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      Lucid dreaming 100% of the time. Need info.

      Hello, I know that this may be for the newbie forum, but I'm pretty well educated in this matter and wanted more views than the other forum might present.

      When I was very young, I learned about a tribe in Central/South America that put much focus on dreaming.

      Shortly after, I always started to remember all of my dreams.

      As time progressed, I was able to notice things like the fact I dreamed in color, felt physical pain or other sensations in dreams, etc. etc.

      Then I started having lucid dreams. About 60 or 70% of the time, I was aware I was dreaming.

      Within a year or so, it came close to 90%.

      Now, I'm always aware I'm dreaming, I have full color, full emotional, full sensory dreams. I control them, I'm aware of them, which often makes me choose to wake up. I can wake up whenever I decide to and often do.

      In many ways, I wish it wasn't like this. Because now, I'm always aware I'm dreaming, I know everything is in my mind, I know that when I start to think something, it becomes so in my dreams and it, quite frankly, makes dreaming far less fun.

      I wake up all the time now because I realize what's going on every time and I eventually get bored with the dream knowing that it's fake and I choose to wake myself up.

      I'm not sure what I'm asking or looking for but I know that this is beyond the typical person. I have lucid dreaming close to 100% of the time now. I have many tactics that work all the time that I created in my brain such as if I'm even wondering if I'm dreaming, than I surely am. I read a technique of trying to push your finger into a wall to see if you're dreaming and that worked. Then there is of course, the ever present feeling that things aren't right. I miss good old fashion dreaming. I hate the fact that I always, always know I'm dreaming. Nothings fun about having total control over your dreams contrary to what most would think. Pain, smells, tastes, all of it is so real except that fact that I'm always aware it's not.

      Any opinions or whatever? Thanks for your input.

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      P.S. I'm going nuts. I don't sleep well anymore because in my dreams, I'm either fully aware and let things happen or I go over my daily life, think about issues, work out problems etc. I get no rest anymore. I hate this. At first, it was very interesting and I explored it greatly but now I wish I never had any dreams at all. I cannot remember ever going to sleep and waking in the morning. I wake 4-8 times per night as I choose to wake because of one issue or another. I want peace. Sorry but I'm frustrated and intrigued, but the magic or interesting effects are gone. Now I just want to sleep.

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      Dude if this is true - You are a chosen one
      I had simmilar situation some time ago when i got in to LD for real. I got to a point that i was aware even in non-rem phases - it wasnt always plesant but i didnt complain... With time it passed away.
      Its usually like this that having a great gift is sometimes hard for the gifted one. Like predicting the future or talking with ghosts - people that have this gift dont always want it - like in your case.
      I think that You have to learn to use it.
      I can recomend trying few things :

      1. Easiest - Try to get some sleep in a dream
      - i've tried this few times ( well i tried to relax and meditate ) and usually i finished loosing awareness.
      Just find a place to lay down and try to sleep.

      2. Harder - Find your Dream Guide and ask him to help you. DG can do wonders! Belive me they know what to do. Its not always easy to find your real DG.
      My DG helped me once when i visited him - i felt that im starting to wake up - i asked him - Ben (thats his name) is there some thing i could do to stay here longer - i explainded that im starting to wake up.
      After that he tooked out a very strange artefact (dont know how to call it) - this was a kind of horn or tube shaped tool he used - i will not try to describe it couse this kinds of tools dont exists in our real world. Any way he tooked this tool and placed it by my ear or the side of my head and he started to blow air on the other side. It was the stranges thing ive ever felt - i heard strange noises exacly in my head - just like he was pouring some astral energy in my head. Moments later i was stable in my dream again.
      I have no idea how this works but it realy does
      Im sure your DG can put you to a deep restfull nonaware sleep if you will manage to find him. (that shouldnt be a problem for some body skilled like you)

      3. You coul try some herbs - for example Mug Wort in my case makes my sleep much more deeper - but still vivid. Hmm i shouldnt say this but - MJ woud probably be the best if you just want to kill your dreams, but for the love of God! dont do that!!!

