think it's very likely that this doctor is specialized on dream research and up-to-date. NonREM dreams do exist, dreaming isn't relying that much on your brainwaves...

      So, I think you can dream in coma.
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