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I was wondering, simply, if any of you "pro" dreamers have ever tried to sit down and
meditate while lucid. I feel like this would be quite the accomplishment not just for
dreamers, but for man kind. I mean the idea is quite impressive if achieved. Think about
it, meditating inside your own head in your own world, while sleeping! lol
Anyhow, i hope to hear stories of what happens, or even if this is possible.
Thanks pals! <3
There was a thread awhile back (I can't find it) where a guy would sit at stare at a clock. He would then be able to have days and days of a lucid dream.
And I think if you did meditate, you would probably have a pretty long lucid dream because you just sitting down and relaxing.
Ah, there was a thread about this once. But really, it isn't all that great, then again I'm not a spiritual person, so yeah <.<
Oh it is certainly possible. I haven't sat down and meditated, but I have sat down in a lucid, smoked a blunt and just observed my dream the entire time. It was a very relaxing and an awesome experience. It is always good to, every now and then, take a lucid dream and just relax in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by lucidlistener
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I tried this once but I lost lucidity.
I tried it once. Everything got really slow and enhanced. It was like being high.
I did it after becoming Lucid in a falling elevator. I sat crossed legged on the floor, with my back to the wall. I relaxed with no fear of the elevator hitting the ground. The walls of the elevator became transparent like I was in a glass box. And instead of falling down a shaft, things switched to flying across a landscape.
haha sounds great guys, i can't wait till i get to try it out myself. I'd imagine something pretty crazy would happen if successful,
maybe even partial enlightenment! lol i doubt it, but still good to hear it's easy and relaxing while sitting down in a lucid.
I would still like to hear from a pro who's tried it out and not woken up.
Thanks for the replies and good luck testing!
tried it.... woke up :(
maybe i'll be able to lengthen and stabilize my lucidity with more practice!
But the problem is.. ..
You can't think of anything while meditating (thats what its all abt)
While to have lucid dreams you need to think.
Isn't that right?
You don't really need to think while in a LD, I have meditated a few times, but as I said before, it wasn't all that great to me.
this is actually my only real LD goal. everyone else wants to fly, turn into a dragon, or some other crap. meditation would be amazing.
try looking up dream yoga. high yogi's and buddhists thought that sleeping and dreaming were a waste of time and meditated even in "sleep" or instead of sleeping. i have meditated for about 5 hours at night instead of sleeping, fell asleep later and "woke up" outside my body. it was really scary. but then i slept for maybe an hour or two and felt AMAZING the next day. like i had some of the best sleep in MY LIFE. so i would say it is definitely definitely worth a shot.
But if you don't think in LD, then what will you be doing inside? Don't you need to decide like real life does in dreams situation?
When some1 in yr dream needs help?
Not really, since you are in control, it isn't that hard to put yourself on empti space, close eyes and stop focusing on everything else. I guess it is easier in a dream even, since I can't meditate in waking lol
And if someone needs help, just teleportation should suffice.
I remember a post about this long ago but can't find it now. It's an interesting idea and people have mixed views on what happens but most say as evidenced above that it causes prolongation.
Well, I believe that in dreams..there's still this kinda Order around.
You can't have everything going our way, if your mind and normal life is normal thats it.
The destination of my dreams, normally, takes place on an earthly like place.
I can do teleportation all that, but there's a limit.
I can't have me teleport all the way to the root of problems, it only brings me to the branches.
Which means i have to find my way in. Which is tiring. Thats the way life is infact.
Your mind can't be absurb such that everything goes your way doesn't it?
I'd assume it would. Not because one focuses on the dream itself, but because if one were to meditate then I'd assume he or she would experience the "fullness" of what the dream has to offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by LucidPower
Thanks for the advice, I'll look into it. Also i feel like we're on the same page when it comes to LDs. I've never been interested in the mediocre stuff, i've always been intrigued by how the dream itself works. This leads me to jump straight into meditation or "miniaturization" when i LD. I like to "miniaturize" because i feel like it'll point me to the "source" of the "dream fabric". I know it's all in your mind, but i love to assume it's possible to see with with your own eyes what makes the dream "tick"... in a LD.Quote:
Originally Posted by opalwolf
I'd have to agree with Hukif on this one, assuming you don't need to be constantly thinking during a LD. I've done it myself, however i normally wake up due to the intensity of the event.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinice
Oh then i have to tell you I did constantly think thro'out lucid.
Got three dream Events last night and participated.. Harh~tired TIRED.
And if you haven realise, I Participate in dreams. Not create them like u all did (\_/) so I need absolute 0 effort to enter lucid.
But fortunately, its not like reoccuring nightmares or sth.
not at all.. in order to be lucid, you need to be aware. and that is what lucidity is all about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinice
oh and lucidlistener.. what do you mean by "miniaturization"?? i'm not sure i get it. :P
But i did not think or force myseld to lucid. Natural occurance. =_= heard that before? no~lol
I tried it once. I was dreaming that I was in either a store or a warehouse, I don't really remember. I was lucid, and sat down on the floor to try meditating, and shortly after I closed my eyes, somebody walked up to me and asked if I wanted to spar. I couldn't resist and I got up and sparred them. Lol.
same here, that is how i learned to lucid dream. natural occurance. doesn't mean you have to "think" about lucid dreaming... just that you suddenly aware that you are in a dream.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinice
I've only done it once, miniaturize that is. It's when you shrink down as far as you can go, kinda like becoming a giant but opposite obviously.Quote:
Originally Posted by opalwolf
It's somewhat like meditating in the sense that you really have to concentrate on keeping the dream stable. (which i find difficult)
But yeah, you should try it out. It can take you to very strange worlds.