      Learn to use your gift.

      If i can ask - how old are You?
      BTW This tribe You are talking about is probably Xhosa - fantastic peacefull tribe - as from what ive read.
      I hope this helped.
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      Well, I mean, I can understand your sitution, but isn't having 100% lucidity an outstanding ability, and not curse?
      This is amazing! And something many of us strive for, but most likely will never achieve.
      I think you should take advantage of it, The ability to do anything you want every night is excellent

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      How is it possible to lose interest in your dreams? There are endless possibilities to what you can do. What are your dreams like? You make them sound boring.
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      Do the lucid tasks. Try dream sharing. There is no limit to the amount of usefulness of lucid dreaming. I think you should spend awhile on the forum and read about what people try to do. Read through their dream journals. There's nothing ordinary or boring about lucid dreaming, but you do need to have a purpose. If you want to go to sleep and not remember your dreams try getting a script for a benzo like valium or sleep aid like ambien. But I think you'd be stupid to not want to lucid dream every night. The possibilities are endless. Use your gift for good.

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      You trollin? =.=

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      So...I was just finishing 15 minutes of typing when IE shut me down. I'm about to have a full hissy fit. lol.

      I'll rewrite it all tomorrow.

      But to be brief, I'm 32. I've been working on this since I was 15. I'm not a troll. I have never been a troll on any website. My dreams are not all boring. It's more compicated than that. Last night, I was working on my spanish language abilities while dreaming I was in Tiajuana. I'm getting better at ordering food.

      I'm a writer and thinking about writing a book on this but see I've spent too much research on my own work, professional sites and not enough on personal experiences of others such as on this site.

      I'll go into much more detail later tonight or tomorrow. Thank you for your replies.

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      Quote Originally Posted by nina View Post
      Do the lucid tasks. Try dream sharing. There is no limit to the amount of usefulness of lucid dreaming. I think you should spend awhile on the forum and read about what people try to do. Read through their dream journals. There's nothing ordinary or boring about lucid dreaming, but you do need to have a purpose. If you want to go to sleep and not remember your dreams try getting a script for a benzo like valium or sleep aid like ambien. But I think you'd be stupid to not want to lucid dream every night. The possibilities are endless. Use your gift for good.
      Yes, very close to my point. I was just going to say that it sounds like you need something to make your dream time more meaningful. Practically, spiritually, anything; be creative.

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      I agree with some of the other posters that it sounds like you just need more purpose (or different purposes from you are used to) in your dreams. Finding the Dream World Academy, practicing abilities like shapeshifting (or whatever appeals to you), playing WakingNomads dream game, shared dreaming, or any of the myriad things that people on this forum do/attempt to do ... these are all new and different things for you to try. I can see how it could get boring if you can't think of anything new and exciting to do. Dream yoga perhaps?

