Can Anyone Describe True Medical Sleep Paralysis?

I am trying to put together a thread to dispell confusion about SP. I will check this thread again on 10/02/12, and if anyone has described their own first hand experience, it may be included in a new sticky thread.

To clarify, I would like to hear from those who actually have a sleeping disorder, that cause true sleep paralysis. If that is you, please describe your experience. Also, if you have every somehow converted a true SP experience into a lucid dream, then also describe that.

Any input will help, thanks.

Define ''true sleep paralysis''? I've experienced full blown SP and subsequently crashed (literally) into a dream world - fully lucid - but I have no sleeping disorders.

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I get it all the time...there's a "sp*" tag in my DJ...sometimes HH/HI happen with them. I've been getting it all my life, and the basic thing that happens is I'm either falling asleep, or waking up and suddenly I can't move. I can open my eyes, but that's about it. My heart feels like it speeds up, and I feel like I can't breathe. Anxiety, caffeine and bad sleeping habits increase my frequency of having them. I have turned SP into WILDs, sometimes SP shows up randomly when attempting a WILD, and rarely I'll have a normal WILD without SP.

I have turned random SP episodes into WILDs by simply relaxing through it, and visualizing the scene or simply getting out of bed, when everything is over. The visualization part helps relieve some of the crazy things that go on during the 2-3 minute time frame that it happens, and it also, helps start a scene in a different location. Since everyone's eyes can open during SP the dreamer is more likely to have the dream start out in there room.


I helped create the official definition of REM Atonia, and Sleep Paralysis that's found in the WIKI. I'm not sure what else you're looking for, but feel free to ask me any questions.

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Also post #4

http://www.dreamviews.com/f41/verdic...0/#post1942590

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Originally Posted by Auron

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I get it all the time...there's a "sp*" tag in my DJ...sometimes HH/HI happen with them. I've been getting it all my life, and the basic thing that happens is I'm either falling asleep, or waking up and suddenly I can't move. I can open my eyes, but that's about it. My heart feels like it speeds up, and I feel like I can't breathe. Anxiety, caffeine and bad sleeping habits increase my frequency of having them. I have turned SP into WILDs, sometimes SP shows up randomly when attempting a WILD, and rarely I'll have a normal WILD without SP.

I have turned random SP episodes into WILDs by simply relaxing through it, and visualizing the scene or simply getting out of bed, when everything is over. The visualization part helps relieve some of the crazy things that go on during the 2-3 minute time frame that it happens, and it also, helps start a scene in a different location. Since everyone's eyes can open during SP the dreamer is more likely to have the dream start out in there room.


I helped create the official definition of REM Atonia, and Sleep Paralysis that's found in the WIKI. I'm not sure what else you're looking for, but feel free to ask me any questions.

EDIT:

Also post #4

http://www.dreamviews.com/f41/verdic...0/#post1942590

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That is exactly what i am looking for, with the links and everything! Very nice. i was hoping for staff or past staff, unless the person had like 2K+ posts or 3 years , and you have all of that! Perfect. If you want to read the stuff on the thread where we are gettting it all together and read what Sageous, gab and me have written, I would be thrilled to have you as one of the 6 experts. I saw you already offered a nice edit, so you know where the thread is.I can either take this exact post from here, or you can create an entry as oone of the experts on that thread. Keep in mind the theme is most people do not get true SP, and those who do may be able to use it (and now we have a description!), but the fact is if you do not have it, it is not a needed part of WILD. Thanks!

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Define ''true sleep paralysis''? I've experienced full blown SP and subsequently crashed (literally) into a dream world - fully lucid - but I have no sleeping disorders.

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Hi. We are trying to find people who have the actual medical condition, not related to WILD. Then, if like Auron, they do have it and have converted it into an LD, that would be cool to.

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Originally Posted by sivason

Hi. We are trying to find people who have the actual medical condition, not related to WILD.

