Theory of dream creation

Do you remember how in Inception Cobb explained how there is a sort of feedback loop of your subconsious mind creating the dream while your consious mind percieves what the dream means? I believe this is a very accurate representiation of the creative process of the dream.

When we dream, our SC (subconsious mind) creates our dream world continuously from input from our consious mind(although considerably less logical and analytical). For example, i find myself in a non lucid dream inside what initially appears to be my bedroom. Taking a few quick glimpses around, but not paying attention to much detail, I percieve this to be true, and so for the moment I am in my bedroom. Now say that my SC adds some previous fragment of some memory from the past week into the dream. Suddenly as I am laying on my bed, my friend walks into my room with an airsoft pistol in hand. I see my friend with his airsoft pistol, and percieve that we are about to play airsoft (the last week my friends and I had an airsoft war. Scince my consious mind is numbed down because its a nonlucid dream, I jump to conclusions faster, especially scince It feeds off a recent memory). I notice for the first time my own airsoft gun lying next to me on the bed. With the airsoft idea reinforced, I now pay a little more attention to my surroundings and realize that I'm actually in my friends bedroom(my SC took my perception of playing airsoft and made it come true, e.g. my airsoft gun and being at my friend's house.) we go outside and play airsoft.

When dreaming, in nonlucids, you generally accept your surroundings with little or no thought. Your SC creates the dream off of what you percieve in the dream. Glancing at something briefly gives it little detail, because my SC adds more detail when you pay attention to the object. If I actually am looking for detail, as I pay more attention to the object, it becomes more detailed. This is why dreams seem like they completely change their plot or setting sometimes, because if you more or less just look at something and percieve that it is a lamp, but then later look more closely and realize that it is a coathanger, in the morning you will see that that is illogical and berate yourself for missing this dream sign, but in the dream you dont think its unusual because now you see that it was actually a coathanger in the first place.

When you are lucid, you have more control over the percieving aspect of the creation loop, so you can control the content of your dreams while your SC actually makes the detail of the dream. When you say or think, "I hope a monster doesnt appear in that alley", your already percieving the likihood of that occuring, so the SC brings it into existance.


I hope I explained that well enough, and sorry for the gramar and spelling mistakes, I'm in a rush. This is my personal theory on dream creation. Do you think this is accurate?

I enjoyed the read, and have a question. Can your mind make these kind of connections based of attention when your lucid (I.e. You see te gun and appear in your friends house)?

Yes, but when you are lucid you control the percieving aspect of the cycle, and therefore indirectly control the creation aspect of the cycle. When you're lucid, and want to summon say, an airsoft gun, you expect to see an airsoft gun appear, and then your SC turns this expectation into reality. I think most problems with dream control occur when the dreamer is not confident in his/her ability to do whatever their trying to do, and so the SC takes the uncertainty of the outcome and may make that occur instead of what the dreamer originally wanted. So if you are thinking, "an airsoft gun will appear before me" but at the same time in the back of your head you're unsure if that will really happen, theres a good chance that your SC will cause the intended outcome to not happen.

I didn't completely understand your question, so I hope I gave you the answer you were looking for

That's exactly what i was wanting to know, thanks

This is pretty much exactly like my theory of dream creation. It is also pretty much how LaBerge describes it in Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming.

Lucid dreaming and practicing dream control make this much easier to observe, as you describe. I think most people have an idea that your subconscious already has a setting and plot in mind before the dream ever starts. I think it is more like your subconscious comes up with some random images and settings but your expectations related them is what creates the dream.

Perlinfalcon can you tell me what you actually in a dream to manipulate the environment, make objects, teleport, ect. Do you just spend a lot of time breaking your schemas of physics or something?

There are some things that are easier for me than others. I am much better at indirect control, such as finding objects and people rather than making them appear out of thin air. In that case it is just acting as though you "know" whatever it is will be there. I'll tell myself a little story, like, "Oh, I put that in this desk yesterday", or "wasn't this where they said that thing was on the news?"

I have "forced" things a few times, like making something transform into something else in front of me, by actually staring hard and convincing myself that I see what I want. That's almost like I'm in an argument with my subconscious, where it's like "That's a goat" and I'm like "nuh ah, it's a unicorn!" until the thing transforms. Flying I've done in dreams since I was little so that is a schema already built in. Same with transforming myself. That seems easy for some reason.

What I have not succeeded at yet is changing my surroundings. That's my current goal in the Personal Lucid Task Club.

Not sure if this answers your question...

Interesting Perlinfalcon. Do you think you could link me to LaBerge's and your theory of dream creation?

That's exactly what I wanted to know, my next lucid dream I want to either lick EVERYTHIG I see, or look in a miror, which I'm scared to do. I've tried taking a ton of pills, trying to use my schema of gmdoing drugs haha, but nothing happened.