      Anyway, I'm interested to see your further details
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      Ok, so I have no real plan on how to talk about this so I’ll just randomly write about what I know. Feel free to ask questions, help me or anything. I made a small list of things to talk about.
      First, I started to practice learning more about the dream state when I was 15 or 16. I’m 32 now. I’ve heard that being on opiates intensifies these things. I was t-boned by an elderly person about 5 years ago. She broke my back and ruptured 3 discs. I’ve been handicapped since only now getting back to normal. I was on methadone, Norco, Soma etc. I’ve been told that these drugs intensify dreams. However, I’ve been off these drugs now for over 6 months and my dreams have become more lucid, more real and more intense.
      A few new things started happening. First, I’ll wake from a dream only to be in another dream only to wake in another dream.
      When I first saw the movie ‘Inception’, it was almost like an account of my life in regards to dream reality without the drama and action. I saw the movie knowing they were making fiction but feeling like my dreams were more close to their story than most people could imagine.
      As I became lucid close to 90% of the time, I learned techniques to indicate I was dreaming until I was able to realize it within minutes of dreaming on my own. At that point, I started molding them to whatever I wanted.
      This was the first problem.
      My father died of cancer when I was 17. I enjoyed dreaming of him. I felt like it was him visiting me. When I became entirely lucid, I noticed it was just a shell. There wasn’t much to the personality of the image of my father. It felt like a holodeck on star treck. This wrecked many enjoyments I had of remembering my father. Hence, the first issue where I started to not enjoy my gift.
      Other things happened such as what I call “loops” where the same things happen over and over until I decide to wake myself. For example, the other night, I was trying to find the keys to my old car, and I’d lose them and then search and it would repeat over and over. I’d than choose to wake myself. Waking myself is quite easy. In the dream world, I shut my eyes and open my true eyes and I’m awake.
      As a matter of fact, one of the oddest things that started happening a few months ago, was that I was able to feel how I was sleeping in reality. For example, I’m in a heavy dream state. I realize I’m dreaming within a few minutes. I think about my conscious or active self, whatever you want to call it and I worry about myself. I then can feel while still dreaming, what position I’m in and how I’m doing. I.e. I was able to feel that I was on my stomach with my arms under my pillow sleeping but it didn’t wake me without my choice. This was new to me.
      Other things began about 4 years ago such as problem solving. I was able to work on school issues, mathematical problems, business issues and now most recently, practicing foreign languages that I study such as Japanese, Chinese, Spanish and French. I do have a high IQ, well, a very high IQ but it’s never done me any favors I should say.
      While most of my dreams are NOT boring, many can be. I mean, think about it. Think of the movie inception or maybe, a billionaire that could buy anything. What fun is there in that? Sure, I can choose to fly, I can choose to have many beautiful women appear or whatever but when you know it’s a dream, it’s just not the same.
      It’s not that I don’t wish for this. I’m proud of the work I’ve done. It’s just become a burden in some ways, that’s all. I thought I was very educated in this subject but I see I have much to learn now.
      Feel free to ask anything. I don’t have anything to hide. I just want to learn more. I know I don’t know much. I know I have a gift but it wasn’t easy. I spent 17 years improving this. It just got to a point that was beyond what I wanted.
      Oh, and most of the time, I am fully aware of the actual time in the real world. I can wake up knowing within 10 minutes of what the current time is. I’m aware of the time it takes in the dream world.
      There’s many great things about this but at the same time, it can get old.
      I can’t say much more than what I know. Call me a troll or whatever but I just want answers. Best regards, Cam.

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      oh, and I've tried sleeping pills. I'm taking loads of ambien and was taking 5 tylenol pm just to get to sleep although it would last for just a few hours. So I've tried that. I don't want to stop what I know, I just want a good nigthts rest.

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      Hey there, sorry if this is off topic, Id quite like to know if you have been gifted from the start, I mean could you lucid dream first time you tried, and could you give any tips on how you do it, sounds brilliant and I understand a great thing can be a boring thing if you do it too much.

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      This is amazing. For how long is this going on that You cannot get an normal sleep? Did this happen after the drug treatment?

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      Clearly you have explored your dream world and tried a great many things, but they all seem to be things you could do in real life. Working on your problems, learning languages, etc. Have you tried getting really creative and doing *fun* stuff that you could never do in real life? And I don't mean just flying, but less obvious things like creating portals to other worlds, shapeshifting, fighting (matrix-style) with DCs, playing roles (like a superhero). One thing that might be right up your alley is passive dream control, where you basically play a role in your dreams- tricking your subconscious into creating objects and situations without actively forcing it to happen. You could play James Bond or whatever character you have read about/watched that leads an adventurous life.

      You may have already experimented with all these things, as it is clear you have a ton of experience, but from your posts it doesn't sound like you have gotten as creative as you could. If I'm wrong, then feel free to ignore my advice.

      Also, even if you have tried every superpower/passive control technique/role-playing trick in the book, you might try looking for more purpose in your dreams. You have discovered your dreams aren't real.. perhaps you should read up on shared dreaming and such things that might hint that your dreams are more real than you think. I can see how things can get boring if they have no impact on the real world.. but what if they DID have some type of impact? Check out the Beyond Dreaming forums and such on this site and see if anything piques your interest.

