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Originally posted by voidofform
maybe enlightenment is more related to \"loving what is\". * the whole dissociated thing doesn't have any value i think.
i feel if i could learn to love *everything*, *the butterflies, the bombs, the flowers, the psychopaths, the sunsets, rape, war, the stars, the shadows, the colours, sulphur dioxide, *everything*, i would be closer to enlightenment.
You view is a venerable old way of looking at it. the Ancient Sages used to say about the same thing -- about loving everything and everybody -- that is, before they would purchase a secluded hermitage out in the jungle or up on the side of some remote mountain where everything that would be available to be loved would be of their specific and careful choise. So it seems that those who had popularized such philosophy may have been a tad disingenuous about it. As I said, it is an aged philosophy. It has largely been replaced by the higher ethical Mystical Views of Catholicism in the West and Mahayana Buddhism in the East... oh, and Zoroastrianism in the middle who may well have been the originator of the view that a good Mystic did not have to condone Evil for the sake of getting by in the world. Afterall, isn't your indiscriminate Love for Evil, War, Hatred, and Bigotry... just so you can retain your undisturbed peace of mind... isn't that all an effective condoning of everything that is demonic. Certainly every Catholic Saint, Sufi Saint (Zoroastrian), and Mahayana Buddhist Saint who shown with the Bliss and Grace of God, certainly they all proved that one can be Enlightened without surrendering to the very Devil.