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You make it sound like it's a bad thing? Everybody goes through it multiples times a night, every night... or am I picking up the wrong end of the stick here?

he means conciously in SP subsequent to waking up

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I can either take this exact post from here, or you can create an entry as oone of the experts on that thread. Keep in mind the theme is most people do not get true SP, and those who do may be able to use it (and now we have a description!), but the fact is if you do not have it, it is not a needed part of WILD. Thanks!

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Take what you need man. I'm all up for helping out SP, ISP and REM Atonia; but I'm in no shape to describe a WILD without sleep paralysis due to the fact that I don't know how much of my success is dependent on SP itself. All I generally endorse when people ask me about WILDs (that doesn't seem to mentioned in guides) is to have a consistent sleep schedule...IE if a person wakes up at 7AM during work/school, they need to do that every day including their days off so their sleep phases are close to textbook as possible for WBTBs. That and practice DILDs as a backup (roughly I have a 50/50 DILD/WILD ratio in over 300 lucids)

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You make it sound like it's a bad thing? Everybody goes through it multiples times a night, every night... or am I picking up the wrong end of the stick here?

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Oh, no. He is not trying to make it anything, and definitelly not a bad thing. I don't get that vibe from his post.

A little background to the question:

SP is in lucid dreaming circles mislabeled. People not having paralysis think they do, when they feel just a little heaviness, hard to move, vibrations and such. "True" SP is complete or partial body immobilization, when you can't move. And you are right, we all have it multiple times a night. Only thing is, we don't know about it, because we are asleep.

So the request is to post, if you experience SP. And if you learned how to use it to enter LD, please describe.

Well, in that case, I use it by just letting it take hold of me; by going with the flow. Subsequently, it intensifies and I'm forced into a dream. I'm not sure how to go about explaining how I actually do that... it's just something I do instinctively.

I was diagnosed with insomnia around 10 and had sleep paralysis experiences from then into my early teens. It seemed like the more erratic my sleepy schedule was the more experiences I would have with sleep paralysis.

I have been lucid dreaming since I was very young but the sleep paralysis did not start happening until later one, although it usually occured when I was lucid dreaming. I have also had some false awakening experiences with lucid dreaming but this was always different.

Usually it would occur when I was lucid dreaming so I was already conciouse. I would feel my body but could not move it. Usually my eyes were shut but if I put what seemed like a lot of will power into it I could open my eyes slightly. Sometimes I would just see the room, occasionally I would see a figure staring at me and getting closer..which with some research I realized was pretty common. Every once in awhile I was able to wake myself up completely, but usually I would slip back into a lucid dream.

I get spontaneous sleep paralysis all the time. I've had it since I was a child. I get all the typical symptoms. Unable to move, heart racing, threatening presence in the room watching me. If I transition it to a dream, I normally start getting tactile hallucinations of the presence molesting me. Sometimes I feel intense vibrations right upon waking, and they last through the whole experience, on and off. Other times they come after the other hallucinations. Would you like some specific dream reports? I can try to dig some up.

Auron described it perfectly. One thing that he didn't mention, but happened to me the few times I experienced full blown SP... is not being able to breathe. It felt like something heavy was pushing on my chest, and I could not breathe for at least 30 seconds. It's a terribly frightening experience. It's only happened to me a few times. Only once while I was attempting to WILD, and the others were upon waking up. The time that it happened while attempting to WILD was probably the scariest thing that has happened to me as far as sleeping goes. I was lying there, when all of a sudden I hear a loud demon voice say "MIICHAAEEL" (which is common, but I was still new and couldn't ignore it). So I open my eyes, and there is a black figure 5 feet above me. As soon as I looked at it, it shot down at me and went into my body. That's when I realized I couldn't move, and that's when the heavy suffocating feeling came on. Extreme panic set in and I thought I was going to have a heart attack, or suffocate. After a short time that felt like forever, I just snapped out of it, and could move again fine. There was no going back to sleep that night. I thought I got attacked by a ghost, until reading other stories like that online. Now, whenever I hear ghost stories, I'm like... lemme guess... it was in the middle of the night when you were in bed???? HMMMM!!!!!!! Although some are not!