The violent video game debate is 100% grade A bullshit, but that's beside the point. |
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I've been having a discussion with my friend who is married and has lucid sex dreams about other women regularly. It's bringing up some really interesting topics about morals in dreams and how they can affect you in real life. Here's the last message I sent him: |
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I've made me a moon catchin' net.
And I'm goin' hunting tonight.
The violent video game debate is 100% grade A bullshit, but that's beside the point. |
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If you have decided to have sex with another women in your dreams even though your married because you can, is just wrong to me. |
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Lucid dream goals:
1. Get into SP /Check
2. have a long LD
3: Fly
4: Have some epic battles with my childhood heroes and villians (DBZ)
I don't think sex with other girls in your dream is particularly bad, especially because you know you are doing it just because it is only a dream. But do you really think she wants to hear that you are consciously engaging in sex with others in your dream? I mean, what sort of message does that send, even if there is no problem, she would probably assume you are bored of her or something. It is probably better if it is just a stranger girl in your dream, because it would be especially bad if you told her you had sex with one of your or her friends, or maybe even celebrities? |
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Nothing is difficult in a dream, its all in your head.
And what you know is that what she doesn't know isn't hurting her. |
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Since it's a "natural craving" why don't we just fulfill it in real life like animals. There's other things to do in lucid dreams then degrade your wife |
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Lucid Goals
Short term
convince a dc they're in a dream, get high, go swimming
Long Term
have a deild, continue a relationship, stop time
It is strange the number of people who believe that their thoughts are somehow immune to concepts of right and wrong--even though their mind effects human action. |
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Because in this day and age, the consequences of your actions would most likely hurt her. Other than that, there is nothing inherently immoral about that proposition. Some married couples do exactly that and lead perfectly happy, healthy lives while remaining in love with one another. |
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I believe it is not so easy to say, there is a lot of theory under it, but basically when we are asleep the superego(the moral part of our psyche) weakenss and the Id(the primitive, suppressed side of us) takes charge. I don't know if it is wrong or right, I think we are too busy on focusing on the moral part of the "brain", that we are suppressing everything beyond it, forgeting and not fully understanding the whole function of these suppressed, "amoral" things. |
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I don't believe that the issue is about the amount of crap the brain flashes before our mental eye, the question is which part of that crap we cultivate of our own volition. |
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It's certainty an interesting topic of discussion. |
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Dreams are simple.
It's the painfully simple things the human mind cannot comprehend.
After all your mind is trained to understand the complexity of the waking world,
not the simplicity of the dream world.
- Yuya
On the violent videogames debate, videogames and population are going way up. Violence is going down. |
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====lol define real====
20+ DILD :: 0 WILD :: 0 MILD :: ETCETERA :: [_] No :: [/] Almost :: [X] Yes
LD[X] :: WILD [_] :: MILD [_] :: Control myself [/] :: LD a few minutes [X] :: LD 20 minutes [X] :: Interrogate DCs [_] :: Fireballs from my hands [X] :: Change settings [X] :: KAMEHAMEHA [_] :: Encounter my subconscious [_] :: Teleport [X] :: Fly [X] :: Take the "Lucid Pill" [X]
Except in normal dreams you are not aware of what your doing, you didn't choose to do it, you brain just did. |
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Last edited by ♥Mark; 03-17-2011 at 06:15 AM.
Lucid dream goals:
1. Get into SP /Check
2. have a long LD
3: Fly
4: Have some epic battles with my childhood heroes and villians (DBZ)
Alright, perhaps you would care to explain exactly how having dream sex would hurt her? It's nothing new. Most married people have fantasies of shagging other people. Welcome to the real world. Asking a person to only think of screwing one other person for the rest of their lives isn't just unfeasible, it entirely contradicts hundreds of thousands of years of evolution. There is nothing inherently wrong with harboring a personal fantasy, and dreaming about it hardly differs from thinking about it. If she doesn't want to hear about your amorous dream escapades, you don't have to tell her, and she doesn't have to know. Nobody suffers. It's that simple. |
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Well I wouldn't say in isn't wrong, it just isn't wrong in your view, just as it is wrong in my view. Neither one of us is correct, because there is no correct answer. |
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Lucid dream goals:
1. Get into SP /Check
2. have a long LD
3: Fly
4: Have some epic battles with my childhood heroes and villians (DBZ)
You definitely have a valid point. |
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Dreams are simple.
It's the painfully simple things the human mind cannot comprehend.
After all your mind is trained to understand the complexity of the waking world,
not the simplicity of the dream world.
- Yuya
I agree with Tripoli. To say that we have the fleshly desire to do something in no way correlates to moral correctness... Obviously. Whether it's spiritually correct or not, lusting after other women when your married leads you to a path of divorce. You could say that's an extreme, but honestly, something as seemingly natural as pornography tears marriages apart all the time. One thing always leads to another so you might as well not let lucid sex be a gateway.. Unless you're lucid married? |
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Lucid Goals
Short term
convince a dc they're in a dream, get high, go swimming
Long Term
have a deild, continue a relationship, stop time
Same bad reasoning used in the video game debate. "If person 1 kills virtual people, they will be more likely to kill real people, cuz they're carrying out the exact same actions in a virtual environment." Our ability to differentiate between what is acceptable in a dream and what is acceptable in reality runs far deeper than you give it credit for. Besides, if a person didn't have dream sex, they'd just fantasize about other people during the day. This is honestly one of the most harmless things you can do. Anyone who wants to limit another person's dreams has some serious self esteem/jealousy/control issues. |
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Last edited by Metalconch; 03-17-2011 at 02:45 AM.
Lucid Goals
Short term
convince a dc they're in a dream, get high, go swimming
Long Term
have a deild, continue a relationship, stop time
I must point out, the "watch your" is the important part, as in, don't confuse something with another. |
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Don't marry the Thought Police. |
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