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Im trying to stretch my perception of time in order to get more dream time. I would turn or set the time dialating device to how much I want to dialate time and then let my subconscious work the magic. :P Also with the song of time and the inerse song of time I could probably do quite a bit more than that. I wonder if we are to far off topic?Quote:
Originally Posted by MindGames
I've had a WILD within a dream once, which was a really fascinating experience. The "first" dream was non-lucid, but in it I decided to try to WILD and was successful I felt the vibrations, the hypnagogic sounds and the wave of energy that feels like it shoots up your spine over your head, and suddenly I was in "another" dream. After some time I "woke up" from the "second" dream, and was in the same position and place as I was in the "first" dream. Moments later I actually woke up in my bed and was totally confused with what I had just gone through.
One could argue that it was all just one dream, with different dream scenarios and places happening, but my own words fail to describe how real it felt. Though the feeling of it being real is not exactly enough to prove that it was in fact a dream-within-a-dream, but personally I feel it was. Though my viewpoint leans more to the belief in astral planes, OBE's, shared dreaming, and the like, so my opinions are definitely biased.
But placebo or not, if it's worked for you before I definitely think you should try to experiment with it some more, you may just have a natural gift. :]
Yeah WILD is definitely something i need to refine down to a point where it comes naturally almost. It is essential because i think it is the most reliable way to enter a LD and once you know how to successfully do it, it's the door you have into the world of stability.
Inception did an Inception on us??????Quote:
Originally Posted by MindGames
I could imagine a device that you could use in a machine, such as a dream machine. I have brought my iPhone into several of mine. Of course, it didn't work right, but you could just spawn a dream machine, and have placebo and your brain do the work! (talking about dilating time ^_^)
That's one hell of a sentence, however that's basically what I'm getting at.Quote:
Originally Posted by iFatal
To all: http://www.dreamviews.com/f14/archet...t-tool-104409/Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterknight
That's basically what all this is about. Thats a great thread, some very good advice.
Yeah I know that thread lol. Very good Im still waiting for part 3 to come out.
Yeah, I wonder what ever happened with that? I was looking forward to that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterknight
A dream within a dream, such as in the movie inception, has some inherent problems. Part of the reason why time is distorted when dreaming is because the waking world is no longer keeping the pace of time, your mind is. However, if you were to enter a "dream" within a dream, it's not as if your dream brain actually falls asleep (thus compounding the effect)...you are still just unconscious. Now, that's not to say dream-time can't be extended, but there is nothing physically different occurring from someone in a dream, and someone who is dreaming within a dream. Ultimately speaking, one's neurons can only fire so fast due to physical limitations, and that is what will be the authority how long someone can stretch dream-time.
One thing to keep in mind, however, is that we are only really conscious from moment to moment. Once a moment has passed, it is converted into memory, which is how we bridge these moments. Perhaps the key to really extending dream-time lies in this phenomena, and being aware of every tiny moment that happens in a dream, instead of skipping through time like people tend to do while awake.
Just curious: did you have to stick yourself with a needle from the dream machine in order to go to sleep within the dream? Could you feel it? (I'd like to try this myself when I get better control, but I hate needles.)Quote:
I thought, "NOT THIS TIME!" and pulled out an inception-like dream machine, and went to sleep inside the dream.
I hooked it up to my temple (i know you're supposed to hook up the thing with two wires (or more) but in my dream, it only had one wire, so guess I decided to stick it onto my temple. )Quote:
Originally Posted by Emiko
EDIT: Used a suction cup to attach it to my temple.
Very cool! Makes sense to me. I'll try to remember that and keep it in mind for future reference. Thanks! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ElectaGuitar
My friend would enter OBE's through open eyed WILDs. Basically he would eject out of his body into the room he slept in, everything around him as realistic as real life. If we went to sleep he would enter a deeper layer with different attributes. The first level was for creation, second for people, ect. If he died in one level he would go to the last. When he first started the world would be so dark, and darker every level. He would tell me how dark and evil just going one level deeper made the world become. I use past tense just because he stoped messing with this spiritual practice.
Very cool. Very much like Inception. Did he tell you about this before Inception was released?Quote:
Originally Posted by Metalconch
The Fourth Day.Quote:
I am testing using an item like a magical hour glass (inspired by the time turner from harry potter) and playing the inverse song of time from Zelda: Majoras Mask to dialate time.
Just an update. I have tryed playing the song of time on my guitar a couple times and the frets never played the right notes and just sounded like a bunch of jumbled notes. The night before last I was in a lucid and tried it a again and played almost the whole song perfectly but then the notes distorted again and it ddin't do anything. I think it does that when the dream is less vivid so I will have to try harder in the future.
He was having OBE's before inception but he hadn't tried to reach another dream level before. One difference about the "dream characters" in his OBE's would be that they would Agree with ANYTHING he said, never arguing with him, he quickly became the president lol. It all started with my friend finding out about SP hallucinations. He thought it was so interesting that he actually wanted to have them. He would sit still eyes open for some time until they started. After about a week the SP quit happening, and he would enter an OBE instead.
He was having OBE's before inception but he hadn't tried to reach another dream level before. One difference about the "dream characters" in his OBE's would be that they would Agree with ANYTHING he said, never arguing with him, he quickly became the president lol. It all started with my friend finding out about SP hallucinations. He thought it was so interesting that he actually wanted to have them. He would sit still eyes open for some time until they started. After about a week the SP quit happening, and he would enter an OBE instead. Sorry, maybe a little more info than you wanted.