      I've echoed alot of what others have already said, so forgive me if this is not helpful, but it seems like you earnestly want to find something new and exciting in dreams. And it may yet be out there for you
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      Try to enter another person's dream. Then things will get real interesting.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Camburn View Post
      I don't sleep well anymore because in my dreams, I'm either fully aware and let things happen or I go over my daily life, think about issues, work out problems etc. I get no rest anymore. I hate this. At first, it was very interesting and I explored it greatly but now I wish I never had any dreams at all. I cannot remember ever going to sleep and waking in the morning. I wake 4-8 times per night as I choose to wake because of one issue or another. I want peace.
      I'm confused. Can you help me understand something? You say you choose to wake yourself up often, but then you say you get no rest. Why then do you choose to wake yourself up? As far as I know, lucid dreams are just as restful as normal dreams. I could be wrong, but then again I have read my share of literature on the matter, and it's consistent with my own experiences. Physiologically, they're supposed to be the same. You say you're 32, so 80% of your sleep is composed of non-rem sleep in the first place (mostly non-dream-related rest). For this reason, it's hard for me to believe that your trouble stems from the fact that you have lucid dreams.

      Quote Originally Posted by Camburn View Post
      oh, and I've tried sleeping pills. I'm taking loads of ambien and was taking 5 tylenol pm just to get to sleep although it would last for just a few hours. So I've tried that. I don't want to stop what I know, I just want a good nigthts rest.
      Well that explains a lot. Dude, you're just not sleeping well. Period. If anything, your lucid dreaming is a symptom of poor sleep hygiene (in your case, possibly because of your many WBTBs--in effect), not the other way around (as you're claiming). You would do well to educate yourself as much as possible about proper sleep hygiene and your circadian rhythm. There's plenty of info available online.

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      Thanks for all the responses and I will elaborate much more and answervquestions hen I'm not tryingvto type on my ipad2. Give me a few hours. Clearly I have read too much on the standard research and not enough into the deeper techniques and other people's experiences. Will get back later tonight pst. From my ltop.

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      Very interesting. I know of lots of people here including myself who manage to learn how to get lucid 4 to 6 times a week, but thats not as good as always.


      Quote Originally Posted by Camburn View Post
      As time progressed, I was able to notice things like the fact I dreamed in color, felt physical pain or other sensations in dreams, etc. etc.
      Man I never understand this.

      How do people not notice color or sensations? I've always been able to for as long as I can remember, I don't understand how you could not notice color or feelings and pain. :u

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      For the thing that you say it feels, as I like to say it: artificial. The way it feels, like you said like a billionair there would be no fun in it. I like to limit things like non god mode. If I were a billionaire I would experience things for fun instead of buy things for fun invent things experiment... I.e like iron man. Good example, you could explore the unknown, going so deep into it, experimenting with your dreamstate in the waking world. I made a post a while back about what if one could start to bring the brainpower from a dream into waking life. I think one could find new ways thinking. The rare gift you have, it could help pave the way for future lucid dreamers. Techniques that you may discover may benefit humanity!!!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Coolb3rt View Post
      The rare gift you have, it could help pave the way for future lucid dreamers. Techniques that you may discover may benefit humanity!!!
      Lets not get carried away lol.
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      Lets not get carried away lol
      We shall harness his power and sacrifice him for the good of humanity!!!

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      If you truly can lucid dream that often and have the ability to take full control of your dreams... aren't you able to make your dreams a pleasant experience? If there's a smell you don't like or a sense you don't enjoy, can't you just wish it away? It's hard for me to believe that that would ever get boring; then again I've never lucid dreamed that often (yet) so maybe it can get frustrating if there's a night or two you just want to nothing and let your unconcious mind take control. As to how you would be able to stop lucid dreaming, idk, and I don't know if I'd have the heart to give out that information if I did. Lucid dreaming is an essential tool that I don't think many people take advantage of... when you think about it, lucid dreaming can be used in an endless amount of ways to enrich your daily like; and once you have that ability, I don't think it's worth giving up for anything.
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