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      Drug Induced L.D.?

      Now dont get all mad at me or dissapointed if im wrong but a friend of mine owns a summer house somewhere not sure but anyways he found a package of dried leaves or something that are real pricey and supposably induce Lucid Dreaming ... anyone heard of such stuff?

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      u must get me some and there little seeds too hehehehehe...

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      dried green leaves in a baggy? no idea what that could be

      i think u made a new term. someone put DILD into the tutorial. a new DILD
      420/24/7/365 herb?

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      dild?

      isnt dild for something else...

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      ya. DREAM indued lucid dream.... i know, wierd right?
      420/24/7/365 herb?

      <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mayhembrown)</div>
      i tried to fly but cudnt, so i went outside in the garden but still cudnt.. i then thought lets go and find a girl!

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      Re: Drug Induced L.D.?

      Originally posted by REALmind
      Now dont get all mad at me or dissapointed if im wrong but a friend of mine owns a summer house somewhere not sure but anyways he found a package of dried leaves or something that are real pricey and supposably induce Lucid Dreaming ... anyone heard of such stuff?
      Its not possible/easy to identify them just like that, especially when they're already dried...
      It could be just leaves from a normal tree. But the most known herb that helps with dreaming, makes them more vivid and whatnot, is Calea Zacatechichi, and that isn't that mindblowingly pricey really...I think it's pretty safe to say nothing can 100 percent sure, every time make you have a lucid dream...

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      I don't know of any drugs that specifically induce lucid dreams, but I know there are some that can dissociate the body from the mind and possibly make it easier to go into a lucid dreaming state. Of course none of this is scientific fact, its more anecdotal and theoretical.

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      Originally posted by Merck
      I don't know of any drugs that specifically induce lucid dreams, but I know there are some that can dissociate the body from the mind and possibly make it easier to go into a lucid dreaming state. *Of course none of this is scientific fact, its more anecdotal and theoretical.
      Not entirely. It has been proven that certain drugs like DMT (also some others) are capable of separating the astral body from the physical along with severe hallucinations.

      And, ON-topic, drugs can take us to worlds such as in a dream, but the hallucinogetic effects are not subordinated to the user, so Lucid Dreaming would be impossible, one would just be able to enter regular dream-like states. Lucid Dreams are, in easy words, just controlled hallucinations.

      (Some exceptions of controlling hallucinations on special occasions by advanced users)
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      I was talking about higher than normal dosages of dextromethorpham hydrobromide. I just remember reading a study about it that mentioned lucid dreaming, though only briefly. As far as PCP and Ketamine go, while they are all dissociatives, I don't know if the same would apply to them. Either way, using them to lucid dream probably would be a bad idea.

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      Originally posted by Merck
      Either way, using them to lucid dream probably would be a bad idea.
      Man, that is the understatement of the year! You don't need drugs to lucid dream, in fact, in most cases they are a hinderance.

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      If it is an herb that is specifically supposed to induce lucid dreaming, then I'm pretty sure it would be Calea, as aforementioned. But it's a little odd that you have no information on it, and that a simple baggie of dry leaves is all you have, with no information on it other than the dreaming part. Maybe you should look online at pictures of Calea and see if you can identify it. Erowid might have pics, or Google Images. Anyway, I wouldn't smoke that unless you are entirely sure.

      Merck, you are right about dextromethorphan. I have used it before, and during the experience have "left my body" and had what I would probably describe as a lucid dream, one time even while sitting up. It's not something I do regularly though, because I really don't like doing drugs. And I do realize I can do lucid dreaming without drugs very well, but sometimes I enjoy that little extra boost once a month or so. The night after dextromethorphan always propelled me into some of my most vivid dreams. I think it just aided me into the right mindstate to achieve lucid dreams. Either way, I don't expect people to agree with my view of it, so it's ok.

      And Seeker you are right that the majority of drugs will be a hindrance to lucid dreaming. There are only a few exceptions, but I'd rather leave them unnamed, because I think people should look to their own abilities before turning to the aid of a chemical.
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      It could very possibly be Salvia Divoriaum. Many peolple claim they have dream like halluciazations while on it. It comes in a form like you describe.
      I am not aware of anyone that it has helped to induce lucid dreams though.
      Like seeker said. Most hinder your ability!

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      It could very possibly be Salvia Divoriaum. Many peolple claim they have dream like halluciazations while on it. It comes in a form like you describe.[/b]
      It has been proven that certain drugs like DMT (also some others) are capable of separating the astral body from the physical along with severe hallucinations. [/b]
      Yes both of these drugs can induce these osrt of hallucinations, some people would say DMT more than Salvinorin but I've found the experience of both of the very comparable, also, psycedelic, DMT is a serotenegic, it will not seperate anything from anything, serotenegics (lsd, psilocin/psilocybin ['maic mushrooms'], DMT, AMt and so on) remove the normal filters from our mind, for example, if you had the TV on, had the water running in the kitchen and were typing on the computer with music on (lets say your computer is close to your kitchen, normally you'd forget about all of it except for your typing, but under the influence of seretonegics, you would be almost incapable of typing, it would be like you were in a crowded room with moisy people, the only drugs that seporate the body from the mind are dissociatives like ketamine, N2O, Phencyclidine (PCP), dizociline (MK-801) and dextromethorphan (DXM). Netier would induce such dreams as there is no hope of getting asleep when the drug takes effect, psycedelic you are right in saying that it induces severe hallucinations but it goes beyond that, the DMT experience is indescribable, the effects of both of these are so intense that there is know way to describe it, personally when I have used either I felt like someone shoved the Apollo 12 up my ass and I was headin' off into hyperspace, the same with Salvinorin, you could try someking the drug in a pipe, but be warned, have someone to grap the pipe as soon as you inahle, people have been know to go out of it instantly, I personally prefare DMT to Salvinorin ecause the amount of smoke involved is mush less, with Salvinorin you have to inhale ALOT of nasty tasting hot smoke and hold it in while it passes the blood-brain barrier. Myself I have found high dose dissociatives to produce dream like states, such as a k-hole dose of ketamine and a mid/late third plateau dose of DXM. The brain also makes DMT and 5-MeO-DMT both very powerful substances, and on top of that they both inhibit REM sleep (dream sleep), it is thought that DMT may be responsible for some of our 'wilder' dreams. But if you do plan on using any of these please note that Salvia Divinorum is LEGAL DMT and most hallucinogenic tryptamines are NOT.

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