Thread: Japanese toy maker comes up with dream machine

Wow, an aid for the lucidly-challenged...that's kind of cool...

Heh, now you will hear people say, "Humph, I remember when you had to PRACTICE inducing lucid dreams with your own brain...damn kids today and their newfangled technology!"

The Japanese are ahead of us in technology by a year. They have probably been using it for a while.

Originally posted by Yume
The Japanese are ahead of us in technology by a year. They have probably been using it for a while.

actualy the usa is a bit more advance than the japs but we dont build any thing they doo so they get it first

Once users are sleeping, the gadget goes to work by combining the voice recording, lights, music and aromas to stimulate sleepers whenever it detects rapid eye movement - a sign that someone is dreaming.[/b]

The gadget will go on sale in the spring at 14,800 yen (£75), reports The Guardian.[/b]

Just sounds like a cheap version of the nova dreamer.

This dream machine was made by the same company that created the "bowlingual" and "meowlingual" devices which supposedly translates your pet's communication and lets you know what they're feeling... I've seen tv shows that showed how "well" these devices work! LMAO!!

The web sites also don't relate how the device detects REM. Hey but anything that exposes more people to the idea of lucid dreaming is a good thing!

many i dont think that there is a " good" short cut to LD unless you are a natural

I've seen something similar on TV before, on a program called 'Brainiac: Science Abuse'. They did an experiment to see if the subject (Jon Tickle) could dream about Kylie Minogue. They put loads of posters in his room, and played music before he slept, but when he woke, he couldn't remember his dream. I dont think it will work.

But Takara says it can't guarantee complete customer satisfaction. \"We are still experimenting, mainly with company employees,\" said marketing executive Kenji Hattori.[/b]

'nuff said.

Like GWP said the only good way is to do it yourself. Then you know you have really achieved something instead of just buying it away.

You are still the one who came up with it, the one who put the picture in it, the one who STARED at the picture, the one who said it, the one who it's playing back. All it does is wait until your eyes start twitching to give you the sensory information you told it to. The tutorials on DV already include all the techniques it uses, it's just put into one convenient little package.
It's like my psych. teacher said about hypnosis: "Let me tell you a little secret about hypnosis: all hypnosis is auto-hypnosis." No one can make you go in a trance. They can only tell you how you put yourself in. Dreams are a bit more suggestable, but it is still all yourself.

And the device isn't even for iducing lucidity, it's to make you have a certain dream.

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And the device isn't even for iducing lucidity, it's to make you have a certain dream.

And the NovaDreamer isn't even for inducing lucidity, it's to flash lights in your eyes
Same thing dude. Make it a dreamsign, and *bing* well done

You are still the one who came up with it, the one who put the picture in it, the one who STARED at the picture, the one who said it, the one who it's playing back. All it does is wait until your eyes start twitching to give you the sensory information you told it to. The tutorials on DV already include all the techniques it uses, it's just put into one convenient little package.
It's like my psych. teacher said about hypnosis: \"Let me tell you a little secret about hypnosis: all hypnosis is auto-hypnosis.\" No one can make you go in a trance. They can only tell you how you put yourself in. Dreams are a bit more suggestable, but it is still all yourself.

And the device isn't even for iducing lucidity, it's to make you have a certain dream.[/b]

My opinion on this:

a) what good is this gadget if your dream recall is weak?

B) Sometimes what I think I want to dream in waking life is not nearly as cool as what my brain can come up with. Example... one time I was dreaming that I was surfing in a wave pool that was in a cavern, and the cavern's walls were a green ice texture. I couldn't have come up with that scene if I tried, let alone take a friggin' picture of it, since it doesn't exist. So, with that in mind, I trust my brain and my soul to come up with better stuff than my waking consciousness ever could.

Peace, love, and tacos,
iddy

Originally posted by loose id
So, with that in mind, I trust my brain and my soul to come up with better stuff than my waking consciousness ever could.

Ditto. When you're lucid, can you tell your brain, "Hey, you there, make me a cool place!" and just be somewhere like a green california cavern or a restaurant where the tables are on a pool of water? (and you can dive for treasure, too It was kind of like the underwater part of the cave in the movie The Count of Monte Cristo) Especially after you've already consciously gone some specific place, then try to go to an interesting somewhere else.

Thanks!
Brent