Oh no, the secret is out!

What about natural lucid dreamers? Just having lucid dreams and enjoying them because thats what happens when you sleep is different from the people who work for a long time to try to master it.

Though I am willing to bet that evryone in the world has had a lucid dream at least once

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Originally Posted by Waterknight

Though I am willing to bet that evryone in the world has had a lucid dream at least once

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I bet new born babys havn't had a lucid dream before.

Well they say babies dream in the womb. They dont have any experiences though to relate to dreaming and wakefullness so I doubt they would have LDs but as soon as they start experiencing the world in any small way they will start having ways to differintiate dreams fro RL

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What about natural lucid dreamers? Just having lucid dreams and enjoying them because thats what happens when you sleep is different from the people who work for a long time to try to master it.

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I guess they will think it's natural and perfectly normal until they discuss it with their friends, and then discover that it's actually a gift/skill.

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I bet new born babys havn't had a lucid dream before.

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I'm sure he meant everyone in their lifetime will experience at least once.

thank you thats a much better wording

That is a good argument about the natural LDers... I say taht they are just lucky and area ble to sidestep the toils needed to master lucid dreaming. I guess they are an exception to my previous argument...

Yh, I guess Natural LDers are really the lucky ones, (No need to gloat, =P)

But, I'm pretty sure most Natural LDers use just DILDs to experience LDs, when it comes naturally...

I really want to hear about natural WILDers.. That can fall into a WILD extremely easily.. That would probably be the best ability to have... Since they are on average the most vivid of Lucid Dreams.

I would love to be able to WILD. I have tried but never succeeded. I guess you could say Im a natural because I had lucid dreams before ever learning what they were but I dont have them all the time. In fact the more I think about them sometimes the less they occur.

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Originally Posted by PXUmais

Yh, I guess Natural LDers are really the lucky ones, (No need to gloat, =P)

But, I'm pretty sure most Natural LDers use just DILDs to experience LDs, when it comes naturally...

I really want to hear about natural WILDers.. That can fall into a WILD extremely easily.. That would probably be the best ability to have... Since they are on average the most vivid of Lucid Dreams.

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I used to get SP all the time, especially when I was tired. But lost it as soon as I learned what sleep paralysis and lucid dreaming was. Funny how things work. :bang:

Aaah that sucks, Puff.

I like how this thread went from a yahoo article to morality of greed to sleep paralysis and natural peole

It sure does. :x
And... lol. :P

I think it started with morality of greed. :P

I don't think so. Everyone was talkinga bout how the article didn't doa ny research...

Oh no, Puff. Changed her avatar and sig. I loved that avater.... I'm sad now

I enjoyed puffins old avatr as well.

I want a LD I havent had one in so long now. I think my last one was in march or something like that.

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Originally Posted by Motley

I don't think so. Everyone was talkinga bout how the article didn't doa ny research...

Oh no, Puff. Changed her avatar and sig. I loved that avater.... I'm sad now

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Lol. :P I felt like a new one, as I do every week.

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Originally Posted by Puffin

I used to get SP all the time, especially when I was tired. But lost it as soon as I learned what sleep paralysis and lucid dreaming was. Funny how things work. :bang:

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I love how the mind's a mystery...

Thats why im taking psychology next year in school. But I doubt a highschool course isw gonna teach me a whole lot. But Im not interested enough to go into that field after school.

Psychology's epic IMO..

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Originally Posted by Dream_King

8. You don’t have to be asleep to dream.

Turns out, you can dream at your desk at work, in the car, even at your kid’s soccer game. Wakeful dreaming—not to be confused with daydreaming—is real and somewhat easy to do, says Dr. Bulkeley; it just involves tapping into your active imagination. The first step is to think about a recent dream you had (preferably a good one!). “Find a quiet contemplative place and bring a dream that you remember back into your waking awareness and let it unfold,” he says. “Let the dream re-energize.” Wakeful dreaming can be used as a relaxation tool, but Dr. Bulkeley says it can also help your mind process a puzzling dream. “It creates a more fluid interaction between unconscious parts of the mind and wakeful parts of the mind,” he says.

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it sounds like WILDing, or maybe the HH in the transition.

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Originally Posted by Waterknight

I would love to be able to WILD. I have tried but never succeeded. I guess you could say Im a natural because I had lucid dreams before ever learning what they were but I dont have them all the time. In fact the more I think about them sometimes the less they occur.

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same here pal
mine go outta control if i think about making them better.

It isnt a problem with control it is is when I think about it uin RL the frequency of them is less.

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it sounds like WILDing, or maybe the HH in the transition.

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Well.. I dunno... You don't exactly experience SP I'm guessing.. And it probably isn't as random as HH..

I think I've felt it before... I think it felt kinda like a advanced, more vivid daydream... But who knows what they're talking about..

Well Ive had a dream while awake before. I couldnt sleep for some reason but i still had a dream. It was like being in too places at once because I had my eyes open and could see and move around in RL but i could also see and move with my dream body. Sometimes everything would look like my room was just projected out into my dream enviroment or that my dream enviroment was projected onto my room.

Well I found out about lucid dreaming a few months ago, but I only told one person; a close family friend. She was kind of interested, but then I mentioned WILDing and she looked at me like I was crazy.

I wouldn't like everyone to find out. I cringe at the thought of going to school and everyone talking about it. As many of you have said, I feel like it's a part of me, something special I've found out that barely anyone knows about. Even if a friend found out, I'd hate them sitting there talking about it. It would make it so much less special to me...

As was said earlier in the thread; it would be less fulfilling if there was an easy route to go down. People feel such a sense of achievement when they get their first LD, their first WILD. And finally when they're getting them consistantly and they look back to when they first starting and see how much they've grown. I look back to when I first found out, and even though I'm still so new to this, I feel proud at how much I know about it now. I'm not cautiously taking baby steps anymore, I'm getting in there and doing as much as I can. After your efforts are rewarded, you feel amazing :)