My goal is to get down deep enough to see the "dream fabric" or maybe even the neurons inside my own head! lol
Also i will post more results when i have them. :p
It felt real. And I do have to make lots of decision in it. A lot like reality just that I can do some extra stuffs at emergency.
Last night just had a double layer dream, I had to wake 2 times. When I met a serious problem at the 2nd layer dream, I forced myself out of that scene and to wake on the 1st layer. And when I felt it was safe enough, I went back to the 2nd layer to investigate furthur.
Wonder what I'm thinkin about..to go back and forth like that.
Shinice,
There are 2 general kinds of meditation. One kind involves clearing the mind. Some would describe this as "thinking of nothing" but that is not exactly accurate. If you simply think of nothing, you will possibly fall asleep. Proper technique requires constant reflection. You strive to clear the mind and maintain constant awareness. This is easier said than done and is significantly different than just thinking of nothing.
The second type of meditation involves mental focus on a single thought, such as a mantra.
This is one of my great dream goals. The type of meditation I would choose would be awareness meditation. It's where you focus on something, most choose to focus on their breath as it moves against one single point in your nose. Whenever I do this in the real world, there is always a heightening of senses. Though your eyes are closed you seem to be much more aware of the world around you, as long as you do not let your thoughts wander from the breath on that point in your nose. I think this could be pretty amazing in a dream. I wonder what that heightened awareness could do in terms or revealing the nature of the dream. I'm guessing with lack of visuals you would probably start hearing random noises, much like hypnagogic hallucinations. Has anyone tried meditating with their eyes closed in a dream?
i haven't gotten that far yet! i would like to try it though. i do the same type of awareness meditation. but i often meditate with my eyes open in the zen buddhist fashion. as this is how i was recently taught. i'm not sure what would happen in a dream.Quote:
Originally Posted by kevojy
I'm no pro at lucid dreaming or meditating. I had my first experience the other night with meditating during a lucid dream. (It is what tipped me over the edge and gave me the motivation to join this site.) My experience was that it lasted about 2 minutes, maybe. At one point I was looking down on the dream while meditating. A kind of static also seemed to infuse the dream and I think it became black and white. If you want to see more I put it in my DJ (though it is mostly about the preceding nightmare).Quote:
Originally Posted by lucidlistener
A friend of mine who is a much more experienced than I at lucid dreaming (pretty much every night) said she meditates while lucid dreaming all the time. She said it can be more challenging because thoughts take form as the dream around a lucid dreamer as they meditate so they can be more distracting.
A fascinating and exciting topic, thanks for bringing it up!
Maybe the tree Buddha was under was a dream tree!! it all makes sense now!!Quote:
Originally Posted by lucidlistener
Yes, with quite unexpected results. I was put through a test.
I wanted to meditate on mathematics. I did not understand the test for a long time. But I was tested on the real meaning of the trinity. Perception, conception and will. Concepts I would not run into for a long time (years) afterwords.
This is such a great idea! I'd love to try this.
I don't usually meditate in real life though. :/
What's the best way to, and most effective method while dreaming?
oh so i finally had a lucid dream and remembered to just sit and meditate. not only is it strange to sit and make sure your back is straight, etc... while fully aware that you are actually laying in bed. but the experience was really something!
for me. everything went dark, and then slowly became bright and i was looking at myself as if in a mirror of some sort.
Congrats! :D It is interesting to me that people talk of their back being straight or their legs crossed while meditating in a lucid dream. I haven't run into that (though I've only had a lucid meditation twice). I haven't had a body that I could feel explicitly like that when I meditate in a lucid dream, and the surroundings seem to dissolve to whatever degree.Quote:
Originally Posted by opalwolf
Not sure if it will be the best way for you, but I usually first relax and feel my body for a minute, noticing the different sensations in different parts of it, and then let that go and just focus on my breath. (I focus on the sensation of the air passing over a particular place in my sinuses, though others focus on their chest moving up and down, etc. Pick what feels right to you.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mellie
If a thought or emotion comes up and I find that it distracted me to the extent that I've lost the focus on my breath, I gently bring my focus back to my breath. I don't try to crush my thoughts and emotions, just separate from them and let them do what they will and keep awareness on my breath.
I get the sense of being still and expanding; all my thoughts and emotions are not me, they're just arising within me. If I can observe it (a thought, an emotion, a physical sensation, etc.) then it is not me, because I am the observer.
One thing that can be helpful to some is to count your breath as you focus on it if you like. It can help maintain the focus and is a good way to tell if you've lost your focus on your breath so you can bring your focus back.
I also like to do emotional processing practices, though some would argue those are not meditation. Now those could be fascinating to do in dreams, too. I'll put it on my goals list. :)
I remember meditating in a non lucid and it was crazy. I meditated and i felt like I got sucked inward to myself. I then felt a falling sensation then woke up. I can only imagine meditating in a lucid i might try it after i do my lucid goal of the month in May.