Some very interestng questions

Hello, as my first post, I probably should have introduced myself, but I must get these questions off my mind.

The first question, I always think about this every day, is When conducting a WILD, you lay there, and essentially wait for the sleep paralysis wave to roll in, yet maintain awareness and enter a dream. But what if you didn't enter a dream? Say you just lay there, watching your room as your body is in REM. If you stayed that way the entire night and broke out of SP in the morning, would you have received a full nights rest?

But obviously, most of us are here to enter a dream, not lay in your bed in SP he whole night. Just curious.

My second question is, whenever I try to WILD, I will lay there, and I will receive various sensations. I will do all the instructions right, and will be very relaxed. However, I shall only get sensations of...well, it's odd. One sensation is like having your chest or leg poked and a ripple of this...ticklish feeling spreading. This sensation usually lasts until I give up and move a bit. Another sensation feel almost like SP, but it's very light. I'm thinking it may be light paralysis, or maybe partial paralysis. They're very odd, and it's very interesting to see if anyone can explain what these sensations are.

My third question, trying to see if anyone can give me a good description, is: "What does SP actually feel like?" As far as i know, it's like a wave spreading over your body, so you can't move, or is very hard to move. Does it make your body feel numb? And exactly, how hard is it to move? I know i have experienced light paralysis, and could never evolve it into full-on SP.

My fourth question is: I have a cat. Two cats, but just one in particular. He's very cute, but it's like my bed is his house. (We allow pets on the furniture because they dont shed at all, or hardly) I have a window by my bed, and my cat loved to go from the foot of my bed, along to the side of my bed, and to the window. I can feel this whenever he does it, and he does it often. Will the feeling of my bed shaking, and my cat's fur reset my attempts at achieving SP?

Any help answering these question would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

1. I'm pretty sure you can't achieve a REM sleep state while watching your real room.

2. As far as I know the theory about these sensations are that they are there to test if you are still awake, so if you move to scratch then your subconscious knows you're still awake and it won't enter SP, but an important factor of entering SP for me is that I have to lay comfortable so it could be better to move around after a while of trying to reach SP.

3. The sensations for SP can be different for each person, they even can be different each night for the same person. For me it usually is a very loud noise like a static radio channel which keeps getting louder and louder until I'm pretty sure I should be deaf by then, at the same time I feel my body distort and my vision will become more and more like a static TV channel. But again, this is personal and will be different for a lot of people.

4. If you pay attention to your cat's actions and actually start thinking about it then it could "reset" your attempts, but if you pay little to no attention to your cats movements than it shouldn't matter that much. Reaching SP is more about just relaxing while being aware, so if you don't pay too much attention to anything around you almost nothing would be able to reset your attempts.

Thank you for answering my questions. I'll try for a lucid tonight, if at all possible.

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Originally Posted by jr123104

Thank you for answering my questions. I'll try for a lucid tonight, if at all possible.

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Don't try, have one! Believe in yourself and it will happen sooner or later~

Btw, WILDs are one of the harder techniques so I recommend practicing All Day Awareness along side of WILDing.

True, WILDing is one of the more harder techniques, but I find it most rewarding to master. Since you could have a lucid dream whenever you felt like it.

I'll believe I can.

Btw, can't you achieve a WILD sleeping on your side? (or any other preferred position) I'm starting to find trying it on my back is very uncomfortable.

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Btw, can't you achieve a WILD sleeping on your side? (or any other preferred position) I'm starting to find trying it on my back is very uncomfortable.

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Yes you can! The position itself isn't important, laying on your back is just recommended by a lot of guides because its easy to breathe that way, but it is possible in any comfortable position. I often find myself in SP just after switching from laying on my back to laying on my side.

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Since you could have a lucid dream whenever you felt like it.

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You can master nearly all techniques to get this. I not here to tell you what to do just saying that you can have even more control with Deild for example. Often people want to start with Wild but I think you should give Deild a serious try aswell (if you havent already)

You can maintain awareness through the entire night. It is not the same as being awake through the entire night. Your awareness changes throughout the night, and things get very strange. When you WILD, you are actually letting yourself fall asleep, without totally losing awareness. You can do this through any stage of sleep. This is why many people will try WILD early in the night, and end up stuck in a hypnagogic state with no dreams. Many failed WILDs are actually just a successful WILD in the wrong sleep stage. It is more common than you might think. It may feel like racing thoughts, an empty void, or even a total loss of ego, depending on where you are in your sleep.

1. I don't think you can enter REM without entering a dream. If you're in REM you will enter a dream, but that dream could be of laying in bed trying not to move. You might think you're stuck in SP but you are really fully immersed in a dream and just haven't realized it.

2. I don't think these sensations are really associated with sleep or SP. These sensations can occur during the day when you are wide awake. But during the day we are usually busy and our senses are receiving a ton of input that blocks out the sensations. They aren't important so we don't notice them. When we lay down to sleep our senses stop being bombarded by outside sources, so we can become more aware of our bodies and every little odd happening that occurs with them.

3. The feeling of SP varies for every person, as well as for every attempt. When I'm in SP it can feel like nothing, or it can feel like the entire universe is being ripped apart molecule by molecule. Hard to explain. Imagine laying in between two train tracks as the trains pass by. That's what the vibrations can feel like. Also imagine sticking your head in a jet engine. The sounds that can occur seem to be louder than anything you thought possible.
When you're in SP you will know it. Even if the hallucinations aren't very strong you should still feel a mental shift that is unlike anything you've felt while awake.

4. The cat can disturb your attempts. Or it might not. The WILD is purely a mental thing. As long as you're in the correct mental state you can have a WILD. The interrupting cat can disturb your mental state, but you can return to the correct state very quickly. Nothing gets reset.

Dutchraptor: DEILD, Isn't that where you wake up from a dream, not move at all, and enter a LD? (through SP)
When i fall to sleep, I usually won't wake up until morning. But if i get lucky and my cat wakes me up, i'll give DEILD a try. :)

Robot_butler: Thank you! I found your answer quite helpful. I'll remember to try later in the night. So hopefully I'll end up in a LD.
An empty void sounds boring, loss of ego sounds...odd, And racing thoughts probably wouldn't be good for the hallucination factor XD